In the 1850 Wayne Township Armstrong County Census, Adam Rupp is living with wife Rosena, and his father Christopher is living with them. I can only find two Adam Rupp's in the 1860 Armstrong County Census. One is over 70 and the other is over 40 - 42, I think. There is one George Rupp listed in the Wayne Township, Armstrong County Census, in 1860, with wife Mary, and no Adam listed under him. If Adam Rupp, age 18, enlisted in 1861, was Adam his first name? In the cemetery, the Civil War Marker for Adam is beside a Nathaniel Rupp who was also in the Civil War, and has no date on it,. Fifteen or so feet from this marker for Adam, is Adam Rupp, married to Rosena, with their stone. It is still somewhat puzzling. I think the muster papers will probably settle the issue.

http://members.tripod.com/~ProlificPains/78thPaCemetery.htm There might be our answer, folks. First stone on the page. Melissa Strobel

In a message dated 1/7/04 1:18:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, jaclin@usachoice.net writes: I am inclined to believe it is the same Adam Rupp. Since, I have not seen a lot of sources on this, except for the Umbaugh one, and the ones copied to the different sites all reference him. No one seems to have done any additional verification. I have found many times, one source does not make it fact. Linda This is my current reasoning: Not to step on any ancestors' memory or recollection (least of all in my own family), but I find the 1861 date to be inaccurate. The 78th didn't muster in until October of 1861. They were then assigned to Louisville, KY in the middle of that month where they stood railroad duty until December. While it's quite possible for Adam to have contracted a disease and die in two months' time, or died by an accident of some form, I haven't seen any commentary to indicate so. Railroad duty was for the most part uneventful for most units. I'm currently contacting someone with more immediate knowledge of this unit to see if they have any further sources that would tell me otherwise. Skipping ahead to 1864, the 78th was in late September shuffled down to Decatur, Alabama to participate in Sherman's March, then back up to Tennessee, with various minor actions in between. There was ample opportunity for one in this unit to have been wounded or taken ill throughout this period, and quite likely was relegated to a hospital to recover if this were the case. Since Bates not only gives a specific date for his death, but also a location consistent with the unit's location at the time,(Tenn.), plus there are no other primary documents stating anything to the contrary, or any names that could have been confused with his, I have to be inclined to go with Bates. Your mileage may vary. Sad thing is, in October of 64, the veterans of this unit (which would include Adam) were given their discharge orders, and would be mustered out of duty in Pittsburgh in November. He almost made it. The only tiebreaker that I can see is to get his file from NARA. Thus far I've only run across one Adam Rupp in any of the muster lists of Pennsylvania, so unless the file was damaged/destroyed, it should give the details needed to come to a final conclusion.

I am inclined to believe it is the same Adam Rupp. Since, I have not seen a lot of sources on this, except for the Umbaugh one, and the ones copied to the different sites all reference him. No one seems to have done any additional verification. I have found many times, one source does not make it fact. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Drkfell@aol.com> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Re: PAARMSTR-D Digest V04 #3 > In a message dated 1/7/04 11:12:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Chuck4306@aol.com writes: > According to a history of the Rupp family put together in 1965 by Myron B. > Umbaugh, son-in-law of William A. Rupp who in turn was a grandson of the > Adam > Rupp you are referring to, Adam Rupp, husband of Rosannah Hartzell, died in > 1861 which would indicate that he would not have died in Tennessee in the > Civil > War. > Yes, but did he list what his source was for this conclusion? If it was > simply by virtue of his headstone, I'm inclined to disbelieve the book and go with > the record stating his death was in Tennessee. The military headstones were > notoriously inaccurate at times. > > Melissa Strobel > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

In a message dated 1/7/04 11:12:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, Chuck4306@aol.com writes: According to a history of the Rupp family put together in 1965 by Myron B. Umbaugh, son-in-law of William A. Rupp who in turn was a grandson of the Adam Rupp you are referring to, Adam Rupp, husband of Rosannah Hartzell, died in 1861 which would indicate that he would not have died in Tennessee in the Civil War. Yes, but did he list what his source was for this conclusion? If it was simply by virtue of his headstone, I'm inclined to disbelieve the book and go with the record stating his death was in Tennessee. The military headstones were notoriously inaccurate at times. Melissa Strobel

According to a history of the Rupp family put together in 1965 by Myron B. Umbaugh, son-in-law of William A. Rupp who in turn was a grandson of the Adam Rupp you are referring to, Adam Rupp, husband of Rosannah Hartzell, died in 1861 which would indicate that he would not have died in Tennessee in the Civil War. Chuck

Is anyone researching this line? I am wondering if Adam Rupp married to Rosena Hartzell was the Pa. Volunteer who died in the Civil War in Tennessee. He was from Armstrong County, and is buried in the Jerusalem Lutheran Cemetery. This is not one of my lines, but am asking, for more information, for a friend, so that he may send to NARA. Thanks so much. Linda

Fighters At The Fort: Do you know which brave men defended settlers who were protected by Fort Crawford (near New Ken's Ft. Crawford Elementary)? It was one of the furthermost remote outposts on the American frontier. Ensign Coleman, Billy Brady, Captain Samuel Brady, Major Daniel Brodhead, Captain Thomas Campbell, Colonel James Carnahan, Colonel William Crawford, Captain Irwin, Lieutenant Lawrence Harrison, Brigadier-General Lachlan McIntosh, Captain Samuel Moorhead, Captain Thomas Beal, David Redick, William Ross, and Captain Thomas Stokely all served or presided over Ft. Crawford in the 1770-1792 era. Some of these men, such as Major Brodhead and Captain Brady, are today well-regarded Revolutionary War heroes. Others, such as James Carnahan, were simply local farmers who pitched in to defend their homes and families. This article was taken out of a local mailer. The name is Alle-Kiski today and sometimes there is some very usful information for Genealogists in the section titled "our Local Heritage" Website address is: http://www.alle-kiskitoday.com/index.shtml and you can subscribe online to the newsletter, free

Please advise procedure for having our email address deleted from list. The genealogist in this family died recently and there is not longer a need to continue to receive your information. Thank you. Reed rrbj@tni.net

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How do I contact Nate and Alice of Armstrong County? Thanx. Kerm Mickey Cendrowski wrote: > > List, > > Once again I have the pleasure of announcing that my Roll Call Mania Web Page has once again been updated with ALL of the submissions that have been sent to me thus far. > > For those of you keeping track, I have added 116 new submissions since my last update on December 1, 2003, bringing our grand total up to 4,023 Pennsylvania Surname Listings. > > Once again the direct URL for Roll Call Mania is: > > http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall > > For those of you who may be NEW to this list, Roll Call Mania is a web page that is maintained by yours truly (Mickey Cendrowski), with web space generously given to me by our Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, list owners. (Thank You, Nate and Alice). > > This is a permanent web page, which lists surnames, by counties in Pennsylvania, with direct email access to those who are researching those names. > > Hopefully this site will help YOU find a connecting cousin or two. > > There is NO charge to add your surnames to this list. > > All I ask is that you submit your surnames directly to me, using the following format: > > SURNAME (in caps), County, State (must be PA), Your First Name, Your Email Address > > For example: > > BREWER, Westmoreland, PA, Mickey 74bug@nauticom.net > > Again, PLEASE use the above format when sending me your submissions as it does make it easier to add your names to the listing correctly. > > Also, PLEASE remember to send your requests DIRECTLY to me at 74bug@nauticom.net. > > Happy New Year! > > Mickey > 74bug@nauticom.net > > Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page > http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall > > Mickey's Pennsylvania Genealogy Help Page > http://www.mickey.150m.com > > Mickey's Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027 > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

I'm sorry for your loss. the address is PAARMSTR-L-request@rootsweb.com send with only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. Wendy Temple ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reed and Betty Jane Garcia" <rrbj@tni.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Unsubscribe > Please advise procedure for having our email address deleted from list. The genealogist in this family died recently and there is not longer a need to continue to receive your information. Thank you. > Reed rrbj@tni.net > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

List, Once again I have the pleasure of announcing that my Roll Call Mania Web Page has once again been updated with ALL of the submissions that have been sent to me thus far. For those of you keeping track, I have added 116 new submissions since my last update on December 1, 2003, bringing our grand total up to 4,023 Pennsylvania Surname Listings. Once again the direct URL for Roll Call Mania is: http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall For those of you who may be NEW to this list, Roll Call Mania is a web page that is maintained by yours truly (Mickey Cendrowski), with web space generously given to me by our Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, list owners. (Thank You, Nate and Alice). This is a permanent web page, which lists surnames, by counties in Pennsylvania, with direct email access to those who are researching those names. Hopefully this site will help YOU find a connecting cousin or two. There is NO charge to add your surnames to this list. All I ask is that you submit your surnames directly to me, using the following format: SURNAME (in caps), County, State (must be PA), Your First Name, Your Email Address For example: BREWER, Westmoreland, PA, Mickey 74bug@nauticom.net Again, PLEASE use the above format when sending me your submissions as it does make it easier to add your names to the listing correctly. Also, PLEASE remember to send your requests DIRECTLY to me at 74bug@nauticom.net. Happy New Year! Mickey 74bug@nauticom.net Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://www.pa-roots.com/~rollcall Mickey's Pennsylvania Genealogy Help Page http://www.mickey.150m.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

The various Bricker families in the U.S. and Canada today descend from immigrants of different faiths who arrived here from Switzerland, Germany, France, Britain, and Eastern Europe. Some of us know who those immigrants were by having either inherited or created our own family trees on paper, sometimes stretching our family origins back as far as to the 1500s. Others among us are aware of our Bricker roots only going back as far as parents or grandparents. By taking advantage of recently-affordable technology, however, together we can now help clarify our roots by having scientists read the genetic record that half of us carry within us, in our Y-chromosome DNA. Just like the Bricker last name, an exact or nearly exact copy of a man's "Y" chromosome is passed on, generation after generation from father to son. In that way, a male Bricker living today may have a "genetic signature" unchanged or very little changed from that which his direct Bricker ancestors had hundreds of years ago. And there's a very high likelihood that men who today share both the same last name and the same or similar genetic signature also share the same ancestor from some point in the past. By submitting a small sample of his Y-chromosome (no needles or blood sample necessary!) for analysis to a lab specializing in "genetic genealogy", men over 18 years old who were born with the Bricker surname can participate in this Project, to track Bricker family lines by finding out which among us share common ancestors and genealogies. While only Bricker men may directly contribute a sample of their Y-chromosome for use in this project, your help is also very much needed if you are married to such a Bricker, or have a living brother, father, son, or paternal grandfather, uncle, or male first cousin who is a Bricker by birth. Please pass on this email message to him, and encourage his participation if the Project goals interest you. In fact, you may want to forward this email to any of your Bricker relatives who you think might be interested, and encourage them to visit our webpage as well. The more that participate, more use this project will be to everyone participating! For further information on the Project, please visit the webpage at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bricker/index.htm If you are at all interested in pinning down with more certainty who your Bricker ancestors were, and even possibly extending your family line as far back as your European roots, your participation in this BRICKER Surname DNA Project can potentially help you with these goals. Sincerely, Dale Bricker Interim Project Coordinator BrickerDNA@yahoo.com

Hello list: I am looking for someone who lives in the Armstrong Co. area who might be able to look for some information for me. I would like to have information on any EATON's that were in Armstrong Co. in the 1800-1845 time period. Joseph McKEE, son of Andrew McKEE lived in Armstrong Co. (Sugar Creek township) until about 1810 when he no longer appeared on the tax lists. He was in Brown Co., Ohio before 1820. His daughter Elizabeth Eaton McKEE married Thomas HUNTER in 1843 in Brown Co., OH. Joseph McKee was married to Mary ?. I would like to determine if Elizabeth's mother's maiden name might have been EATON. I would appreciate any help concerning this family. Thank you! Ilene

Tom, Although it is true that the area of Armstrong Co was included in Westmoreland Co at that time, supplying a name could help Armstrong Co reseachers see if they have that name in their database. At 03:00 AM 12/22/03, you wrote: >From: "Tom" <tomchapman@adelphia.net> >To: PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Militia > >Dear List: > >I'm researching a Westmoreland ancestor who served in the Cumberland Militia >in 1777. It appears to me that he was living in Hempfield at the time. Is >this possible? Might he have joined earlier while migrating through >Cumberland, and then gone back and forth during periods of service? Of >could there have been a number of men in Westmoreland who comprised a unit >of the Cumberland militia? > >If Westmoreland patriots wanted to serve, what organization would they have >joined? As best as I can tell, there was no local organization, so they >would have to hook up with one in the East. > >Cumberland County then extended as far west as Venango. Did it also >encompass Westmoreland for any period of time, or was it close enough to >envelope Westmoreland patriots? > >Tom > >Please excuse the list overlap, if any.

Hello, Happy holidays to everyone! Is anyone researching the MEDICE family that was in Armstrong Co., PA in the early 1900s? Thanks for your time- Nancy Pressley

I believe JOHN GARDNER BARNHART married an Unknown SAGE around 1890 in Armstrong or possibly Butler County. Is there an online site for marriages in Armstrong County for this time period? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Rose Adams

Dear List: I'm researching a Westmoreland ancestor who served in the Cumberland Militia in 1777. It appears to me that he was living in Hempfield at the time. Is this possible? Might he have joined earlier while migrating through Cumberland, and then gone back and forth during periods of service? Of could there have been a number of men in Westmoreland who comprised a unit of the Cumberland militia? If Westmoreland patriots wanted to serve, what organization would they have joined? As best as I can tell, there was no local organization, so they would have to hook up with one in the East. Cumberland County then extended as far west as Venango. Did it also encompass Westmoreland for any period of time, or was it close enough to envelope Westmoreland patriots? Tom Please excuse the list overlap, if any.

Thanks Fred - That helps a lot. I think I am descended from that early Carnahan family. There are some great Rev. War stories associated with them and the Simpsons. I hope to be able to visit someday. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred H Held" <fhheld@netzero.net> To: <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Boiling Springs > Linda, > > Carnahan Run is in Armstrong Co and flows into the Kiskiminetas River > (Kiski for short) between Riverview and Leechburg. Boiling Spring Church, > I believe, is near the community of Spring Church about 10 miles away. If > you try MapQuest, it shows Carnahan Run originates near Spring Church > (probably at Boiling Spring). I will email the map to you. > > BTW, I spend many a summer wading and swimming in Carnahan Run. > > At 12:00 AM 12/19/03, you wrote: > >From: "Hansen" <hansen8@burgoyne.com> > >To: PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Boiling Springs > > > >Thanks Beth - I am trying to trace my James Carnahan - if I look on a map - > >I think Carnahan Run is near there, too. I am looking at James Carnahan and > >the Simpson and Dickson families - all their properties were supposed to > >adjoin in 1780. Thank you for helping me pinpoint the location. Linda > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >