Point well taken, Eileen. Please also make note that many times the information on Family Tree Maker, Ancestry, and Family Search is wrong, wrong.wrong. I cringe everytime I find one of my ancestor's being given different parents or the wrong children. There is erroneous information on my Worrell, Roley, and Wetzel families on Ancestry.com.and there is not a thing I can do to get it corrected that is why no one should ever take what they see on the Internet as gospel. I consider it to be only clues until I can obtain the documents to confirm those clues. Marilyn; Lake Co., IL; [email protected] ******************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Irwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census : : I blame much of the ignorance on things/places like Family Tree Maker; World : Family Tree; ancestry.com and even rootsweb. Their priorities are selling : products and information and leading the novices to believe that genealogy is : quick and easy. : : Eileen Irwin : Mesa, AZ :
Eileen wrote: > I blame much of the ignorance on things/places like Family Tree Maker; World > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even rootsweb. Their priorities are selling > products and information and leading the novices to believe that genealogy is > quick and easy. I have been doing genealogical research for over 45 years and am definitely no novice, and I give thanks every day of my life for Ancestry.com and Rootsweb. Face it, genealogy IS a lot easier now than it used to be. I notice that you are subscribed to a Rootseb mailing list :-) Ann -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia mailto:[email protected]
Good reply Carol Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census > Maybe you were just born knowing everything, but many of us love this list in > particular because the vast majority of the people on this list have > strengths and weaknesses, and are very, very willing to share with those of > us that are still learning. > > Carol > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >
Yes, Ann, I am subscribed to several rootsweb mail lists. I have been doing genealogy for almost 30 years and have given much, much more information through the lists than I have received. I have text files explaining the census (years and contents), the formation of the counties of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia (years formed and parent counties), early westward migration and expansion, etc. I have "shared" my data including source information and documentation. I hope I have helped many with my posts. Some of those who have not done genealogy prior to the internet have no clue how to do research off the net, including using a map to locate places (cities or towns) or a dictionary (for various terms and definitions) or even an encyclopedia (for historical perspective). You are absolutely correct. It is far easier to post a query on a mail list than to actually do any research for yourself or to latch on to one of the compiled trees and have your "family" go back to 360 A.D. Eileen Irwin Mesa, AZ Ann Avery Hunter wrote: > > Eileen wrote: > > > I blame much of the ignorance on things/places like Family Tree Maker; World > > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even rootsweb. Their priorities are selling > > products and information and leading the novices to believe that genealogy is > > quick and easy. > > I have been doing genealogical research for over 45 years and am definitely > no novice, and I give thanks every day of my life for > Ancestry.com and Rootsweb. Face it, genealogy IS a lot easier now > than it used to be. I notice that you are subscribed to a Rootseb > mailing list :-) > > Ann > -- > Ann Avery Hunter > Richmond, Virginia > mailto:[email protected] > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net
Maybe you were just born knowing everything, but many of us love this list in particular because the vast majority of the people on this list have strengths and weaknesses, and are very, very willing to share with those of us that are still learning. Carol
Greetings! Brush Valley Cemetery ( Washington TWP, Armstrong County , PA ) Source: Cemeteries of Armstrong County, Pennsylvania Compiled by : Carmella Coreetti Shirley As well as a trip to the cemetery a couple of years ago by my wife and myself for a research project on my wife's side of family - ATHERTON, FEATHERSTONE, JOHNS, WAUGH, CUBE. At this time, we find no connection with the below JOHNS. JOHNS, Esther C. 1833 - 1893 w/o Adam C. JOHNS, Adam C. 1825 - 1892 h/o Esther C. Regards, Thomas Allan Wright Sr [email protected] (Western New York State) Researching : WRIGHT - England>Massachussetts>Ontario, Canada>Michigan and New York States with connections of PETERSON, HILL, MacCallum, PICKALE, ROBLIN, WESTON and other associated families.
Can you believe someone doing Genealogy and don't know how to get a state census?
Hello Betty and Eileen: Yes we can believe that doing genealogy and not knowing where to find our family is the same for all beginners!!!!!!We just have to help others to find their family tree and sometimes, just by chance, we find a little bit of information that we were missing and our luck changes. We all hit dead ends in our search and we should all be good neighbors and help each other. From a native of Pennsylvania. Pearl --- Eileen Irwin <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Betty, I can believe someone doing Genealogy > and don't know how to get a > state census. I can believe someone doing Genealogy > and don't know how to get > many other records also. I can believe someone > doing Genealogy and don't know > how to do any research, period. As a matter of fact > I can believe someone doing > Genealogy and thinking that all they have to do is > go on the internet and there > it is.......all done up and ready for them. There > are all kinds out there, > however, there are also beginners and newbies who > are just learning the basics. > > I blame much of the ignorance on things/places like > Family Tree Maker; World > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even rootsweb. Their > priorities are selling > products and information and leading the novices to > believe that genealogy is > quick and easy. > > Eileen Irwin > Mesa, AZ > > Betty Grafton wrote: > > > > Can you believe someone doing Genealogy and don't > know how to get a state > > census? > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Yes, Betty, I can believe someone doing Genealogy and don't know how to get a state census. I can believe someone doing Genealogy and don't know how to get many other records also. I can believe someone doing Genealogy and don't know how to do any research, period. As a matter of fact I can believe someone doing Genealogy and thinking that all they have to do is go on the internet and there it is.......all done up and ready for them. There are all kinds out there, however, there are also beginners and newbies who are just learning the basics. I blame much of the ignorance on things/places like Family Tree Maker; World Family Tree; ancestry.com and even rootsweb. Their priorities are selling products and information and leading the novices to believe that genealogy is quick and easy. Eileen Irwin Mesa, AZ Betty Grafton wrote: > > Can you believe someone doing Genealogy and don't know how to get a state > census? > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net
Please send to: James E. Fowler 2108 Star Crest Lane Richardson TX 75082-4828 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson, Linda (FRTC_NY)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] 1910 Census Look-up > I am looking for census data for the following individuals who were husband > and wife. I would like to know the names of parents and siblings. They > both lived in Armstrong County. Many thanks to anyone who can help. > > Robert STEWART, b. October 6, 1903, d. October 1985, ss # 200-05-7912 > > Margaret STEWART (maiden name HILL), b. June 24, 1908, d. June 1976, ss # > 178-50-2273 > > Linda Watson > Russell Investment Group > > *: (212) 702-7917 > > Fax: (212) 702-7901 > > *: [email protected] > > *: http://www.russell.com > > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 05/31/01
I have the following recent original obits available from the Indiana Gazette. If you are interested in one, please send a SASE to the address below. PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME OR THE LIST! Sonya Stewart 186 47th Street Pittsburgh, PA 15201 Catherine Rachel Toney Adams Robert Paul Barr Raymond Ernest Brink Grey Arthur Buterbaugh, Jr Angelo "Bob" Cardamon Charles Cyrus Claypool Ralph M Cramer Frank R Csanyi William S Davenport Marjorie A Clawson Edwards Ralph Fearon Mary Alice Yeager Flower Donald Eugene Fridley Martha L Dodds Gallagher Raymond H Gatter Leo Grusky Henrietta Wilson Hill Lester W Howell Ruby L Donahue Kiser Daniel L Lamar Grace A Miller Limrick Jack O Marsh Terri Carbaugh McDowell Joseph Metala Sylvia Kay Nichols Miller Steve M "Horsie" Mlinarich Helen Marie Mutchka Janis Ann Yarkowski Petras John Joseph Polenik Teresa A Shafer Porter Rith D Brumbaugh Quinn Eugene F Scanlon Rev. Elvin B Sharp Julia Gormish Sheredy Lester M Snyder, Sr Richard "Dale" Swartz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Hi All ! Can anyone tell me where the Elderton Cemetery is in Plumcreek Township ?? Thanks ! Lisa Strobel [email protected]
Hello to all. I want to ask if ANY of you (including my JOHN/HAWK cousins on the list) have a clue where some of these individuals are buried: Esther (JOHN) HAWK b. 1823(?); d. 1892/1895(?) b. in Armstrong CO. believe she died there also. (Martin JOHN, JR. & Mary CRISMAN/CRISSMAN her parents) married to (first marriage): David HAWK b. 1820 (Armstrong/Indiana Co.?); d. 25 Dec 1876 Indiana Co., PA (George HAWK, Jr. & Elizabeth COLWELL his parents). David HAWK is buried in Cumberland Cemetery name of cemetery is changed now. I do not have ANY idea where any of the others listed are buried. I especially am interested in finding out where Esther JOHN is buried. I had info that states she died in Washington twp., Armstrong CO. ALSO, I am aware that she re-married again after David HAWK died. In fact, her second husband was either her first or second cousin I believe named Martin JOHN (son of John JOHN who I think is the brother to Esther's father, Martin JOHN, Jr.). I have had absolutely NO luck in tracing her gravesite. Of course, I expect that she was buried with Martin JOHN her second husband. If ANY of you have info on this please contact me via the list or privately. Thanks, Melissa Watson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
I have the following original obits available from the Indiana Gazette. If you are interested in one, please send a SASE to the address below. Requests for all of one surname will NOT be honored. This is all about sharing with others. Please be considerate of others! PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME OR THE LIST! All previous requests are going out tomorrow. Sonya Stewart 186 47th Street Pittsburgh, PA 15201 George Blazosky John Blazosky Timothy Lee Bleakney Mary Solo Blehar Harry B Blick Ruth A Daisley Blick Jamie F Block Alberta M Swope Bloom Marian Elizabeth Arfry Bloom Samuel Jordan Bloom Clifford P "Kip" Blose Huetta Mae "Punk" Lydick Blose James H Blose Katherine L Stiver Blose Melzena B Blose Sarah Noelle Blose John P Blough Paul E Blue Agnes Mae Blystone Brenda Louise Blystone Calvin E Blystone Clair D Blystone Franklin E Blystone F Wayne Blystone Helen M Young Blystone Janet Marie Davis Blystone John C Blystone Lilly C Butler Blystone Rebecca I McCurdy Blystone Roselle Tillie Kunkle Blystone Sylvia A Swartz Blystone Emmagean Edwards Boarts Harold J Boarts Scott Boarts Martha J Boatman Mary Bobby Michael Bobby Peter Bobby Carl P Bobick Helen Wingard Bobick Rose Rescenete Bobinets __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Hello Listers: Stay with the program. Here is my tale of good news. Back on May 23rd a post from Nancy in MO caught my attention. On May24th I responded to her query asking for more info. She responded the same day with enough data to convince me that, yes we are cousins with a common GGG Grandfather. On May 26th I mailed her the info she needed to connect the tree. She responded on June 2nd with yes we sure are. The next event was quite exciting! We already had plans to be in North Little Rock for the Mc Family reunion on June 15th, so I phoned Nancy to see if she could meet us on June 14th in Springfield. She responded in the positive. We met for dinner and it was such evening with two hundred years of history involved. To allof you posters-GOOD LUCK-be persistent and end up with as good an experience as I had. Watson Wilson
I am looking for census data for the following individuals who were husband and wife. I would like to know the names of parents and siblings. They both lived in Armstrong County. Many thanks to anyone who can help. Robert STEWART, b. October 6, 1903, d. October 1985, ss # 200-05-7912 Margaret STEWART (maiden name HILL), b. June 24, 1908, d. June 1976, ss # 178-50-2273 Linda Watson Russell Investment Group > *: (212) 702-7917 > Fax: (212) 702-7901 > *: [email protected] > *: http://www.russell.com > >
If you live in PA you may have already seen this, but for those that don't, a great, great resource for genealogists has been opened. N E W S R E L E A S E COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA > Historical and > Museum Commission Commonwealth News Bureau Room 308, Main Capitol Harrisburg, PA 17120 > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: John K. Robinson (717) 783-9882 > > PHMC ANNOUNCES HISTORICAL RECORDS NOW AVAILABLE ON PA POWERPORT OEDigital > State Archives¹ to allow 24/7 access to historical records > > HARRISBURG (July 3) -- On behalf of Gov. Tom Ridge, Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission (PHMC) Executive Director Brent D. Glass today announced Pennsylvanians now for the first time -- can access historical records through the PA PowerPort. The Archives Records Information Access System (ARIAS) will enable Pennsylvanians and researchers from around the > world to utilize the tremendous resources of the Pennsylvania State Archives right from their homes or local libraries. The records can be accessed through the PA PowerPort at www.state.pa.us or directly at the > Commission¹s site at www.phmc.state.pa.us. ³With the click of a mouse, students, teachers, family researchers and history buffs will be able to view online > historical records maintained at the State Archives in Harrisburg,² Glass said. ³Our goal is to provide easy, cost-free access to historical records that constitute our most valuable window to the past. We think of it as the > 'Digital State Archives.'² Currently, ARIAS offers approximately 200,000 images relating to the participation of Pennsylvanians in the Revolutionary War, Spanish-American War and World War I. The Revolutionary War records are arranged alphabetically by the surname of each soldier, with information on service in the Pennsylvania Militia, Pennsylvania Line, and the Navy; the name and rank of soldier; active or inactive duty; county of residence; battalion in which served; and the archival record > from which the information was extracted. More than 300,000 Civil War and Mexican Border Campaign service card images also are being loaded into the system. Eventually, millions of digitized records, ranging from 19th-century county birth, death and marriage dockets to collections of photographs illustrating every aspect of the Pennsylvania experience, will be added. ³Genealogists > are hungry for access to records such as these,² said James Beidler, executive director of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania. ³The beauty of the resources found in ARIAS is that they will lead researchers to the original source documents, which is what every family historian yearns to find about his or her ancestors.² The online archive is just the latest > example of how Pennsylvania is using technology to cut red tape and improve government services. In his May radio address, Gov. Ridge announced that Pennsylvanians now can renew drivers' licenses, photo IDs and vehicle registrations over the Internet. "We¹ve invested over $300 million to bring our state into the Information Age," Gov. Ridge said. "We call it OEFriction-Free¹ government, and it¹s paying off for customers and taxpayers alike." "It includes our award-winning state website, the PA PowerPort - the flagship of our OEFriction-Free¹ government. And it recently logged its 2 billionth hit! Gov. Ridge has made technology a key component of Pennsylvania¹s economic-development efforts by such measures as: launching the nation's first-ever ³Tax- Free PC² shopping week to encourage home computer use; signing > legislation to make Pennsylvania the first state to enact a uniform Electronic Transactions Act; eliminating the 6 percent sales tax on computer services; creating the research-and-development tax credit; putting the state¹s Web address on Pennsylvania¹s new license plates; leading technology trade missions abroad to increase high-tech exports and high-tech jobs for Pennsylvania; launching the Technology 21 initiative to catapult Pennsylvania into the top 10 states for high-tech business; creating the > ³Made-in-PA² database of Pennsylvania-made products; and expanding the Net Operating Loss carry-forward provision to give technology startups a tax deduction.
N E W S R E L E A S E COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA Historical and Museum Commission Commonwealth News Bureau Room 308, Main Capitol Harrisburg, PA 17120 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: John K. Robinson (717) 783-9882 PHMC ANNOUNCES HISTORICAL RECORDS NOW AVAILABLE ON PA POWERPORT Digital State Archives¹ to allow 24/7 access to historical records HARRISBURG (July 3) -- On behalf of Gov. Tom Ridge, Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission (PHMC) Executive Director Brent D. Glass today announced Pennsylvanians now for the first time -- can access historical records through the PA PowerPort. The Archives Records Information Access System (ARIAS) will enable Pennsylvanians and researchers from around the world to utilize the tremendous resources of the Pennsylvania State Archives right from their homes or local libraries. The records can be accessed through the PA PowerPort at www.state.pa.us or directly at the Commission¹s site at www.phmc.state.pa.us. ³With the click of a mouse, students, teachers, family researchers and history buffs will be able to view online historical records maintained at the State Archives in Harrisburg,² Glass said. ³Our goal is to provide easy, cost-free access to historical records that constitute our most valuable window to the past. We think of it as the 'Digital State Archives.'² Currently, ARIAS offers approximately 200,000 images relating to the participation of Pennsylvanians in the Revolutionary War, Spanish-American War and World War I. The Revolutionary War records are arranged alphabetically by the surname of each soldier, with information on service in the Pennsylvania Militia, Pennsylvania Line, and the Navy; the name and rank of soldier; active or inactive duty; county of residence; battalion in which served; and the archival record from which the information was extracted. More than 300,000 Civil War and Mexican Border Campaign service card images also are being loaded into the system. Eventually, millions of digitized records, ranging from 19th-century county birth, death and marriage dockets to collections of photographs illustrating every aspect of the Pennsylvania experience, will be added. ³Genealogists are hungry for access to records such as these,² said James Beidler, executive director of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania. ³The beauty of the resources found in ARIAS is that they will lead researchers to the original source documents, which is what every family historian yearns to find about his or her ancestors.² The online archive is just the latest example of how Pennsylvania is using technology to cut red tape and improve government services. In his May radio address, Gov. Ridge announced that Pennsylvanians now can renew drivers' licenses, photo IDs and vehicle registrations over the Internet. "We¹ve invested over $300 million to bring our state into the Information Age," Gov. Ridge said. "We call it Friction-Free¹ government, and it¹s paying off for customers and taxpayers alike." "It includes our award-winning state website, the PA PowerPort - the flagship of our Friction-Free¹ government. And it recently logged its 2 billionth hit! Gov. Ridge has made technology a key component of Pennsylvania¹s economic- development efforts by such measures as: launching the nation's first-ever ³Tax- Free PC² shopping week to encourage home computer use; signing legislation to make Pennsylvania the first state to enact a uniform Electronic Transactions Act; eliminating the 6 percent sales tax on computer services; creating the research-and-development tax credit; putting the state¹s Web address on Pennsylvania¹s new license plates; leading technology trade missions abroad to increase high-tech exports and high-tech jobs for Pennsylvania; launching the Technology 21 initiative to catapult Pennsylvania into the top 10 states for high-tech business; creating the ³Made-in-PA² database of Pennsylvania-made products; and expanding the Net Operating Loss carry-forward provision to give technology startups a tax deduction.
Take a look at what I have on my site -- Al Plyler http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~plylerfamily On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 23:33:14 EDT [email protected] writes: > Hello fellow list members, > > I've just recently gotten back into genealogy after a lengthy absence and > have joined the PA-Armstrong mailing list. Primarily, I am interested in the > SMITH, KING, KLINE/CLINE families of Armstrong County. If you'd like any > information on specifics, please just drop me a line off the list.
Gretchen B I would advise sending for the death certificate to find out what the cemetery is. That is often a piece of information that is found on death certificates. If you want to be absolutely certain she died in Yatesboro, then, I recommend a newspaper search for her obituary, and that too may give you the information you are seeking, although I recommend you obtain the death certificate as well. Charlene Calvert Pinkowski [email protected] NEW PERMANENT EMAIL ADDRESS You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. (Ralph Waldo Emerson) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gretchenb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] cemetary lookup > Hi, > Can anyone help me find what cemetary my grandmother might be in. Here is what I have: > Mary Ina Hoover Reid or Reed died in Feb. of 1915 at age 23. She was living in Yatesboro, Pa at the time. Her parents Elizabeth and Zenas were living in Dayton, Pa. then. I know they are buried at Atwood Cemetary but since she died first I don't know wher he is. > Also does anyone know if this is Armstrong Co and if so where do I send for a copy of the death cert and what do they charge? > Thanks in advance. > Gretchen > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >