Yes, both are archived. At present we're working on a way to simplify the process of getting to the archives. You will be notified when the system is operational. You could try the old way of getting the archived messages. Instructions are below: The Rootsweb mailing lists are set up with two directories that you are interested in. The individual messages are in a directory called "latest" that you can access by writing to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com, while the digests are in a directory called "volume97" that you can access by writing to XYZ-D-request@rootsweb.com. In either case, the messages have filenames that are simply decimal numbers, "1" through however many messages have been archived. There might be a few other administrative files that have names that don't follow that pattern. To access the message archives for the XYZ-L mailing list, send a message to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com that has the word archive and nothing else in the subject. To get a list of the messages, with the subject lines, put search subject: latest/* in the body of the message. After a while, you'll get back a message from rootsweb that looks something like this: begin________cut here--------- latest/1:15:Subject: XYZ-L is on line! latest/10:15:Subject: Gwendolyn XYZ d. 1820 KY latest/11:12:Subject: help with XYZ family latest/12:12:Subject: Re: Gwendolyn XYZ d. 1820 KY latest/13:15:Subject: Thomas XYZ m. Charlene ZZZ VA 1740 latest/14:12:Subject: toner latest/15:13:Subject: XYZ family in Kentucky latest/16:15:Subject: Re: toner latest/17:12:Subject: query latest/18:13:How to unsubscribe from this list?????? latest/19:15: Subject: Re: toner latest/2:14:Subject:Re: XYZ-L is on line! latest/20:13:Subject:Re: query etc. ----------------------- Now, let's assume you want to read the messages about Gwendolyn. The file names are latest/10 and latest/12, which is the part of each line up to the first colon. The next number, between the first two colons, is just the line number within the message were the subject line appeared, and the remainder of the line is the actual subject line. To get these two messages, send another message to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com, with archive in the subject, and send latest/10 latest/12 in the body. After a while, you'll receive copies of the two messages. They will come just as they were originally sent. If your mailreader sorts incoming mail by the "sent date", you'll have to look back among the old messages in your inbox to find them. If you just want to get all of the archived messages, you can write to XYZ-D-request instead of XYZ-L-request, with "archive" in the subject, and put the following in the body of your request: maxfiles 100 send volume97/* If you don't put the "maxfiles 100" and there happen to be more than sixteen messages in the archive (which is likely), you'll just get an error message. If there are more than 100 messages, you'll still get an error message and will probably want to request the archives piecemeal rather than all at once. If you want to copy this material to your list, changing "XYZ" to the appropriate surname, go ahead. Hope this helps some. Patti Caldwell,Listmistress <impattic@mediaone.net>