Fred and listers: Regarding Fred's post below, when did the newspaper, the "Valley Daily Dispatch"/old "Vandergrift Valley Daily News" begin publication? Are they on microfilm? If so, where would these films be located? Are they on LDS microfilm? Also, good point about the obits. I think on other lists that I subscribe to, there are specific sites for obits to be posted. And please don't misunderstand! The people who are taking the time to type and send these are performing a fine service, and I take my hat off to them. But it might be helpful to have a section/site/URL where these can be posted. TIA Marybeth Corrigall [email protected] -------------- In a message dated 7/8/01 5:16:54 PM, [email protected] writes: << Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:36:36 -0500 From: "Fred H. Held" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists Mail list Administrator Nathan Zipfel, We seem to have a flood of obits on the Armstrong and Westmoreland Co mail lists. Would it not be better to have a website to store those obits and put a one-liner for each name, place, and date. Better yet, just make it known that those obits are probably already online at the newspaper's website. We don't need to be filling the A&W Co mail list archives with the obitaries. BTW, there is another online newspaper that also is of of special interest to all those in the Alle-Kiski valley, the Valley Daily Dispatch (old Vandergrift Valley Daily News) at http://www.pittsburghlive.com/valleynewsdispatch/. It has articles and obituaries for the shared area. There are other area newspapers that are online. -- mailto:[email protected] ______________________________

LDS does not have the newspaper on film. I borrow what I need on ILL from the State Library in Harrisburg. I'm not sure about the dates. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Re: "old Vandergrift Valley Daily News" -- PAARMSTR-D Digest V01 #174 > Fred and listers: > > Regarding Fred's post below, when did the newspaper, the "Valley Daily > Dispatch"/old "Vandergrift Valley Daily News" begin publication? Are they on > microfilm? If so, where would these films be located? Are they on LDS > microfilm? > > Also, good point about the obits. I think on other lists that I subscribe > to, there are specific sites for obits to be posted. And please don't > misunderstand! The people who are taking the time to type and send these are > performing a fine service, and I take my hat off to them. But it might be > helpful to have a section/site/URL where these can be posted. > > TIA > > Marybeth Corrigall > [email protected] > > -------------- > In a message dated 7/8/01 5:16:54 PM, [email protected] writes: > > << Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:36:36 -0500 > From: "Fred H. Held" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists > > Mail list Administrator Nathan Zipfel, > > We seem to have a flood of obits on the Armstrong and Westmoreland Co mail > lists. Would it not be better to have a website to store those obits and > put a one-liner for each name, place, and date. Better yet, just make it > known that those obits are probably already online at the newspaper's > website. We don't need to be filling the A&W Co mail list archives with the > obitaries. > > BTW, there is another online newspaper that also is of of special interest > to all those in the Alle-Kiski valley, the Valley Daily Dispatch (old > Vandergrift Valley Daily News) at > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/valleynewsdispatch/. It has articles and > obituaries for the shared area. There are other area newspapers that are > online. > -- > mailto:[email protected] > > ______________________________ > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

While the PARKER discussion is going on, I'll add my unknown PARKER. This was Samuel, who was shown in the 1850 census living in the household of James HINDMAN in Franklin Township. Samuel's age was given as 9 in the 1850 census, indicating he was born about 1841. In the 1860 census, he was listed, still with James HINDMAN, as Samuel HINDMAN, aged 19. It's known that he married Mary Jane Cowan, July 16, 1861, either at Cowansville or Brady's Bend Presbyterian Church, and that he served in the Civil War, and was mustered out.. Little more is known of Samuel H. PARKER, except that he and Mary Jane had a daughter, Asenath Ort PARKER. Samuel and Mary Jane separated or divorced. Mary Jane lived in New Castle, but where did Samuel go? Who were Samuel's parents? Why was he raised by another family, who were childless except for another girl they raised? Jim Hindman

The first United States census was taken in 1790. It asked for the name of the head of household; the number of free white males 16 & up including the head of the family; the number of free white males under 16; the number of free white females including the head of the family; all other persons; slaves. The 1800 and 1810 census asked for this information, the name of the head of family; the number of free white males-under 10; 10-16; 16-26; 26-45; 45 & over; free white females-under 10; 10-16; 16-26; 26-45; 45 & over; all others; slaves. The 1820 census asked for this information, the name of the head of the family; the number of free white males- under 10; 10-16; 16-18; 16-26; 26-45; 45 and over; free white females- under 10; 10-16; 16-26; 26-45; 45 and over; Foreigners not naturalized; agriculture; commerce; manufacturers; free colored; slaves. Note that there is a redundancy in the free white males of 16-18 and 16-26. The 1830 and the 1840 census asked for this information, the name of the head of family; the number of free white males- under 5; 5-10; 10-15; 15-20; 20-30; 30-40; 40-50; 50-60; 60-70; 70-80; 80-90; 90-100; over 100; free white females- under 5; 5-10; 10-15; 15-20; 20-30; 30-40; 40-50; 50-60; 60-70; 70-80; 80-90; 90-100; over 100; Slaves; Free colored; Foreigners not naturalized. The 1850 census asked for this information, the name; age; sex; color; occupation; value of real estate; birthplace; married within the year; attended school within the year; cannot read or write of each member of the household. The 1860 census asked for this information, the name; age; sex; color; occupation; value of real estate; value of personal property; birthplace; married in the year; attended school in the year; can't read or write of each member of the household. The 1870 census asked for this information for each member of the household, the name; age; sex; color; occupation; value of real estate; value of personal property; birthplace; Father foreign born; Mother foreign born; Month if born in the year; month if married in the year; attended school in the year; can't read or write; eligible to vote. The 1880 census asked for this information for each member of the household, the name; color; sex; age prior to June 1st; month of birth if born in the census year; relationship to head of household; single; married; widowed; divorced; married in the year; occupation; cannot read or write; place of birth; place of birth of father; place of birth of mother. Most of the 1890 census was destroyed in a fire, so very little information is available. From http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/part8.html Part 8: 1890 Census Schedules Eleventh Census of the United States, 1890. M407. 3 rolls. Most of the 1890 population schedules were badly damaged by fire in the Commerce Department Building in January 1921. The extant schedules are numbered and noted at the end of rolls 1-3 below. 1. ALABAMA, Perry County (Perryville Beat No.11 and Severe Beat No. 8) [fragments 1-455] 2. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, Q, 13th, 14th, R, Q, Corcoran, 15th, S, R, and Riggs Streets, Johnson Avenue, and S Street [fragments 456-781] 3. GEORGIA, Muscogee County (Columbus); ILLINOIS, McDonough County (Mound Twp.); MINNESOTA, Wright County (Rockford); NEW JERSEY, Hudson County (Jersey City); NEW YORK, Westchester County, (Eastchester); and Suffolk County (Brookhaven Twp.); NORTH CAROLINA, Gaston County (South Point Twp. and River Bend Twp.) and Cleveland County (Twp. No. 2); OHIO, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) and Clinton County (Wayne Twp.); SOUTH DAKOTA, Union County (Jefferson Twp.); TEXAS, Ellis County (J.P. No. 6, Mountain Peak, and Ovilla Precinct), Hood County (Precinct No. 5), Rusk County (No. 6 and J.P. No. 7), Trinity County (Trinity Town and Precinct No. 2) and Kaufman County (Kaufman) [fragments 782-1,233] Index to the Eleventh Census of the United States, 1890. M496. 2 rolls. 16-mm. This name index covers the few extant 1890 population schedules. Numbers on the cards match those listed at the end of rolls 1-3 of M407 above. 1. A-J 2. K-Z The 1900 census asked for this information, the name of each person whose place of abode on June 1, 1900 was in this family, relationship to head of family; color; sex; month of birth; year of birth; age; single, married, widowed, divorced; Number of years married; Mother of how many children; Number of these children living; Place of birth; Place of birth of father; place of birth of mother; Year of immigration to U.S.; Number of years in U.S.; Naturalized; occupation type; number of months not employed; number of months attended school; can read; can write; can speak English; Home owned or rented; Home owned free or mortgaged. The 1910 census asked for this information, the name of each person whose place of abode on April 15, 1910, was in this family; relationship to head of family; sex; race; age; marital status; number of years married; Mother of how many children; No. of these children living; Place of birth; Place of birth of father; Place of birth of mother; Year of immigration to U.S.; Naturalized or alien; Language spoken; occupation; nature of trade; employer, worker, or own account; no. of months not employed; can read and write; attending school; owned or rented property; owned free or mortgaged property; farm or house; veteran of Civil War; Blind or handicapped. The 1920 census asked for this information, name of each person whose place of abode on January 1, 1920, was in this family; relationship to head of family; home owned or rented; owned free or mortgaged; sex; color or race; age; marital status; Year of immigration to U.S.; Naturalized or alien; Year of naturalization; attending school; can read and write; Place of birth; mother tongue; Father's place of birth; mother tongue; Mother's place of birth; mother tongue; can speak English. The 1930 census will be available after April 1, 2002. The privacy act prohibits releasing census data to the public for 72 years. The 1930 census asked 32 questions about each person: Place of Abode 1. Street, avenue, road, etc. 2. House number (in cities or towns) 3. Number of dwelling house in order of visitation [this number supplied by census taker]. 4. Number of family in order of visitation [this number supplied by census taker]. Name 5. Name of each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930, was in this family. Relation 6. Relationship of this person to the head of the family. Home Data 7. Home owned or rented. 8. Value of home, if owned, or monthly rental, if rented. 9. Radio set. 10. Does this family live on a farm? Personal Description 11. Sex. 12. Color or race [White (W), Negro (Neg), Mexican (Mex), Indian (In), Chinese (Ch), Japanese (Jp), Filipino (Fil), Hindu (Hin), Korean (Kor), other races spelled out in full.] 13. Age at last birthday. 14. Marital condition. [Single (S), married (M), widowed (Wd), divorced (D).] 15. Age at first marriage. Education 16. Attended school or college any time since Sept. 1, 1929. 17. Whether able to read and write. Place of birth 18. Place of birth--PERSON. 19. Place of birth--FATHER. 20. Place of birth--MOTHER. Mother Tongue (or Native Language) of Foreign Born 21. Language spoken in home before coming to the United States. Here follows 3 columns of "CODE (For office use only. Do not write in these columns)" relating to "State or M.T. [mother tongue]," "Country," and "Nativity." These codes were entered to assist in statistical tabulation and do not provide any information beyond that found in columns 18-21. Citizenship, etc. 22. Year of immigration to the United States. 23. Naturalization. 24. Whether able to speak English. Occupation & Industry 25. Trade, profession, or particular kind of work done, as spinner, salesman, riveter, teacher, etc. 26. Industry or business, as cotton mill, dry-goods store, shipyard, public school, etc. 27. Class of worker. Employment 28. Whether actually at work yesterday (or the last regular working day)--Yes or No 29. If not, line number on Unemployment Schedule. Veterans 30. Whether a veteran of U.S. military or naval force--Yes or No. 31. What war or expedition? [World War (WW), Spanish-American War (Sp), Civil War (Civ), Philippine Insurrection (Phil), Boxer Rebellion (Box), Mexican Expedition (Mex)]. Farm Schedule 32. Number of farm schedule. [Farm schedules no longer exist]. Hope this helps. <tm. Eileen Mesa, AZ NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES (ALPHABETICALLY) ADAMS - January 22, 1800, formed of a part of York. ALLEGHENY - September 24, 1788, formed of parts of Westmoreland and Washington. ARMSTRONG - March 12, 1800, formed of parts of Allegheny, Westmoreland, and Lycoming. BEAVER - March 12, 1800, formed of parts of Allegheny and Washington. BEDFORD - March 9, 1771, formed of a part of Cumberland. BERKS - March 11, 1752, formed of parts of Philadelphia, Chester, and Lancaster. BLAIR - February 26, 1846, formed of parts of Huntingdon and Bedford. BRADFORD - February 21, 1810, formed of parts Luzerne and Lycoming. (Previous to March 24, 1812, this county was called Ontario.) BUCKS - 1682, one of the three original counties of the Province of Pennsylvania. BUTLER - March 12, 1800, formed of a part of Allegheny. CAMBRIA - March 26, 1804, formed of parts of Huntingdon, Somerset, and Bedford. CAMERON - March 29, 1860, formed of parts of Clinton, Elk, McKean and Potter. CARBON - March 13, 1843, formed of parts of Northampton and Monroe. CENTRE - February 13, 1800, formed of parts of Mifflin, Northumberland, Lycoming, and Huntingdon. CHESTER - 1682, one of the three original counties of the Province of Pennsylvania. CLARION - March 11, 1839, formed of parts of Venango and Armstrong. CLEARFIELD - March 26, 1804, formed of parts of Northumberland, Huntingdon, and Lycoming. CLINTON - June 21, 1839, formed of parts of Lycoming and Centre. COLUMBIA - March 22, 1813, formed of a part of Northumberland. CRAWFORD - March 12, 1800, formed of a part of Allegheny. CUMBERLAND - January 27, 1750, formed of a part of Lancaster. DAUPHIN - March 4, 1785, formed of a part of Lancaster. DELAWARE - September 26, 1789, formed of a part of Chester. ELK - April 18, 1843, formed of parts of Jefferson, Clearfield, and McKean. ERIE - March 12, 1800, formed of a part of Allegheny. FAYETTE - September 26, 1783, formed of a part of Westmoreland. FOREST - April 11, 1848, formed of parts of Jefferson and Venango. (Part of Venango added by act approved October 31, 1866) FRANKLIN - September 9, 1784, formed of a part of Cumberland. FULTON - April 19, 1850, formed of a part of Bedford. GREENE - February 9, 1796, formed of a part of Washington. HUNTINGDON- September 20, 1787, formed of a part of Bedford. INDIANA - March 30, 1803, formed of parts of Westmoreland and Lycoming. JEFFERSON - March 26, 1804, formed of a part of Lycoming. JUNIATA - March 2, 1831, formed of a part of Mifflin. LACKAWANNA - August 21, 1878, formed of a part of Luzerne. LANCASTER - May 10, 1729, formed of a part of Chester. LAWRENCE - March 20, 1819, formed of parts of Beaver and Mercer. LEBANON - February 16, 1813, formed of parts of Dauphin and Lancaster. LEHIGH - March 6, 1812, formed of a part of Northampton. LUZERNE - September 25, 1786, formed of a part of Northumberland. LYCOMING - April 13, 1795, formed of a part of Northumberland. McKEAN - March 26, 1804, formed of a part of Lycoming. MERCER - March 12, 1800, formed of a part of Allegheny. MIFFLIN - September 19, 1789, formed of parts of Cumberland and Northumberland. MONROE - April 1, 1836, formed of parts of Northampton and Pike. MONTGOMERY - September 10, 1784, formed of a part of Philadelphia. MONTOUR - May 3, 1850, formed of a part of Columbia. NORTHAMPTON - March 11, 1752, formed of a part of Bucks. NORTHUMBERLAND - March 21, 1772, formed of parts of Lancaster, Cumberland, Berks, Bedford, and Northampton. PERRY - March 22, 1820, formed of a part of Cumberland. PHILADELPHIA - 1682, one of the three original counties of the Province of Pennsylvania. PIKE - March 26, 1814, formed of a part of Wayne. POTTER - March 26, 1804, formed of a part of Lycoming. SCHUYLKILL - March 1, 1811, formed of parts of Berks and Northampton. SNYDER - March 2, 1855, formed of a part of Union. SOMERSET - April 17, 1795, formed of a part of Bedford. SULLIVAN - March 15, 1847, formed of a part of Lycoming. SUSQUEHANNA - February 21, 1810, formed of a part of Luzerne. TIOGA - March 26, 1804, formed of a part of Lycoming. UNION - March 22, 1813, formed of a part of Northumberland. VENANGO - March 12, 1800, formed of parts of Allegheny and Lycoming. WARREN - March 12, 1800, formed of parts of Allegheny and Lycoming. WAYNE - March 21, 1798, formed of a part of Northampton. WASHINGTON - March 28, 1781, formed of a part of Westmoreland. WESTMORELAND - February 26, 1773, formed of a part of Bedford, and in 1785 part of the purchase of 1784 was added. WYOMING - April 4, 1812, formed of a part of Luzerne. YORK - August 19, 1749, formed of a part of Lancaster. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

Hi List, I've been reading the Parker information with interest. I don't have a Parker line, that I'm aware of, but my 3rd great grandmother - Mary Hahn/Hohn Myers was accused of poisoning my 3rd great grandfather, John Myers. This was in Jan.1847 Clarion Co, Pa. Her partner in this crime was John Parker. John Parker and Mary were found guilty and were to be hanged. John Parker escaped and Mary spend a little time in jail. When it was learned Mary was pregnant with her 12th child, no one wanted to kill the unborn baby, so released her. Mary left Clarion Co.and settled in Armstrong Co.Mahoning Twp., Pa. where she remarried two more times and died in 1890. We don't know why Mary and John Parker poisoned or if they did poison John Myers. (we are still waiting on trial papers) Was this 12th child John Myers or was John Parker and Mary having an affair. If not, who was John Parker and what was his relationship to Mary? I don't feel John Myers was lily white in all of this as we have learned Mary filed an assault and battery charge on him in 1844. Anyone out there familiar with this? I hope that someone knows about this and can give me more information on Mary that will help me learn who were her parents. Mary says she was born in New York, her father (don't know his name) was born in Pa. and her mother (don't know her name) was born in New Jersey. Any help is appreciated. Lona [email protected]

Hello, I have been a silent subscriber to this list for sometime. I do not put many posts out there myself, but enjoy reading everone's input. What I would like to know is, as long as the mail that this ( and other lists ) receive is clean, non- abusive and in the interests of research, What seems to be the problem ? There is a key on the keyboard called delete. If one does not want to read the post that is posted ( by reviewing the subject matter first ) then just delete and then delete the delete files. I do have an example : Suppose " Jane Doe " orders " B " cable channel with her subscription, then 2 months into the future she complains about what is on " B " channel, meanwhile there are many other people who enjoy the programming. Are the " powers that be " supposed to displease and create controversy and cancel the programming ? I certainly hope not!!! Saying that obituaries do not belong on such a list like this, is like saying that "Big Bird " does not belong on Sesame Street! Or should Big Bird go solo? I for one ( and may be the only one, but that does not bother me ) will unsubscribe if the ones that are willing to put out info and benefit others are not allowed to do so. Too bad though, I was going to gather my data and post such info on this list concerning my findings on Armstrong County Civil War Soldiers.... but I guess that would be clogging up the list, soon there will be nothing but people asking for help and no one will have any answers! Also, I have not been receiving the obits on this list, now I know why. Best Regards, Thomas Allan Wright Sr [email protected]

Doug, You can also post your obituaries to the Armstrong County USGenWeb Project site maintained by Nate and me. It's at: http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ Click on Source Records and choose the Obituary Board. I'm curious, I haven't been receiving the copies of the obituaries on this list. Alice Gayley

Looking for any info regarding Patrick & Elizabeth (Wiles) Dwyer. thier births - abt 1845 don't know where either was born or when/where married. Do know that they had 2 daughters baptized at St. Patrick's Catholic church in Brady's Bend. Sarah was born in 1874 - bapt. Aug 16, 1874 A son - John Richard Dwyer was born in 1869 Do not know where. Please let me know if you have any info regarding these people. Also - what Catholic church would have been before St. Patrick's in Brady's Bend? Thank you, Michelle

I'm afraid Idisagree. I have gotten way more family info from the obituaries that have been posted to this list and the Clarion list than any other kinds of posts. I appreciate the time that those folks take to make sure that the obituaries make it to the list. You can always employ your "delete" key, or block the e-mail of the person who sends the obituaries to the list. I've done this before when folks were doing alot of lookups that didn't pertain to me, and then unblocked that person when the lookups were done. In any case, this is a matter for the list administrator to decide whether or not obituaries are permitted on the list. I for one hope they continue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred H. Held" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] RE: [PAWESTMO-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists > Doug and others, > > Yes, obituaries are a important part of genealogical research. But, there > is a place to make record of those obits on a RootsWeb website. Go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/. You are more than welcome to post them > at the free RootsWeb website designed specifically for obituaries. Please > do not post them on the county mail lists. > > I have no objection to a one-liner with the name, place, and date. > > BTW, the responses to me personally have been 100% agreeing with me that > obituaries do NOT belong on the list. Some have indicated that they will > unsubscribe because of the trouble of weeding through the obits. > >

I for one disagree. I believe obituaries do belong on a county board. Linda > > From: "Fred H. Held" <[email protected]> > Date: 2001/07/09 Mon AM 08:29:40 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] RE: [PAWESTMO-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists > > Doug and others, > > Yes, obituaries are a important part of genealogical research. But, there > is a place to make record of those obits on a RootsWeb website. Go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/. You are more than welcome to post them > at the free RootsWeb website designed specifically for obituaries. Please > do not post them on the county mail lists. > > I have no objection to a one-liner with the name, place, and date. > > BTW, the responses to me personally have been 100% agreeing with me that > obituaries do NOT belong on the list. Some have indicated that they will > unsubscribe because of the trouble of weeding through the obits. > > >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 23:32:06 -0400 > >From: "Doug Hull" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: [PAWESTMO-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists > > > >Nate, > > > >Please let me know what I should do -- I will suspend my obit postings for > >the next day or two until I hear something but in the absence of a message > >from the list admin, I will continue to post the obits after a couple of > >days. The positive notes of appreciation far exceed the number of > >complaints about the service provided. I personally feel that the archives > >should have these obits as someone searching on a surname could greatly > >benefit from an obit of a relative. > > > >Doug > > -- > mailto:[email protected] > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

Pack: In my index, have one: Julie Anne Packer, of the current generation, no date of birth, married Richard Lee Hidenger of Armstrong County, Pa. Sorry, nothing about her parents. Check at Kittanning, Armstrong County Courthouse for a copy of her marriage license. Pearl --- Pack <[email protected]> wrote: > Ever run across any "PACKER" in your Parker search? > > Ed Packer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pearl Ramirez" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > Jim: Just found a few pages that were copied from > > Armstrong County History Book, noted that > Sugarcreek > > Township, later named Perry Twp. had a first grist > > mill about 1800's operated by a William Parker.. > > --- Pearl Ramirez <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Jim: Will prepare an envelope of information > to > > > mail > > > to your P. O. Box tomorrow. Now, way back in my > > > past, > > > I remember seeing a picture of Judge Parker in > an > > > Armstrong County History Book, and Parkers > Landing, > > > now Parker, Pa. (the smallest city in the U.S.) > had > > > an > > > oil boom and large population, now down to about > > > 3,000 > > > people, more or less. was named for a Judge > Parker. > > > > > > Armstrong Historical Society should have more > > > information available.I graduated High School in > > > Parker in 1948. and attended my 50 year reunion > in > > > 1998 and still have many friends and relatives > in > > > that > > > area. I live in California now. Pearl > > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Pearl, Thank you so much for the reply. I > > > just > > > > got back from Butler > > > > County. Sent a week looking for Parker's and > > > > relatives. Guess I should have > > > > stayed on the computer! Anyway, any > information is > > > > very much appreciated. My > > > > mailing address is: James Wick Parker, PO Box > > > 5555, > > > > Middleburg, VA 20118. > > > > Thank you. > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:48 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim: Good to hear from you of your interest > in > > > > the > > > > > Reep Family Association. Betty Irwin Parker > was > > > > the > > > > > secretary of the Reep Family Association and > the > > > > > letter was from her to Gladys Walley. I > will be > > > > glad > > > > > to mail you a copy if you send me privately > your > > > > post > > > > > office mailing address. She lived in > Petrolia, > > > > Butler > > > > > County, and her children still live in the > same > > > > area. > > > > > It would be wonderful if they would donate > her > > > > > wonderful research to a Historical Society > so it > > > > would > > > > > not be lost. In 2000, an obit of her > brother," > > > > John R. > > > > > Irwin"12/6/1925 9 11/2000 listed her as > living > > > in > > > > > Florida and remarried. Her husband was > Edward > > > > Joseph > > > > > Parker 4 8 1917/6 15 1980...and her parents > were > > > > David > > > > > Conrad Irwin and Iola Ruth Reep. > > > > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, I am replying to Pearl via this > email. I > > > am > > > > > >> interested in the letter > > > > > >> that Betty Irwin Parker has from the Reep > > > > Family > > > > > >> Association. In fact, I > > > > > >> would like more information on contacting > the > > > > Reep > > > > > >> Family Association. I am > > > > > >> related to the Reep family. I am almost > sure > > > > that > > > > > >> Betty Irwin Parker is in > > > > > >> the Parker line also. Please email me > with > > > any > > > > > >> nugget of information you > > > > > >> have on these items I have listed. Thank > you. > > > > James > > > > > >> Wick Parker. > > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >> From: <[email protected]> > > > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:42 PM > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Eileen: Have been reading your replies > > > with > > > > much > > > > > >> > interest and now have a question for > you > > > > about my > > > > > >> > family....are you related to the Irwin > > > family > > > > of > > > > > >> > Petrolia area, Butler County, Pa. We > have > > > a > > > > > >> letter > > > > > >> > written in 1970's for the Reep Family > > > > Association > > > > > >> by > > > > > >> > Betty Irwin Parker, about the Walley > Family > > > > and > > > > > >> how > > > > > >> > they were related. She was an > excellent > > > > > >> researcher, > > > > > >> > back long before computors. I research > the > > > > Walley > > > > > >> > Family. Pearl > > > > > >> > --- Eileen Irwin > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> Yes, Ann, I am subscribed to several > > > > rootsweb > > > > > >> mail > > > > > >> > >> lists. I have been doing > > > > > >> > >> genealogy for almost 30 years and > have > > > > given > > > > > >> much, > > > > > >> > >> much more information through > > > > > >> > >> the lists than I have received. I > have > > > > text > > > > > >> files > > > > > >> > >> explaining the census (years > > > > > >> > >> and contents), the formation of the > > > > counties of > > > > > >> > >> Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West > > > > > >> > >> Virginia (years formed and parent > > > > counties), > > > > > >> early > > > > > >> > >> westward migration and > > > > > >> > >> expansion, etc. I have "shared" my > data > > > > > >> including > > > > > >> > >> source information and > > > > > >> > >> documentation. I hope I have helped > > > many > > > > with > > > > > >> my > > > > > >> > >> posts. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Some of those who have not done > > > genealogy > > > > prior > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > >> the internet have no clue how > > > > > >> > >> to do research off the net, > including > > > > using a > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Doug and others, Yes, obituaries are a important part of genealogical research. But, there is a place to make record of those obits on a RootsWeb website. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/. You are more than welcome to post them at the free RootsWeb website designed specifically for obituaries. Please do not post them on the county mail lists. I have no objection to a one-liner with the name, place, and date. BTW, the responses to me personally have been 100% agreeing with me that obituaries do NOT belong on the list. Some have indicated that they will unsubscribe because of the trouble of weeding through the obits. >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 23:32:06 -0400 >From: "Doug Hull" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [PAWESTMO-L] Armstrong and Westmoreland Co Mail Lists > >Nate, > >Please let me know what I should do -- I will suspend my obit postings for >the next day or two until I hear something but in the absence of a message >from the list admin, I will continue to post the obits after a couple of >days. The positive notes of appreciation far exceed the number of >complaints about the service provided. I personally feel that the archives >should have these obits as someone searching on a surname could greatly >benefit from an obit of a relative. > >Doug -- mailto:[email protected]

There is no doubt that Obit information is important genealogical research and belongs on our various lists. The people who take the time to type the obits and share them with us are wonderful people who hope to help others. Having said the above, I think that there can be an obit abuse factor which I don't believe has happened on the Armstrong and Westmoreland lists yet; but, I have experience the problem on another list which was pumping out 30 individual obits per day; i.e. 30 separate Emails a day and on one occasion I received 50. Soon, very few other types of posting occurred which to me spoiled the list so I unsubscribed as did many others.. I think that it would be very helpful to us, if when the full obits are presented in a group, that maybe the subjects surnames could be put in the subject line so that we would all know if there was a surname that we wanted to find further down in the text. If there was no one we wanted to check out, we can simply delete that set of obits and go on to the next posting of obits. I have seen this done on another list which worked very successfully. Another solution would be, if the obits are being gotten from a newspaper Web Page, to simply give a listing such as: Doe, John such and such a date Doe, Jane, such and such date. Sprat, Jack, such and such date Then the URL of the newspaper could be given so that if someone wanted to learn more about John or Jane Doe, they could simply go to the site for the rest of the obit. This would save time for the kind people who deserve a lot of credit for providing us with obit info and not take up a lot of time for the people not interested in those particular names for that particular day. Rootsweb also provides two Obit lists as well. Just a thought folks. Certainly we owe a big thank you to those people who have been providing the obits; and, at the same time, we should respect the opinions of those people who feel that there have been too many each week. I think that the solution lies in the method of presenting the obits; and, certainly, I don't think anyone is suggesting that they be eliminated. Marilyn: Lake Co., ILLINOIS; [email protected]

I am looking for John Waltenbaugh born about 1794 in Germany (per his sons death certificate) or (Pa. per census.) and died May 1879 in Monroe County, Ohio and his wife Hannah Smith dates unkown born in Pa. Their children were Thrissa Jane, Margaret, Sarah Ann, Hannah and John Smith Waltenbaugh. I have a census that says they were in Armstrong Co. 1850 Alleghney Township. Thrissa Jane was my great great grandmother and she married Charles Dorff Oct. 14, 1866 in Monroe County, Ohio. She died at age 37 Dec. 5, 1883 Colleen Schmitt Waggle

Ever run across any "PACKER" in your Parker search? Ed Packer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pearl Ramirez" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > Jim: Just found a few pages that were copied from > Armstrong County History Book, noted that Sugarcreek > Township, later named Perry Twp. had a first grist > mill about 1800's operated by a William Parker.. > --- Pearl Ramirez <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim: Will prepare an envelope of information to > > mail > > to your P. O. Box tomorrow. Now, way back in my > > past, > > I remember seeing a picture of Judge Parker in an > > Armstrong County History Book, and Parkers Landing, > > now Parker, Pa. (the smallest city in the U.S.) had > > an > > oil boom and large population, now down to about > > 3,000 > > people, more or less. was named for a Judge Parker. > > > > Armstrong Historical Society should have more > > information available.I graduated High School in > > Parker in 1948. and attended my 50 year reunion in > > 1998 and still have many friends and relatives in > > that > > area. I live in California now. Pearl > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Pearl, Thank you so much for the reply. I > > just > > > got back from Butler > > > County. Sent a week looking for Parker's and > > > relatives. Guess I should have > > > stayed on the computer! Anyway, any information is > > > very much appreciated. My > > > mailing address is: James Wick Parker, PO Box > > 5555, > > > Middleburg, VA 20118. > > > Thank you. > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:48 AM > > > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > > > > > > > Jim: Good to hear from you of your interest in > > > the > > > > Reep Family Association. Betty Irwin Parker was > > > the > > > > secretary of the Reep Family Association and the > > > > letter was from her to Gladys Walley. I will be > > > glad > > > > to mail you a copy if you send me privately your > > > post > > > > office mailing address. She lived in Petrolia, > > > Butler > > > > County, and her children still live in the same > > > area. > > > > It would be wonderful if they would donate her > > > > wonderful research to a Historical Society so it > > > would > > > > not be lost. In 2000, an obit of her brother," > > > John R. > > > > Irwin"12/6/1925 9 11/2000 listed her as living > > in > > > > Florida and remarried. Her husband was Edward > > > Joseph > > > > Parker 4 8 1917/6 15 1980...and her parents were > > > David > > > > Conrad Irwin and Iola Ruth Reep. > > > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Hi, I am replying to Pearl via this email. I > > am > > > > >> interested in the letter > > > > >> that Betty Irwin Parker has from the Reep > > > Family > > > > >> Association. In fact, I > > > > >> would like more information on contacting the > > > Reep > > > > >> Family Association. I am > > > > >> related to the Reep family. I am almost sure > > > that > > > > >> Betty Irwin Parker is in > > > > >> the Parker line also. Please email me with > > any > > > > >> nugget of information you > > > > >> have on these items I have listed. Thank you. > > > James > > > > >> Wick Parker. > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: <[email protected]> > > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:42 PM > > > > >> Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Eileen: Have been reading your replies > > with > > > much > > > > >> > interest and now have a question for you > > > about my > > > > >> > family....are you related to the Irwin > > family > > > of > > > > >> > Petrolia area, Butler County, Pa. We have > > a > > > > >> letter > > > > >> > written in 1970's for the Reep Family > > > Association > > > > >> by > > > > >> > Betty Irwin Parker, about the Walley Family > > > and > > > > >> how > > > > >> > they were related. She was an excellent > > > > >> researcher, > > > > >> > back long before computors. I research the > > > Walley > > > > >> > Family. Pearl > > > > >> > --- Eileen Irwin <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> Yes, Ann, I am subscribed to several > > > rootsweb > > > > >> mail > > > > >> > >> lists. I have been doing > > > > >> > >> genealogy for almost 30 years and have > > > given > > > > >> much, > > > > >> > >> much more information through > > > > >> > >> the lists than I have received. I have > > > text > > > > >> files > > > > >> > >> explaining the census (years > > > > >> > >> and contents), the formation of the > > > counties of > > > > >> > >> Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West > > > > >> > >> Virginia (years formed and parent > > > counties), > > > > >> early > > > > >> > >> westward migration and > > > > >> > >> expansion, etc. I have "shared" my data > > > > >> including > > > > >> > >> source information and > > > > >> > >> documentation. I hope I have helped > > many > > > with > > > > >> my > > > > >> > >> posts. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Some of those who have not done > > genealogy > > > prior > > > > >> to > > > > >> > >> the internet have no clue how > > > > >> > >> to do research off the net, including > > > using a > > > > >> map to > > > > >> > >> locate places (cities or > > > > >> > >> towns) or a dictionary (for various > > terms > > > and > > > > >> > >> definitions) or even an > > > > >> > >> encyclopedia (for historical > > perspective). > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> You are absolutely correct. It is far > > > easier > > > > >> to > > > > >> > >> post a query on a mail list > > > > >> > >> than to actually do any research for > > > yourself > > > > >> or to > > > > >> > >> latch on to one of the > > > > >> > >> compiled trees and have your "family" go > > > back > > > > >> to 360 > > > > >> > >> A.D. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Eileen Irwin > > > > >> > >> Mesa, AZ > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Ann Avery Hunter wrote: > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Eileen wrote: > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I blame much of the ignorance on > > > > >> things/places > > > > >> > >> like Family Tree Maker; World > > > > >> > >> > > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even > > > > >> rootsweb. > > > > >> > >> Their priorities are selling > > > > >> > >> > > products and information and leading > > > the > > > > >> novices > > > > >> > >> to believe that genealogy is > > > > >> > >> > > quick and easy. > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > I have been doing genealogical > > research > > > for > > > > >> over > > > > >> > >> 45 years and am definitely > > > > >> > >> > no novice, and I give thanks every day > > > of my > > > > >> life > > > > >> > >> for > > > > >> > >> > Ancestry.com and Rootsweb. Face it, > > > genealogy > > > > >> IS a > > > > >> > >> lot easier now > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

List, As of today, July 8, 2001, Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page has once again been updated. For those of you who may be "NEW" to the list, let me briefly explain. Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page was designed by yours truly, as a means of helping those of us on the list "CONNECT" to others who are on the list who are researching the same surnames. This is a permanent web site, so it can be checked out at any time, whenever you wish. This update includes all surnames that have been submitted to me thus far. Also, NEW to this update is a "NEW ALPHABETICAL QUICK LINK" so if you were interested in the surname "MILLER" you could jump down the page right to the "M's". My thanks to Monette, who offered this suggestion, due to the fact that her web TV would not let her view the entire page because of the vast amount of names that are already on the list. It is my hope that this web site will help those of you on the list connect to some of your own Internet Cousins. Here's the direct link that will take you to this site: Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://mickey.pa-roots.com Please remember to bookmark this site for future use. Enjoy! Mickey [email protected] Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

Jim: Just found a few pages that were copied from Armstrong County History Book, noted that Sugarcreek Township, later named Perry Twp. had a first grist mill about 1800's operated by a William Parker.. --- Pearl Ramirez <[email protected]> wrote: > Jim: Will prepare an envelope of information to > mail > to your P. O. Box tomorrow. Now, way back in my > past, > I remember seeing a picture of Judge Parker in an > Armstrong County History Book, and Parkers Landing, > now Parker, Pa. (the smallest city in the U.S.) had > an > oil boom and large population, now down to about > 3,000 > people, more or less. was named for a Judge Parker. > > Armstrong Historical Society should have more > information available.I graduated High School in > Parker in 1948. and attended my 50 year reunion in > 1998 and still have many friends and relatives in > that > area. I live in California now. Pearl > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Pearl, Thank you so much for the reply. I > just > > got back from Butler > > County. Sent a week looking for Parker's and > > relatives. Guess I should have > > stayed on the computer! Anyway, any information is > > very much appreciated. My > > mailing address is: James Wick Parker, PO Box > 5555, > > Middleburg, VA 20118. > > Thank you. > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > > > > Jim: Good to hear from you of your interest in > > the > > > Reep Family Association. Betty Irwin Parker was > > the > > > secretary of the Reep Family Association and the > > > letter was from her to Gladys Walley. I will be > > glad > > > to mail you a copy if you send me privately your > > post > > > office mailing address. She lived in Petrolia, > > Butler > > > County, and her children still live in the same > > area. > > > It would be wonderful if they would donate her > > > wonderful research to a Historical Society so it > > would > > > not be lost. In 2000, an obit of her brother," > > John R. > > > Irwin"12/6/1925 9 11/2000 listed her as living > in > > > Florida and remarried. Her husband was Edward > > Joseph > > > Parker 4 8 1917/6 15 1980...and her parents were > > David > > > Conrad Irwin and Iola Ruth Reep. > > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, I am replying to Pearl via this email. I > am > > > >> interested in the letter > > > >> that Betty Irwin Parker has from the Reep > > Family > > > >> Association. In fact, I > > > >> would like more information on contacting the > > Reep > > > >> Family Association. I am > > > >> related to the Reep family. I am almost sure > > that > > > >> Betty Irwin Parker is in > > > >> the Parker line also. Please email me with > any > > > >> nugget of information you > > > >> have on these items I have listed. Thank you. > > James > > > >> Wick Parker. > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: <[email protected]> > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:42 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Eileen: Have been reading your replies > with > > much > > > >> > interest and now have a question for you > > about my > > > >> > family....are you related to the Irwin > family > > of > > > >> > Petrolia area, Butler County, Pa. We have > a > > > >> letter > > > >> > written in 1970's for the Reep Family > > Association > > > >> by > > > >> > Betty Irwin Parker, about the Walley Family > > and > > > >> how > > > >> > they were related. She was an excellent > > > >> researcher, > > > >> > back long before computors. I research the > > Walley > > > >> > Family. Pearl > > > >> > --- Eileen Irwin <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Yes, Ann, I am subscribed to several > > rootsweb > > > >> mail > > > >> > >> lists. I have been doing > > > >> > >> genealogy for almost 30 years and have > > given > > > >> much, > > > >> > >> much more information through > > > >> > >> the lists than I have received. I have > > text > > > >> files > > > >> > >> explaining the census (years > > > >> > >> and contents), the formation of the > > counties of > > > >> > >> Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West > > > >> > >> Virginia (years formed and parent > > counties), > > > >> early > > > >> > >> westward migration and > > > >> > >> expansion, etc. I have "shared" my data > > > >> including > > > >> > >> source information and > > > >> > >> documentation. I hope I have helped > many > > with > > > >> my > > > >> > >> posts. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Some of those who have not done > genealogy > > prior > > > >> to > > > >> > >> the internet have no clue how > > > >> > >> to do research off the net, including > > using a > > > >> map to > > > >> > >> locate places (cities or > > > >> > >> towns) or a dictionary (for various > terms > > and > > > >> > >> definitions) or even an > > > >> > >> encyclopedia (for historical > perspective). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> You are absolutely correct. It is far > > easier > > > >> to > > > >> > >> post a query on a mail list > > > >> > >> than to actually do any research for > > yourself > > > >> or to > > > >> > >> latch on to one of the > > > >> > >> compiled trees and have your "family" go > > back > > > >> to 360 > > > >> > >> A.D. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Eileen Irwin > > > >> > >> Mesa, AZ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ann Avery Hunter wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > Eileen wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > I blame much of the ignorance on > > > >> things/places > > > >> > >> like Family Tree Maker; World > > > >> > >> > > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even > > > >> rootsweb. > > > >> > >> Their priorities are selling > > > >> > >> > > products and information and leading > > the > > > >> novices > > > >> > >> to believe that genealogy is > > > >> > >> > > quick and easy. > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > I have been doing genealogical > research > > for > > > >> over > > > >> > >> 45 years and am definitely > > > >> > >> > no novice, and I give thanks every day > > of my > > > >> life > > > >> > >> for > > > >> > >> > Ancestry.com and Rootsweb. Face it, > > genealogy > > > >> IS a > > > >> > >> lot easier now > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Jim: Will prepare an envelope of information to mail to your P. O. Box tomorrow. Now, way back in my past, I remember seeing a picture of Judge Parker in an Armstrong County History Book, and Parkers Landing, now Parker, Pa. (the smallest city in the U.S.) had an oil boom and large population, now down to about 3,000 people, more or less. was named for a Judge Parker. Armstrong Historical Society should have more information available.I graduated High School in Parker in 1948. and attended my 50 year reunion in 1998 and still have many friends and relatives in that area. I live in California now. Pearl --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Pearl, Thank you so much for the reply. I just > got back from Butler > County. Sent a week looking for Parker's and > relatives. Guess I should have > stayed on the computer! Anyway, any information is > very much appreciated. My > mailing address is: James Wick Parker, PO Box 5555, > Middleburg, VA 20118. > Thank you. > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > Jim: Good to hear from you of your interest in > the > > Reep Family Association. Betty Irwin Parker was > the > > secretary of the Reep Family Association and the > > letter was from her to Gladys Walley. I will be > glad > > to mail you a copy if you send me privately your > post > > office mailing address. She lived in Petrolia, > Butler > > County, and her children still live in the same > area. > > It would be wonderful if they would donate her > > wonderful research to a Historical Society so it > would > > not be lost. In 2000, an obit of her brother," > John R. > > Irwin"12/6/1925 9 11/2000 listed her as living in > > Florida and remarried. Her husband was Edward > Joseph > > Parker 4 8 1917/6 15 1980...and her parents were > David > > Conrad Irwin and Iola Ruth Reep. > > --- Jim Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Hi, I am replying to Pearl via this email. I am > > >> interested in the letter > > >> that Betty Irwin Parker has from the Reep > Family > > >> Association. In fact, I > > >> would like more information on contacting the > Reep > > >> Family Association. I am > > >> related to the Reep family. I am almost sure > that > > >> Betty Irwin Parker is in > > >> the Parker line also. Please email me with any > > >> nugget of information you > > >> have on these items I have listed. Thank you. > James > > >> Wick Parker. > > >> [email protected] > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:42 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Census > > >> > > >> > > >> > Eileen: Have been reading your replies with > much > > >> > interest and now have a question for you > about my > > >> > family....are you related to the Irwin family > of > > >> > Petrolia area, Butler County, Pa. We have a > > >> letter > > >> > written in 1970's for the Reep Family > Association > > >> by > > >> > Betty Irwin Parker, about the Walley Family > and > > >> how > > >> > they were related. She was an excellent > > >> researcher, > > >> > back long before computors. I research the > Walley > > >> > Family. Pearl > > >> > --- Eileen Irwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > >> Yes, Ann, I am subscribed to several > rootsweb > > >> mail > > >> > >> lists. I have been doing > > >> > >> genealogy for almost 30 years and have > given > > >> much, > > >> > >> much more information through > > >> > >> the lists than I have received. I have > text > > >> files > > >> > >> explaining the census (years > > >> > >> and contents), the formation of the > counties of > > >> > >> Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West > > >> > >> Virginia (years formed and parent > counties), > > >> early > > >> > >> westward migration and > > >> > >> expansion, etc. I have "shared" my data > > >> including > > >> > >> source information and > > >> > >> documentation. I hope I have helped many > with > > >> my > > >> > >> posts. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Some of those who have not done genealogy > prior > > >> to > > >> > >> the internet have no clue how > > >> > >> to do research off the net, including > using a > > >> map to > > >> > >> locate places (cities or > > >> > >> towns) or a dictionary (for various terms > and > > >> > >> definitions) or even an > > >> > >> encyclopedia (for historical perspective). > > >> > >> > > >> > >> You are absolutely correct. It is far > easier > > >> to > > >> > >> post a query on a mail list > > >> > >> than to actually do any research for > yourself > > >> or to > > >> > >> latch on to one of the > > >> > >> compiled trees and have your "family" go > back > > >> to 360 > > >> > >> A.D. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Eileen Irwin > > >> > >> Mesa, AZ > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Ann Avery Hunter wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Eileen wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > I blame much of the ignorance on > > >> things/places > > >> > >> like Family Tree Maker; World > > >> > >> > > Family Tree; ancestry.com and even > > >> rootsweb. > > >> > >> Their priorities are selling > > >> > >> > > products and information and leading > the > > >> novices > > >> > >> to believe that genealogy is > > >> > >> > > quick and easy. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I have been doing genealogical research > for > > >> over > > >> > >> 45 years and am definitely > > >> > >> > no novice, and I give thanks every day > of my > > >> life > > >> > >> for > > >> > >> > Ancestry.com and Rootsweb. 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I haven't even fully begun to consider searching the Parker side of my husband's family, but since you brought it up...My husband's grandmother was an only child, reportedly born in the Armstrong County Courthouse where her father may have been a sheriff or something...her name was Phoebe Marshall Parker, daughter of William Peary Parker and Delta Rose Davis. She married Arnold Benjamin Woodall, son of Samuel Woodall and Annie Hirst. Does this ring any bells with the Parker searchers? My husband's family used to do a yearly reunion in Parker, PA on Memorial Day, but that has fallen by the wayside. Thanks! Lauri in Indiana PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > Hi Bev, To answer your question, I could be! Seems their were two Parker > families running around Western PA. One set came up from the South and one > set came from the East (NY and NJ). Mine came from NY and NJ they settled in > Butler and Armstrong County. The other Parker family, from the South, > settled in Butler and Armstrong County. See where I am going with this? I > have better luck tracing the female that married the Parker. It's kin of a > back door approach, but it works sometime. I am not going to say I don't > have kin in NY. I just haven't located them, YET!!!! Send me what you have > and I will try to connect. I just got back from spending a week looking for > Parker's. I have a lot of information that has to be entered in my files. I > will keep looking for a connection. James Wick Parker. > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Betty Irwin Parker > > > > To Jim Parker: Are you related to any Parkers from Nunda or around > > Livingston > > County, NY Bev., Ohio > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >