Hi Brian How are you doing? We had a baby boy, Aaron Harold Lambing, born February 16 and things are getting back to normal, accept work has pick up which is keeping me busy. You wrote, > TJ Shumaker was asking the other day about a James Shields from Adams Co, I > said I would look him up in the Lambing book, but didn't have copies of the > pages on the early years of the Shields. Any help here? > Kathy sent me the pages concerning the Shields Genealogy, in the book, however it will be a while before I get the time to post them to the web site, but if you like, I would be happy to scan them into a gif. file and send to your email, off the list of course? Also the snail mail campaign I sent to Lambing's in France, I received several replies, one of them sent a family tree from Schalbach Moselle France, from 1600's to 1800's, I believe I found Christopher Lambing in it, but under the name Jean Lambing, this Jean Lambing has, as his last surviving son a Pierre Lambing, born on June 25, 1747, in a letter written to Alta Lambing, by her aunt Elizabeth (Lambing) Mellor, writing about John Troxel Lambing death, she wrote that the anniversary of Peter birth was June 29, this Jean Lambing with a son name Pierre, had to living half brother's with the same first name Jean, and several cousins with the same name living in Schalbach (which today is a town of 300 people), so perhaps this Jean went by his middle name, I need to find the time to look at the register. Please let me know if you want copies of the rest of the book, via snail mail, or email? Kind regards Warren -- Lambing Family Genealogy http://pages.prodigy.com/BYRL86A/lambing.htm

Hi all, This is just a reminder to Armstrong County researchers about changing county lines and the formation of counties. This is a situation I often forget about so I thought I maybe should mention it to others. Be careful when you find a family that was in Westmoreland County make a move to Armstrong County. On March 12, 1800, a considerable chunk of Westmoreland became Armstrong County. I have families that did make a physical move from the former to the latter but I also have families whose address changed without a move. And there are a lot of other cases with other counties that are similar. Just something to keep in mind. Jim

If anyone is interested, I have a copy of the "History of the 103rd Regiment Pennsylvania Veteran Volunteer Infantry" which has a picture of the flag. John >C. L. Mateer wrote: > > Because I've had a number of requests for the story of the 103rd flag, I'm > listing it here. I hope it's not too long for the list. I love this story > !!!! Connie M.

Carol, I really could not answer that at this time..as I don't have my Samuel's parents name. Should I find out I will let you know. My Samuel L. Smith served in the "GALLANT 78TH". Pamela

I am in need of someone who has access to the 1850 Armstrong County census to help me with finding my Samuel L. Smith. I am willing to pay for time and copy expenses. I need someone to view the 1850 Armstrong County Census-Plum Creek TWP. I am looking for my Samuel L. Smith who would have been approx 12 years of age in the census. Below is listed the heads of household and the page number of all the possible families that he might be found in. Phillip Smith Page 339 Plum Creek Isaac Smith Page 340 Plum Creek John Smith Page 340 Plum Creek Thomas Smith Sr. Page 342 Plum Creek Benjamin Smith Page 343 Plum Creek William Smith Jr. Page 343 Plum Creek Absalom Smith Page 348 Plum Creek Catherine Smith Page 348 Plum Creek Peter Smith Page 348 Plum Creek George Smith Page 349 Plum Creek James Smith Page 357 Plum Creek William Smith Page 357 Plum Creek Should you find him in one of the above families, I would like to have a photocopy made of the record. Like I said I will pay for this search. Pamela

In a message dated 98-03-11 20:42:46 EST, you write: << By chance, I have a copy of the Lambing Family History and a Shields genealogy. If you are interested, let me know. Jane Cooper >> Jane: How kind of youi to offer to look up info. I am desparately trying to find where my gggrandfather, David S. Anderson came from. I believe he may be related to the Shields in Salem twp. I think the S. in his name is for Shields and that his father may have been married to a Shields. Does your Shields genealogy include info on the Shields in Salem twp. A David Anderson from Ireland was naturalized while living in Salem twp. I will greatly appreciate your assistance with this lookup. My David was born in 1818. He was a licensed ME Church preacher. He moved to Stahlstown and appears on the 1840 census with a wife and small child. Barb

---------- > By chance, I have a copy of the Lambing Family History and a Shields > genealogy. If you are interested, let me know. > > Jane Cooper > Hi Jane - Lambings are one of the families I'm looking for in Armstrong Co, as well as the Guthries. The Lambings are on my wife's side John George Lambing b1802 m Margaret Shirley 1809-1882, Anrdew Lambing b abt 1831 m Mary Felina Rowe b 1837. My wife's line is more Indiana Co, but have many cousins in Armstrong. Are you a Lambing descendant? Even if not, I would be more than happy to share data. Are the Shields you have the one connected with the Lambings, or are they more extensive? I have Shields ancestors in Letterkenny Twp, Cumberland Co, same Twp where Andrew Lambing (who wrote the Lambing book) mother Ann Shields family was from, but I can't find a connection yet. I have David Shields, b simetime around 1700, died after 1773, daughter Jennet m Samuel Culbertson Sr of 'Culbertson's Row' near Chambersburg. There was a Shields genealogy referred to in the 1944 'American Revolution Soldiers of Franklin Co', are you familiar. TJ Shumaker was asking the other day about a James Shields from Adams Co, I said I would look him up in the Lambing book, but didn't have copies of the pages on the early years of the Shields. Any help here? Would like to find a link on either or both of Lambing & Shields Brian Carttwright Manassas Park VA

Pamela, By any chance are you related to Martin Smith from Germany who served with the 103rd PA in the Civil War? He was from Armstrong County, and was the second husband of one of my relatives. Carol Fraser

Susan, By the late 1700's the Indians had been driven from the Armstrong Co. area. Mostly the tribes here were the Delaware and some Shawnee coming up from the southern part of the state, perhaps not quite as far as Kittanning. They were driven on to Ohio and a small number of them are living in Anadarco, OK. There are some great sites on the internet for studying the American Indian History and Culture.

Jim, The first newspaper published in Kittanning was the "Western Eagle" from 1810-1814. The next paper was the "Columbian and Farmers Mechanics Advertiser" from 1819-1831. The Public Library has a few pages of 1819 & 20 of this paper. The public library has some early papers bound beginning in 1825, our Lankerd-Thomas Lib. at Historical Soc. also has these. The deaths and marriages have been abstracted from 1825 through 1844 (with some years missing). The public Library and Hist. Soc. have the earliest newspaper collections in the county. Prior to 1800, Westmoreland Co. has some newspaper records held at their Historical Soc. and Public Library on micro-film. Connie M.

By chance, I have a copy of the Lambing Family History and a Shields genealogy. If you are interested, let me know. Jane Cooper

Further to msg re Indians emigrating from PA to Anadarko. The Delaware of Western Oklahoma are in Anadarko, Oklahoma They moved there basicallyi from Texas after their exodus from the East.. The mainsteam of the Delaware fmoved to Ohio, Indiana, SW Missouri, to Noreast Kansas then to Oklahoma in 1867 where they were placed with the Cherokee. This group is based at Bartlesville OK. They are the Eastern Oklahoma Delaware. Those who remained in Kansas are known as the Kansas (and sometimes "Citizen Delaware" because they became U.S. citizens. They are centered in the Kansas City Kansas area near the old Delaware Preserve. TheWyandot are to the East in Kansas City Kansas and the Shawnee were acoss the Kansas Rive from Kansas ity KS.. The main stream of the Wyandot (Huron) are in Oklahoma, Those who remained in the Kansas City Kansas area are the Wyandot (Hiuron) Nation of Kansas. iThere are also two Delaware nations/tribes who emigrated to Canada. I am not an authority on Delaware History nor on the westward migration and cannot answer questions about genealogy , how to find roll data, etc. This msg is intended only as a brief follow on to the item about the Delaware migrating to Anadarko. Thomas Strong Swifwater Hahn~~~, Acting Principal Chief, Kansas Delaware Tribe oi Indians.

[1] There was no Jonathan Altman in this index. Sorry [2] Montgomery Montgomery, Jane, South Bend, Township, 1877, Vol. 3, p. 208, Estate No. 3468 Montgomery, John, East Franklin Township, 1876, Vol. 3, p. 141, Estate No. 3370 Montgomery, Rachel, Burrell Township, 1888, Vol. 4, p. 372, Estate No. 4638-4686 Montgomery, Samuel, Franklin Township, 1845, Vol. 1, p. 294, Estate No. 675 Montgomery, William, Franklin Township, 1853, Vol. 2, p. 60, Estate No. 1045 Montgomery, William, Burrell Township, 1868, Vol. 2, p. 493, Estate No. 1942 Montgomery, William, Leechburg, 1891, Vol. 4, p. 552, Estate No. 4932 [3] Smith, Charles B., Sugarcreek Township, 1899, Vol. 6, p. 70, Estate No. 6063 Jane Cooper

>Does anyone know anything about Iroquois Indians living in Armstrong Co. in >the early 1800's? I've jus been told by a cousin that my husband's great >great grandmother, Jane Nolder, was a full-blooded Iroquois. I suspect that >it was Jane's mother who was the Iroquois since Nolder is obviously not an >Indian name. Jane's daughter, Nancy Jane McGuire, was born in Freeport and >there were Nolders on the 1820 and 1830 census in Plum Creek Twp. Does anyone >know if Freeport is in Plum Creek twp? Susan Plum Creek Twp is on the other side of Armstrong County. The main settlements in Plum Creek Twp are Elderton and Whitesburg. There was an area nearby that was well known as an Indian settlement, Shelocta, adjacent to Elderton. Elterton and Shelocta are on either side of the Indiana - Armstrong Co border. According to my sister's husband's Sharp family history, Shelocta was known as Sharp's Mill at one time. Fred Held

I think I accidently deleted a response to my post about the Iriqois Indians in Armstrong Co. I got the response from Fred Held. Did anyone else respond? Susan

Fred, Thanks very much for the info. One more clue for my Nolder research. Susan

I want to say thank you to all! I am very excited about my trip! I will post what i have in the next couple of days so that everyone can compare with it. thank you all again I am really delighted! I am subscribed to many newsletters and often don't respond just read! THANKS! Nancy

I have a Catherine RUPP that married Christopher/Stophel Oury/Uhrig/Ourich in abt.1776 Catherine brother name was Francis/Frantz Rupp. They were first in Westmoreland Co. then moved to the Kittanning area. Is this any of your Rupp relations? Starlene PA>Hi all PA>Have many relatives from the county! I am going to Kittanning the end of the PA>month. I am going to do some cemetary searches but was wondering if anyone PA>could tell me if the historical society is open on sat or sun and what i cou PA>possibly find there. Also what is the location of the historical society. I PA>really excited about going and would like to cram in as much as i can with PA>just a weekend visit. It is a 6 hour ride for me and don't get there much. PA>thank you all for your help and sorry this is so long PA>Nancy PA>Researching: PA>Walls,Slagle,Kimmel,Rupp,Bowser,Hollenbaugh,Myers,Wilson,Milliron, PA>Beatty,Stewart PA>==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== PA>To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: PA> mailto:impattic@mediaone.net PA>remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........

Hello, Does anyone know anything about Iroquois Indians living in Armstrong Co. in the early 1800's? I've jus been told by a cousin that my husband's great great grandmother, Jane Nolder, was a full-blooded Iroquois. I suspect that it was Jane's mother who was the Iroquois since Nolder is obviously not an Indian name. Jane's daughter, Nancy Jane McGuire, was born in Freeport and there were Nolders on the 1820 and 1830 census in Plum Creek Twp. Does anyone know if Freeport is in Plum Creek twp? Susan

New hours for the Lankerd-Thomas Gen. Lib at the Arms. Co. Historical Soc. The library will be open the first Sunday each month in conjunction with the McCain House Museum. Hours 12 noon - 4:00 p.m. Beginning, Sunday, April 5. Then April 7 will begin the regular hours, Tue, Wed, Thur: 12 noon - 4 p.m. Holdings: 800-900 Family histories, all census records of Armstrong Co. and some of surrounding; large number of cemetery records, early newspaper abstracts, obits beginning 1970, large number of county histories, ethnic section: American Indian, Irish, German, and a nice volunteer staff !!! Connie M. (volunteer staff) Address: 300 N. McKean St. Kittanning, PA Phone 724-548-5707.