Who on this list is searching the TRUBY surname? Please contact me privately. Irene Crawford JTJTJ5@aol.com

Lula was born 27 Aug 1885 in Armstrong Co. She died 1 Jul 1939 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, PA. Her first marriage was in Pittsburgh on 14 Sep 1910 to Burdette MEAD [Alexander Burdette Meade? - probably]. They had the following children: Goldie [md a ---LEWIS], Helen [md a --- BROWN], and Emma [md a --- BODEN]. I'm speculating that Emma was born 18 May 1912 and died 23 Jul 1990, and that Helen was born 25 Jan 1914 and died 17 Apr 1992. The speculation is based upon Social Securtiy Death Index entries. Lula's first husband appears to have deceased or a divorce occurred sometime before 1934. Sometime after 1934 - specific date is not known - she became the wife of Isreal COLES. According to funeral home records, she is buried alongside Isreal in an unmarked grave. She was buried 3 Jul 1939 in Mt. Royal Cemetery in Glenshaw, Allegheny, PA. Her death certificate lists her as Lula COLE(S), and the cause of death was chronic myocarditis. Her obituary is listed in the "Pittsburgh Post Gazette" on 3 Jul 1939. It references her daughters - Mrs. Helen Lewis, Mrs. Goldie Brown, and Mrs. Emma Boden. My first objective is to determine a date and place of marriage for Isreal and Lula. It does not appear to have been filed in Allegheny County. The second objective is to learn details about the descendants of Lula, with the possibility of making contact with them. Our relationship is through Isreal COLES and his first wife. Will exchange information. Toni Richard Turk P.O. Box 667 Blanding, UT 84511 turkt@do.sanjuan.k12.ut.us

Hi folks: I just posted the lates maps, Robinson & Collier Twps. Please don't post any questions or requests to the Allegheny list because I intend to unsub as soon as I finish this. The inconsiderate people who insist on posting requests for lookups and thank you's to the whole list have overwhelmed my mail, and I decided it wasn't worth the hassle of filtering the BS out. I'll re-sub long enough to post the rest of the maps. -- Larry Thompson http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html

I need some good old advice from anyone out there who knows ....Today I received in the mail the info I requested from the Beaver Co Genealogical Society more than worth their fee for a search...I was told to write the Court House for a will and and to send 2 or 3 dollars for it.....now this is what has me confused..they found a widows appraisement Vol 16 page 263 1884 and a Real Estate sold Vol 16 page 300 1884 on Patrick O'Kean also a O'Keane Patrick 1884 Registers docket #4 page 326.....will I receive all this info when I request the will or will I have to put all this in the note and request each one? both spellings are of the same person... Thank you Sharon TX

Hi This is not my line but I looked through the cemetery listing that I have and found several Whitehills buied in Hookstown Cem. One is Joseph Ewing Whitehill d 8-20-1904 (6 Months). You might try looking in Hookstown. Carol/Pa

I have a GGGGrandmother, Rosanna Morton, wife of Michael Baker, b 1760. Family lore has it that she descended from John Morton, a PA Signer of the Declaration of Independence. I don't know her mother or father, except that she was from the Beaver, PA area. Anyone have any ideas? Carl Davidson

from Jon Adams 223 Grace St. Suffolk VA 23434 RE: David ADAMS, Jr. and Sarah McKIBBEN I am seeking information about my ancestors, David Adams and Sarah McKibben. In 1834, David and his two older sons went west from Beaver County, PA (now Lawrence Co.) and bought land in Montgomery Twp, Wood Co. Ohio. David built a mill on the Portage River. A Wood County history records that David followed his brother Asa to Ohio. That David had been a distiller in Pennsylvania; and that he and Sarah were members of the Presbyterian Church. Other Descendants of David and Sarah farmed in Seneca County, and recorded in the HIstory of jSeneca County (1886) that David (who was a JR.) had a grandfather named Alexander Adams, and that Alexander was from New Jersey. David Adams died in 1859; his wife, Sarah, having died in 1857. Both are buried in West Millgrove Cemetery in Wood County, Ohio. I would appreciate information that anyone might be able to access about David and Sarah Adams. jonadams@mindgames.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------

Hi I have one James Whitehill in my database but I'm unsure if it is your line since I don't have his wife listed. Is your James Whitehill the son of Stephen Whitehill and Margaret M. Reed? If so, I have information on Margaret's ancestry. She was the daughter of Henry Reed and Jane McBride McCandless. I have this line back quite a ways. Den Ardinger ---------- From: DMarTaylor@aol.com To: PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PABEAVER-L] EWING & MCLAUGHLIN in Beaver County Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 9:46 PM Looking for information on these surnames. My ggg-grandfather, James WHITEHILL of Hanover township, married Martha EWING, probably around 1828 (based on age of oldest child in the 1850 census). According to Warner's History of Beaver County, Martha is the daughter of James and Jane (MCLAUGHLIN) EWING. In the 1850 census, she's recorded as being 44 years old, so she was born around 1806. I've seen references to several Ewing and McLaughlin families but don't know which ones my folks belong to, if any of them. Does anyone have any information about either of these surnames? ==== PABEAVER Mailing List ==== To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: mailto:impattic@mediaone.net remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........

Looking for information on these surnames. My ggg-grandfather, James WHITEHILL of Hanover township, married Martha EWING, probably around 1828 (based on age of oldest child in the 1850 census). According to Warner's History of Beaver County, Martha is the daughter of James and Jane (MCLAUGHLIN) EWING. In the 1850 census, she's recorded as being 44 years old, so she was born around 1806. I've seen references to several Ewing and McLaughlin families but don't know which ones my folks belong to, if any of them. Does anyone have any information about either of these surnames?

Hello Clarion/Bulter/Mifflin/Cumberland/Beaver/Allegheny/Huntington County Researchers!! I have a website on the soldiers of the 78th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry. Many of the soldiers of this unit were from Indiana, Armstrong, Clarion, Bulter, Mufflin, Cumberland, Beaver, Allegheny and Huntington counties. I am looking for any pictures that one might have of any of these soldiers of the 78th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry so that I may place their pictures on the website under the company that they served in. If anyone is interested in having there ancestors photo on this site please send a scanned photo so I may include it on the web site thru e-mail. Should you not have a scanner to scan the photo..if you take the photo to a copy place that has a color copier and have the photo scanned in black and white and then send the scanned photo to me I will be more than happy to do the scanning for you. The 78th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry site URL is: http://members.tripod.com/~ProlificPains/cwpages.htm Thanks in Advance!! Pamela Randolph (3 Great Grandaughter of Samuel L. Smith of Company "A") 4801 Clarity Court Sacramento, CA 95842

Here is a followup, found on the Scotch-Irish-L list. -Marc McCune http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4660 -----Original Message----- From: Bryce Stevens [SMTP:BStevens@netstarcomm.net] Sent: Monday, June 29, 1998 3:29 PM To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com Subject: CALL TO ARMS IN DISCARD Follow-up Kevin, and all: This follow- up came out a day after the discard alert. Apparently response was overwhelming. Before anyone writes to the newspaper or the county commissioners, I suggest you read this message, too. You may still wish to write, but I believe this will affect just what you say. Bryce Stevens Please bear with me for this last, long email. There was a third story published today, June 26, by the WV Times about Marion County, and to be fair, it should be available to the same people who have read the first two stories. It was, as follows: * * * * * By Theresa Haynes Times West Virginian Staff Writer FAIRMONT Local genealogists searching for an old marriage record or birth certificate do not need to go sifting through the trash. Marion County Clerk Janice Cosco said her department did not throw away any permanent records from the Jacobs building earlier this month when maintenance workers cleared away six BFI Dumpsters of outdated files and papers from the historic building. "Everything we are charged by law to keep was not thrown away," she said. "No permanent records, that I know of, were thrown away." Cosco, who has been the county's clerk for 18 years, said she still has original copies of wills, birth certificates, death certificates, deeds, marriage certificates, land transfers, voter registration records and county commission records dating back to the county's inception in 1842. She said her department discarded old fiscal records, pieces of paper recording every penny spent at the county clerk's office, and outdated universal consumer code slips, which record credit transactions. Cosco said she is legally responsible to save the receipt books for 10 years and the consumer code slips for seven years, but she boxed and stored the records for at least two decades. For years the Jacobs building housed these outdated records, but earlier this month Cosco gave maintenance workers permission to trash the papers including some receipt books dating back to 1920. The county clerk said she would have liked to save everything but there ust was not room to house it all. "The public needs to understand that in order to keep their precious records we have to have a place to put them," she said as she stood inside one of the courthouse's many fireproof vaults filled with old wills and birth, marriage and death records. "(Marion County Commissioner) Cody Starcher has gotten all kinds of flak over this, but Cody should get an award," she said. "He found the money to restore the Jacob's building so we could have a place to put the permanent records." Last year Starcher was instrumental in getting the state to approve transferring $330,000 from the jail improvement fund to renovate the dilapidated Jacobs building. When renovations are complete, the old building will be used for office space and record storage. Starcher, who is also overseeing the Jacobs building cleanup, said he did not sort through the five floors of piled papers and books, but allowed the county clerk, circuit clerk, prosecuting attorney and assessor to walk through the building and take what they wanted. Everything else was discarded. Local historians believe some records, including 10 leather-bound pre-Civil War Justice of the Peace books, were thrown away because no one in the courthouse set them aside to be kept. Because Justice of the Peace books are not considered permanent records, Starcher said the county could have thrown them away years ago. But the former Justice of the Peace said he does not know for sure if the Justice of the Peace books dating back to 1842 were destroyed because he does not know what the historical books look like or why anyone would want them. "I don't know why anyone would want to look at those anyway," he asked. "I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder." Starcher said even if historians thought the information in the books was valuable, the books themselves were damaged from years of sitting in a dusty, nearly abandoned building. "That building was burned three times and everything in there was rained on. Some of the windows were broken out," he said. "Anything in there was scarred, scratched or torn up." The county commissioner said the Jacobs building still is in such poor condition he is afraid to allow genealogists and historians to search through the remaining records at the old building. "We couldn't keep all five floors of junk and garbage and renovate that building," he said. "We thought we would do something better for the town and the county and renovate the building. That took precedence over a couple of books that might have been thrown away." * * * * * MY COMMENTS: First of all, thank each of you who have contributed your emails and letters in protest of the actions by the Marion County Commissioners. I was amazed at how quickly the masses responded despite our physical separation (this 'ole Internet is pretty good, eh?). The pressure we created was felt by all the local government, citizens and especially the county commissioners of Marion County. The jury is still out on whether all the materials that were dumped were, indeed, unrelated to the object of genealogy or historian researchers. I don't feel comfortable that their "definition" of what was thrown away excludes materials that would be of benefit to some! We imagined the worst, since Mr. Cody Starcher admitted there was not an inventory of what was tossed. With no inventory, we were all free to imagine what was in that pile, and Mr. Starcher can not prove us wrong. He has no idea he didn't toss some historical or cultural treasure, no matter how minor it may have been to him. This is a democracy, and we do have a right to be told before public records are thrown away. Our outrage continues to be about our paid officials making unilateral decisions such as was made. They should not be allowed to decide who to invite in to "take what they want" and then to decide to have the rest hauled away before anyone else could see it. It was Cody Starcher's secretive actions that raised the suspicions of the local Marion County historians and, eventually, the newspapers and then each of us. We were all outraged over Commissioner Starcher's arbitrary exercise of power, and we've done well to spotlight it! We have all acted in the spirit of the early American Revolutionaries (many of our ancestors) who demanded public officials be accountable to the public. As a friend said, "we showed up with Email pitchforks, and Cody didn't like it." Hopefully, our actions this week will serve to keep records that are left in Marion County and elsewhere preserved. Thank you again for helping to spotlight a wrongful action. If you should want to continue that pressure, that is up to you. An address list of the Marion County Commissioners is below: BOARD OFCOMMISSIONERS PRESIDENT, James E Sago (304-367-5400) 200 Jackson Street / Fairmont, WV 26554 Commissioner Cecily Enos (304-367-5400) 200 Jackson Street / Fairmont, WV 26554 Commissioner Cody Starcher (304-367-5400) 200 Jackson Street / Fairmont, WV 26554 Assessor Thomas Davis (304-367-5410) 200 Jackson Street / Fairmont, WV 26554 Circuit Clerk Barbara Core (304-367-5360) PO Box 1269 / Fairmont, WV 26554 County Clerk Janice Cosco (304-367-5440) PO Box 1267 / Fairmont, WV 26554 * * * * * Pam Mullinax E-Mail: pmullinax@mindspring.com

---------- > From: John/Debbie Bertoline <jberto@nauticom.net> > To: PAALLEGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAALLEGH-L] cemetery look ups ?? > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 7:22 AM > > Reading a few recent postings, a few have asked for cemetery look ups. Do > some of you on the list have books of your own or do you go to libraries or > research centers ? Those of you giving the information seem to do this > quite frequently. > > As a newbie I really do not know what kind of information is ok to ask for. > Can someone give me a clue. > Thanks so much to all who so easily give information. > > Debbie > > > ==== PAALLEGH Mailing List ==== > Please do NOT forward any virus warnings. > All virus warnings are HOAXES. > You can read about them at: > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > http://www.ncsa.com/services/consortia/anti-virus/alerthoax.html > http://kumite.com/myths/home.htm > > > >

I would say this Cody Starcher is the south end of a northbound horse. Mac

A message I received in the ROBINSON-L list. I sincerely hope that the Beaver County Historical Society would never let this happen to any of the Beaver County Records. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Beaty [SMTP:billyb@mtnhome.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 6:46 PM To: ROBINSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [BP2000-L] CALL TO ARMS ---------- > From: Ray Beaty <r1941@idt.net> > To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BP2000-L] CALL TO ARMS > Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 2:35 PM > > Please forward the news of this Marion County, West Virginia travesty to every > genealogy group or historical society that you belong to. Also, if you have any > media contacts or government contacts please forward this information to them. > Let's make Cody Starcher infamous! > > From: Pam Mullinax > E-Mail: pmullinax@mindspring.com > > Fairmont -- Leatherbound books recording transactions between 1842 to > 1880 have been important to local genealogist, but now the historical > books are gone - buried with the five bins of trash the Marion County > Commission hauled away from the Jacob's building last week. > > Along with books were, boxes and files of papers dating back to Marion > County's inception in 1942. There were five floors that had books, boxes > and files to be removed. > > Some of the books were Wills; others were Justice of the Peace books. > There may have been other records, but the article didn't say what all > had been destoyed, because they didn't know. The article was a large > article for the paper. The historical and genealogical societies were > NOT notified that the county had planned to discard the handwritten > record books, files and other etcs. > > It seems the decision was made by the county commissioners (namely, Cody > Starcher) to clear out several floors from the Jacobs building (scheduled > for renovation) in which these historical documents were stored. They > decided on their own that no one would want to go through all the files to > separate out the salvagable and so decided to not tell anyone. They then > had the local garbage collectors come and clear out the books and documents. > > ************* > > The story about the above first appeared in the Times West Virginian > (Fairmont, WV)Sunday,June 21, 1998. On Thursday, June 25, 1998 the > below follow-up story was published. > > > * * * > Dump off limits to historians > > By Theresa Haynes > Times West Virginian Staff Writer > > FAIRMONT - > Genealogists who wanted to dig through the landfill in search of the > county's discarded pre-Civil War record books will not be allowed to > excavate the dump. Ron Chrislip, a local historian who has researched > Marion County's past for more than 30 years, said he and four other people > were prepared to go to the Meadowfill Landfill in Bridgeport to search for > the record books tossed last week. > > But landfill officials halted the group's plans at the request of the > Marion County Commission. > > The day books dating back to 1842 were among several tons of outdated > files, books and papers the commission removed from the historic Jacob's > building, which is undergoing renovation. > > Chrislip said he and other genealogists wanted to dig up the historically > valuable record books when they learned the books had been hauled away to > the dump, but the landfill told them there were confidential files among > the garbage. > > Commissioner Cody Starcher said in an interview last week that the county > had received special permission from the state to include old juvenile > records in the six BFI Dumpster trash bins hauled to the dump. > > "We are allowed to throw the juvenile records away after 20 years," he > said. "But they usually have to be shredded and burned." > > Now local historians are concerned they will never see the priceless, > handwritten books again. > > "I don't see how they will be retrieved," Chrislip said. "As a historian I > have to be realistic. Now hopefully the county will preserve what is left." > Chrislip said the leather-bound books were particularly valuable > because they recorded everything from the county clerk's office. > > "Record keeping then was a very different process," he said. "We were > still in Virginia and documents like that are very, very rare." > > The historian said the records gave insight into a lifestyle long gone. > > "There is no oral history from that time, no photography and very little > written history. Through the day books we had a great deal of information > to interpret history," he said. > > Chrislip agrees with the county commission that the books had no monetary > value, but he said the county has lost something culturally valuable. > > He said 20 years ago he had searched for day books like the ones thrown > away and was told they did not exist. Years later he learned they were in > existence, but in "dead" storage. > > The historian said he and other people interested in genealogy would have > liked to have been given access to the books before they were discarded. > > County Commission President James Sago and Starcher were not available > for comment Wednesday evening. > * * * > > If you'd like to write the Editor of the WV Times, > > The email address is: > timeswv@timeswv.com > > LETTERS TO THE EDITOR: > All letters for publication should be so stated. > Requests for publication must include address & telephone number. > phone: (304) 367-2500 * Fax: (304) 367-2569 > > Or postal mail to: > Times West Virginian > PO Box 2530 > Fairmont, WV 26555-2530 > -Marc Sunseri McCune http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4660

Hello, I am new to the Beaver mail list. I am searching for any information on the KRUT's. ANTON KRUT was my gggrandfather who settled into Beaver County and purchased a farm in 1857 from Jesse Dean. It was an 86 acre farm with a cider mill, planning mill, wagon shed, spring house, storage house for vinegar bats, smoke house, blacksmith shop and a chicken house along with cows and other "farm" goods. Any information would be a joy to have. Thanks to all in advance. Debbie

Looking for info on a William Stevens b. abt. 1817 in Ohio m. Clara/Clarissa Waid b.abt.1826 in Pa. Children: John William abt. 1841 Marcus abt. 1846 James abt. 1849 George abt. 1851 Florence C. abt. 1856 Emma abt. 1858 Abraham Lincoln b. 4/1861 Laura D. abt. 1864 Thanks! The family lived in Fallston Brenda ************************************************** My new and improved website! http://home.neo.lrun.com/bans ICQ#8636576 ***************************************************

There was a woman who contacted me while i was on vacation in N.H., wanting information about the Jewells's and Campbells. Unfortunately, not all my email was still on line when I returned home. If you reconize this letter please contact me. Jean E. Butler (JEButler30@AOL.COM)

I just uploaded this weeks map. Unfortunately it is quite large - 2+ meg. -- Larry Thompson http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html

>ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative Weekly News >Vol. 1, No. 2, 24 June 1998 >Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > >Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG > >***************************************************************** > >RootsWeb Review is e-mailed on Wednesdays to all who make use of >the resources provided by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > <SNIP> >***************************************************************** > >CONTENTS: New This Week at RootsWeb; Free Web Space for Genealogy >Societies; Connecting through RootsWeb; Year 2000 Bugs; Geek >Speak; An (Almost) Unexpurgated History of RootsWeb; Mailing >Lists and Web Pages; Backstage at RootsWeb: Excerpts from the >Staff Diary; Tech Humor. > >***************************************************************** > >NEW THIS WEEK AT ROOTSWEB: We've added two more newsfeeds to >RootsWeb's news server, including one to France. The extra feeds >mean that Usenet articles in the soc.genealogy.* newsgroups will >flow more quickly and efficiently through our systems. It also >means that the flow of genealogy Usenet traffic between the U.S. >and Europe has improved a bit. > >Our goal is to make RootsWeb *the* central switching station for >genealogy netnews articles in the world. We're especially >interested in improving connectivity to Europe, Asia and >Australia. > >***************************************************************** > > FREE WEB SPACE FOR GENEALOGY SOCIETIES > >For "historical" and "fraternal/genealogical" groups RootsWeb >provides *unlimited* free space, subject to three rules: > >o Upload no copyrighted material save with permission. > >o Upload no lineage-linked databases. > >o If goods, services, or memberships are sold through RootsWeb, > RootsWeb expects a 5% honorarium. > >In particular, primary records are always welcome -- RootsWeb >will provide as much space as needed for BDMs, tombstones, census >records, etc. > >Family associations are treated the same as individuals, which >means they must become RootsWeb Sponsors and space costs an >additional $24 dollars per 25 MB block per year. Rules for family >associations and individuals are: > >o Upload no copyrighted material save with permission. > >o Space may not be resold. > >o If goods, services, or memberships are sold through RootsWeb, > RootsWeb expects a 5% honorarium. > >Lineage-linked databases are perfectly OK in paid accounts. > >IMPORTANT: At the moment RootsWeb IS creating "historical" and >"fraternal/genealogical" accounts, but there is a temporary >moratorium on family association/individual Web space. Once we're >satisfied that we have homepages.rootsweb.com operating smoothly, >then we'll begin offering family association and individual >accounts again. > >Most of the genealogical societies currently hosted by RootsWeb >are listed at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~websites/gensoc.htm> > >***************************************************************** > >CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB: Clare Peden Midgley, a USGenWeb >Project county coordinator (Allegheny County, Pennsylvania ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh> and Cambria County, >Pennsylvania <http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacambri/>, sent along >this message, which recently was posted on the Allegheny County, >Pennsylvania mailing list <PAALLEGH-L-request@rootsweb.com>. > >"As part of my routine, I always look to see what names others >are searching. About three weeks ago, I noticed a posting on >BAXENDELL. The individual posting was David Baxendell from New >Zealand. It turns out that that he is searching the same name as >my uncle Howard Baxendell, and had a great deal of information to >pass along to my Baxendell side of the family. The Baxendells >here in the USA, were elated to find their missing relatives. >THANK YOU, PAALLEGH." Lou Young, in CA <UPYOURTREE@aol.com> > > * * * > >How many connections do you suppose are made through RootsWeb in >an average month? > >When we asked Dr. Leverich that question, he responded: "For the >Roots Surname List (RSL), we know that users of the database were >looking up the e-mail address of the average submitter about >seven times each month. Folding that into anecdotal evidence, I'd >guess that the RSL brings the average submitter one or two new >contacts each month. In total, that's probably 100,000 contacts >made each month just by the RSL. > >"When you factor in the surname lists, the mailing lists, query >boards, and all that other stuff, I'd estimate that 200,000 to >300,000 contacts are made each month at RootsWeb. These are only >the contacts we *know* about -- the real number may be much >higher." > >***************************************************************** > >YEAR 2000 (Y2K) BUGS: "What happens to the RootsWeb system when >the year 2000 hits? Will the system survive?," inquired RWR >reader Mary Anne Fisher. > >Karen and Doc respond: "We use Linux (a dialect of Unix). >Well-designed Unix software is *less* prone to Y2K bugs than >Windows software. The systems definitely aren't going to explode >or stop dead, though we may have a few hiccups." > >***************************************************************** > >GEEK SPEAK: This week's entries are provided by Dale "Doc" >Schneider, Sysadmin and guru of RootsWeb. > >PING is a program which sends a small packet of information to a >server and returns it... with the time it takes to >get there and return. > >POP3 = Post Office Protocol v3 >It is how a person get their mail from their ISP to their mail >software. > >SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol >It is how a person sends their mail from their mail software to >the internet. > >Ellen expanded on entry two above: POP (Post Office Protocol) is >_one_ way of accessing your email from a service provider.If you >use Eudora or Netscape Mail, for example, what you're usually >doing is dialing your provider's POP server, querying a specific >port on that server, and downloading your mail to your Mac or >Windows PC -- all without ever actually logging in to an account >on the provider. I log in directly, work interactively and read >my mail directly from the spool, with Unix mail clients like >'mail' and 'mm'. People who use 'pine', a very popular Unix >mailer, may be getting their mail via POP *or* directly from the >spool, depending on local configuration. There are other >protocols for remote access to email, too. Some providers have >already moved ahead to IMAP (Interactive Mail Access Protocol) -- >Eudora, Netscape, and pine are all IMAP-configurable. There are >several other experimental protocols; these are described in the >"LAN Mail Protocols Summary", posted regularly to comp.mail.misc >and available at: ><URL:http://web.syr.edu/~jmwobus/comfaqs/lan-mail-protocols.html> > >***************************************************************** > > AN (ALMOST) UNEXPURGATED HISTORY OF ROOTSWEB > > by Dr. Brian Leverich, Co-moderator, > soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > >Long, long ago and in a *really* distant galaxy (about 1976 at >Harvard), a young man was trying to finish a project on one of >the old S-100 bus machines, whose power supply was overheating. >His friends found him with his face and head fully buried in the >machine's cabinet, alternately blowing on some heat sinks and >sucking on the ceramic material encasing some big stabilizing >resistors. This same pervert was also engaged in interconnecting >computers in novel ways, doing something that was called >"networking" in the academic journals but at that time looked >more like a cybernetic group grope. > >Less long ago and in a less distant galaxy (about 1980 at the >RAND Corporation), there were two newly married, recently >escaped from graduate school folks who would read *every* post >made to Usenet every day. > >On a vacation in 1986, Karen started looking for her >grandfather's birthplace. She dragged Brian along for the search. >That was the start of the addiction. > >Being thoroughgoing Internet geeks, K & B started hanging out in >net.roots. Then Alf Christophersen launched the ROOTS-L mailing >list in December 1987, and that was yet another place to hang >out. > >Karen began maintenance of the Roots Surname List in 1989, when >everything was done with file archives and such. > >By something like 1993, the Web had gotten started and Steven >Woods had created the first Web-based search engine for the RSL. > >Shortly afterwards and largely to persuade RAND to let them >dabble on the exploding Web using the corporate Web server, K and >B and friends launched the RAND Genealogy Club. They created one >of the earliest genealogy Websites, a site which grew so popular >that it soon was generating significantly more traffic than the >official corporate Website. > >In the Fall of 1995, K and B drove and camped their way up to >Alaska with their German Shepherds. On the way back they decided >they'd had enough of Los Angeles. Back at home, they sold their >house in the suburbs and moved to a cabin on the North Slope of >Mt. Pinos, 60 miles from the nearest wide spot on any road. > >Along with getting indoor plumbing, they had Pac Bell install a >high-speed digital line. Moans from the telco's sales and >engineering staffs were blithely ignored. > >About that same time RAND's management, whose obliviousness to >the activities of the staff is legendary, was finally beginning >to suspect something was not quite kosher on the Web server. >Looking at the visitor counts, it was straining even management's >credibility that that many people actually cared what RAND was. > >Sensing a problem in the making, K & B registered the name of >RootsWeb.com and started serving the RSL and other genealogical >material out of their mountainside cabin in February of 1996. >They were amazed when a Dutch site spotlighted them and they got >*3,000* hits in one day. In May of 1996 K & B got their first T1. >A big day was 50,000 Web hits. > >While RootsWeb was getting started, Apple's eWorld was having >difficulty hosting ROOTS-L and its sister lists. There was a >major crash at eWorld in July of 1996, and RootsWeb began list >serving for ROOTS-L. K & B consumed 197.3 gallons of coffee and >4.73 stomach linings moving ROOTS-L to our servers. > >RootsWeb began accepting voluntary contributions from its users >at that point, because the costs were beginning to exceed what K >& B could afford from their own pockets. > >In the Fall, Winter, and Spring of 1996-97 RootsWeb continued >growing, adding support for the USGenWeb Archives and for many >USGenWeb counties. > >RootsWeb discovered a call-girl ring was being operated out of >one of the Websites it hosted in January, 1997. The Website was >closed immediately, though there are unconfirmed reports that B >archived the GIFs somewhere at RootsWeb. > >In May of 1997 RootsWeb adopted 1,000 Maiser mailing lists, after >that server was destroyed by a spam attack from the sleazes at >Atlanta's Benchmark Printing. Another 227.7 gallons of coffee >were consumed and 6.38 stomach linings destroyed. > >At the same time the Maiser lists were settling in, RootsWeb had >its final round of attacks by a cracker who had been breaking >into its systems for months. Things culminated in a sort of >surreal exchange of e-mail between the cracker and B, and that >seems to have ended the problem. > >In August of 1997 RootsWeb adopted the dozen or so *large* lists >still being served by eWorld. During the following Fall, Winter, >and Spring RootsWeb continued to grow. > >February of 1998 brought the worst of the El Nino storms, and B >spent most of one week living in a dark, unheated network >operations center as he tended the generator that kept RootsWeb >online. > >In April of 1998 Palladium Interactive, publisher of the >extraordinary Ultimate Family Tree software, became the corporate >sponsor of RootsWeb. Palladium's sponsorship enabled RootsWeb to >continue to grow. > >The RootsWeb Review, edited by Julie Case and Myra Vanderpool >Gormley, published its first edition on 17 June 1998. > >At present, RootsWeb hosts more than 2,700 Websites and 3,600 >mailing lists. RootsWeb now has a dozen servers and five T1s >worth of bandwidth, and handles more than 1,300,000 Web hits and >3,000,000 pieces of e-mail on a typical day. RootsWeb expects to >be adding several more main servers and a sixth (and possibly >seventh) T1 within the next few weeks. > >If you would like to help RootsWeb by becoming a member, sponsor, >donor, or patron, please visit: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> > >***************************************************************** > >MAILING LISTS AND WEB SITES: To subscribe or unsubscribe from any >RootsWeb mailing list, send an e-mail message with only the word >SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the subject and the body of the >message to [name of list]-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) >or to [name of list]-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode). If >you have an automatic signature file, please be sure to turn it >off before you send the request. For example, if you wish to be >removed from this mailing list, send your UNSUBSCRIBE message to: > > Rootsweb-Review-L-request@rootsweb.com > >NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS RECENTLY CREATED ON ROOTSWEB: > >Bartlett-Roots (an alternate Bartlett mailing list) >Cales >Cassie >Downing >Fergus >Fowler >Gatewood >Grenfell >Haffey >Koehler/Kohler >Lay >Lund >McClurg >McNeal >Mattingly >Scott (Clan Scott Society) >VanLandingham/Vallandingham > >NEW COUNTY AND STATE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETIES AND GROUPS AT >ROOTSWEB: > >AL--Lowndes County >AZ--Paradise Valley Genealogy Project in Arizona >GA--Madison County >IA--Madison County >LA--Louisiana USGenWeb discussion list; LAGenWeb Archive >coordinators and volunteers >MS--Jefferson Davis County; Montgomery County >NC--North Carolina USGenWeb discussion list >NJ--Morris County >VA--Grayson County; Patrick County; Rockingham County >WI--Marquette County >WV--Calhoun County > >SPOTLIGHT ON WEB SITES FOUND ON ROOTSWEB: > >MAINE OLD CEMETERY ASSOCIATION, M.O.C.A. ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~memoca/moca.htm> is dedicated to the >preservation of Maine's neglected cemeteries. Among the group's >active projects is preparing its county cemetery listings for >publication. The York County Cemetery Records (a 2,976-page tome) >is complete and offered for sale. The next set in this series >will be Kennebec County. M.O.C.A. also publishes a quarterly >newsletter for its members. At its meeting July 11 at Church of >the Good Shepherd Episcopal Church in Rangeley, Maine, the >speaker will be Senator John Benoit whose topic will be "Maine >Cemetery Laws." > >DOWNWARD BOUND: HELP FINDING YOUR ANCESTORS OF GREAT LAKES >SHIPPING <http:www.rootsweb.com/~migls/archives.html> offers help >regarding resources and material pertaining to ancestors who were >involved with shipping on the Great Lakes -- the U.S. and Canada. >Whether they owned or worked on a ship, were dock hands, shipyard >workers, lighthouse keepers, U.S. Lifesaver, Coast Guard >personnel or Merchant Marine, this is a good site to visit. >There's an onsite search engine (if you have Java-capable >browser) for the entire Downward Bound site for surnames, ship >names and place names. This is another excellent site -- part of >the USGenWeb project. > >***************************************************************** > >BACKSTAGE AT ROOTSWEB: EXCERPTS FROM THE STAFF DIARY. > >6/18/98 (B) No joy on the 5th T1. Battled traffic to make it to >the wouldbe Redondo Beach NOC before the DeltaNet tech got here >at 10a. Made it just in time. We installed the new Bay Networks >ARN router on our LAN down here (our first 100 Mb backbone!), but >when we tried to bring up the frame circuit we just got dead air. >So we called GTE, who had finished the install yesterday. So we >thought. Turns out the circuit hadn't worked for them, and the >GTE installer had gone home without sharing that fact with any of >us. Anyway, we provided motivation to GTE and by 3:30 we had a >live frame relay circuit. Still no joy connecting to DeltaNet, >though. So after some phone calls, we find out that the circuit >cuts through Pac Bell territory and Pac Bell hasn't done their >thing yet. So at 5:10p we find the right Pac Bell tech and they >say we'll be up in 10 minutes. I think he was buying time to run >for the door. Anyway, it's 9:15p now and still no circuit, so I'm >starting the 102 mile drive for home. I'll be back down here >tomorrow trying to finish the install. > >6/23/98 (B) There's never a dull moment around here. I get a call >at 4pm from Scott Rosen, the admin I share a NOC with here in >Pine Mountain Club. *All* of his servers have just crashed and >rebooted. So we meet at the NOC, verify that all of his boxes did >simultaneously reboot, and observe that none of RootsWeb's boxes >went down. Since we have separate uninterruptible power supplies, >we immediately suspect something went wrong with his. We run >diagnostics, but everything is fine. Then we hear footsteps >overhead. That is definitely *not* normal, because the NOC is on >the top floor. Looking out the window, we realize the >electricians are here installing the ducting for our new T1 >connections. Following the new ducting down the wall, we realize >they drilled through the wall and neatly into Scott's main power >line. The resulting short and power glitch rebooted all his >boxen. Bet it was pretty exciting for the guy running the drill, >too. As I was saying, never a dull moment. At least it wasn't a >condor roosting on the microwave antenna this time. > >6/24/98 (B) The British Broadcasting Corporation has just brought >down our main mail server. They've got something hopelessly >buggered in their mail handling and it causes mail loops. I've >removed the proximate cause of the mess, and I'm searching for >any other list subscribers from that host. If I find them I'll >kill them. > >***************************************************************** > >TECH HUMOR: I once received a fax with a note on the bottom to >fax the document back to the sender when I was finished with it, >because he needed to keep it. > > > Patti Caldwell Fasy <impattic@mediaone.net> Listmistress "Past experience should be a guidepost not a hitching post".........

For those of you who gave me info re the obtaining of wills Thank you all very much..I did end up calling to find out how much to send and was told it was a $1.00 a page and usually the wills are 1 to 2 pages long they suggest to send a ck blank and put in the for line not to exceed a certain amount...that way if they find the will they can send it to you and you have aready paid for it and they will send receipt so you can put in check book.. I believe them and they are honest as they have sent my check back when they did not find a death certificate for me Thought I would pass this info along to the list Sharon TX