hi jane. ebert angeline, died 12/20 /1862, age 12 frank a. died 4/2/1892 age 21 franklin dewey died 8/25/1898 age 3m hannah (van horn) 5/4/1895, age 86y 3m 1d son august, son thomas died in battle of gettysburg, husband heinrich, deceased, 1st german settler of mauch chunk brother, nathan van horn henry,died 1/4/1890, age 63 eberts elizabeth died 5/27/1854 age 52 ebertz gertrude,,10/9/1896, age 1. father anthony, mother, alice april 7,1820, last thurs. john ebert married sophia hauser, d/o martin amrosious remali to elizabeth barbara ebert george schader of berks to lucinda ebert, of berks, oct 26, 1834 mary ann, d/o adam ebert, june 7, 1845. sp. susan zimmerman william simon , s/o samuel ebert and wf hannah, march 8, 1837. sp _ emila caroline, d/o peter ebert and eliz., oct 15, 1832. sp john and eliz. siegfried northampton co. eberet-eberit 24 jan 1812, estate of jacob everit, chestnut hill twp (money overpaid from jacob and henry eberet) exec. john eberit ebert (evert) eberts, 23 a ug, 1811, estate of andrew gittner, heidelberg twp. (note written in margin, states that this name was also gillner or gutner,) widow, maria, children; andrew e.s., susanna, w/o peter eberts, barbara, elisabeth , salome, maria, john, jacob, christine, abraham, all under21 25 jan 1811, estate of george eberts, plainfield twp. (died about 2 years ago) widow magdalena, children; catharine, w/o jacob bender, jacob, rosina, w/o george bender, george, john, susanna, w/o ludwig sponheimer, peter, philip, sarah, under 21 15 aug 1796, estate of tobias ebert, heidelberg twp. (died about 4 years ago) widow margaret, children; tobias, e.s., henry, michael margaret, w/o john weber, magdalena, w/o martin wuchter, john, catharine, w/o john rauch st. peter's cem. freeman, william, 5 april 1753-april 1800 wf margaret. children; hannah w/o john george eberts, isaac, rebecca w/o peter hahn, elisabeth, sarah, anna, jacob, maria, rachel, eve. jerusalem grave yard maritz, john, 15 april 1750, died 29 june 1847, helena catharina nee ebert, 16 march 1766, died 29 jan 1862 lehigh co. ebert anna rosina ebert, nee junkman, 1751-1803, born in bethlehem, she married christian ebert who died 1799 john christian ebert, 1749-1799, born at ottehayn, silesia, he was in old country a forester and here at bethlehem, a landlord for sun inn. he married a.r. junkman sp.-am. war ebert, horace m. 1st lt. co. m. 4th regt. resident of pottstown ebert, william d. pvt. co. a. 6th regt. a resident of pottstown ebert. rinholt, pvt. regt. band, 9th regt. a resident of wilkes-barra ebert. alfred, w. pvt. co. d. 12 regt. a resident of williamsport war of 1812 ebert, christian, soldier died 22 sept 1871, srv. n.c. lived in moniteau. mo. and sacramento, ca. rev. war vets-burials ebert, george, manheim twp. pa. rev. war-pensions ebert, henry, blw, srv hazen's regt Best Wishes, Geri -----Original Message----- From: JLGreenRN@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:33 AM To: PABERKS-D@rootsweb.com Subject: [PABERKS] Geri Geri, what do you have on the Ebert family? Thanks. Jane Green **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Geri, what do you have on the Ebert family? Thanks. Jane Green **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: omasue175 Surnames: Braun Brown Faust Strauch Mertz Niederauer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9861/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to sort out the descendents of Johan Peter Braun born 1702 in Germany who immigrated in 1753 with his brother Johan Engle Braun and son Frederick born 1739. I am a direct descendent from Frederick. I have learned recently that Frederick was married first to Eva Mertz b. Abt 1742 in PA, d/o Nicholas Mertz. Frederick was married second to Anna Louisa Strauch Foust, widow of Adam Foust who died at Valley Forge in 1778. I am trying to determine which woman was the mother of Elizabeth Braun and Susanna Braun daughters of Frederick. Louisa was the mother of Frederick, jr. born 1783 and Benjamin born 1787. She would have been a bit too old to have any further children, having had quite a brood with Adam before marrying Frederick--who, by the way, was the father of her son, Adam's (1760) wife, Catherine. Catherine, John, Peter and Michael all appear to be children of Eva Mertz and Frederick--born before Adam Foust died. I do not have any reliable dobs for Susanna! or Elizabeth or spouses. It is reported in histories that one of Catherine Braun's sisters married her husband's brother--that would be Susanna as she is mentioned in connection with Johannes Faust, brother to Adam. Elizabeth, I believe was married to Jacob Niederauer (family became Nedrow). Michael Braun born about 1772 in linked with another Michael Braun of about the same age from a different family, in fact he is listed usually as a son of Michale and Christina with a wife Catherine Scherry. Another links him to a Hanna Knorr, but I can prove neither. If anyone has anything definitive or any bits and pieces on this family, please respond..Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sally is the nickname for Sarah. paberks-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 2. Re: Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 3. ADMIN NOTE Replies to Board Messages (Richard Berkheiser) > 4. Re: Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 5. Re: Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:15:14 -0000 >From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) >To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <1204064115.497567@rootsweb.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: DreisbachFalconer >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Thank you both for replying. So I now have parents for Katarina DeTurk, but I would love to find if there is a connection between Katarina and Isaac. Logic says there should be - but chance is always operative as well. However Isaac DeTurk must have had a reason to come specifically to the Oley Valley and it must have involved Huguenots that he was acquainted with. The Keims would be one such family. Possibly Katarina even was in the area first. > >I suspect that any answers may lie in the archives in Europe somewhere. > >Marcia > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:34:59 -0600 (CST) >From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) >To: PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <19425400.433361204065299544.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Descendants of Johannes De Turk > > 1 Johannes De Turk 1650 - >.. +Hester Kip 1656 - 1727 >......... 2 John Pieter De Turk 1670/71 - >......... 2 Jacomina De Turk 1677 - >......... 2 Sarah De Turk 1679/80 - >......... 2 Rachel De Turk 1681 - >......... 2 Maria Elisabeth De Turk 1683/84 - >......... 2 Isaac DeTurck 1685 - 1727 >............. +Anna Maria De Harcourt 1672 - >.................... 3 Esther De Turk 1711 - 1798 >........................ +Abraham Bertholet 1712 - 1776 >............................... 4 Maria DeTurk Bertolet 1736 - >............................... 4 Daniel DeTurk Bertolet 1741 - 1797 >................................... +Maria Yoder 1748/49 - 1825 >............................... 4 [2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - >................................... +[1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 >............................... 4 Samuel DeTurk Bertolet 1743 - >............................... 4 Esther DeTurk Bertolet 1746 - >............................... 4 John DeTurk Bertolet 1750 - >.................... 3 John De Turk 1713 - 1781 >........................ +Deborah Hoch/High 1721 - >............................... 4 [1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 >................................... +[2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - >.................... 3 Catherine De Turk >........................ +Abraham Levan >......... 2 Esther Cornelia De Turk 1687 - 1687 >......... 2 Katharina/Bertha De Turk 1688 - 1730 >............. +Johannes Keim 1675 - 1753 >.................... 3 Katarina Keim 1708 - 1793 >........................ +John Henry Schneider >.................... 3 Johannes Keim 1711 - 1762 >........................ +Catherine Stump >............................... 4 Johnannes Keim 1732 - >............................... 4 John Peter Keim 1745 - 1829 >................................... +Susanna Eis 1746 - >............................... *2nd Wife of John Peter Keim: >................................... +Veronica "Fanny " Stutzman 1770 - 1805 >............................... *3rd Wife of John Peter Keim: >................................... +Mary >.................... 3 Stephen Keim 1717 - >........................ +Uliana >.................... 3 Nicholas Keim 1719 - 1802 >........................ +Barbara Schneider 1727 - 1788 >............................... 4 Catherine Keim 1746/47 - 1773 >................................... +Daniel Messersmith >............................... 4 John Keim 1749 - 1819 >................................... +Susanna de Benneville 1748 - 1837 >............................... 4 Susanna Keim 1753 - >................................... +John Bishop >.................... 3 Elizabeth Keim 1722/23 - 1764 >........................ +Christian Hoffert/Hoffarth 1716 - 1788 >.................... 3 Jacob Keim 1724 - 1799 >........................ +Magdalena Hoch 1730 - 1804 >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: DreisbachFalconer >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Thank you both for replying. So I now have parents for Katarina DeTurk, but I would love to find if there is a connection between Katarina and Isaac. Logic says there should be - but chance is always operative as well. However Isaac DeTurk must have had a reason to come specifically to the Oley Valley and it must have involved Huguenots that he was acquainted with. The Keims would be one such family. Possibly Katarina even was in the area first. > >I suspect that any answers may lie in the archives in Europe somewhere. > >Marcia > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > >To contact the List Administrator: >Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > >To visit the Berks Message Board: >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > >To visit the Berks County, PA website: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ >Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >Doraine Dorman, Ph.D. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:08:58 -0500 >From: "Richard Berkheiser" <reberkheiser@earthlink.net> >Subject: [PABERKS] ADMIN NOTE Replies to Board Messages >To: <PABERKS@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <019901c878cc$9379e580$6f4afc04@workstation0> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi everyone! > >Just a reminder about gatewayed messages from the Berks Message Board. These messages come to the list with this disclaimer at the top. > >"This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list." > >Which means that postings to the Message Board are copied to this list. > >When responding to gatewayed or copied messages, you'll need to use the blue link provided in the body of the message to respond to the poster. In other words, you need to respond from the Board side. > >If you send the reply back to the list only, the board poster might not see your reply if he/she is not subscribed to the list. Now with the gc-gateway@rootsweb.com address showing, you really need to go the Message Board to post your reply. You'll need to register a username and password before you can post to the Message Board. This is still a free service but the registration is to help discourage spammers on the board. > >Also sometimes you can find the user's e-mail address on the Message Board by clicking on the highlighted in blue username in the top left corner of the posting. > >Hope this helps! > >Rick B >List Administrator > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:01:14 -0000 >From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) >To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <1204070474.128127@rootsweb.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: audianaq41 >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >You are right that the answer lies in Europe, probably in Frankenthal! In the DeTurk genealogy book, pages 14-15, the author lists the 6 children baptized of Johannes DeTurk and Hester Kip, and does not show Katarina. The baptisms were found in the register of the Refugee Congregation there in Frankenthal. The youngest listed is Esther Cornelia DeTurk, 8/17/1687. Assumptions have been made that Katarina was born after this date to them, but if that is true, then I would think the record for her would have been included in the list of the other 6 children baptised at the Netherland Reformed Church in the Palatinate, aka Huguenot Refugee Congregation at Frankenthal for Johannes and Hester. I am not persuaded by the trees on WorldConnect that she is Isaac's sister. But then, I like the hard evidence! > >Somewhere I saw where Isaac came to NY on the Globe with his sister Esther, but her name is not on the list of passengers of that first ship with Rev. Kocherthal's party, so I doubt that is true. He was shown as bachelor then, and name was shown as Isaac Turk/Turck, and he married the widow Wimer/Wemar, who was on the ship with her daughter Catharina age 2, in Fall of 1709 in Esopus NY, according to the DeTurk book. Daughter Esther was baptized in NYC at the French Reformed Congregation on 4/29/1711. So they were on their way to PA by then, per the DeTurk book. >By 3/11/1712, warrant was issued to Isaac for 300 acres in Oley, Phila Co. Patented on 7/28/1712 for 30 pounds. > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:19:55 -0000 >From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) >To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <1204071596.133124@rootsweb.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: DreisbachFalconer >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Yes, I'd read about Isaac's sister accompanying him and also searched the passenger list finding just Isaac's name. I agree, hard evidence is required - but it can be fun to speculate, as long as it doesn't become 'fact'. > >In other branches of my family, there are a few women who have several names although we are absolutely certain they are one and the same person. In one instance a woman is always referred to as Sally, but the baptismal records show her as Sarah. Usually the names are similar or else the name is written so poorly that it was transcribed incorrectly. This could be the case with Katarina. There are two siblings of Isaac's that might have been very poorly transcribed: Jacomina b. 1677 and Esther Cornelia b.1687. Although I have absolutely no evidence, neither have I seen the handwritten documents. "Cornelia" just possibly may be Katarina (similarity in sound, possibility of poor copying). OR - perhaps more likely, Katarina could be Isaac's cousin or some other DeTurk relative that he is acquainted with. >Ah well ... the search goes on. > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the PABERKS list administrator, send an email to >PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the PABERKS mailing list, send an email to PABERKS@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of PABERKS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 94 >************************************** > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarkleVon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are correct that there was a reason that Isaac settled in Oley, and you are correct that it had to do with the Huguenots. Good guessing. The answer is that he wives of Johannes Keim, Isaac DeTurk, and Jean Bertolet were all sisters, being the daughters of Jean De Hericourt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

. The reason that Isaac DeTurk came to Oley is the fact that his wife, the wife of Johannes Keim, and the wife of Jean Bertolet were all sisters, being the daughters of Jean De Haricourt.? As for the two wives of Johannes Keim, (De Haricourt-De Turk), I do not know which is the first wife.?? Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) Descendants of Johannes De Turk 1 Johannes De Turk 1650 - .. +Hester Kip 1656 - 1727 ......... 2 John Pieter De Turk 1670/71 - ......... 2 Jacomina De Turk 1677 - ......... 2 Sarah De Turk 1679/80 - ......... 2 Rachel De Turk 1681 - ......... 2 Maria Elisabeth De Turk 1683/84 - ......... 2 Isaac DeTurck 1685 - 1727 ............. +Anna Maria De Harcourt 1672 - .................... 3 Esther De Turk 1711 - 1798 ........................ +Abraham Bertholet 1712 - 1776 ............................... 4 Maria DeTurk Bertolet 1736 - ............................... 4 Daniel DeTurk Bertolet 1741 - 1797 ................................... +Maria Yoder 1748/49 - 1825 ............................... 4 [2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - ................................... +[1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 ............................... 4 Samuel DeTurk Bertolet 1743 - ............................... 4 Esther DeTurk Bertolet 1746 - ............................... 4 John DeTurk Bertolet 1750 - .................... 3 John De Turk 1713 - 1781 ........................ +Deborah Hoch/High 1721 - ............................... 4 [1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 ................................... +[2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - .................... 3 Catherine De Turk ........................ +Abraham Levan ......... 2 Esther Cornelia De Turk 1687 - 1687 ......... 2 Katharina/Bertha De Turk 1688 - 1730 ............. +Johannes Keim 1675 - 1753 .................... 3 Katarina Keim 1708 - 1793 ........................ +John Henry Schneider .................... 3 Johannes Keim 1711 - 1762 ........................ +Catherine Stump ............................... 4 Johnannes Keim 1732 - ............................... 4 John Peter Keim 1745 - 1829 ................................... +Susanna Eis 1746 - ............................... *2nd Wife of John Peter Keim: ................................... +Veronica "Fanny " Stutzman 1770 - 1805 ............................... *3rd Wife of John Peter Keim: ................................... +Mary .................... 3 Stephen Keim 1717 - ........................ +Uliana .................... 3 Nicholas Keim 1719 - 1802 ........................ +Barbara Schneider 1727 - 1788 ............................... 4 Catherine Keim 1746/47 - 1773 ................................... +Daniel Messersmith ............................... 4 John Keim 1749 - 1819 ................................... +Susanna de Benneville 1748 - 1837 ............................... 4 Susanna Keim 1753 - ................................... +John Bishop .................... 3 Elizabeth Keim 1722/23 - 1764 ........................ +Christian Hoffert/Hoffarth 1716 - 1788 .................... 3 Jacob Keim 1724 - 1799 ........................ +Magdalena Hoch 1730 - 1804 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both for replying. So I now have parents for Katarina DeTurk, but I would love to find if there is a connection between Katarina and Isaac. Logic says there should be - but chance is always operative as well. However Isaac DeTurk must have had a reason to come specifically to the Oley Valley and it must have involved Huguenots that he was acquainted with. The Keims would be one such family. Possibly Katarina even was in the area first. I suspect that any answers may lie in the archives in Europe somewhere. Marcia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I'd read about Isaac's sister accompanying him and also searched the passenger list finding just Isaac's name. I agree, hard evidence is required - but it can be fun to speculate, as long as it doesn't become 'fact'. In other branches of my family, there are a few women who have several names although we are absolutely certain they are one and the same person. In one instance a woman is always referred to as Sally, but the baptismal records show her as Sarah. Usually the names are similar or else the name is written so poorly that it was transcribed incorrectly. This could be the case with Katarina. There are two siblings of Isaac's that might have been very poorly transcribed: Jacomina b. 1677 and Esther Cornelia b.1687. Although I have absolutely no evidence, neither have I seen the handwritten documents. "Cornelia" just possibly may be Katarina (similarity in sound, possibility of poor copying). OR - perhaps more likely, Katarina could be Isaac's cousin or some other DeTurk relative that he is acquainted with. Ah well ... the search goes on. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are right that the answer lies in Europe, probably in Frankenthal! In the DeTurk genealogy book, pages 14-15, the author lists the 6 children baptized of Johannes DeTurk and Hester Kip, and does not show Katarina. The baptisms were found in the register of the Refugee Congregation there in Frankenthal. The youngest listed is Esther Cornelia DeTurk, 8/17/1687. Assumptions have been made that Katarina was born after this date to them, but if that is true, then I would think the record for her would have been included in the list of the other 6 children baptised at the Netherland Reformed Church in the Palatinate, aka Huguenot Refugee Congregation at Frankenthal for Johannes and Hester. I am not persuaded by the trees on WorldConnect that she is Isaac's sister. But then, I like the hard evidence! Somewhere I saw where Isaac came to NY on the Globe with his sister Esther, but her name is not on the list of passengers of that first ship with Rev. Kocherthal's party, so I doubt that is true. He was shown as bachelor then, and name was shown as Isaac Turk/Turck, and he married the widow Wimer/Wemar, who was on the ship with her daughter Catharina age 2, in Fall of 1709 in Esopus NY, according to the DeTurk book. Daughter Esther was baptized in NYC at the French Reformed Congregation on 4/29/1711. So they were on their way to PA by then, per the DeTurk book. By 3/11/1712, warrant was issued to Isaac for 300 acres in Oley, Phila Co. Patented on 7/28/1712 for 30 pounds. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both for replying. So I now have parents for Katarina DeTurk, but I would love to find if there is a connection between Katarina and Isaac. Logic says there should be - but chance is always operative as well. However Isaac DeTurk must have had a reason to come specifically to the Oley Valley and it must have involved Huguenots that he was acquainted with. The Keims would be one such family. Possibly Katarina even was in the area first. I suspect that any answers may lie in the archives in Europe somewhere. Marcia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: DeTURK, KEIM, BERTOLET, YODER, KERST, GELBACH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to an article in the Reading Eagle 6/26/2007: "Johannes Keim came to America in the fall of 1698 from Speyer (I have also seen it spelled Speier), the Palatinate, an area that today is in southwestern Germany. He found a large grove of walnut trees in Oley Township, which was then part of Philadelphia County, and decided to settle there. Keim went back to the Palatinate in 1701 and married 'Bertha' deTurck. The two returned to America in 1707. Their first child was born in 1708. (I show Katarina born 9/29/1708) The Keim Homestead was built by Johannes' son Jacob in 1753 - it has sat along a quiet stretch of Boyer Road in Oley Township for more than 250 years. Its owner, The Historic Preservation Trust of Berks County, who acquired the homestead in 1978. The Trust is pushing for the federal government to designate the Keim Homestead a national historic landmark. Johannes Keim was the first settler to stake out a claim in the Oley Valley, according to the trust." Now I have that he married Katarina DeTurk, in 1706, 14 days before St Michael's Day which I think was in Sept. I don't know where the Bertha firstname came from in the article. In Oley Valley Heritage: The Colonial Years, by Philip Pendleton, p 177: Johannes KEIM or John KIME/KYME, was shown as early as 1719 in Oley. There is nothing in the DeTurk Genealogy book, pub in 1934, by Eugene P DeTurk, which establishes any relationship of Katarina(Bertha) DeTurk to Isaac who 'was' in the camps in NY before he made his way down to PA. She is not even mentioned at all in the DeTurk genealogy. Later KEIMs are. I would be interested if anyone knows more about this Bertha or Katarina DeTurk and her family, too! Isaac is one of my early ancestors. He was born in Frankenthal c Jan1684/5 per DeTurk genealogy. And he and Katarina were living in abt the same era. Not sure where Frankenthal is in relation to Speir. His daughter Esther DeTurk m Abraham BERTOLET and are my line. Their son Daniel D BERTOLET m Maria YODER and their dau Esther Yoder BERTOLET m Jacob KERST, my gr3, son of George KERST and Elizabeth GELBACH. Diana in AL audianaq@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jlutz9927 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: www.rootsweb.com go to worldconnect and put Katarina DeTurk in the boxes and she is there with parents and husband. Hope this helps. Joan in FL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Descendants of Johannes De Turk 1 Johannes De Turk 1650 - .. +Hester Kip 1656 - 1727 ......... 2 John Pieter De Turk 1670/71 - ......... 2 Jacomina De Turk 1677 - ......... 2 Sarah De Turk 1679/80 - ......... 2 Rachel De Turk 1681 - ......... 2 Maria Elisabeth De Turk 1683/84 - ......... 2 Isaac DeTurck 1685 - 1727 ............. +Anna Maria De Harcourt 1672 - .................... 3 Esther De Turk 1711 - 1798 ........................ +Abraham Bertholet 1712 - 1776 ............................... 4 Maria DeTurk Bertolet 1736 - ............................... 4 Daniel DeTurk Bertolet 1741 - 1797 ................................... +Maria Yoder 1748/49 - 1825 ............................... 4 [2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - ................................... +[1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 ............................... 4 Samuel DeTurk Bertolet 1743 - ............................... 4 Esther DeTurk Bertolet 1746 - ............................... 4 John DeTurk Bertolet 1750 - .................... 3 John De Turk 1713 - 1781 ........................ +Deborah Hoch/High 1721 - ............................... 4 [1] Johannes De Turk 1746/47 - 1808 ................................... +[2] Elizabeth DeTurk Bertolet 1742 - .................... 3 Catherine De Turk ........................ +Abraham Levan ......... 2 Esther Cornelia De Turk 1687 - 1687 ......... 2 Katharina/Bertha De Turk 1688 - 1730 ............. +Johannes Keim 1675 - 1753 .................... 3 Katarina Keim 1708 - 1793 ........................ +John Henry Schneider .................... 3 Johannes Keim 1711 - 1762 ........................ +Catherine Stump ............................... 4 Johnannes Keim 1732 - ............................... 4 John Peter Keim 1745 - 1829 ................................... +Susanna Eis 1746 - ............................... *2nd Wife of John Peter Keim: ................................... +Veronica "Fanny " Stutzman 1770 - 1805 ............................... *3rd Wife of John Peter Keim: ................................... +Mary .................... 3 Stephen Keim 1717 - ........................ +Uliana .................... 3 Nicholas Keim 1719 - 1802 ........................ +Barbara Schneider 1727 - 1788 ............................... 4 Catherine Keim 1746/47 - 1773 ................................... +Daniel Messersmith ............................... 4 John Keim 1749 - 1819 ................................... +Susanna de Benneville 1748 - 1837 ............................... 4 Susanna Keim 1753 - ................................... +John Bishop .................... 3 Elizabeth Keim 1722/23 - 1764 ........................ +Christian Hoffert/Hoffarth 1716 - 1788 .................... 3 Jacob Keim 1724 - 1799 ........................ +Magdalena Hoch 1730 - 1804 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both for replying. So I now have parents for Katarina DeTurk, but I would love to find if there is a connection between Katarina and Isaac. Logic says there should be - but chance is always operative as well. However Isaac DeTurk must have had a reason to come specifically to the Oley Valley and it must have involved Huguenots that he was acquainted with. The Keims would be one such family. Possibly Katarina even was in the area first. I suspect that any answers may lie in the archives in Europe somewhere. Marcia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Doraine Dorman, Ph.D.

Try looking at _www.rootsweb.com_ (http://www.rootsweb.com) go to the worldconnect and put her name in the slots. The information is there. Hope this helps Joan in FL In a message dated 2/25/2008 5:11:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: DeTurk, Keim Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties .berks/9860/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Katarina DeTurk (b.abt 1688,probably in France, d. 1731 in Oley Township) married Johannes Keim (b. 1675 d. 1753) a Huguenot and a very early immigrant to the Oley Valley. P.C. Croll,in "Annals of the Oley Valley" wrote fairly much about Johannes Keim, but I know very little about his wife, Katarina. Does anyone have information about Katarina DeTurk Keim, where she was born, who her parents were, when did she come to Pennsylvania and by what route (directly to Philadelphia or via a Huguenot colony in New York), etc. etc. Thanks, Marcia Falconer Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.stat es.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Katarina was the supposed brother to Isaac DeTurck and arrived in the Oley via via NY (via London, via Germany, via France). Arrived in Oley around 1711 from NY. On Feb 26, 2008, at 10:53 AM, JLutz54950@aol.com wrote: > Try looking at _www.rootsweb.com_ (http://www.rootsweb.com) go to > the > worldconnect and put her name in the slots. The information is > there. Hope this > helps Joan in FL > > > > In a message dated 2/25/2008 5:11:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gc-gateway@rootsweb.com writes: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: DreisbachFalconer > Surnames: DeTurk, Keim > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties > .berks/9860/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Katarina DeTurk (b.abt 1688,probably in France, d. 1731 in Oley > Township) > married Johannes Keim (b. 1675 d. 1753) a Huguenot and a very early > immigrant > to the Oley Valley. > > P.C. Croll,in "Annals of the Oley Valley" wrote fairly much about > Johannes > Keim, but I know very little about his wife, Katarina. > > Does anyone have information about Katarina DeTurk Keim, where she > was born, > who her parents were, when did she come to Pennsylvania and by what > route > (directly to Philadelphia or via a Huguenot colony in New York), > etc. etc. > > Thanks, > Marcia Falconer > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If > you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and > respond on the board. > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.stat > es.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paberks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message Kristen Frederick www.amoeba.com Amoeba Music (323) 245-6400 ext. 101 Store Line kristenfrederick@earthlink.net

I'm afraid I do not have any information to help I only have their entries in my tree because they are the parents of Jacob Keim who married Magdalena Hoch which ties into my line. I have no other children listed for them and none for Jacob and Magdalena so if you have any details to round out the tree it would be wonderful. (I did not even have the birth and death dates.) Do you know where they are buried as I am planning a grave yard trip to PA in Sept? Good luck in your search. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: DreisbachFalconer > Surnames: DeTurk, Keim > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Katarina DeTurk (b.abt 1688,probably in France, d. 1731 in Oley Township) > married Johannes Keim (b. 1675 d. 1753) a Huguenot and a very early > immigrant to the Oley Valley. > > P.C. Croll,in "Annals of the Oley Valley" wrote fairly much about Johannes > Keim, but I know very little about his wife, Katarina. > > Does anyone have information about Katarina DeTurk Keim, where she was > born, who her parents were, when did she come to Pennsylvania and by what > route (directly to Philadelphia or via a Huguenot colony in New York), > etc. etc. > > Thanks, > Marcia Falconer > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > >

I'm afraid I do not have any information to help I only have their entries in my tree because they are the parents of Jacob Keim who married Magdalena Hoch which ties into my line. I have no other children listed for them and none for Jacob and Magdalena so if you have any details to round out the tree it would be wonderful. (I did not even have the birth and death dates.) Do you know where they are buried as I am planning a grave yard trip to PA in Sept? Good luck in your search. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [PABERKS] Katarina DeTurk (abt 1688 - 1731) > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: DreisbachFalconer > Surnames: DeTurk, Keim > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Katarina DeTurk (b.abt 1688,probably in France, d. 1731 in Oley Township) > married Johannes Keim (b. 1675 d. 1753) a Huguenot and a very early > immigrant to the Oley Valley. > > P.C. Croll,in "Annals of the Oley Valley" wrote fairly much about Johannes > Keim, but I know very little about his wife, Katarina. > > Does anyone have information about Katarina DeTurk Keim, where she was > born, who her parents were, when did she come to Pennsylvania and by what > route (directly to Philadelphia or via a Huguenot colony in New York), > etc. etc. > > Thanks, > Marcia Falconer > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > >

Greetings. I am new to the list and am posting here what I have recently tried on the PALANCAS mailing list. At best it states a discussion on naming practices, spelling variant etc. I have been trying to locate the parents of Johannes Hage & Catherine Frey. A "cousin" did some research back over 10 years ago and donated it to the York Co Historical Trust. In it she give the marriage of this couple as ; Johannes Hage son of Conrad Hag(e) married Catherine Frey daughter of "Late" John Frey on Aug 7, 1781 in East Cocalico Twp. Lancaster Co., PA . No one is able to locate this record. Is it possible its in Berks Co.? I believe I may have found Catherine Frey in Muddy Creek in 1777 in the record below. The record states she is 17 yrs old. Catherine's head stone has her birth day as Aug. 10, 1760. We share the same birthday 200 years apart. PASTORAL ACTS AT THE LUTHERAN & REFORMED CONGREGATION OF THE MUDDY CREEK CHRUCH EAST COCALICO TWP., LANCASTER CO.,PA 1730-1790 R929.37481 R311 v.5 p.118 Johannes Rupp & Margaretha Frey m. in Muddy Creek 20 May 1750 p.207 confirmed in the year 1777: CATHERINE FREY 17yrs Anna Maria Rub (Rupp) 15yrs Michael, Elizabeth, Peter and Catherine Frey were communicants @ St Luke's in 1801 along side with of John & Catherine (Frey) Hage in Chanceford Twp York Co. Also Peter Frey was listed as the administrator to Catherine's Hage/ Hake's estate when she died a widow . I am assuming Peter & Michael are family somehow. John Hage first appears when he purchased land in York Co in 1787 According to the deed registered in York Co. Johann Hage purchased 263 Acres and 120 perchs from John Gohn in 1787. The patent was granted in 1810 for $ 206.5.7 The first record of the family in Church records for this area is 1788 for the birth of son William Hoeck. They had Samuel, Maria Catherina, Frederick & John prior to this according to John Hake's' Will but I have not been able to locate their records. After William came Susanna, Conrad, Benjamin, Elizabeth and Jacob. HAKE, John. Chanceford Township. February 24, 1811 September 26, 1811 Executors: Martin Armstrong and Samuel Hake. Wife: Catharine Hake. Children: Samuel, John, William, Frederick, Conrad, Benjamin, Elizabeth, and Jacob. With John's father being Conrad and its not until his fifth child does he name on after him, he does not follow the German naming custom. His daughter Maria (Heck/Hake) Illges died after childbirth in 1808. Daughter Susanna born 1792 is unaccounted for. His headstone which is in old German spells his name as Hoeck and gives his age at death as 56 jahr That makes his birth year about 1755. * Spelling as Heck on Catherines stone a few of her children are their as Heck and the other have as Hake. But from that time on it has been Hake. There are researchers who have Johannes as the son of Conrad Hage born 1747 who married Marie Clapp in NC. Simply not possible. Unless this Conrad Hage sired him when he as 10-11 yrs old. On Ancestry I have found a Conrad married to Elizabeth Bauman , Conrad Hawk to Sarah Williams and In Strasburg, Lancaster Co. a Conrad Hoke who married Barbara Schenk when they were about 56 years old. So who was his first wife? I also located a Conrad Hage who arrive in Phila in 1755 on ship Friendship. It is possible that he is Johannes father. Would wife and children been listed in the ships records? It might explain why I can't locate a birth or baptism record. Shoot even a will would be nice. In 10 years I have not been able to prove any of these. Any lookups or suggestions are welcome. Melissa **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DreisbachFalconer Surnames: DeTurk, Keim Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9860/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Katarina DeTurk (b.abt 1688,probably in France, d. 1731 in Oley Township) married Johannes Keim (b. 1675 d. 1753) a Huguenot and a very early immigrant to the Oley Valley. P.C. Croll,in "Annals of the Oley Valley" wrote fairly much about Johannes Keim, but I know very little about his wife, Katarina. Does anyone have information about Katarina DeTurk Keim, where she was born, who her parents were, when did she come to Pennsylvania and by what route (directly to Philadelphia or via a Huguenot colony in New York), etc. etc. Thanks, Marcia Falconer Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rdelange Surnames: Kramer, Goodman, Gutman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9859/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Son of Johan George and Anna Sophia Gutman, had siblings, John George, Johan Wilhelm, Andreas, Catherine Margaret, Daniel, Sophia, Catherine Elizabeth and Michael. Any help with family appreciated. ralphdlange@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.