My line seems to have passed through Berks County in the late 1700's. It appears that Johan George Stuyvesant and Christinia arrived from Germany about 1755 and began raising a family. My line is through their son Tobias who moved on to what is now Armstrong County. The name appears to have been STUYVESANT as in the Peter in New York but gradually Anglicized. I have found the subject and several other variations in the deeds of only one person. I am looking for any information on the family but especially on Tobias (Steibfsannt Stivenson Stevenson) Stuyvesant the son of Johan George Stuyvesant and Christinia (or Eva Christina) Scholl. The variations in the name are many but became Stivenson for my line. Ancestry reports a birth for Tobias on July 15 1759 and a Christening on July 29 1759 for Tobias Stephesand the child of Johna George and Christina at Oley Hill Church; Sponsors Tobias Schall and Magdalene, the maternal grandparents. A very kind soul confirmed this reference which is on pg. 7 of Volume 2. Could anyone confirm any other children for them from Volume 1 or 3? I believe that there were also George 1761 and Magdalena 1765 but there could be others. I would have expected Johan George and Christina to marry about 1758 and Tobias and Elizabeth to marry about 1780-85. Do they appear anywhere in those books and is it possible to read Elizabeth's maiden name?? Other names of interest are: LYNCH, THOMPSON, JACKSON, ROSS AND McKINSTRY. Many thanks Bob

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathi227 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10286/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Isaac kuhns and his son jacob I have no other information ecept that jacob was born in berks county abt 1784 and isaac was born abt 1746but i do not know where. Any help would be appreciated kathi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of the birth certificates for these folks? I have copies of the church records showing their marriages in 1825 & 1851but am looking for birth records. I understand Martin Buchter (spouse of Lydia) died in Andersonville Prison during the Civil War. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Maureen Buchter Surwillo Modesto, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hvermilya1 Surnames: Hartinger, Walters Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10285/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Want information on Hartinger. Lydia Hartinger was married to Daniel H. Walters from Union County or Lycoming County Pennsylvania. They are buried in Cemetery on Allenwood Federal Penitentiary, Allenwood Pennsylvania. The area was called "Alvira". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Everyone, Does anyone know of a Boiler Accident in Reading, PA in the 1930's where a man named Frank Stein was killed? He was living on Elm Street in Reading in 1923 or 1924. Thank you, Chris Smithson -- Christopher T. "Chris" Smithson Genealogist General, HOSBD State Historian, MDSSAR Secretary/Registrar, Col. Aquila Hall Chapter, MDSSAR Senior Society President, Bush Declaration Society, (Maryland) NSCAR 4219 Paddrick Road Darlington, Maryland 21034-1034 (410) 836-3433 (Home) (443) 350-7650 (Cell) [email protected]

Hi. I am looking for a record for the birth and or the baptism of William Nunnemacher, son of Jacob Nunnepacher. I have the Nunnemacher records of St. Michael's Church, Bern starting 1810 (1810-1880), but I don't have data for earlier than that. Siblings born after 1810 appear in the book. If anyone on the list can copy the title page and baptismal/birth data for William, I would be very grateful. William was a son of Jacob and Phillipina (Goettel) Nunnemacher. Thanks, John Sassaman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oldohioschools Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10284/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out the names and locations of the children of Bernard Hotter who died in July 1976 in Reading. Still not sure of an exact date of death. Thanks to all who help here. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hilda H. SEIDEL, was born in 1900 in Oley Township, Berks Co., PA. She died on 20 Feb 1952 at the age of 52 in Pottstown, PA. She was buried in Friedens Union Cemetery, Oley, PA. Hilda resided last at 236 South Washington Street, Boyertown, she died in the Pottstown Hospital, where she was a patient for nine weeks. She became a school teacher in 1918, following graduation from Boyertown High School. She received an advanced degree from Kutztown State Normal School in 1937 with highest honors. She taught at Pike and Colebrookdale Townships for several terms, four years at Birdsboro and lastly at the Washington Grade School of Boyertown, which she retired from in 1951, as principal. She was a member of Trinity Evangelical Congregational Church and was superintendent of the Sunday School Primary Department for 25 years. She was also a member of Pottstown Hospital Auxillary and the Washington School PTA. Surviving are brothers, Rev. Grant H. Seidel, Allentown and Ray H. Seidel, Mt. Penn. Sisters Edna, wife of Joel Reichard, Douglassville; Marie, wife of Elmer Detweiler, Pottstown; and Lee Seidel, Metuchen, NJ. Hilda H. SEIDEL and Thomas Miller LEINBACH were married in Mar 1938 in Berks County, PA. Thomas Miller LEINBACH was born on 17 Mar 1915. He died in May 1974 at the age of 59. He was buried in Friedens Union Cemetery, Oley, PA. Sources 1. Friedens Union Cemetery, Oley, PA. 2. Newspaper, Reading Eagle. 3. SS Death Records at Rootsweb.com. Guy Bierman Bonita Evjen wrote: > I'm looking for an obit for Hilda Seidel Leinbach. I just received info where she was buried but it just has the year. Could someone find an obit with the death date??? > She is buried in Freidens Cem in Oley with her husband Thomas M. and his second wife Hilda Fehr. > > >

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Jacob Harrison CARL which was taken at the Strunk Studio in Reading, Pennsylvania. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Jacob about 1-2 years old at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding Jacob and his family: Jacob H. CARL was b. 6 Sept 1888 in Friedensburg, PA to parents Morris R. CARL (b. Jan 1866 in Knauers, PA) and Kate E. ? (b. Jan 1869 in OH). Carl died in Reading, PA in Aug 1976. 1900 census of Reading, PA: Morris CARL, age 34 Kate E. CARL, age 31 Jacob H. CARL, age 11 Walter R. CARL, age 6 I am hoping to locate someone from this CARL Family so that this precious old photograph can be returned to its rightful place, with family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StevenParker413 Surnames: Kinder Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10283/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have traced my mother's line back to George Kinder who was supposedly the first immigrant in the early 1700s. He settled in PA (first in Berks County and then Washington County) and had a daughter named Mary and a son named Valentine. If anyone has any other information on him I would love to know it. Trying to find out where he came from and when he came. Have some clues but no proof. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm looking for an obit for Hilda Seidel Leinbach. I just received info where she was buried but it just has the year. Could someone find an obit with the death date??? She is buried in Freidens Cem in Oley with her husband Thomas M. and his second wife Hilda Fehr. Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin 1759

More Information to clarify terms: When a property is patented, legal title to the property is transferred from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania or Proprietors to a private individual or corporation. All subsequent transactions between private individuals are done through deeds, not patents. The "traditional" process to patent a vacant tract of land in Pennsylvania involved several steps. First, an individual or his agent identified a piece of vacant property and applied to the land office for a warrant. If approved, a warrant to survey was issued. Next, the land would be surveyed. Once the survey and other patenting fees were paid, the survey was returned and a patent issued. This process, however, was not only way to patent a parcel of land. Another process is based on settlement and improvement. Basically a settler who squatted on a piece of vacant land could apply for a warrant based on his or her settlement and improvement of the land. This could be several years, even decades after the settler's initial occupation of the property. It could even be someone other than the original settler. Based on the application, a survey would be performed and a warrant to accept prepared. After all fees were paid a patent would be issued. What is the difference between an owner and a patentee of the same property? The owner is the person who possesses the property at any given time. The patentee is the person or persons the patent was issued to. The patentee never changes for a tract of land, while ownership changes as the land is bought, sold, inherited and divided. A good book on Pennsylvania's land records is Donna Munger's Pennsylvania Land Records: A History and Guide for Research. It is available free online through Google Books. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at 717-787-8953 or at the email address below. Sincerely, Aaron McWilliams Pennsylvania State Archives 350 North Street Harrisburg, PA 17120-0090 717-787-8953 [email protected] Lynn K. Blenderman ************************************************************************************ They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benj. Franklin, 1759 Walter G. Blenderman, Lynn K. Blenderman, N. Plainfield, NJ, USA **mailto:[email protected]*******************************http://www.blenderman.net **

For your information - regarding PA warrantee maps and names which appear on the PA Warrant Register index pages: <http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r17-88WarrantRegisters/r17-88AllCountiesInterface.htm > and the subsequent web site for map images (which can be viewed and downloaded): <http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r17-114CopiedSurveyBooks/r17-114MainInterfacePage.htm > Dear Ms. Blenderman: The warrantee is the individual named on the warrant, which is simply an order to survey a tract of land. The warrant provides the basis for legal settlement but does not convey all rights to the property. The warrantee may or may not be the first settler on the property. The patentee is the individual who receives the patent. This person could be the warrantee. The patentee could also be a subsequent owner of the property, who purchased it from the warrantee or another owner. The patentee is often not the original settler of the property, but simply a subsequent owner who paid the patenting fee. When the warrantee and patentee for a tract of land are different, it typically means the land was sold by the warrantee at some point in time to another individual or individuals. The land may pass through any number of hands until someone decides to pay the fees to have the land patented. Anyone of the owners of the property, including the warrantee, could have lived on the property and improved it prior to the patentee. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at 717-787-8953 or at the email address below. Sincerely, Aaron McWilliams Pennsylvania State Archives 350 North Street Harrisburg, PA 17120 717-787-8953 [email protected] Lynn K. Blenderman ************************************************************************************ They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benj. Franklin, 1759 Walter G. Blenderman, Lynn K. Blenderman, N. Plainfield, NJ, USA **mailto:[email protected]*******************************http://www.blenderman.net **

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SharonKleinstuber Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10280.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Contact me at [email protected] Then I can send you some of my charts. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Judy........Someone sent me the actual reading from the tombstone. Her death date is the Jan 25th 1849: Sarah Schneider Tochter von Michael und Eva Knabb. Sie wurde geboren den 28ten Juli 1764 verheirathete sich mit Daniel Schneider, den ? October 1783? (I have marriage as 10/14/1783 by Rev. Wilhelm Boos) lebte in der Ehe mit ihm 33 Jahre 1 monat u. 18 Tage (?) Zeugte in denselben 3 Söhne und 8 Tochter. Ist gestorben den 25sten Januar 1849 brachte ihr Alter auf 84 Jahre 5 Monate u. 27 Tage." This gives her birthdate as 28 Jul 1764 based on her age at death date of 84/5/27. Schwarzwald Reformed deaths also has Sarah SNYDER age 84/5/27 died 1/25/1849. The other date you have must have been a transcription/typo error in the book? Thank you for the information on her parents that connect with your line! Another cousin connection! Diana [email protected] [email protected] wrote on Tue, 3 May 2011 I'd like to make sure I have the correct information on Sarah KNABB (dau of Michael KNABB and E. Magdalena SELTZER). Corrections (with sources!) welcomed. >From a post (on this list, I believe) several years ago of the descendants of Nicholas Knabb, there is a Sarah S. KNABB, b. 28 July 1764, d. 25 Jan 1849. No marriage listed. Diana's recent post noted that Sarah Elizabeth KNABB m. as his second wife Daniel SNYDER. In _A Genealogical Guide to Berks county Private Cemeteries_ in the Snyder Cemetery in Oley Twp. is noted the burial of Sarah SNYDER, d. 29 Jan 1849, aged 84-5-27. This age at death calculates to a birth date of 2 Aug 1764. Given different ways of calculating dates and/or errors in reading tombstones as well as the names of the SNYDER children buried near her (Catherine and Ester, names of two of Sarah's KNABB seven siblings, it looks as if this is the Sarah SNYDER above. My German genes would just like to resolve the difference in dates/names. Thanks for any help! Judy Castle Stubbs

Oh you are so correct. I copied the wrong names as parents.. Michael and Eva were the Grandparents. The parents I have for Lydia/Lidia Knabb were Michael Knabb and Caroline maiden name possible Guienther. The Children I have for Jacob Grant and Lydia Knabb Grant were Hiram Knabb Grant born 8/9/1825. Caroline born 1827, Wellington b 1829 and maybe a Sarah and an Emma. Thank you so much for finding my error. 2/27/1886 is the death date I have for Lydia Knabb Grant. Buried at Schwartzwald cemetery Jacksonwald. Pa. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PABERKS] GRANT, KNABB In a message dated 5/3/2011 9:35:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: My ancestor Jacob Grant/Graend born 9/2/1802 married Liddie/ Lydia Knabb ( I have seen her grave at Schwartzwald Church Cemetery. She is the daughter of Michael and Eva Magdalena Seltzer. Lydia was born 8/24/1803 and she Married Jacob Grant 12/12/1824. If your dates are correct, Lydia Knabb could not be the dau of Michael Knabb and E. Magdalena Seltzer. Michael died in 1778. E. Magdalena died in 1823 but would have been 68 in 1803. ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== [email protected] To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, [email protected] To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 5/3/2011 9:35:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: My ancestor Jacob Grant/Graend born 9/2/1802 married Liddie/ Lydia Knabb ( I have seen her grave at Schwartzwald Church Cemetery. She is the daughter of Michael and Eva Magdalena Seltzer. Lydia was born 8/24/1803 and she Married Jacob Grant 12/12/1824. If your dates are correct, Lydia Knabb could not be the dau of Michael Knabb and E. Magdalena Seltzer. Michael died in 1778. E. Magdalena died in 1823 but would have been 68 in 1803.

Hi: With all the information on Knabb I have a question and hope someone may have the answer.. My ancestor Jacob Grant/Graend born 9/2/1802 married Liddie/ Lydia Knabb ( I have seen her grave at Schwartzwald Church Cemetery. She is the daughter of Michael and Eva Magdalena Seltzer. Lydia was born 8/24/1803 and she Married Jacob Grant 12/12/1824. I have never been able to find out where Lydia and Jacob were married or where they were born or Baptized. Also my Jacob Grants parents I believe were John and Maria Grant but I have never been able to find any proof. Any information on Lydia Knab and Jacob Grant would be so appreciated. Thank you, Sally -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PABERKS] KNABB, SNYDER I'd like to make sure I have the correct information on Sarah KNABB (dau of Michael KNABB and E. Magdalena SELTZER). Corrections (with sources!) welcomed. >From a post (on this list, I believe) several years ago of the descendants of Nicholas Knabb, there is a Sarah S. KNABB, b. 28 July 1764, d. 25 Jan 1849. No marriage listed. Diana's recent post noted that Sarah Elizabeth KNABB m. as his second wife Daniel SNYDER. In _A Genealogical Guide to Berks county Private Cemeteries_ in the Snyder Cemetery in Oley Twp. is noted the burial of Sarah SNYDER, d. 29 Jan 1849, aged 84-5-27. This age at death calculates to a birth date of 2 Aug 1764. Given different ways of calculating dates and/or errors in reading tombstones as well as the names of the SNYDER children buried near her (Catherine and Ester, names of two of Sarah's KNABB seven siblings, it looks as if this is the Sarah SNYDER above. My German genes would just like to resolve the difference in dates/names. Thanks for any help! Judy Castle Stubbs ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== [email protected] To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, [email protected] To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd like to make sure I have the correct information on Sarah KNABB (dau of Michael KNABB and E. Magdalena SELTZER). Corrections (with sources!) welcomed. >From a post (on this list, I believe) several years ago of the descendants of Nicholas Knabb, there is a Sarah S. KNABB, b. 28 July 1764, d. 25 Jan 1849. No marriage listed. Diana's recent post noted that Sarah Elizabeth KNABB m. as his second wife Daniel SNYDER. In _A Genealogical Guide to Berks county Private Cemeteries_ in the Snyder Cemetery in Oley Twp. is noted the burial of Sarah SNYDER, d. 29 Jan 1849, aged 84-5-27. This age at death calculates to a birth date of 2 Aug 1764. Given different ways of calculating dates and/or errors in reading tombstones as well as the names of the SNYDER children buried near her (Catherine and Ester, names of two of Sarah's KNABB seven siblings, it looks as if this is the Sarah SNYDER above. My German genes would just like to resolve the difference in dates/names. Thanks for any help! Judy Castle Stubbs

you may be looking for The BAUSCHER FAMILY, I have this name in my line, and volunteered at The LDS Family Center and borrowed this book (disk?) from LDS I beleive the aurthor was Frederick Bur______. A man came to our center in Milledgeville, Ga from Florida to check this out.. Janice ________________________________ From: Robert Goode <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 10:19:12 AM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 96 My Umbenauers/Umbenhowers also were in Tulpehocken and (my branch) moved on to Pine Grove. Here is a segment from the Boeshore (Beshore) Family History that might provide a clue for you: "One Jaques Milne Le Baisseur, a French Huguenot, fled from his home in Guyenne (an area and former province in southwest France) to England about 1610. This was after the horrible massacre of St. Bartholomew which started in Paris in 1572, and which caused intense persecutions of all the French Protestants. In 1614, he was enrolled as a member of the French Huguenot Church in Norwich, England. From here, about a century later, some of the descendants of Jacques, in 1708, left for New York State, arriving in Schoharie Valley, along the Hudson River. This was the period when Queen Anne of England encouraged the French Huguenots and Palatines to go to New York State instead of to Pennsylvania. Her plan was to populate the Hudson Valley so as to provide a better defense against the marauding French and Indians, in what is know as Queen Anne's French and Indian War. This war was really an extension of the War of the Spanish Succession then going on in Europe(Stapleton). About the same time this Boeshore family met with Conrad Weiser and other Palatines and Huguenots in New York State in 1720 and joined the Scholorie immigration to the Tulpehocken country of Berks county in Pennsylvania. This route followed from Lake Oswego in New York State, thence down the Susquehanna river to the mouth of the Swatara and thence up the Swatara to the Tulpehocken section. One of the Boeshores who was active in this group was Mathias Basehore, born about 1700. The historian, Rupp, to whom we are indebted for much of our information on the Palatine and Huguenot immigrants, is descended from this Mathias Basehore. Rupp later became a famous Indian fighter in the following French and Indian Wars. " Good luck! Bob Goode >> From: elizabeth <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 10:54:12 PM >> Subject: [PABERKS] where did early settlers in Tolpehoken come from? >> >> Hi, >> >> Can anyone tell me where I might go next in my efforts to trace an >> ancestor >> who had children born/baptized as early as 1785 in the Altalaha Lutheran >> Church, Rehrersburg, Tulpehocken Township, Berks County, PA? Where would >> the >> people have come from prior to 1785? >> >> Mathis WOLF/WOLFF was b. 1755 or earlier, based on data from 1800 census. >> He >> was in Bethel Twp, Berks Co, PA in that census as well as the 1790 >> census, >> and from there went to Pine Grove, Schuylkill Co, PA about 1798. I assume >> he >> died there before 1810 because there is no trace of him in that census, >> although a burial record has not been found. >> >> I think I have already found as much information as available while he >> was >> in those areas. I have been to the Berks Co Historical Society and the >> Bethel Twp library and the Pine Grove Historical Society. There wasn't >> much >> so I doubt that there is anything else there that I missed. >> >> What I want to do now is find out where he was before Rehrersburg, >> Tulpehocken Township, Berks County, PA. >> >> ANY suggestions are appreciated!! >> >> Are there any online records in Germantown, PA, which is one place >> someone >> had suggested a while ago? Is it difficult to do research there in >> person? >> Where would the best place to go be located? >> >> Where else did those people in Tolpehoken come from? >> >> Thank you, >> Elizabeth ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== [email protected] To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, [email protected] To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message