Well, I just got my grandfather's birth cert and was a little disappointed. Now another version of HALDERMAN, HOLDERMAN, HULDERMAN, etc, etc, etc. It is HALDMAN. Just in case though, the names I am looking for are Jeannette HALDMAN and Joseph SILVER. Would the courthouse have marriage license records for about 1899? thanks debi -- SIMPLE PLEASURES ARE THE BEST, ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SMILE AND GLOW. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [email protected]! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/