This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenan, Goodman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If the 1850 Lancaster family is your family, they may have made the arrangement for their son Benjamin to apprentice to the blacksmith, prior the family moving to Reading. It's as simple as young Benjamin remained behind in Lancaster when the family moved to Reading. I found one Keenan obituary on the Berks Rootsweb site that relates to the Reading family. It would be for a daughter of Harry N. Kennan and his wife Laura (Goodman) who married in 1895. I think this Harry N. might be Harry the 6 year old son of James (counted in the 1880 census with "father" Benj. Keenan). Keenan, Bertha E. Bertha "Murph" Keenan, 93, Marysville, Wash., died April 27 in Las Orquidias Adult Care Home, Marysville. Born in Reading, she was a daughter of the late Harry and Laura (Goodman) Keenan. Keenan served in the Army Air Forces and Air Force from 1943 until 1963, retiring as a lieutenant colonel. A flight nurse, she took part in the Korean Airlift. Surviving are several nieces and nephews. Schaefer-Shipman Funeral Home Inc., Marysville, is in charge of arrangements. Source: Reading Eagle, Thursday, May 5, 2005. You might do well to contact the Reading library for look ups of the Keenans buried at Charles Evans Cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarkleVon Surnames: Keenen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Birth certificates were not mandatory until 1906, so other than a Church record, I doubt if you will find anything. If I were you though, I would check the Orphan Court Records. If Benjamin's father died when he was a young boy, then someone would have to oversee his estate. Just a thought. Yvonne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would love to place my Benjamin with Benjamin & Mary. I know a little about the other Benjamin. He was born about 1808 to a James & Mary, who lived in Chester Co, just over the county border. The absence of Benjamin inthe Kunen family in 1860 would account for him being in Lancaster at the time. And the way he spelled his name or the censutaker did, made it look similar to Benjamin Sr's. (Kenon vs Kunen). I'm complelled to believe that's the family he belongs with, both bcause of the names in family, his place in it, and his age in the censuses. I'll write those two census listings down and keep them or reference. Perhaps Benjamin's father never died and that he was simply snt here (Lancaster) to learn a trade. Like I said, there's a Benjamin Kenon found in Salisbury Twp, Lancaster Co in 1860. Blacksmith, living with James Hoas, also a blacksmith. So if he is the other Benjamin's son, and he's absent from the family in 1860, this would be why. But why Lancaster, I don't kn! ow, maybe it was the most industial place at the time nearest to Reading. I don't know. But thanks for the two lookups, Betty. I relly appreciate it. You got me thinking now. :-) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would not discount the 1850 Census, Benjamin and Mary Kennan in Landaster simply because that census says they were born in Germany. The census takers were notrious for making errors. The 1860 and 1870 census records for the family indicated they were born in PA. Regarding the "Unknown" on you birth of death certificate, it might be the person reporting the information did not know. I don't know of any Berks County birth certificates issued in 1837. Was the birth record you have written at some time other than when your Benjamin was actually born? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is definitely interesting. The last name culd have been misspelled and the mistake of thinking everyone on the page was German because I never saw a census page before where everyone was listed as being from one country other than this one. My Benjamin did have children, giving them names of those in that household (plus many more children). So I guess that could be his family, as long as the last name was misspelled and the error in thinking everyone was German. Then again, you can't mistake a language, if they spoke it or had an accent at all. Otheer than that, it could be his family. I'll definitely write down the family in the census and keep it for reference. My Benjamin would have been exactly 12 at the time, cause he turned 13 later that year in Dec. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.8/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Burials at Charles Evans Cemetery, Reading include the following Keenans. The date may reflect the date of burial. KEENAN, BENJAMIN 8 Jun 1882 KEENAN, BENJAMIN D. 17 Sep 1891 KEENAN, DAVID 19 Aug 1901 KEENAN, DAVID (child of) 22 Sep 1869 KEENAN, EMMA R. 14 Sep 1876 KEENAN, GEORGE F. 14 Mar1874 D:11 Mar 1874 A:10 s/o JAMES KEENAN, HARRY N. 27 Jan 1896 KEENAN, HARRY N. (child of) 11 May 1905 KEENAN, JAMES 6 Jul 1901 KEENAN, KATE 20 Jan 1916 KEENAN, MARGARET 30 Aug 1870 KEENAN, MARY 4 Dec 1879 KEENAN, SARAH M. 17 Dec 1919 KEENAN, SUSANNA 20 Jan 1883 If any of these are your Keenans you might be able to contact the PA Room at the Reading library and obtain obituaries for them. That is if you do not live in Berks County. Reading library will not do look ups on requests by anyone who lives in Berks County, it's their policy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That would have worked, bt my Benjamin was born in PA, both censuses later on and his birth certificate say so. If I didn't know that, I'd be inclined to go with what you found. Thanks for trying though. I appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yea, I have his birth certificate. For his father, it says "Unknown Keenen" and for mother "Mary Horton". The only other piece of info about his father I hve comes from the 1910 census for Lancaster Co. It says his father (and mother) was born in PA. That's all I have on his parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks Betty: Its so good to see your name. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Burdan" <bjburdan@dejazzd.com> To: <paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [PABERKS] Reading Birth Records > Sally, > > Try searching at Berks County Register of Wills for Berks and Reading > births > http://www.co.berks.pa.us/rwills/s/RegMain.htm > > If that address fails go directly to the Register of Wills site > http://www.co.berks.pa.us/rwills/site/default.asp > > Click on "genealogy" and on the next site click on "search our records" > > Betty > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all: Don't know if it could be a help but I have Keener, Kierner, ancestors in West Leesport, Upper Tulpehocken, and Bernville, Pa. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ and Sally" <scott1@embarqmail.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Birth Records, 1837 > Do you know what year the births are available from Reading? Sally > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Birth Records, 1837 > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: audianaq41 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Births were not recorded in PA in that year of 1837. The only records >> would be from a church record or a cemetery stone. >> >> The Berks Co H/S has a data base of names in their churchbooks which you >> can check to see if there is a record of his birth. Also, the 1850 >> Census, when he was about 13 should show his parents - although I went >> thru the 1850 for a Benjamin and did not find one with surname KEENAN or >> variable spelling born c1837. Do you have an age or birth for his mother >> Mary? >> >> 1850 in Reading does not show one with surname starting with K, but there >> are 3 in Berks Co: >> >> Benjamin Kamp Maxatawny, Berks, PA abt 1837 PA >> Benjamin Keirsher Ruscombmanor, Berks, PA abt 1837 PA >> Benjamin Kershner Upper Tulpehocken, Berks, PA abt 1838 PA >> >> >> Here is link to the Hist Soc. >> http://www.berkshistory.org/library/churches.html >> >> Diana in AL >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== >> PABERKS@rootsweb.com >> >> To contact the List Administrator: >> Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> To visit the Berks Message Board: >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks >> >> To visit the Berks County, PA website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ >> Hosted by Nancy Freehafer >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenan, Goodman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.7/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the Reading, Berks County Death records Benjamin Keenan d. 6/5/1882 Mrs. Mary Keenan d. 11/29/1879 Benj.Keenan d.9/13/1891 Suanna Keenan d. 1/17/1883 George F. Keenan d. 3/11/1874 Harry Norton Keenan d.1/26/1896 Catharine Keenan d.1/7/1902 James Keenan d. 7/2/1901 Deborah Keenan d. 4/18/1895 Reading marriage records: Harry N. Keenan m. Laura E. Goodman, 1895, Vol. 16, p. 238 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might also want to look at this family in Reading in 1880 because the unreadable male in the 1850 census could have been Jas. for James. 1880 411 S. 7th St., Reading, Berks Co., PA Roll 1101 p. 34 ED 40 Benja. Keenen, 72, father, carpenter, b. PA James Keenen, 47, works in cotton mill, b. PA Kate Keenen, 45, wife, b. PA Sallie Keenen, 24, daughter, works in cotton mill, b. PA Mary Keenen, 22, daughter, at home, b. PA Charles Keenen, 20, son, machinist, b. PA Elizabeth Keenen, 13, daughter, b. PA James Keenen, 12, son, b. PA Benjamin Keenen, son, 8, b. PA Harry Keenen, 6, son, b. PA Joseph Keenen, 4, son, b. PA Orwilla Keenen, 1, b. PA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As a matter of fact, if the 1850 Lancaster family is correct, and the 1860 Reading family as well, then your Benajmin's parents were alive and living in Reading in 1870. Their son David was now married and had a daughter. 1870 Reading, Wd. 2, Berks Co., PA Roll 1307 p. 717 Benj. Kennen, 65, carpenter, b. PA Mary Kennen, 67, keeping house, b. PA Margr. Keenen, 37, b. PA David Keenen, 28, roller, b. PA Susan Keenen, 25, keeping house, b. PA Marg. Keenen, 3, b. PA Betty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richard_m_parker Surnames: Merkel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in Esther Merkel, perhaps known as Hannah Esther Merkel, born 28 Sep 1820. Does she appear in this record? If so, this would resolve a major roadblock for me. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I clicked on the Message Board but could not get into it or was I able to do a search. Do you have any William Williams or Nathan W. Williams listed in the church records or siblings of same. Thanking you in advance, Joan Kuhlman, Sterling, Colorado ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Zion (Moselem) Lutheran Church, Richmond Township > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have an old typed copy of the Moselem church records. Jacob FREY > appears on 3 pages in the baptisms:

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keenon, Kunen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If the Benjaman Keenon found in the 1850 Lancaster census is your correct family, then the father did not die by 1860. It looks like he was alive and well and appeared in the 1860 census of Reading, Berks County, PA Don't let the various spellings and birth places fool you...the census had many mistakes in them. 1850 Lancaster NW Ward, Landaster Co., PA Roll 788 p. 293 Benjamin Keenon, 44, laborer, b. in Germany Mary Keenon, 44, 46, b. Germany ureadable male Keenon, 17, b. Germany Margaret Keenon, 16 b. Germany Bejamin Keenon, 12 b. Germany David Keenon, 8 b. Germany 1860 Reading, Spruce Wd., Berks Co., PA Roll 1077 p.989 Benjamin Kunen, 52, carpenter, b. PA Mary Kunen, 55, b. PA Margaret Kunen, 27, b. PA David N. Kunen, 18, carpenter b. PA Betty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrbfamily Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have an old typed copy of the Moselem church records. Jacob FREY appears on 3 pages in the baptisms: 20 Sept 1789 Jacob FREY and wife Catharina were sponsors at the bapt of Catharina VOLCK b. 5 Sept 1789, dau of Jacob & Maria Catharina VOLCK. 23 May 1790 Jacob & Catharina FREY had their son Johannes, b. 15 Apr 1790, bapt there, with sponsors David KAMP Sr. and wife Dorothea. 20 March 1794 Jacob & Catharina FREY were sponsors for bapt of Abraham FREY b. 6 March 1794, son of Abraham & Catharina FREY. That's all -- Jacob's not listed among the Deacons, or communicants (very few recorded), nor marriages (spotty records), and he's not in the list of graves at Moselem. Also no one under spelling FRY. There are a bunch of other FREY names. If you'll give me individuals' names and estimated date of birth, I'll check them out. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Take a look at this 1850 Census image in Lancaster, NW Ward. The surname looks like KIENAN....handwriting is bad. But there is father Benjamin, Mother Mary. Son Benjamin is age 12. This is probably your Benjamin. The enumerator erred and has ditto marks for everyone under line 12, as born in Germany, when it is probably PA, for line 13 and down. Note the last line which shows Germany as place of birth for the last name on the page. I looked in 1840 Census, 3 years after your Benjamin was born in both Lanc and Berks Co., but did not find anything. Since his mother is Mary, this could be the family. Diana in AL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keithnuttle Surnames: Keenen, Kaman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I checked the 1850 census and found this person. While the name is index differently, in looking at the image it could be Keenen Name: Benjamin Kaman Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Birth Place: Germany Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Lancaster North West Ward, Lancaster, Pennsylvania In the census his father is listed as Benjamin and his mother is listed as Mary. In 1850 there are two children younger and two children old than Benjamin. Hope this is the lead you need. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bobtodd184 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have his death certificate? If not, go to the PA Dept of Health's web page and order it. The mother and fathers name are two blanks that should be filled in. Good Luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.