Joyce--we were all praying for you the past week, and wondering how you fared. Glad to know all is well in your house. I'm sure all on the list will understand and tell you to take your time. We all appreciate so much what you do for us. Our prayers are with your neighbors, and will all others dealing with El Nino. Diane in OH

I do belive it is in Fayette county. Near Bellvernon, and Monesson Pa.. But, I could be wrong.At 07:39 PM 3/20/98 -0700, you wrote: >Looking for the county that Perry, PA would fall into? Is it Butler or >Armstrong Co? > >Thanks for the help... > >Maureen > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >To reach archived messages, go to: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/PAARMSTR-L/ > > > > > >

JSGA wrote: > > A very early Good Morning to all of you, > > I have had several requests in the past week or so for full obituaries from > the past postings I have made of obituary extracts from The Leader Vindicator, > New Bethlehem, Clarion Co. I truly hope to be able to provide that > information, however.... > > I live in Albany, GA and was evacuated a week ago Tuesday due to our Flint > River going on a rampage. Everything I own was packed up and crammed into a > Ryder truck, in a scout hall and on a friends carport. Except for the stuff on > the friends carport, everything else has been put back into the house this > week and I still have at least 15 boxes that have not been opened. I would > hope the old issues of the Leader Vindicator are in one of those boxes. Since > there were at least a half dozen people here packing me up that I had never > even seen before, I am hoping those newspapers were not used as packing > material. Ladies, this "forced" spring housecleaning is not the way to go!! > > To make a long story short...the flood waters stopped 4 houses from mine so I > am fine - just weary and a little brain damaged :>) I know I will not > remember who requested what so please, please, please write to me with your > requests again in about a month and perhaps I will have located the > newspapers. I am more than willing to share anything I have with fellow > genealogists...when I find it again. > > My heart goes out to the 500 plus Albany homes that were flooded again (as I > was flooded in 94). Please keep those families in your prayers. > > Joyce Sherry > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > To reach archived messages, go to: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/PAARMSTR-L/ Joyce, I hope the disruption in your life is over and those people who have suffered another damaging episode know they are in my prayers. Take Care. Maureen

Dear Listmembers, My service provider had "highlighted" this as a sight to see. I thought that it was interesting enought to pass it along. It is about headstones that contain information, including genealogy records! Homepage http://www.leif.com/ examples with pictures http://www.leif.com/prod01.htm I would have not "spammed" for if I was able to type all of these out, I would have. Thanks for understanding, Cass

Is anybody doing research on these surnames? Specifically Jacob SHELLHAMMER, b. 2 Jan 1826, d. 15 Aug 1909, lived in Kiski Twp. Armstrong Co., married Annie ASHBAUGH, or John ROSENSTEEL, b. 4 July 1811, d. 28 Jan 1894. They belong to my husband and I'd better start producing some ancestors for him, or he's not going to continue to appear interested when I tell him what I found on my side! <very big grin> Thanks Joan Kunkle Spring Church, PA barval@kiski.net

A very early Good Morning to all of you, I have had several requests in the past week or so for full obituaries from the past postings I have made of obituary extracts from The Leader Vindicator, New Bethlehem, Clarion Co. I truly hope to be able to provide that information, however.... I live in Albany, GA and was evacuated a week ago Tuesday due to our Flint River going on a rampage. Everything I own was packed up and crammed into a Ryder truck, in a scout hall and on a friends carport. Except for the stuff on the friends carport, everything else has been put back into the house this week and I still have at least 15 boxes that have not been opened. I would hope the old issues of the Leader Vindicator are in one of those boxes. Since there were at least a half dozen people here packing me up that I had never even seen before, I am hoping those newspapers were not used as packing material. Ladies, this "forced" spring housecleaning is not the way to go!! To make a long story short...the flood waters stopped 4 houses from mine so I am fine - just weary and a little brain damaged :>) I know I will not remember who requested what so please, please, please write to me with your requests again in about a month and perhaps I will have located the newspapers. I am more than willing to share anything I have with fellow genealogists...when I find it again. My heart goes out to the 500 plus Albany homes that were flooded again (as I was flooded in 94). Please keep those families in your prayers. Joyce Sherry

Mary L. Mars wrote: > > Perry Twp is Armstrong Co. PA, Perry, PA???? > On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:39:26 -0700 Maureen <mbrook@extremezone.com> > writes: > >Looking for the county that Perry, PA would fall into? Is it Butler > >or > >Armstrong Co? > > > >Thanks for the help... > > > >Maureen > > > > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >To reach archived messages, go to: > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/PAARMSTR-L/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: > mailto:PAARMSTR-L-request@rootsweb.com > Click below for the digest list: > mailto:PAARMSTR-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe > (Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message) Mary, Thanks for the quick reply on where to go next when looking for relatives who say they were born in Butler Co. I will take your advice. Why do you say to start looking for another spelling on Miller? This Miller family really has me frustrated and I appreciate any new approaches to take at this adventure... Regards, Maureen

Looking for the county that Perry, PA would fall into? Is it Butler or Armstrong Co? Thanks for the help... Maureen

> > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > mailto:impattic@mediaone.net > remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ Do you have any info on a Sarah Oliver McMillin in your info? She supposedly was the wife of a Daniel McMillen and mother of John McMillen. Thanks SHer Also did Nancy Snow Oliver have a sister Alzina Cordelia Snow Collingwood. Thanks

Doubt if Bradys Bend Armstrong Co. would've ever been part of Butler Co. I'd start checking histories and census of both counties. Armstrong had many Millers. Check other spellings such as Muller.. On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:10:27 -0700 Maureen <mbrook@extremezone.com> writes: >Does anyone know if Brady's Bend was ever part of Butler County. I >have >the John Oliver Miller family and the papers the family has handed >down >through the years has noted that the children, specifically my >grandmother, Susie Miller, was born in Brady's Bend, Butler County. I >looked in the census for Butler County, and Brady's Bend is listed in >Armstrong County only. The family is not in the 1870-1880 census in >Brady's Bend, Armstrong County. I found my gggrandfather, Nicholas >Snow >and family, Nicholas Snow is the father of Nancy Elizabeth Snow >Miller, >wife of John Oliver Miller. > >John was a farmer and had land in the area. Family has said the land >was on both Armstrong/Butler County lines. I wonder how they >enumerated >the census in this case and what I should do next. > >I know some of you are saying go to the Soundex for 1880, but the LDS >library did not have that specific tape for the M's (Miller). Then I >went to 1870 in hopes of find the family there. They should be since >their firs child William George Miller was born in 1866(Oil City, >Venango Co), their second, Randolph was born in 1868 in Butler County, >their third, John Lawrence Miller, in 1870 in Butler Co.and so on. >All >together they had 8 children born in Butler County (I only know the >Township from my ggrandmother, Susie Miller.). > >I sure would appreciate some guidance or information or >advice>>>GRIN<< >I think this is the famous wall people talk of hitting??? > >Just A Rootin' > >Maureen > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > mailto:impattic@mediaone.net >remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Perry Twp is Armstrong Co. PA, Perry, PA???? On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:39:26 -0700 Maureen <mbrook@extremezone.com> writes: >Looking for the county that Perry, PA would fall into? Is it Butler >or >Armstrong Co? > >Thanks for the help... > >Maureen > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >To reach archived messages, go to: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/PAARMSTR-L/ > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Jim Wise wrote: > > At 01:10 PM 3/20/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Does anyone know if Brady's Bend was ever part of Butler County. I have > >the John Oliver Miller family and the papers the family has handed down > >through the years has noted that the children, specifically my > >grandmother, Susie Miller, was born in Brady's Bend, Butler County. I > >looked in the census for Butler County, and Brady's Bend is listed in > >Armstrong County only. The family is not in the 1870-1880 census in > >Brady's Bend, Armstrong County. I found my gggrandfather, Nicholas Snow > >and family, Nicholas Snow is the father of Nancy Elizabeth Snow Miller, > >wife of John Oliver Miller. > > > [snip] > > Maureen, > According the 1870 PA Census Index, Nicholas SNOW, age 37, is on page 41, > roll 1300. That is Bradys Bend Twp., Armstrong Co. There is also a Nicholas > SNOW, age 62, in Perry Twp., which is just north of Bradys Bend Twp. He is > on page 321, roll 1301. Have you checked out these two? > There are other SNOWs in these two townships. On roll 1300, they are on > pages 43, 44, 56 and 82. On roll 1301, they are on pages 317(twice), 318, > 321(again) and 397. > On roll 1301, page 293, there is a John O. MILLER, age 27. That is Perry > Twp. also. On the same page there is a Rudolph MILLER, age 2. They only > indexed children if they had a different last name than the head of > household. I would check this household out if these MILLERs were of > interest. On the same page there is also an Alex MILLER, age 22. > Between 1787 and 1800, this area was part of Allegheny Co. Since 1800, it > has been in Armstrong Co. > > HTH, > Jim > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > To contact Patti Caldwell, Listmistress, click below: > mailto:impattic@mediaone.net > remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ Jim, Thanks for the reply. In the 1870 census, I expected to find John O Miller in Brady's Bend. Is Perry in Armstrong or Butler co? Rudolph Miller was son to John O and Nancy Snow Miller. Alex may have been a brother to John O Miller, but it has been difficult to track such a common last name as MILLER. The Nicholas SNOW family I did get a hard copy of the 1880 and 1870 census. These families were both in Brady's Bend. I wonder about 1860. I am not sure of the Nicholas SNOW in Perry TWP. The N. Snow in Brady's Bend fathers' name was also Nicholas Snow. The age is not right for the father of my Nicholas Snow because he was born in 1819. I read the census of 1870 and my Nicholas Snow to be 57, not 37. You might look closely, I believe this is my Nicholas Snow since his wife is named Rachel. I know my Nancy Elizabeth had a younger brother named George who was at her funeral. There is a George listed on the 1870 as 6 years under his father Nicholas and mother Rachel. The numbers you give for the roll, 1301 is not the same method that is used in the LDS library. What is this numbering system? Is it the number to use when ordering from the National Archives? Many thanks for the great information. I appreciate all your help. Regards, Maureen

At 01:10 PM 3/20/98 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone know if Brady's Bend was ever part of Butler County. I have >the John Oliver Miller family and the papers the family has handed down >through the years has noted that the children, specifically my >grandmother, Susie Miller, was born in Brady's Bend, Butler County. I >looked in the census for Butler County, and Brady's Bend is listed in >Armstrong County only. The family is not in the 1870-1880 census in >Brady's Bend, Armstrong County. I found my gggrandfather, Nicholas Snow >and family, Nicholas Snow is the father of Nancy Elizabeth Snow Miller, >wife of John Oliver Miller. > [snip] Maureen, According the 1870 PA Census Index, Nicholas SNOW, age 37, is on page 41, roll 1300. That is Bradys Bend Twp., Armstrong Co. There is also a Nicholas SNOW, age 62, in Perry Twp., which is just north of Bradys Bend Twp. He is on page 321, roll 1301. Have you checked out these two? There are other SNOWs in these two townships. On roll 1300, they are on pages 43, 44, 56 and 82. On roll 1301, they are on pages 317(twice), 318, 321(again) and 397. On roll 1301, page 293, there is a John O. MILLER, age 27. That is Perry Twp. also. On the same page there is a Rudolph MILLER, age 2. They only indexed children if they had a different last name than the head of household. I would check this household out if these MILLERs were of interest. On the same page there is also an Alex MILLER, age 22. Between 1787 and 1800, this area was part of Allegheny Co. Since 1800, it has been in Armstrong Co. HTH, Jim

Does anyone know if Brady's Bend was ever part of Butler County. I have the John Oliver Miller family and the papers the family has handed down through the years has noted that the children, specifically my grandmother, Susie Miller, was born in Brady's Bend, Butler County. I looked in the census for Butler County, and Brady's Bend is listed in Armstrong County only. The family is not in the 1870-1880 census in Brady's Bend, Armstrong County. I found my gggrandfather, Nicholas Snow and family, Nicholas Snow is the father of Nancy Elizabeth Snow Miller, wife of John Oliver Miller. John was a farmer and had land in the area. Family has said the land was on both Armstrong/Butler County lines. I wonder how they enumerated the census in this case and what I should do next. I know some of you are saying go to the Soundex for 1880, but the LDS library did not have that specific tape for the M's (Miller). Then I went to 1870 in hopes of find the family there. They should be since their firs child William George Miller was born in 1866(Oil City, Venango Co), their second, Randolph was born in 1868 in Butler County, their third, John Lawrence Miller, in 1870 in Butler Co.and so on. All together they had 8 children born in Butler County (I only know the Township from my ggrandmother, Susie Miller.). I sure would appreciate some guidance or information or advice>>>GRIN<< I think this is the famous wall people talk of hitting??? Just A Rootin' Maureen

Does anyone have access to a cemetery listing for the subject church in now Wayne Twp., Armstrong Co.? I would appreciate a lookup for Bryan and McCausland surnames. Thank you. Regards....Ron mailto:mcc533@scsn.net

At 12:22 AM 3/20/98 -0600, you wrote: >Does anyone know if there is a mailing list for Franklin Co, PA? > >Thanks, >Patrick Beltz >pbeltz@juno.com >pbeltz@aol.com Hi ALL: I would like to know, also... Ed Stitt sceptre@airmail.net Researching (B/URKHART), (B/UTLER), (H/ATTON}, (C/OONEY), (H/OWARD), (J/EWELL), (N/EAL), (S/TITT)

Does anyone know if there is a mailing list for Franklin Co, PA? Thanks, Patrick Beltz pbeltz@juno.com pbeltz@aol.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

My gggrandfather, David F. Shaner, of Apollo, Armstrong Co., m. MARTHA JANE OWENS. 1848 -1904. 1850 and 1860 census records for Westmoreland Co., Allegheny Twp., list LAZARUS (b. abt 1822) and ELIZABETH OWENS as parents of Martha Jane. In the same records, living immediately next door, are HUGH (b. abt 1170) and MARTHA OWENS, and I therefore have suspected that they are the parents of Lazarus. Now, however, in WFT, Vol.1 CD, I find a JOSEPH OWENS, b. abt 1781 in Wales, d. 12 June 1876 in Allegheny Twp., Westmoreland Co., and wife Elizabeth. They have children, from abt. 1803 - 1820, as follows: Ellen, Mary, John, Joshua, Samuel, Henry, and LAZARUS, b. abt 1820, d. 16 February 16, 1896, Washington Twp., Westmoreland Co. Could this be my Lazarus? I would appreciate any information or suggestions concerning this Owens family. Thanks very much, Sally Shaner sshaner@alaweb.com

Stewardson Furnace is in Pine Twp. close to the town of Templeton. It isn't a town any longer. It is along Mahoning Creek and the furnace was built for coke in 1851. Operation was suspended in 1880. Two friends and myself just read the tombstones at Stewardson Furnace last year. We haven't gotten back to recheck our work, but perhaps I could help, if you have a name or two. On some maps where it is located at the bend in the Creek, the place is called Dee. Last year for our Gen. Club Quarterly, I abstracted some newspaper articles from the town of Dee. What do you need ? Connie M.

Does anyone no of such a town called Stuartson Furnace? I have relatives from this town from the mid 1800's. I am looking for this town. Can anyone please help? Thanks in Advance, Rich Geib Researching: Campbell and Longstreth families