This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrbfamily Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Moselem church book doesn't include anyone under the spelling FRY. There are 4 under FREI -- Anna Maria, Heinrich, Magdalena, Mathies. Magdalena was the wife of Heinrich and had a son Heinrich b. 21 Apr 1764. Mathies m. Anna Maria & had dau Anna Maria 19 Dec 1768. JRB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrbfamily Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: (A) FREY Abraham FREY and Dieny [ Catharina?] SCHOLL sponsored bapt of Catharina KNUTEL on 10 Sept 1786, dau of Johannes & Christina KNUTEL. Abraham FREY and wife Catharina sponsored Georg SCHROER on 26 July 1789, son of Johan Georg & Catharina SCHROER. Catharina FREY b. 4 Jun 1789, bapt 23 Aug 1789, dau of Abraham & Catharina FREY, sponsors David KEMP Sr. and wife Dorothea. Johannes FREY b. 10 Feb 1792, bapt 15 Apr 1792, son of Abraham & Catharina FREY, sp. Johannes STOUDT and Elisabetha FREY, both single. Abraham FREY b. 6 Mar 1794, bapt 20 Mar 1794, son of Abraham & Catharina FREYm, sp. Jacob FREY and wife Catharina. Johannes FREY, b. 15 Apr 1790, bapt 23 May 1790, son of Jacob & Catharina, sp. Abraham LOESCHER & Rosina ADAM. Daniel FREY b. 22 Nov 1807, bapt 24 Dec 1807, son of Solomon & Eva FREY, sp. Friderich & Elisabeth ZIELER. (B) KAMP / KEMP etc. Eva Catharina KAMB b. 23 Mar 1771, bapt 5 May 1771, dau of David & Dorothea KAMB, sp. Leonhard MAJER [MAIER] and wife Catharina. David KAMB and son Johannes KAMB confirmed 8 Apr 1785. George David KAMP 12 Sept 1758 - 16 Oct 1836, Revolutionary War [Moselem graveyard]. George David KAMP b. 12 Sept 1757 [sic], bapt 18 June 1758, son of David KAMP and wife Dorothea KERN, sp. Georg KERN and wife Anna. David KAMP & Eva FREY sponsored bapt of Eva Margaretha BRION on 26 Jan 1755, dau of Jacob BRION and wife Anna Maria KAMP. Johan Georg KAMP b. 20 Mar 1757, bapt 8 Apr 1757, son of David KAMP and wife Dorothea KERN, sp. Johannes RUEGER and wife Barbara. Anna Dorothea b. 7 Nov 1765, bapt 8 Dec 1765, dau of David KAMP and Anna Dorothea, sp. Anna Dorothea SCHEER (only one sponsor). David & Dorothea KAMP on 26 Apr 1766 sponsored bapt of Jacob KAMP b. 26 Mar 1767 , son of Daniel & Catharina KAMP. David KEMP Sr. & wife Dorothea on 23 Aug 1789 sponsored bapt of Catharina FREY b.4 June 1789, dau of Abraham & Catharine FREY. David KAMP Sr. & wife Dorothea on 20 Jan 1794 sponsored bapt of Catharina KAMP b. 5 Nov 1793, dau of Johannes & Margaretha KAMP. Maria Catharina KAMP b. 24 Oct 1768, bapt 4 Dec 1768, dau of David and Anna Dorothea KAMP, sp. Johan Georg SCHNEIDER and wife Catharina. Elisabetha KAMP b. 14 Mar 1773, bapt 20 Aug 1773, dau of David & Dorothea KAMP, sp. Friederich DUNKELBERGER and wife Catharina. Elisabetha KAMP b 8 Apr 1781, bapt 16 Jun 1781, dau of David [Jr.] & Magdalena KAMP, sp. Conrad STENGER & Dorothea KEMP. Anna Maria KAMP b. 22 Mar 1782, bapt 16 Apr 1782, dau of David & Dorothea KAMP, sp. by the parents. Catharina BRAUN nee KAMP, 4 Apr 1794 - 6 Aug 1834, wife of Friedrich BRAUN (Moselem graveyard). Gravestone next to Catharina KAMP BRAUN: Friedrich BRAUN, 14 Dec 1792 - 4 Sept 1864, husband of Elisabeth STAUDT. Note: The list called Burials at Moselem Church, Richmond Township, is a list of graveyard stones 'copied by Bernice M. Sell in 1977' (so won't include all the burials from early days). You're welcome -- this sort of search is a wee bit I can do for my fellow human beings these days. JRB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: KEENAN, SHENEMAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have SHENEMANs. Anna Maria SHENEMAN was dau of Benjamin SHENEMAN and Anna Maria REISS/RICE, of Vincent. I knew that Anna Maria was married to James KEENAN. I had that James died bef 1840. Am gad to see your date of 1837. I did not know they had a son named Benjamin, but that stands to reason they did, and named him after her father! Am glad to know her death date and buried at St Mary's Episcoal. There is a volunteer in Chester county who will photo tombstones at St Mary's. Dan Lindley. I will write him to see if he can find them at St Mary's. He had already submitted quite a few photos from that cemetery. When her mother, Anna Maria REISS SHENEMAN, died, James received money from her estate for Anna Maria. I have a copy of the estate file: "Adm of estate of Anna Maria Sheneman, late of West Vincent Township, by Zacharias aka Reese/Rees Sheneman, Henry Mosteller, and James L Neiler on 11/14/1834 when bond was posted for $500. Inventory and appraisal by Michael King and Jesse Jones 11/8/1834. Her estate was valued at $301.76 3/4. Son Rees Sheneman submitted accounting on 12/30/1835: The following was paid: Henry Mosteller was reimbursed $30 for funeral expenses that he paid. Coffin was $8 Digging grave $2.25 after other misc expenses 'each' of the 11 children received $15.88 as follows: Peter Snyder (m dau Elizabeth) James Keenan (m dau Anna Maria) Sarah Sturgis (had married Rees Sturgis) Henry Mosteller (m dau Margaret) Benjamin Sheneman - son John Sheneman - son Henry Sheneman - son Jacob Sheneman - son Joseph Sheneman - son Peter Sheneman - son Rees/Zacharias Sheneman - son The final accounting was examined and confirmed by the court on 3/15/1835. Anna Maria and Benjamin SHENEMAN are buried at St Peters on Cover Mill Rd in W Pikeland. Here is Census that I had found for these KEENANs: 1830 Census, W Nantmeal, Chester Co PA James 0-1-1-2-2-0-0-1 ||3-1-0-0-1-0-1 father is age 50-60, mother is 40-50. 1840 Census, W Nantmeal, Chester Co Mary Keenan, 2 sons 20-30, 2 daus 10-15, 2 daus 15-20, 1 female 50-60. 1850 Census, West Nantmeal, Chester Co PA, image 38 on Ancestry.com: Mary Keenan, age 63, PA Jos Keenan, age 29 millwright, PA Maria, age 24, PA Phebe, age 22, PA Johnson, age 8, PA, attended school within the year Isaac Guest, age 17 farmer, PA 1860 Census, W Nantmeal, Chester Co PA, image 22 on Ancestry.com Joseph Keenan, age 36, farmer, born PA, $5000, $7200? Mary Keenan, age 76, born PA (widowed mother) Maria Keenan, age 26, PA Jesse Keenan, age 7, PA 1870 Census W Nantmeal, Chester Co PA, image 9 on Ancestry Joseph Keenan, age 52, farmer, $6000, $1000, PA Mary Keenan, age 84, keeping house, PA Maria, age 48, at home, PA Emma Berrie, age 15, at school, PA I would look for a death notice for Mary in Chester Co. at the Hist Soc. at their newspaper clipping file in 1871. W Nantmeal and St Mary's is around Rt 23 which goes to Morgantown, below Reading. There are Episcopal churches in Morgantown too - Bangor is one of the oldest. Rev. Levi Bull served at both St Mary's and Bangor for a time. You may want to contact Tri-County Heritage society also. Looks like your roadblock is tumbling down! I have ties to another branch of SHENEMANs and have been trying to research all 11 of Benjamin's children! >From the 1830 Census, it looks like James had quite a few children! Diana in AL audianaq@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am researching the Philip Kline family. I believe his wife is Catherine (Forney?) and his first child is,Alfred,J. Kline listed as born in Hamburg, 1839, on his death record. In 1850 census Philip Kline and family are living in Philadelphia. However, when Alfred J. Kline enlisted in the Civil War, January, 1864, he is enlisted at Brandy Station but lists his residence as Berks County. In 1860 census, Alfred is living in Philadelphia as well as 1870, etc. I am trying to find out more about the family of Philip Kline who is living in Windsor, Berks Co. in 1840 census. He lists a male under 5, a male 20-30, and a female 15-20. This agrees with the birth years I have for Philip, his wife Catherine and Alfred. Also listed above Philip is a Sarah Kline and I am wondering if they could be related. Also, in checking 1840 census records other Klines living in Windsor are David, George, John, Samiel (sp), Solomon. Could they all be related? Anyone related to these Klines? Or, have any information about them? What records would be available in this timeframe? Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrbfamily Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: (A) There are 3 KOLLER or KOLLERT entries in Moselem church book: Margaret KOLLER, confirmed 8 Apr 1785 Lydia KOLLER b. 12 Jan 1803, bapt 3 Apr 1803, dau of Jacob & Catharina KOLLER, bapt sponsors John MOLL and Hanna SCHUMACHER. David KOLLERT b. 13 July 1804, bapt 1 Sept 1804, son of Johannes & Barbara KOLLERT, bapt sponsors Peter GLASER and Catharina. (B) There are quite a few KOHLER entries -- here are the ones involving given names you mentioned -- the most common Johannes KOHLER was a generation older than the one you are looking for, baptizing children in the 1750s, himself confirmed 1778: Confirmed 27 June 1778 were Johannes KOHLER and wife Anna Margaretha and 3 daughters: Anna Margaretha, Catharina, and Margaretha Sophia. Johannes KOHLER b. 15 Mar 1769, bapt 30 Apr 1769, son of Johannes KOHLER and wife Anna Maria, bapt sponsors Georg SPOHN and wife Margaretha. Heinrich KOHLER b. 17 Sept 1750, bapt 17 Oct 1750, son of Johannes KOHLER and wife Anna Margaretha HAS, sponsors Heinrich SCHAEFER and wife Juliana. Anna Rosina KOHLER b. 26 Fb 1754, bapt 23 March 1754, dau of Johannes KOHLER and wife Maria HAS, sponsors Michael KELCHNER and Rosina HAS. Johannes KOHLER and wife Anna Maria [this appears to be a remarriage or another man] sponsored bapt of Anna Maria SCHAEFER 12 Oct 1755, dau of Heinrich SCHAEFFER and wife Juliana. Anna Maria KOHLER b. 13 Aug 1757, bapt 11 Sept 1757, dau of Johannes KOHLER and wife Anna Maria HAFA, sponsors Michael HAFA and wife Maria Charlotta. Anna Elisabetha KOHLER b. 19 June 1764, bapt 2 Sept 1764, dau of Johanes KOHLER and Anna Maria, sponsors Johanes RIEGER and wife Barbara. Christina KOHLER, b. 27 Sept 1766, bapt 30 Nov 1766, dau of Johannes & Anna Maria , sponsors Heinrich HAFFA and wife Salome. Johannes KOHLER b. 15 Mar 1769, bapt 30 Apr 1769, dau of Johannes & Anna Maria KOHLER, sp. Georg SPOHN & wife Margaretha. David A. KOHLER b. 9 Aug 1885, d. 21 Jan 1949, with wife Ellazyda M.L. KOHLER nee MERKEL b. 12 Oct 1860, d. 6 Feb 1940. Maria KOHLER stood sponsor 10 Mar 1776 for bapt of Susanna HILL, dau of Jacob & Barbara HILL; cosponsor was Frederich KRAEMER. No Daniel MERTZ except an infant burial. No one named KIRBY. (C) You said Sarah Ann KOLLER married an unknown HOCH -- here's a possible trace: Johannes & Sarah Ann HOCH buried a toddler dau named Amanda HOCH, b. 9 Jan 1851, d. 28 Apr 1852. Rather later: Infant dau. HOCH b. 1887, of Samuel & Sarah (child burial). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrbfamily Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is no Hannah nor Esther MERKEL b. as late as 1820 recorded at Moselem. Several with those names in the 1700s, and one b. 20 Jan 1811, d. 16 July 1866, who m. Daniel WILTRAUT -- she is buried at Moselem Church. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vgroome1 Surnames: FRY, FREY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: oops, forgot to include the FRY spelling as well as FREY. They seem to be interchangeable in this family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vgroome1 Surnames: Frey, Kamp Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is wonderful! Here are the other names I'm looking for (with birthdates) FREY surname: Johann Abraham, 1768; Mary Magdalena & Maria Barbara, 1781 (Twins?); Jacob, 1787; John & Catharine, 1789 (Twins?); Samuel, 1790-1800; Daniel, 1790-1800; Polly, 1790-1800; John, 1792. Also Catharine KAMP, d/o David Kamp, Sr., probably born 1765-1770. Is there a complete list of burials for the cemetery? In the burials I'm looking for the following: David KAMP, Sr. & wife, Dorothea KAMP, Abraham FREY, born 1794, Daniel FREY (unknown birthdate). Thank you so much for your help! Vicki Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vlhartman Surnames: Koller, Mertz, Hoch, Kirby Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9868.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in determining information for Johannes Koller. Do you show any information for him in that church? I am from Berks County originally and was raised there but as with most things as a child you don't remember names of places, exact names anyway. I believe he is buried at the UCC church of what we used to call the "twin churches". But I also know that some of the Koller's were buried in the "other" church yard as well, but that they were during later years. My Johannes would have been born about 1775 we believe and died between 1851 and 1856. We also are pretty sure that he had four children: John, Sarah Anne or "Sally" m: unknown Hoch, David (my line)m: Hannah Kirby and Maria "Polly" m to Daniel Mertz Any help would be greatly appreciated. Vicki Koller Hartman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The James I referred to lived from 1777-1837 and was buried in Elverson (supposedly) in Chester Co. I have him listed as being buried in St Marys Episcopal Church there. And that's pretty close to Reading. James was married to a Mary Sheneman, 1786-1871, buried there too. They had a Benjamin during the first few years they were married, which would put the other Benjamin, of Reading, at about the same time. I have a county road map book for both Lancaster & Chester Co's, and both include Reading at the top of their maps. So I can make ut distances from where the Keenans lived. They do help. I did get something back from the cemetery, they were only able to give me burial lot numbers and the Keenans buried there, with death dates. No if I can jut get bituaries for Benjamin and James, I'll be good. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might want to locate maps of the Chester, Lancaster and Berks County locations you have identified. These three county lines all meet near each other and the three locations may be not be far apart. One may be only a few miles from the other and not great distances apart. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The death certificate for your Benjamin may have been as correct as his son-in-law could make it. He was working in a difficult time. He may only have known that the family lived in Reading and assumed that is where Benjamin was born. Your real key will be the the obituaries of Benjamin in Reading or Mrs. Mary Kennan, where it might list all of their children. Also don't discount the obituaries of siblings, they often note any surviving brothers and sisters. If James of Chester county had a son Benjamin, it might explain why Benjamin of Reading named his first born son, James. Perhaps James of Chester was a brother to Benjamin of Reading, and James of Chester, most likely being a contemporary of Benjamin of Reading, would be having children at the same time as Benjamin of Reading. James may have named his son after his brother Benjamin. When Benjamin of Reading had a second son he named him Benjamin. We often find cousins born around the same time with the same name. So the Chester County Benjamin may be a cousin of your Benjamin instead of your Benjamin. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believ Benjamin Sr was raised in Chester Co, around Barneston or near the border of Berks and Chester. as early as 1838, he may have been the one in Lancaster. Im guessing it was either Chester r Lancaster he was married in. I have no clue what denomination he was affiliated with, but he was raised most likely Episcopal, but then either remained that, or converted to either Lutheranism or Catholicism. My guess is he was Lutheran or Episcopalian. With ne info, I can probably find it better in one of three counties. Lutherans kpt alot of records, the Episcopalians almost a much and the Catholics not nearly. But I hope I can find something, then I can verify what Mary's last name really was. Could be Norton instead of Horton, which would account for David N's middle name in the 1860 census. Alot to think about. Just hope I'm lucky in finding the marriage record. I'm thinking Lancaster or Chester Co, since the family moved to Reaading later after they had children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The only WILLIAMS in the Moselem church book is Elisabetha WILLIAMS who served as a sponsor at the baptism of Johan Michael MUELLER, b. 20 July 1761, bapt 30 July 1761, son of Heinrich Adam and Maria Anna MUELLER; the other bapt sponsor was also a Joh. Michael MUELLER. On Friday, March 14, 2008, at 04:38 AM, Resource Recovery wrote: > I clicked on the Message Board but could not get into it or was I able > to do > a search. > > Do you have any William Williams or Nathan W. Williams listed in the > church > records or siblings of same. > > Thanking you in advance, Joan Kuhlman, Sterling, Colorado

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was thinking, both the obituary and death certificate for my Benjamin were probably incorrect in stating that he was born in Reading and regarding the last name of his mother. It woul seem odd that he was born in Reading, the family moves to Lancaster City, then back to Reading only to ive there from 1860 onward. If they were incorrect, then the informant on his death cetificate mislead me and a cousin of mine who've been working on identifying his parents for God knows how long. I only started doin genealogy in 1999 and met my cousin in 2002, both of us being stumped on who his father was, thinking he died prior to 1860 and Benjamin being born in reading when he could have possibly been born here in Lancaster. Then the family moving to Reading. Leaving him behind to apprentice for a smithing trade. If he is Benjamin & Mary's son, then he named his children after his siblings, James, Margaret, & David. He named his children James Parke, Margaret L., & David Alfred. It now ! makes sense who he named them after. I also have a picture of my Benjamin, his daughters and an unidentified man seeming to be about as old as himself, if not, a few years older or younger and possibly being a brother to him, maybe David, since it was taken after 1900. Now that I have the info you gave me, things are starting to click that were mysteries to me or that I was confused about. I thank you for all that info. Hopefully he does belong to the family of Benjamin & Mary. Then I can place my Benjamin and put the puzzle together and link him and his father to James & Mary Keenan of Barneston, Chester Co. James had a son Benjamin, born about the same time as the other Benjamin born in the early 1800's. Definitely thankful for your help. I appreciate it. Alot. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Regarding the marriage record, you would not only have to have an idea of what denomination they may have been, but where they may have married. Not all marriages were performed by clergy, there were Justices of the Peace from early on. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Keener Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I checked both the 1830 and 1840 census index for Lancaster, Chester, and Berks Counties. There was no Benjamin in 1840 who had a surname anywhere near Keenan or the other various spellings. The closest I could find in 1830 was a Benjamin Keener in Bart Twp., Lancaster County,Roll 153, page 492. This Benjamin was between the age of 30 and 40. The oldest female in that household was between 20 and 30. There appear to be two children, 1 male under age 5 and 1 female under age 5. With the bad spellings on the census records it is diffucult to find the right name, even using soundex Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just now contactedboth he library and cemetery, so I hope to have more info by the end of the day. I need exact birh & death dates for both Benjamin & Mary, so I asked the cemetery for that. Do you know of any way I could get a marriage record for Benjamin & Mary? I'm guessing they were Episcopal and I think there's always years of records kept for church events or baptisms, deaths, marriages, etc. It would probably have been prior to James' birth in 1833. I hate to ask, but could you do a lookup for Benjamin Sr in 1830 & 1840? Since I now have the last 4 censuses he appeared in, I thought I'd ask. If he's the son of who I think he is, he was in Lancaster in 1838, being that his father had died the year before and was lilsted as being in East Earl Twp of Lancaster Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjburdan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The library will do NO look ups for free. They charge for each one, and you need to supply them with a death date or a date within 3-4 days of the actual death. Since you do not live in Berks, they may honor your request. The fee would depend on the degree of difficulty in findig the obituary. Reading Library is on line with contact information. Only they can tell you how much they would charge. Another avenue might be to contact the Charles Evans Cemetery. They have more information on the individual burials listed in the Charles Evans Burial Index CD. Charles Evans is on line and I think there is contact information on the site. They used to do look ups free, but that may have changed. A son-in-law is not the best candidate for supplying information on a death certificate. They often don't know the correct information or supply mis-information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j_d_arment Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9867.2.1.9.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What I have is the death certificate. I don't know how Benjamin would have known his mother and not his faher, unles he didn't really care to remember his father at all. Because the certificate gives only his other's name, not his father's. My Benjamin's son-in-law, Amos Ayers, was the informant. I guess Benjamin brought up his parents at some point and Amos only seemed to remember her, I don't know. But to call you a god send for all the info you've supplied me with would be an understatement. Without it, I wouldn't be thinking twice abut Benjamin and Mary being his parents. Would the library do one or two look ups for free? I live in Lancaster, just outside the eastern border of the city. And I don't have a way to get there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.