Tom: From FHL transcribed CDs, 1880: (copying exactly) Highland, Clarion, Pennsylvania FHL Film 1255118 National Archives Film T9-1118 Page 411C Lewis FRANTZ Self M M W 63 HAEOREN Farmer HAEOREN HAEOREN Emaline FRANTZ Wife F M W 45 PA Keeping House PA PA Lottie W. FRANTZ Dau F S W 1 PA HAEOREN PA George BEATY SSon M S W 15 PA Works on Farm PA PA Anyway, it looks like the transcriber saw it as HAEOREN, but the question is where is that? Have you looked on the 1870 census to see what that says? Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <tomchapman@adelphia.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Please doublecheck for me > Oops...that would be Lewis Frantz. I got confused because he appears in > 1850 and 18790 as France. Also, he is listed as born in France in those > years, but I can't make out the 1880 birthplace. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TACODMK@aol.com> > To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Please doublecheck for me > > > > Tom I checked the Mormon site and ancestry.com and I do not even see a > > listing in Highland, Clarion Co. for your Lewis France did you spell it > exactly the > > way you saw it on the census > > > > Donna > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

Tom found your Lewis FRANTZHousehold Male Other Information: Birth Year<1818> BirthplaceHAEOREN Age62 OccupationFarmer Marital StatusM <Married> RaceW <White> Head of HouseholdLewis FRANTZ RelationSelf Father's BirthplaceHAEOREN Mother's BirthplaceHAEOREN Source Information: Census PlaceHighland, Clarion, Pennsylvania Have no Idea where that is but that is what Familysearch.org says for him

Tom I checked the Mormon site and ancestry.com and I do not even see a listing in Highland, Clarion Co. for your Lewis France did you spell it exactly the way you saw it on the census Donna

Oops...that would be Lewis Frantz. I got confused because he appears in 1850 and 18790 as France. Also, he is listed as born in France in those years, but I can't make out the 1880 birthplace. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TACODMK@aol.com> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Please doublecheck for me > Tom I checked the Mormon site and ancestry.com and I do not even see a > listing in Highland, Clarion Co. for your Lewis France did you spell it exactly the > way you saw it on the census > > Donna > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

Would somebody please look at Lewis France in the Highland, Clarion, 1880 census and tell me what you think his birthplace is? It looks like "Hessian" to me, but it's spelled "Hecian" or some such thing. Does anybody know him? Thanks, Tom

Does anyone have info about David Henderson? He was listed on the 1910 census with his wife Lucy and son Loyal & other children, having been married 11 years. !920 census lists Lucy married to a Mr. Crowe and her 4 children. I have not been able to find where he is buried or a listing of him on any previous census. Have not found and obit either. Need some help, Please. Thank you, Michelle O.

Hello Susan! You and I will have to put our heads together on the Sharps again soon! Stay in touch! Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan E" <specreatmusicepp@verizon.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] new server/Susan Eppich/ Bleakney, George families and James P. Carter family. > Hello again, > > We have been home again long enough to change our phone service and computer > ISP, so that we > can have DSL, or the super fast service, for my husband's computer needs and > my GEN seaching. > Any of you that I have been in contact with in the past, I wanted to let > you know that the name remains > the same but the server is different, that is: > > Specreatmusicepp@mindspring.com has been changed over to > > Specreatmusicepp@verizon.net > > If you should have trouble with my email, you can send it to my husband's > and he will forward it to my computer. > > deppich@verizon.net > > In going through www.google.com tonight, trying to delve deeper into my > Bleakney and George families, I realized that > I have missed several messages which were sent to this list regarding these > families and others listed below. > > I am sorry that I didn't think to check there before. We take my husband's > laptop with us and I thought that we were receiving all of the email, > including answers sent to the lists, but evidently that hasn't always > happened. We will be > leaving again before Christmas to be with family and those little grand > daughters and will return late in January just > after their birthdays. > > I am still working at getting my information into GEDCOM format so that I > can share it with any who needed my info. > I spend a lot of time doing it, but then often get myself tangled with the > advancing technology and too many things > on the computer, that are tying up its memory capabilities. I wish my > computer skills would advance as quickly as > the amount of online information increases. Hope to have it done before our > trip, so that I can take discs with me, instead of suitcases full of records > and references. I know that my husband would surely appreciate it! > > My families that I am searching for are primarily in Plumcreek Twp and South > Bend Twp in Armstrong counties and > Armstrong Twp, Mahoning Twp. in Indiana county. > RALSTON - David and Margaret SHARP, her first cousin once removed, Nancy > Agnes SHARP RALSTON MITCHELL > and James S. RALSTON and Marie Antoinette BLEAKNEY, daughter of Hannah > GEORGE and William BLEAKNEY > 1806-1865. > Hannah GEORGE is a tremendous mystery, probably born about 1812 in PA and > died after 1880 census and she or > someone fibbed about her age. From 1850 onwards to 1880, she only aged 22 > years! Who does she belong to. > > And WHERE did the BLEAKNEY siblings of "Nettie" Bleakney settle? They md. > William Patton, {Isabelle}, Robert McManus, a Mr. Craven, and a Ruben > Farren, {Elizabeth - but the one in Washington Twp. seems to be too young?} > Hannah George Bleakney is missing in the 1870 census and was possibly living > with one of her daughters. In the 1880 census she is ill and living with > James S. and Nettie Ralston They also had a brother Robert, born 1847 that > I would > like to find out about. Did he marry? > > Again, thanks to all of you who answered previous questions about these > families? Hopefull, we will get it figured out some day. On a positive > note, I did find out the where-abouts of Fergus Bleakney in the 1810 and > 1820 census by going through each page of the census. He and his family are > in Mahoning Twp. and in the 1840 census there is a Mary Bleakney living in > Washington Twp, Indiana county, PA who is elderly. She could be his second > wife Mary Wachob. But much more information and documentation is needed. > They were the parents of my William Bleakney, father of my Nettie. > > In regards to Fergus Bleakney's marriages. His first wife was Julia Ann Cox > {the spelling is more like Julyan or Julian) > in Franklin county and this last July when in Chambersburg , .I found her > father's will in which her death is mentioned. > We brought home stacks of zeroxed papers and I don't have that in my > computer records yet. But this seemed to verify > that Mary Wachob was the mother of William and any later children. Will > forward exact reference as I get to that record. > > Hope your Thanksgiving and Christmas Time will be blessed with good health, > peace and safety, and good friends. > > Susan and Dave Eppich > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

Hello again, We have been home again long enough to change our phone service and computer ISP, so that we can have DSL, or the super fast service, for my husband's computer needs and my GEN seaching. Any of you that I have been in contact with in the past, I wanted to let you know that the name remains the same but the server is different, that is: Specreatmusicepp@mindspring.com has been changed over to Specreatmusicepp@verizon.net If you should have trouble with my email, you can send it to my husband's and he will forward it to my computer. deppich@verizon.net In going through www.google.com tonight, trying to delve deeper into my Bleakney and George families, I realized that I have missed several messages which were sent to this list regarding these families and others listed below. I am sorry that I didn't think to check there before. We take my husband's laptop with us and I thought that we were receiving all of the email, including answers sent to the lists, but evidently that hasn't always happened. We will be leaving again before Christmas to be with family and those little grand daughters and will return late in January just after their birthdays. I am still working at getting my information into GEDCOM format so that I can share it with any who needed my info. I spend a lot of time doing it, but then often get myself tangled with the advancing technology and too many things on the computer, that are tying up its memory capabilities. I wish my computer skills would advance as quickly as the amount of online information increases. Hope to have it done before our trip, so that I can take discs with me, instead of suitcases full of records and references. I know that my husband would surely appreciate it! My families that I am searching for are primarily in Plumcreek Twp and South Bend Twp in Armstrong counties and Armstrong Twp, Mahoning Twp. in Indiana county. RALSTON - David and Margaret SHARP, her first cousin once removed, Nancy Agnes SHARP RALSTON MITCHELL and James S. RALSTON and Marie Antoinette BLEAKNEY, daughter of Hannah GEORGE and William BLEAKNEY 1806-1865. Hannah GEORGE is a tremendous mystery, probably born about 1812 in PA and died after 1880 census and she or someone fibbed about her age. From 1850 onwards to 1880, she only aged 22 years! Who does she belong to. And WHERE did the BLEAKNEY siblings of "Nettie" Bleakney settle? They md. William Patton, {Isabelle}, Robert McManus, a Mr. Craven, and a Ruben Farren, {Elizabeth - but the one in Washington Twp. seems to be too young?} Hannah George Bleakney is missing in the 1870 census and was possibly living with one of her daughters. In the 1880 census she is ill and living with James S. and Nettie Ralston They also had a brother Robert, born 1847 that I would like to find out about. Did he marry? Again, thanks to all of you who answered previous questions about these families? Hopefull, we will get it figured out some day. On a positive note, I did find out the where-abouts of Fergus Bleakney in the 1810 and 1820 census by going through each page of the census. He and his family are in Mahoning Twp. and in the 1840 census there is a Mary Bleakney living in Washington Twp, Indiana county, PA who is elderly. She could be his second wife Mary Wachob. But much more information and documentation is needed. They were the parents of my William Bleakney, father of my Nettie. In regards to Fergus Bleakney's marriages. His first wife was Julia Ann Cox {the spelling is more like Julyan or Julian) in Franklin county and this last July when in Chambersburg , .I found her father's will in which her death is mentioned. We brought home stacks of zeroxed papers and I don't have that in my computer records yet. But this seemed to verify that Mary Wachob was the mother of William and any later children. Will forward exact reference as I get to that record. Hope your Thanksgiving and Christmas Time will be blessed with good health, peace and safety, and good friends. Susan and Dave Eppich

Tom I had this site in my FRANTZ file. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/r/a/William-R-Frantz-PA/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0070.html Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <tomchapman@adelphia.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:35 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] France/Frantz South Bend, South Buffalo, PA > Anybody here familiar with the Frantz/France family of South Bend? > > I'm trying to track down the son of John Frantz and Maria Klingensmith - Jacob Frantz/Franz/France. I've got him tentatively married to either a cousin Catherine Frantz, also known as Catherine Kiehner/Keener Frantz. She is in the 1850 South Buffalo Census, but no sign of Jacob. I've also got information that places his death in Missouri. > > Best Regrads, > > Tom > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

Anybody here familiar with the Frantz/France family of South Bend? I'm trying to track down the son of John Frantz and Maria Klingensmith - Jacob Frantz/Franz/France. I've got him tentatively married to either a cousin Catherine Frantz, also known as Catherine Kiehner/Keener Frantz. She is in the 1850 South Buffalo Census, but no sign of Jacob. I've also got information that places his death in Missouri. Best Regrads, Tom

Greetings. I am looking for Trump surname researchers in Armstong Co. Thank you Bernie

Hi Jim, Thanks so much. At least this gives me the family of Joseph Holder. Thanks again, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jgw@direcway.com> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Holder help > > --Boundary_(ID_vf05UKOed4aDnZDt5O03RQ) > Content-type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-76154153; charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > At 10:38 AM 11/9/2003, you wrote: > > >I am trying to find the children of William Holder born Abt. 1792 & his > >1st wife, Mary Watterson born 3/25/1789 who died sometime between > >1830-1840. They lived in Sugarcreek Twp., Armstrong Co. PA. I know they > >had a daughter Susan born Abt. 1816 & I think Joseph born > >1829-1830. William later married Prudence born Abt. 1805 before 1850. > > Hi Gloria, > > I realize this is not going to be much help but here is what I have on > these Armstrong County HOLDERs. It only includes the family of the son > Joseph. His daughter-in-law "Mamie" LYNCH was my g-grandaunt. > > Jim Wise > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1-Joseph HOLDER > b: abt 1830 > sp-Susannah > b: abt 1830 > 2-Martha HOLDER > b: abt 1865 > 2-Nancy E. HOLDER > b: abt 1869 > 2-Joseph Armstrong HOLDER > b: 8 Feb 1873 in PA > d: 14 Dec 1955 > sp-Mary Eliza "Mamie" LYNCH > b: 15 Feb 1879 in Rouseville, Venango Co., PA > m: 30 Apr 1902 in Mt. Pleasant, Armstrong Co., PA > d: Jun 1980 > 3-Mary Ethel HOLDER > b: abt 1904 in PA > 3-Helen HOLDER > b: abt 1906 in PA > 3-Walter James HOLDER > b: 15 Apr 1910 in PA > 3-Margaret HOLDER > b: abt 1914 in PA > 3-Charlotte HOLDER > b: 21 Nov 1916 > d: 14 Nov 1957 > > --Boundary_(ID_vf05UKOed4aDnZDt5O03RQ)-- > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

--Boundary_(ID_vf05UKOed4aDnZDt5O03RQ) Content-type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-76154153; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 10:38 AM 11/9/2003, you wrote: >I am trying to find the children of William Holder born Abt. 1792 & his >1st wife, Mary Watterson born 3/25/1789 who died sometime between >1830-1840. They lived in Sugarcreek Twp., Armstrong Co. PA. I know they >had a daughter Susan born Abt. 1816 & I think Joseph born >1829-1830. William later married Prudence born Abt. 1805 before 1850. Hi Gloria, I realize this is not going to be much help but here is what I have on these Armstrong County HOLDERs. It only includes the family of the son Joseph. His daughter-in-law "Mamie" LYNCH was my g-grandaunt. Jim Wise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-Joseph HOLDER b: abt 1830 sp-Susannah b: abt 1830 2-Martha HOLDER b: abt 1865 2-Nancy E. HOLDER b: abt 1869 2-Joseph Armstrong HOLDER b: 8 Feb 1873 in PA d: 14 Dec 1955 sp-Mary Eliza "Mamie" LYNCH b: 15 Feb 1879 in Rouseville, Venango Co., PA m: 30 Apr 1902 in Mt. Pleasant, Armstrong Co., PA d: Jun 1980 3-Mary Ethel HOLDER b: abt 1904 in PA 3-Helen HOLDER b: abt 1906 in PA 3-Walter James HOLDER b: 15 Apr 1910 in PA 3-Margaret HOLDER b: abt 1914 in PA 3-Charlotte HOLDER b: 21 Nov 1916 d: 14 Nov 1957 --Boundary_(ID_vf05UKOed4aDnZDt5O03RQ)--

I am trying to find the children of William Holder born Abt. 1792 & his 1st wife, Mary Watterson born 3/25/1789 who died sometime between 1830-1840. They lived in Sugarcreek Twp., Armstrong Co. PA. I know they had a daughter Susan born Abt. 1816 & I think Joseph born 1829-1830. William later married Prudence born Abt. 1805 before 1850. I am also trying to figure out who daughter, Susan married. Someone thought she married Robert Platt but all I can find is a Robert Platt born 1800-1810 living in Toby Twp., Armstrong Co.PA in 1840 with female age 20-25, 2 males under age 5 & 2 females age 5-10. Then in 1860 there is a Susan Platt age 44 a widow living with daughter Sarah E. Platt age 8 in Perry Twp; Clarion Co. PA. Here's hoping someone knows this family. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, Gloria Weiss

Listers: Is anyone researching this couple? They were Nellie WILMOT of Apollo, Armstrong Co. PA, and Harry L. RIBLET, b. 1867, Mercer Co., PA. Harry was employed by the Allegheny Steel and Iron Co. of Brackenridge, PA. This couple had six known children: Mildred; Pauline; Olivette; Blanche; John; and Jeanette. If anyone connects to this line, would very much like to hear from you about a possible connection to my Richard WILMOT and Margaret ANDRUS line from Armstrong Co., PA. Marybeth Corrigall ACMBJC@aol.com

List, Once again I have the pleasure of announcing that my Roll Call Mania Web Page has once again been updated with ALL of the submissions that have been sent to me thus far. For those of you keeping track, I have added 200 new submissions since my last update on September 1, 2003, bringing our grand total up to 3,779 Pennsylvania Surname Listings. Once again the direct URL for Roll Call Mania is: http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall For those of you who may be NEW to this list, Roll Call Mania is a web page that is maintained by yours truly (Mickey Cendrowski), with web space generously given to me by our Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, list owners. (Thank You, Nate and Alice). This is a permanent web page, which lists surnames, by counties in Pennsylvania, with direct email to those who are researching those names. Hopefully this site will help YOU find a connecting cousin or two. There is NO charge to add your surnames to this list. All I ask is that you submit your surnames directly to me, using the following format: SURNAME (in caps), County, State (must be PA), Your First Name, Your Email Address For example: BREWER, Westmoreland, PA, Mickey 74bug@nauticom.net Again, PLEASE use the above format when sending me your submissions as it does make it easier to add your names to the listing correctly. Also, PLEASE remember to send your requests DIRECTLY to me at 74bug@nauticom.net. Enjoy! Mickey 74bug@nauticom.net Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall Mickey's Pennsylvania Genealogy Help Page http://www.mickey.150m.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

Hi Gretchen: I think you're going to have to write letters. Start with the county you think they lived and start spreading out if you don't get lucky the first time. You can get addresses at <vitalrec.com>. When you get there scroll down to the state and that should take you to the counties where the marriage records would be. In case you don't know, ask for the marriage application since that's where the genealogical information would be. Someone was suggestion to ask for the entire marriage file because you might be information about a previous marriage. You might try that. Good luck.... and don't give up! Blessings, Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gretchen" <gretchenb@adelphia.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Marriage Cert- Reed- Cramer > Hi List, > I just received a marriage date for my grandfather's 2nd marriage but I don't know where it took place. The marriage took place Oct. 27,1921 and it was between Alexander REED & Bessie CRAMER. In 1920 his 3 children were living with their grandmother Elizabeth Hoover in White Township, Indiana County so I would think he was in that general area at the time. At some point he wound up in Millwood, Derry and other small towns so I'm not sure which county would cover this marriage. I also know he had a third marriage that took place around 1931-32 to Ruth AUEN or MILLER. One of those is her married name , the other her maiden, not sure which. At this point he was in the area covered by the Derry Area HS because all his children went there through highschool. They lived a ways from the school because they took a car (probably they were not licensed) to school. > Any ideas on how I could get either of these marriage records? > Thanks, > Gretchen > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

Hi List, I just received a marriage date for my grandfather's 2nd marriage but I don't know where it took place. The marriage took place Oct. 27,1921 and it was between Alexander REED & Bessie CRAMER. In 1920 his 3 children were living with their grandmother Elizabeth Hoover in White Township, Indiana County so I would think he was in that general area at the time. At some point he wound up in Millwood, Derry and other small towns so I'm not sure which county would cover this marriage. I also know he had a third marriage that took place around 1931-32 to Ruth AUEN or MILLER. One of those is her married name , the other her maiden, not sure which. At this point he was in the area covered by the Derry Area HS because all his children went there through highschool. They lived a ways from the school because they took a car (probably they were not licensed) to school. Any ideas on how I could get either of these marriage records? Thanks, Gretchen

Bernadette do you have any MASSEY connections--Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Winstead" <charlesandbelinda@sbcglobal.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] BOWSER, BAKER, BECKER > Hi, > > I am new to your list. The names that I am researching are Quigley Samuel Bowser b 27 Aug 1867. His father was Valentine Bowser and mother was Mary Ann (I am not certain what her maiden name was). In 1894 or 1895 he married Ida Ann Baker b 3 Sept 1874. Her father was Benjamin Baker and mother was Sarah Becker. He died 24 Jan 1953 and she died 6 Nov 1957. They were my Great-grandparents. According to their Death Certificates, they were both born in Kittaning, Pa. > > I am wondering if any one has connections to Benjamin Baker or Sarah Becker. I found (I think) Sarah in the 1880 census living in Kittaning, but not Benjamin. Her occupation was Dress Maker and from what I've heard my Mom say, Ida was a seamstress, so it would stand to reason to me that her Mom passed that on to her. However, I did not find Ida with Sarah in the census. I thought mayby Benjamin had died by 1880, but I would like to know where Ida was. Thanks for any information anyone can provide. > > Bernadette > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

Patty Caldwell, Please contact me off the list, I lost your e-mail address. Beth Caporali