In a message dated 98-03-06 03:02:02 EST, Darleen_Berens@prodigy.com writes: << The Civil War-1812 pension information posted here came from a set of books entitled "List of Pensioners on the Roll, Jan 1 1883" as called for by Senate Resolution of December 8, 1882. >> Are these listings only for Armstrong County? Would there be a set of these books for other counties as well? Any ideas? Irene Crawford JTJTJ5@aol.com

I have recently received a death certificate on one of my ggrandfathers. On it it indicates that his father was born "on board ship". I'm guessing he was born while his parents were traveling to the United States. Has anyone ever dealt with anything like this before? I'm wondering if such a birth would have been recorded somewhere in the ship's records? In any case, it does seem to be an interesting little tidbit to add to the family's history. Anyone have any ideas how I go about proving (or disproving) this? Irene Crawford JTJTJ5@aol.com

In a message dated 98-03-05 16:27:42 EST, mlmars@juno.com writes: << Address: PA Dept. of Health Vital Records P.O. Box 1528 New Castle PA 16103 >> Please be sure to note that this only applies to those births or deaths that occurred after 1905. Previous to that, one must contact the county courthouse where the birth or death occurred. Most of the ones I have contacted have records between 1893 and 1905 at the courthouse. Irene Crawford JTJTJ5@aol.com

At 10:47 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, > I don't know who is searching for info on the HEILMAN'S but I have >info from my Walker line on Mary COOK who married Abraham HEILMAN. Mary >was the daughter of Margaret WALKER & Samuel COOK. > A great wealth of info can be found on the family in the family >history of "Alexander WALKER I Story" copyright 1982 by Myrtle M. >Cunningham, published by A.G. Halldin Publishing Co., Inc., Indiana, Pa. >15701. > The only problem is I don't know where you can get a copy. You may >find it at the Indiana Co. Historical & Gen. Society. > I would be glad to make copies of the info but all rights are reserved >and No part of the material may be reproduced without written >permission. > Hope this helps >Jackie ======== Jackie, I have a Samuel Cook, born about 1835 in Armstrong County and married Rosana ?. 1880 Armstrong county census shows one infant child. Do you have any dates for your Samuel Cook. Could Rosana have been his first or second wife? Ken T. k.tessendorff@worldnet.att.net Researching HALL & COOK in Armstrong, PA & Modoc, CA CUMMINS & MURDOCK in Calaveras, Colusa & Modoc, CA

Hi, I don't know who is searching for info on the HEILMAN'S but I have info from my Walker line on Mary COOK who married Abraham HEILMAN. Mary was the daughter of Margaret WALKER & Samuel COOK. A great wealth of info can be found on the family in the family history of "Alexander WALKER I Story" copyright 1982 by Myrtle M. Cunningham, published by A.G. Halldin Publishing Co., Inc., Indiana, Pa. 15701. The only problem is I don't know where you can get a copy. You may find it at the Indiana Co. Historical & Gen. Society. I would be glad to make copies of the info but all rights are reserved and No part of the material may be reproduced without written permission. Hope this helps Jackie

My message for the above named digest came with no messages. If others receive messages could someone forward them to me. Thanks gayle gayle1@kansas.net

Hello, This is Mary in Baltimore, MD. My husband is in the military and stationed at Ft. Meade, MD. We both enjoy doing genealogy, and we both have roots in PA. I have been interested in family history since I was a child, and had always heard my family was English, Dutch, and German, but now, I know the names of some of those immigrants! That has been very rewarding for me. But those Campbells and Stoddards of Armstrong Co. are being very elusive for me! I can give you what little I have on Alexander Campbell. I have Alexander Campbell, 35 or 36, living in Brady's Bend, Armstrong Co. with his wife, Mary (Stoddard), 34, daughter Virginia, 12, daughter Lewella, (Lula, my great-grandmother), 10, and his son, Frank, 6 in the 1860 Census of Armstrong Co., Pa. Lula married Lewis V. Forman, my great grandfather. Alexander is also mentioned in a book called, "The History of Armstrong County", Page 570: "It would have been difficult to find in any part of this country a corps of employees more devoted to the interest of their locality or who could show longer terms of service. Among those who for over twenty-five years occupied responsible positions, can be named Mr. Alexander Campbell, whose hand guided the first T-rail rolled west of the Allegheny mountains, and who very appropriately in this centennial year, thirty years from the date of this achievement, assisted at the Edgar Thompson steelworks in rolling the enormous steel rail exhibited at the centennial exposition, measuring 120 feet in length and weighing 64 pounds to the yard; the honorable A.W. Bell, who has just returned for the second time to our state legislature, and Mr. James Keen, whose skillful hand shaped the rolls through whose massive jaws passed the hundred of thousands of tons of rail which have born the iron horse to the remotest section of this country." That is pretty much all I know. I would appreciate any additional info on these families. Any ideas? Thank you. Mary

>Hello all! My name is Duane Leamer. I am originally from Cochranton, PA in >Crawford County, but am now located in Savannah, GA. One of the many names I >am searching is SHRECKENGOST. My grandfather was Norman Lyle SHRECKENGOST who >married Wilda Charlotte BEAN. His father was Vernal Marcellus SHRECKENGOST >who married Donna Elsie COPELAND. Vernal's father was Daniel SHRECKENGOST who >married Eva Mariah MILLER. My grandfather passed away in 1987. Grandma seems >to remember that there may have been a C in SHRECKENGOST, but a family dispute >led to Daniel taking out the C. I am not certain of this, as my grandmother >has no factual info on this. I have heard that it is possible that my >SHRECKENGOST ancestors came from the Armstrong County area. I would really >enjoy gettin more info on this line. I would be glad to share all that I >have. There seems to be a possible connection to John ALDEN, the pilgrim, >... Here is a note I sent on Jan 9 about a similar request. In the past few days people have been asking about Schreckengost familiies in the Armstrong Co area. I was looking through the 1870 Armstrong country census films (1300 and 1301) yesterday trying to find some of my own family and quit counting at 30 heads of housholds. I would venture to say there are well over 50 Schreckengost families in that census area in 1870. Fred Held

Address: PA Dept. of Health Vital Records P.O. Box 1528 New Castle PA 16103 Birth--$4.00 Death--$3.00 If birth or death occurred in: Philadelphia send to Division of Vital Records, 1400 W. Spring Garden St., Room 1009, Philadelphia, PA 19130-4090 Pittsburgh Division of Vital Records, 300 Liberty Ave., Room 512, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 Erie Division of Vital Records, 1910 West 26th St. Erie, Pa. 16508 Scranton Division of Vital Records, 100 Lackawanna Ave., Scranton, PA 18503 Be sure to tell them you are doing genealogy or you may get an abbreviated form. If you don't have a form, include as much information as possible, such as dates, parents include mother's maiden name, spouse, age, place of death/birth, and how many copies you want.. If they have to do an extended search, it could cost you a lot more. You can copy the forms if you have them. I've been there, done that, and learned a lot. Now it's easy (at least in PA). Mary _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Diane, Thank you for your wonderful letter and words of encouragment. I'm at the point of frustration where I could cry. Funny, I haven't tried the LDS centers near here. I'm gonna have to check them out! Thanks again and good luck on your searches. God Bless, Sue ---------- From: Diane Ryder[SMTP:DianeRyder@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 9:28 AM To: INTERNET:sueb@usachoice.net; ADAMS-L-request@rootsweb.com; CATAWBA-WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com; Everyone; FREEMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com; FROST-L-request@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:ADAMS-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:NYSCHOHA-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PACLARIO-L@rootsweb.com; INTERNET:PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] re:Family History Centers Sue--I go to my small local LDS family history center near Columbus, Ohio, and have a Butler County story that is almost unbelievable. I had been searching unsuccessfully for months for gggrandparents, whom I thought had lived in Butler County. Every internet search led to a dead end for some reason. Finally I tried my local LDS center, which is manned by overworked but helpful volunteers. One specializes in finding Irish ancestors, another is very knowledgeable on how to find things through LDS, and the third basically offers encouragement and asks the other two. Some days in there, it is very crowded and hard to get help, but they do the best they can and are very patient with impatient people. Other days, there is no one else there, and I can have the benefit of their undivided attention. One of those days, I mentioned my frustration. One of them suggested I order the soundex for 1880, which would have listed my ggrandmother as a child, and would help me pinpoint the family's location. Bingo! There they were, in Butler County, just as I had thought! At the same time, the encouraging volunteer lady remembered that another woman at the center had been searching the same county, and she thought she was searching that same name. Okay fine, I thought. The chances of that--two people in a small center near Columbus looking for the same ancestors in Butler County, PA.--have to be slim to none. But I thanked her for the tip. The next time I went to the center, I noticed that the lady signing in ahead of me was the same person the encouraging volunteer had told me about. I asked her if she was looking for Butler County, PA (I knew she was because I had seen the microfilms she had ordered, since we share). She said yes, she was. Then I asked her if she, by any chance, was searching the Adams family. She, startled, said yes. Then I asked her if she was searching for ROBERT Adams, and she WAS! As it turns out, she and her 87-year-old mother, in Slippery Rock, had been searching that family since 1945, and in a flash I went from clueless to having access to property and tax records, census records, plat maps, etc., dating back to my gggggggrandfather in 1750! Not only that, they are going to give me copies of their corrrespondence over the years with my line's many cousins! In return, I gave them copies of old family photos and information on my ggrandmother, plus a promise to help them dig. So you never know what you will find, just around the corner. I have found many cousins from my other lines on the internet, including a lady in CA whose mother had taught my mother in a one-room schoolhouse in Jakes Prairie, Missouri, in 1926! Another word about LDS centers. At my local center recently was an elderly lady who had traveled alone from about 1,000 miles away to research her ancestors, whom she thought had come from Ohio. She said she was dying of cancer, and wanted to get her project done before she died. (She was a Mormon herself, making it doubly important to her.) The ladies there were horrified that she had come all that way, since she could have gotten the exact same information back at her own LDS center. She hadn't known that she could order everything she needed, back in her home town. She hadn't had to travel all that way. The point is, ask questions, and keep asking, since that is how we learn. So good luck to you, and success in finding your roots. I have only been doing this for about 8 or 10 months now, and I already have most of my lines traced to 1800, and a few back to 1740. I have 1,100 ancestors and relatives in my database. In the process, I have met hundreds of relatives we never knew existed, not to mention wonderful and helpful strangers. That is what is so wonderful about genealogy. It is the Golden Rule in action! God Bless. Diane in OH searching: Cuffman in MA, NY, PA, OH; Adams in PA; Woolever in PA, NY; Frost in NY; Fish in PA; Garman in PA, OH; Rae and Riddel in Scotland and PA; Jackson in NC, SC, and MO; Ellis in MO; Licklider, Eaton, Bowen, Spurgeon, Wright, and Zinn in MO; Freeman, McGrath, McGowan, Callaghan, Coffey in Ireland and OH; Leichleiter in Germany. ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: mailto:PAARMSTR-L-request@rootsweb.com Click below for the digest list: mailto:PAARMSTR-D-request@rootsweb.com In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe (Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message)

Hi Monette, I found some information on your Elizabeth SCHRECKENGOST and Solomon HEILMAN. Elizabeth was the daughter of Benjamin and Suzanna OURY SCHRECKENGOST. Solomon and Elizabeth's children were: Benjamin Levi Abraham married Mary Cook Mary married Levi G. Cook Katherine married John G. Aye Lewis married Jennie Walker Daniel married Essie Heckman Uriah married Ida Heckman I'm sorry I don't have any dates for these people. Just names. Teresa

Sue--I go to my small local LDS family history center near Columbus, Ohio, and have a Butler County story that is almost unbelievable. I had been searching unsuccessfully for months for gggrandparents, whom I thought had lived in Butler County. Every internet search led to a dead end for some reason. Finally I tried my local LDS center, which is manned by overworked but helpful volunteers. One specializes in finding Irish ancestors, another is very knowledgeable on how to find things through LDS, and the third basically offers encouragement and asks the other two. Some days in there, it is very crowded and hard to get help, but they do the best they can and are very patient with impatient people. Other days, there is no one else there, and I can have the benefit of their undivided attention. One of those days, I mentioned my frustration. One of them suggested I order the soundex for 1880, which would have listed my ggrandmother as a child, and would help me pinpoint the family's location. Bingo! There they were, in Butler County, just as I had thought! At the same time, the encouraging volunteer lady remembered that another woman at the center had been searching the same county, and she thought she was searching that same name. Okay fine, I thought. The chances of that--two people in a small center near Columbus looking for the same ancestors in Butler County, PA.--have to be slim to none. But I thanked her for the tip. The next time I went to the center, I noticed that the lady signing in ahead of me was the same person the encouraging volunteer had told me about. I asked her if she was looking for Butler County, PA (I knew she was because I had seen the microfilms she had ordered, since we share). She said yes, she was. Then I asked her if she, by any chance, was searching the Adams family. She, startled, said yes. Then I asked her if she was searching for ROBERT Adams, and she WAS! As it turns out, she and her 87-year-old mother, in Slippery Rock, had been searching that family since 1945, and in a flash I went from clueless to having access to property and tax records, census records, plat maps, etc., dating back to my gggggggrandfather in 1750! Not only that, they are going to give me copies of their corrrespondence over the years with my line's many cousins! In return, I gave them copies of old family photos and information on my ggrandmother, plus a promise to help them dig. So you never know what you will find, just around the corner. I have found many cousins from my other lines on the internet, including a lady in CA whose mother had taught my mother in a one-room schoolhouse in Jakes Prairie, Missouri, in 1926! Another word about LDS centers. At my local center recently was an elderly lady who had traveled alone from about 1,000 miles away to research her ancestors, whom she thought had come from Ohio. She said she was dying of cancer, and wanted to get her project done before she died. (She was a Mormon herself, making it doubly important to her.) The ladies there were horrified that she had come all that way, since she could have gotten the exact same information back at her own LDS center. She hadn't known that she could order everything she needed, back in her home town. She hadn't had to travel all that way. The point is, ask questions, and keep asking, since that is how we learn. So good luck to you, and success in finding your roots. I have only been doing this for about 8 or 10 months now, and I already have most of my lines traced to 1800, and a few back to 1740. I have 1,100 ancestors and relatives in my database. In the process, I have met hundreds of relatives we never knew existed, not to mention wonderful and helpful strangers. That is what is so wonderful about genealogy. It is the Golden Rule in action! God Bless. Diane in OH searching: Cuffman in MA, NY, PA, OH; Adams in PA; Woolever in PA, NY; Frost in NY; Fish in PA; Garman in PA, OH; Rae and Riddel in Scotland and PA; Jackson in NC, SC, and MO; Ellis in MO; Licklider, Eaton, Bowen, Spurgeon, Wright, and Zinn in MO; Freeman, McGrath, McGowan, Callaghan, Coffey in Ireland and OH; Leichleiter in Germany.

Mary, It appears you forgot the "p" after forquer, mt address is forquerp@worldnet.att.net Paul W. Forquer 1549 Logan Ave. NW Canton, Oh 44703 Tel: 330-452-1892 Fax: 330-452-1893 forquer@worldnet.att.net ---------- > From: Mary L. Mars <mlmars@juno.com> > To: PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] AT&T WorldNet Postmaster <postmaster@worldnet.att.net>: Re: Mail System Error - forquer@worldnet.att.net Returned Mail > Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 10:05 PM > > Paul, what did I do wrong???? > Mary > > --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- > From: AT&T WorldNet Postmaster <postmaster@worldnet.att.net> > To: mlmars@juno.com (Mary L. Mars) > Subject: Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail > Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:30:06 -0500 > Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980304123006.00c10504@proxy.els.att.com> > References: <19980301223650.FIBF20533> > > Your mail was returned to you because forquer@worldnet.att.net is not a > valid e-mail address. Please check with the intended recipient to > determine the correct e-mail address. > > Regards, > Postmaster > > At 12:22 AM 3/3/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Would you please double check. This is the address he has given: > > > > >>Paul W. Forquer > >>1549 Logan Ave. NW > >>Canton, Oh 44703 > >>Tel: 330-452-1892 > >>Fax: 330-452-1893 > >>forquer@worldnet.att.net > > > >On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:36:51 +0000 Mail Administrator > ><Postmaster@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >>--===========================_ _= 7408752(20533) > >>Content-Type: text/plain > >> > >>This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: > >> > >>The following destination addresses were unknown (please check > >>the addresses and re-mail the message): > >> > >><forquer@worldnet.att.net> > >> > >>Please reply to Postmaster@worldnet.att.net > >>if you feel this message to be in error. > >> > >>--===========================_ _= 7408752(20533) > >>Content-Type: message/rfc822 > >> > >>Received: from x17.boston.juno.com ([205.231.100.29]) > >> by mtiwgwc02.worldnet.att.net (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with > >>ESMTP > >> id <19980301223650.FIBE20533@x17.boston.juno.com> > >> for <forquer@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:36:50 > >>+0000 > >>Received: (from mlmars@juno.com) > >> by x17.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RKZ07535; Sun, 01 Mar 1998 > >>17:35:54 EST > >>To: forquer@worldnet.att.net > >>Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Donegal Families Armstrong County, PA > >>Message-ID: <19980227.175415.4687.2.mlmars@juno.com> > >>References: <19980301204804.AAA172@micron> > >>X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 > >>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,10-15,17-130 > >>From: mlmars@juno.com (Mary L. Mars) > >>Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 17:35:54 EST > >> > >>Paul, > >> > >>I am looking for the family of a Mary Cook (1852-1903), buried at > >>Walley > >>Hill, Perry Twp., Armstrong County, married to a John Walley. So far > >>can't find her parents. Anything you might find would interest me. > >> > >>I remember my parents talking about a Forquer family that lived in a > >>town > >>called Hillville or Hillsville (I have heard both, not sure which is > >>correct), not far from East Brady along the Allegheny river (north). > >>Last time I was there, the house was still standing. Sound like a > >>relative? > >> > >>Isn't searching "wonderful"?? > >> > >>Mary > >> > >>On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:47:53 -0500 "Paul Forquer" > >><forquerp@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >>>I read with interest the topic of Armstrong County families from > >>>Donegal. I > >>>recently discovered that my ancestors, Forquer and/or Forker were > >>from > >>>County Donegal, the village of Anagry. I found this in the "At Rest > >>In > >>>These Hills" cemetery listing. I would imagine a lot of immigrants > >>>followed > >>>friends or relatives to a given area. I am beginning a search on > >>>Donegal > >>>immigration and will gladly share information. I am sure there will > >>be > >>>several families that tie together. > >>> > >>>Paul W. Forquer > >>>1549 Logan Ave. NW > >>>Canton, Oh 44703 > >>>Tel: 330-452-1892 > >>>Fax: 330-452-1893 > >>>forquer@worldnet.att.net > >>> > >>>---------- > >>>> From: k.tessendorff@worldnet.att.net > >>>> To: PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L]COOK families-Armstrong County, PA > >>>> Date: Sunday, March 01, 1998 1:34 PM > >>>> > >>>> At 09:01 AM 3/1/98 -0600, you wrote: > >>>> >>Ken, > >>>> >> > >>>> >>I have been looking for the family of Mary Cook, 1852-1903, > >>>buried at > >>>> >>Walley Hill, married to John Walley. Hopefully one of your Cooks > >> > >>>will > >>>be > >>>> >>her parent. Will let you know. > >>>> >> > >>>> >>Thanks, > >>>> >> > >>>> >>Mary > >>>> >> > >>>> >>On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:21:05 +0000 k.tessendorff@worldnet.att.net > >>>writes: > >>>> >>>Is anyone researching these families? William Cook and William > >>>Hall > >>>> >>>both > >>>> >>>came to Armstrong county in the 1830s from Donegal County, > >>>Ireland. > >>>> >>>Most of > >>>> >>>their children were born in Ireland. > >>>> >>>Thank you for your help. > >>>> >>>Ken T. > >>>> > > >>>> >The 1870 W.Pa Census Index (FTM AGLL CD-ROM #285) lists 25 Cook > >>>families > >>>in > >>>> >Armstrong Co. All are on film nunbers 1300 and 1301 available from > >> > >>>the > >>>NARA > >>>> >through your local library or FHC. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >Fred Held > >>>> === > >>>> Hi Fred, > >>>> Thank you for your help. > >>>> I have seen most of the census film and copied all the information > >>>> pertaining to my families. Now I am looking for Bibles, letters, > >>>journals, > >>>> diaries, etc. to put in my second book about these families. Most > >>of > >>>this > >>>> type information would only be held by descendants or others > >>>searching > >>>the > >>>> same families. I know it is difficult to make a connection with > >>>other > >>>> people researching the same family, but the Armstrong county mail > >>>list > >>>> seemed to be the best place to start. > >>>> > >>>> I believe that my William Hall and William Cook were the only > >>>families > >>>with > >>>> these names that came to Armstrong from Donegal County, Irelend > >>>during > >>>the > >>>> 1830s. > >>>> > >>>> Ken T. > >>>> > >>>> k.tessendorff@worldnet.att.net > >>>> Researching HALL & COOK in Armstrong, PA & Modoc, CA > >>>> CUMMINS & MURDOCK in Calaveras, Colusa & Modoc, CA > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >>>> To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > >>>> mailto:impattic@mediaone.net > >>>> remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >>>To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > >>> mailto:impattic@mediaone.net > >>>remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>_____________________________________________________________________ > >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >> > >>--===========================_ _= 7408752(20533)-- > >> > >> > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > > > > > --------- End forwarded message ---------- > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > mailto:impattic@mediaone.net > remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > > > >

Hi y'all, I doubt that you are aware of the problems caused to Rootsweb when a person sends multiple postings. If you,ll think back to Maiser & the awful way that it was hit, ultimately causing the end of Maiser; possibly you can see the damage that can be done when doing multiple postings. Our Beaver County list has about 250 members & if each of the 14 other lists had the same membership, that causes approx 3,500 hits to Rootsweb at one time. I hope that you can realize the damage that can be done. In the future, if you'll just send multiple postings to 2 or 3 lists at a time, it wouldn't be such a burden on our server. I believe that we'd all hate to cause Rootsweb to have the problems that Maiser had. Thanks for your future consideration & happy hunting!! :) :) Patti Caldwell Listmistress, Beaver County Mailing List <impattic@mediaone.net> To: "INTERNET:sueb@usachoice.net" <sueb@usachoice.net>, "ADAMS-L-request@rootsweb.com" <ADAMS-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "CATAWBA-WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com" <CATAWBA-WEST-L- request@rootsweb.com>, Everyone <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com>, "FREEMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com" <FREEMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "FROST-L-request@rootsweb.com" <FROST-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:ADAMS-L@rootsweb.com" <ADAMS-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:NYSCHOHA-L@rootsweb.com" <NYSCHOHA-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com" <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com" <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com" <PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com" <PABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com" <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PACLARIO-L@rootsweb.com" <PACLARIO-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com" <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com>

Hi Diane, I doubt that you are aware of the problems caused to Rootsweb when a person sends multiple postings. If you,ll think back to Maiser & the awful way that it was hit, ultimately causing the end of Maiser; possibly you can see the damage that can be done when doing multiple postings. Our Beaver County list has about 250 members & if each of the 14 other lists had the same membership, that causes approx 3,500 hits to Rootsweb at one time. I hope that you can realize the damage that can be done. In the future, if you'll just send multiple postings to 2 or 3 lists at a time, it wouldn't be such a burden on our server. I believe that we'd all hate to cause Rootsweb to have the problems that Maiser had. Thanks for your future consideration & happy hunting!! :) :) Patti Caldwell Listmistress, Beaver County Mailing List <impattic@mediaone.net> To: "INTERNET:sueb@usachoice.net" <sueb@usachoice.net>, "ADAMS-L-request@rootsweb.com" <ADAMS-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "CATAWBA-WEST-L-request@rootsweb.com" <CATAWBA-WEST-L- request@rootsweb.com>, Everyone <MOGASCON-L@rootsweb.com>, "FREEMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com" <FREEMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "FROST-L-request@rootsweb.com" <FROST-L-request@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:ADAMS-L@rootsweb.com" <ADAMS-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:NYSCHOHA-L@rootsweb.com" <NYSCHOHA-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com" <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com" <PAARMSTR-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com" <PABEAVER-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com" <PABEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com" <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PACLARIO-L@rootsweb.com" <PACLARIO-L@rootsweb.com>, "INTERNET:PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com" <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com>

Yes, both are archived. At present we're working on a way to simplify the process of getting to the archives. You will be notified when the system is operational. You could try the old way of getting the archived messages. Instructions are below: The Rootsweb mailing lists are set up with two directories that you are interested in. The individual messages are in a directory called "latest" that you can access by writing to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com, while the digests are in a directory called "volume97" that you can access by writing to XYZ-D-request@rootsweb.com. In either case, the messages have filenames that are simply decimal numbers, "1" through however many messages have been archived. There might be a few other administrative files that have names that don't follow that pattern. To access the message archives for the XYZ-L mailing list, send a message to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com that has the word archive and nothing else in the subject. To get a list of the messages, with the subject lines, put search subject: latest/* in the body of the message. After a while, you'll get back a message from rootsweb that looks something like this: begin________cut here--------- latest/1:15:Subject: XYZ-L is on line! latest/10:15:Subject: Gwendolyn XYZ d. 1820 KY latest/11:12:Subject: help with XYZ family latest/12:12:Subject: Re: Gwendolyn XYZ d. 1820 KY latest/13:15:Subject: Thomas XYZ m. Charlene ZZZ VA 1740 latest/14:12:Subject: toner latest/15:13:Subject: XYZ family in Kentucky latest/16:15:Subject: Re: toner latest/17:12:Subject: query latest/18:13:How to unsubscribe from this list?????? latest/19:15: Subject: Re: toner latest/2:14:Subject:Re: XYZ-L is on line! latest/20:13:Subject:Re: query etc. ----------------------- Now, let's assume you want to read the messages about Gwendolyn. The file names are latest/10 and latest/12, which is the part of each line up to the first colon. The next number, between the first two colons, is just the line number within the message were the subject line appeared, and the remainder of the line is the actual subject line. To get these two messages, send another message to XYZ-L-request@rootsweb.com, with archive in the subject, and send latest/10 latest/12 in the body. After a while, you'll receive copies of the two messages. They will come just as they were originally sent. If your mailreader sorts incoming mail by the "sent date", you'll have to look back among the old messages in your inbox to find them. If you just want to get all of the archived messages, you can write to XYZ-D-request instead of XYZ-L-request, with "archive" in the subject, and put the following in the body of your request: maxfiles 100 send volume97/* If you don't put the "maxfiles 100" and there happen to be more than sixteen messages in the archive (which is likely), you'll just get an error message. If there are more than 100 messages, you'll still get an error message and will probably want to request the archives piecemeal rather than all at once. If you want to copy this material to your list, changing "XYZ" to the appropriate surname, go ahead. Hope this helps some. Patti Caldwell,Listmistress <impattic@mediaone.net>

In a message dated 98-03-05 09:21:15 EST, Swifthahn@aol.com writes: << He was the minister of St. Paul's German Evangelical Lutheran Church in Millerstown Borough, Butler Co. In 1851 he married Mary Ann ELLENBERGER >> I'm sure I won't be the only one to point out to you that Millerstown is the former name of the town now known as Chicora. I realize Mary Ann was from Armstrong Co., but I grew up is this general area, and Chicora was the location of the elementary school I attended. There were and I'm sure still are lots of Ellenbergers in the area. Irene Crawford JTJTJ5@aol.com

Hi Irene Thank you for the info My Grandparents were born in 1862 and 1866 Sorry I didn't state that earlier. Donna

Hello all! My name is Duane Leamer. I am originally from Cochranton, PA in Crawford County, but am now located in Savannah, GA. One of the many names I am searching is SHRECKENGOST. My grandfather was Norman Lyle SHRECKENGOST who married Wilda Charlotte BEAN. His father was Vernal Marcellus SHRECKENGOST who married Donna Elsie COPELAND. Vernal's father was Daniel SHRECKENGOST who married Eva Mariah MILLER. My grandfather passed away in 1987. Grandma seems to remember that there may have been a C in SHRECKENGOST, but a family dispute led to Daniel taking out the C. I am not certain of this, as my grandmother has no factual info on this. I have heard that it is possible that my SHRECKENGOST ancestors came from the Armstrong County area. I would really enjoy gettin more info on this line. I would be glad to share all that I have. There seems to be a possible connection to John ALDEN, the pilgrim, through Vernal's wife's line - COPELAND. If interested please email me or the list. My research eforts are going to become much easier in June - as we are moving back to PA. Yeah!!!!!! We will live in Erie. I can't wait to do some footwork research, again. Internet resources are great, but there is nothing like doing it yourself and actually seeing places and documents and such. I have a very simple genealogy section on our family website at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8828 Take a look at it if you'd like. I'm quite new to making sites. Please give suggestions. Thanks, Duane E. Leamer leamer@aol.com or duaneleamer@geocities.com

Hello Monette I also found your Elizabeth & Solomon. THis is what I have on them hopefully it will help: Elizabeth was born in Sept. 1808 d. 1901 m. abt 1840 Soloman Hileman b. 15 Jan 1808 d. Dec 1861. Children are: Uriah Oury Hileman b. Sept 23 1853 d. Mar 17, 1930 m. April 7, 1881 Esther Ida Heckman b. Aug 8 1859 d. Oct 24 1916 (my note I have their children if you want) Benjamin J. Hileman b. 1835 d. 1838 Levi J. Hileman b. abt 1837 d. June 18, 1892 Abraham Hileman b. abt 1840 d. 1865 m. Mary Cook b. July 18, 1838 d. Feb 15, 1917 (my note I have one son for them) Mary Hileman b. Oct 26 1842 d. Dec 1921 m. Dec 25 1862 Levi Green Cook b. Oct 26 1842 d. June 5, 1921 (my note I have several children for them) Katherine A. Hileman b. May 1, 1845 d. 1941 m. May 4 1876 John George Aye b. April 14, 1845 d. Oct 16, 1923 ( Ihave children for them also) Lewis Hileman b. Sept 23, 1854 d. Dec 2, 1932 m. Jennie Walker b. abt 1848 d. April 19, 1924 Daniel Hileman b & d young Josiah Daniel Hileman b. Jan 10, 1848 d. 1874 Elizabeth father Benjamin also goes by the name Conrad, Jr. he was born Nov 15, 1788 d. June 19, 1868 his wife Susanna (Sally) Oury/Uhrig/Ourich (this is my family line) was born May 6, 1791 d. 1864. My husband is related to Susanna through her brother Adam Oury line. This information that I have comes from the Mr. Mechling of Butter, Pa You can reach me by Starlene@cross-roads1.com I hope this helps Starlene PA>Hi Monette, PA>I found some information on your Elizabeth SCHRECKENGOST and Solomon HEILMAN PA>Benjamin PA>Levi PA>Abraham married Mary Cook PA>Mary married Levi G. Cook PA>Katherine married John G. Aye PA>Lewis married Jennie Walker PA>Daniel married Essie Heckman PA>Uriah married Ida Heckman PA>I'm sorry I don't have any dates for these people. Just names. PA>Teresa PA>==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== PA>You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: PA> mailto:PAARMSTR-L-request@rootsweb.com PA>Click below for the digest list: PA> mailto:PAARMSTR-D-request@rootsweb.com PA>In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe PA>(Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message)