Hi: Queenstown is a small community, a turn off to right toward Petrolia from main road from East Brady to Bradys Bend, located in Perry Township, Armstrong County. --- Ortzs <[email protected]> wrote: > Is Queenstown near Kittanning? I didn't see it on a > map? > > My ancestors, as I have been told traveled up the > Alleghany....that is why I > am looking for the Catholic church that would have > been before St. Patrick's > in Brady's Bend. > > Thanks for the help > > Michelle > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:56 PM > Subject: PAARMSTR-D Digest V01 #179 > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Hello: There is a cemetery in East Brady for St. Eusebius Catholic Church, 301 E. 2nd St., East Brady, Pa. 16028 Phone 724 526 3366.....Also a priest would visit Catfish, Sarah Furnace and give mass and communion in a community building, this according to the Catfish local history book. There is also a very old cemetery in Queenstown.I understand that was a church that was torn down for St. Paul and St. Peter............................................... ..A log church was built at Sugar Creek and was the oldest Catholic church, first served by visiting priest..Pearl --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > To the best of my knowledge St. Patrick's was the > first Catholic > > Church in the area close to Brady's Bend. > > > > If anyone does come up with anything before this, > please share that > > information with all of us on the list. > > > According to 'If These Hills Could Talk', prior to > 1866, Catholics > traveled 2 miles to Queenstown to S.S. Peter and > Paul Church. Then > around 1866-1867, two Catholic Churches were built > in Brady's Bend. > These were St. Patrick's and St. Mary's German > Catholic Church. > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

From "If These Hills Could Talk," page 169, it states as follows: St. Patrick's Founded "Seeing the dire need for another Roman Catholic church in Bradys Bend, Father Walsh of Queenstown attempted to secure a suitable location for the new place of worship. Finally he procured a lot from the iron company on the north bank of Sugar Creek, along a country road and almost in the center of the town. Here in the new church with a seating capacity of 600 was erected. In 1864 the cornerstone was blessed and laid by the Rt. Rev. Michael Dominic, Bishop of Pittsburgh. The new building was dedicated in 1866 by the bishop and placed under the patronage of St. Patrick. Father Walsh remained with the congregation, and in 1867 the iron company made a second land grant for building a pastoral residence." On page 168 it states, "The size and diversity of the Catholic population made it natural that while the town was in its heyday not one, but two Catholic churches eventually were founded in Bradys Bend. Although its early records were destroyed in a fire, leaving its beginnings somewhat shrouded in mystery, St. Mary's German Catholic Church may have been the first to be erected. In an 1867 land release "the St. Mary's German Catholic Church lot" is named as a boundary of a lot conveyed to Bishop Michael Dominic in trust for St. Patrick's Congregation. (That conveyance was also "after the fact," however, for St. Patrick's had been dedicated in 1866)." My son and daughter-in-law were married in the new church seven years ago Linda -----Original Message----- From: Paul & Bonnie Kidder <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] What church? >From >"The History of St. Patrick's", > this article appeared in the Catholic Accent on Thursday, ( I don't have >the next page ). I believe I received my copy from the Diocese of Greenburg, >723 East Pittsburgh Street, Greensburg, PA 15601-2697, 724-837-0901, FAX >724-837-0857 >Third paragraph down it says, "St. Patrick's Church, situated in Armstrong >County, Pennsylvania, at a place known as Sugar Creek, not far from the >Butler County Line, is the oldest Catholic church west of the Allegheny >Mountains. Only 18 years short of two centuries (which if I figured right >this article was written in 1988) this church founded in 1806, began humbly >with colorful and illustrious personalities." >The address I have for the church is; >Saint Patrick Church >R. D. 1, Box 78 >Brady's Bend, Pennsylvania 16028 >I have a letter signed by Tricia L. Howard with the Saint Patrick Church >letterhead > >If one has not been to this site, it is well worth the trip, it is a >beautiful spot of our big wide wonderful world. >I have pictures I can send to the website for folks to see, if the webmaster >can put up pictures. >Bonnie Kidder >Annandale, VA >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mickey Cendrowski" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 18:37 >Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] What church? > > >> Michelle, >> >> To the best of my knowledge St. Patrick's was the first Catholic >> Church in the area close to Brady's Bend. >> >> If anyone does come up with anything before this, please share that >> information with all of us on the list. >> >> Mickey >> [email protected] >> >> Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page >> http://mickey.pa-roots.com >> >> Mickey's Genealogy Web Page >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027 >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >> >> > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

From "The History of St. Patrick's", this article appeared in the Catholic Accent on Thursday, ( I don't have the next page ). I believe I received my copy from the Diocese of Greenburg, 723 East Pittsburgh Street, Greensburg, PA 15601-2697, 724-837-0901, FAX 724-837-0857 Third paragraph down it says, "St. Patrick's Church, situated in Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, at a place known as Sugar Creek, not far from the Butler County Line, is the oldest Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains. Only 18 years short of two centuries (which if I figured right this article was written in 1988) this church founded in 1806, began humbly with colorful and illustrious personalities." The address I have for the church is; Saint Patrick Church R. D. 1, Box 78 Brady's Bend, Pennsylvania 16028 I have a letter signed by Tricia L. Howard with the Saint Patrick Church letterhead If one has not been to this site, it is well worth the trip, it is a beautiful spot of our big wide wonderful world. I have pictures I can send to the website for folks to see, if the webmaster can put up pictures. Bonnie Kidder Annandale, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Cendrowski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 18:37 Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] What church? > Michelle, > > To the best of my knowledge St. Patrick's was the first Catholic > Church in the area close to Brady's Bend. > > If anyone does come up with anything before this, please share that > information with all of us on the list. > > Mickey > [email protected] > > Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page > http://mickey.pa-roots.com > > Mickey's Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027 > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

For easy directions to the genealogy library in Kittanning Going towards the courthouse on Market Street: Turn left at the light right below the courthouse onto North Grant. At the "Museum Parking" sign on the left (just after the old railraod station) turn in and park, come on in.. From the courthouse parking lot: Turn left on Market. At the first light make a right on North Grant. Proceed to "Museum Parking" sign as before. Linda

You may be able to go to Mapquest on your computer and it will give you a little map of the streets. Bev. Ohio

> > To the best of my knowledge St. Patrick's was the first Catholic > Church in the area close to Brady's Bend. > > If anyone does come up with anything before this, please share that > information with all of us on the list. According to 'If These Hills Could Talk', prior to 1866, Catholics traveled 2 miles to Queenstown to S.S. Peter and Paul Church. Then around 1866-1867, two Catholic Churches were built in Brady's Bend. These were St. Patrick's and St. Mary's German Catholic Church. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Michelle, To the best of my knowledge St. Patrick's was the first Catholic Church in the area close to Brady's Bend. If anyone does come up with anything before this, please share that information with all of us on the list. Mickey [email protected] Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://mickey.pa-roots.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

Just thought that I would take the time to write about a personal experience of mine, that perhaps may inspire others in their own genealogical journeys. About a year and a half ago my Dad died. When my brother and sisters went to clear out his small apartment we found some old family photos that my Dad had saved sitting in a suitcase by the door. These were photos that my Grandparents had when they were alive. Almost every photo was just loose, lying in the suitcase, with no information on them at all to identify any of the individuals. After briefly looking through these photos, I put them aside, as it was just too much to deal with emotionally. Then about a week ago I happened upon an old 1927 photo album that had never been used. It looked brand new and came complete with about 8 packages of those small black corners used for mounting the photos. When I inquired at the yard sale about the price, the lady said that she only wanted a buck for it. Needless to say I bought the album. And as life would happen to be, my van broke down and had to go in for repairs so I was stuck at home today with no transportation and no Internet because I had to keep the phone lines open for the car dealership. What to do with a full day at home. Well, today I took out those pictures that my Dad had kept that used to belong to his Mom and I gave them all a place in this new album that I bought. Looks just like it was Grandma's now. Tomorrow I will work on making sure that everyone is identified, then the album will be complete. While I can't bring my Dad or my Grandparents back, at least I can do something by doing this album for them, so that they may not be forgotten. I had to do this as the next generation after me would not know the majority of these people. It was something that had to be done and I am happy that I have at least now done this much. Perhaps many of you are in the same situation. Sometimes it is hard going back and looking at pictures of those who have died, but know that this is something that in time you too may be able to do. So instead of feeling sorry for myself, because of van troubles and being stranded at home, I took the day to do something for those who came before me. Grandma would be proud of me! Thank you all for lettting me share this story with you. And, yes, I also cried too! Mickey [email protected] Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://mickey.pa-roots.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

can someone tell me what Catholic church would have been estab. in a river town before St. Patrick's in Brady's Bend? Thank you , Michelle

Thank you, This helps me. I plan to get up that way in August. Bonnie Kidder Annandale, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson, Linda (FRTC_NY)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:49 Subject: RE: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > I am originally from the Kittanning area so I did the best thing I could > think of - call mom (who still lives there) for directions. She said when > you leave the court house and go down Main Street the first cross street is > North Grant (you will have just crossed the railroad tracks), then is North > McKean (on that corner will be Mellon Bank). Continue down Main Street and > make a right turn at North Jefferson (on that corner is Farmers Bank). After > you turn right onto North Jefferson, the next street you come to is Vine > Street, then West High Street after that. I would turn right onto West High > and then right onto North McKean. The library should be on North McKean > between West High and Vine. > > I hope this helps. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > > > I'm a little familiar with Kittanning, and I hope to go to the library > today. But could someone tell me where in Kittanning it's at? I need some > directions. I have no idea which street is which. I know where the court > house is, if that helps. > Thanks, Lori > > The Genealogy Express > http://www.geocities.com/genealogy_express > Surnames from Indiana, Co. PA: Brilhart, Penrose, Carnahan, Braughler, > McDonald, Tomb, Donahue. > > Surnames from Armstrong Co. PA: Alcorn, Hice, Shannon, Beer, Walker, > Fitzgerald, Howell, McGranahan, Rupert, Rupp, Rearick. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: IRENE A D'AMATO > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > > > Hi, Just to let you all know the Armstrong County Historical Museum and > Genealogical Society has a Genealogical Library. The address is > The Mildred Lankerd-Thomas Genealogical Library > P O Box 735, > 300 North McKean Street, > Kittanning, PA 16201-1345. > 724-548-5707 > The library is open 12 - 4 Tues. Wed., and Thursday. > Connie Mateer is the librarian and she has a great staff. She and the > staff > there will do research for you for about $8.00 per hour. They have a lot > of > major sources there and they are close to the courthouse, too. Connie has > written several books. They have all kinds of family histories, cemetery > records, obits, early newspaper abstracts, as well as complete Armstrong > county census. I have used them several times and have found them quite > helpful. Linda Mockenhaupt at [email protected] works there also. > Just remember the library is funded by donations when you ask for help. > > Irene D'Amato in Maryland > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rcbeach" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:00 PM > Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > > > > Hi > > Is their any one on this list who goes to the Armstrong county court > house, > > who I could Hire to look up a couple things. > > > > if so email me at [email protected] > > > > THANK YOU > > Ryan > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > >

Here is my two cents. I was born and raised in the Vandergrift area but don't remember when the newspaper was changed from a daily to a weekly. It is still called The Vandergrift News published as a Buttermilk Falls Co. Publication. I still get the newspaper so checked my last one for an email address but apparently they don't have one. The best I can do is give the telephone number - 724-567-5656. The office is located at 143 Washington Ave, Vandergrift, PA 15690. If I can help further, contact me. Bobby

By the way, the street I refer to as "main street" is called Market Street. Also I forgot to type in that Arch Street is right before Vine. If I didn't get the directions or streets down perfectly - someone please correct me. I tried to fill in the blanks from memory after I got the basic street names from my mom. Also, you might want to use www.mapquest.com. You can enter the court house as a starting point and enter the library as an ending point and get the driving directions turn by turn. -----Original Message----- From: Watson, Linda (FRTC_NY) Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:50 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house I am originally from the Kittanning area so I did the best thing I could think of - call mom (who still lives there) for directions. She said when you leave the court house and go down Main Street the first cross street is North Grant (you will have just crossed the railroad tracks), then is North McKean (on that corner will be Mellon Bank). Continue down Main Street and make a right turn at North Jefferson (on that corner is Farmers Bank). After you turn right onto North Jefferson, the next street you come to is Vine Street, then West High Street after that. I would turn right onto West High and then right onto North McKean. The library should be on North McKean between West High and Vine. I hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Lori [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house I'm a little familiar with Kittanning, and I hope to go to the library today. But could someone tell me where in Kittanning it's at? I need some directions. I have no idea which street is which. I know where the court house is, if that helps. Thanks, Lori The Genealogy Express http://www.geocities.com/genealogy_express Surnames from Indiana, Co. PA: Brilhart, Penrose, Carnahan, Braughler, McDonald, Tomb, Donahue. Surnames from Armstrong Co. PA: Alcorn, Hice, Shannon, Beer, Walker, Fitzgerald, Howell, McGranahan, Rupert, Rupp, Rearick. ----- Original Message ----- From: IRENE A D'AMATO To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house Hi, Just to let you all know the Armstrong County Historical Museum and Genealogical Society has a Genealogical Library. The address is The Mildred Lankerd-Thomas Genealogical Library P O Box 735, 300 North McKean Street, Kittanning, PA 16201-1345. 724-548-5707 The library is open 12 - 4 Tues. Wed., and Thursday. Connie Mateer is the librarian and she has a great staff. She and the staff there will do research for you for about $8.00 per hour. They have a lot of major sources there and they are close to the courthouse, too. Connie has written several books. They have all kinds of family histories, cemetery records, obits, early newspaper abstracts, as well as complete Armstrong county census. I have used them several times and have found them quite helpful. Linda Mockenhaupt at [email protected] works there also. Just remember the library is funded by donations when you ask for help. Irene D'Amato in Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "rcbeach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > Hi > Is their any one on this list who goes to the Armstrong county court house, > who I could Hire to look up a couple things. > > if so email me at [email protected] > > THANK YOU > Ryan > > ______________________________ ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

I am originally from the Kittanning area so I did the best thing I could think of - call mom (who still lives there) for directions. She said when you leave the court house and go down Main Street the first cross street is North Grant (you will have just crossed the railroad tracks), then is North McKean (on that corner will be Mellon Bank). Continue down Main Street and make a right turn at North Jefferson (on that corner is Farmers Bank). After you turn right onto North Jefferson, the next street you come to is Vine Street, then West High Street after that. I would turn right onto West High and then right onto North McKean. The library should be on North McKean between West High and Vine. I hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Lori [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house I'm a little familiar with Kittanning, and I hope to go to the library today. But could someone tell me where in Kittanning it's at? I need some directions. I have no idea which street is which. I know where the court house is, if that helps. Thanks, Lori The Genealogy Express http://www.geocities.com/genealogy_express Surnames from Indiana, Co. PA: Brilhart, Penrose, Carnahan, Braughler, McDonald, Tomb, Donahue. Surnames from Armstrong Co. PA: Alcorn, Hice, Shannon, Beer, Walker, Fitzgerald, Howell, McGranahan, Rupert, Rupp, Rearick. ----- Original Message ----- From: IRENE A D'AMATO To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house Hi, Just to let you all know the Armstrong County Historical Museum and Genealogical Society has a Genealogical Library. The address is The Mildred Lankerd-Thomas Genealogical Library P O Box 735, 300 North McKean Street, Kittanning, PA 16201-1345. 724-548-5707 The library is open 12 - 4 Tues. Wed., and Thursday. Connie Mateer is the librarian and she has a great staff. She and the staff there will do research for you for about $8.00 per hour. They have a lot of major sources there and they are close to the courthouse, too. Connie has written several books. They have all kinds of family histories, cemetery records, obits, early newspaper abstracts, as well as complete Armstrong county census. I have used them several times and have found them quite helpful. Linda Mockenhaupt at [email protected] works there also. Just remember the library is funded by donations when you ask for help. Irene D'Amato in Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "rcbeach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > Hi > Is their any one on this list who goes to the Armstrong county court house, > who I could Hire to look up a couple things. > > if so email me at [email protected] > > THANK YOU > Ryan > > ______________________________ ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

I'm a little familiar with Kittanning, and I hope to go to the library today. But could someone tell me where in Kittanning it's at? I need some directions. I have no idea which street is which. I know where the court house is, if that helps. Thanks, Lori The Genealogy Express http://www.geocities.com/genealogy_express Surnames from Indiana, Co. PA: Brilhart, Penrose, Carnahan, Braughler, McDonald, Tomb, Donahue. Surnames from Armstrong Co. PA: Alcorn, Hice, Shannon, Beer, Walker, Fitzgerald, Howell, McGranahan, Rupert, Rupp, Rearick. ----- Original Message ----- From: IRENE A D'AMATO To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house Hi, Just to let you all know the Armstrong County Historical Museum and Genealogical Society has a Genealogical Library. The address is The Mildred Lankerd-Thomas Genealogical Library P O Box 735, 300 North McKean Street, Kittanning, PA 16201-1345. 724-548-5707 The library is open 12 - 4 Tues. Wed., and Thursday. Connie Mateer is the librarian and she has a great staff. She and the staff there will do research for you for about $8.00 per hour. They have a lot of major sources there and they are close to the courthouse, too. Connie has written several books. They have all kinds of family histories, cemetery records, obits, early newspaper abstracts, as well as complete Armstrong county census. I have used them several times and have found them quite helpful. Linda Mockenhaupt at [email protected] works there also. Just remember the library is funded by donations when you ask for help. Irene D'Amato in Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "rcbeach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > Hi > Is their any one on this list who goes to the Armstrong county court house, > who I could Hire to look up a couple things. > > if so email me at [email protected] > > THANK YOU > Ryan > > ______________________________ ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

For anyone trying to reach Linda Mockenhaupt the correct address is : [email protected] or [email protected] me

Larry, Loved your article.........so many true and interesting facts. I grew up in Markle, which is next to Lower Burrell, a bit up the road, which is next to New Kensington, which is next to Tarentum.....and still the home of the Valley Daily News. I have found LOTS of stuff on my Reese/Griffiths side (Washington Co.), Evans/Ewig/McDonald sides (Bedford and Allegheny Co.) and Spencer/Miller side (Armstrong Co.), from the Valley Daily News Obits. Happy hunting everyone! Maureen Reese-Vorp Apollo, PA -----Original Message----- From: Larry Clever [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Hmmm, Vandergrift? Time to join the discussion. I grew up in the Tarentum area, and enjoyed the Valley Daily News during those years. It had excellent local coverage and actually had national news - or enough national news that you felt like you knew what was going on in the world . . . even if it wasn't the New York Times coverage. Fred, I won't let you move the old Tarentum paper to Vandergrift, no matter how special it was to folks in the Allegheny-Kiski Valley! The Valley Daily News was later merged with the New Kensington paper and ended up as the Valley News Dispatch with a much broader circulation base. The Community Library of Allegheny Valley, 315 E. 6th Avenue, Tarentum, PA 15084 Phone: (724) 226-0770, has an extensive collection of newspapers, including the Tarentum Telegram (1902-1912), Evening Telegram (1914-1921), Valley Daily News/Valley News Dispatch (1904-1973, 1991-March 1999), Natrona Daily Press (May-August 1923), and the Freeport Journal (1879-1905). I am unfamiliar with the current policy at the Valley News Dispatch since it became part of the Tribune-Review family of newspapers, but I do know that while the Gannett chain held the paper, access was severely limited. It certainly cannot be worse now, but the Community Library's collection provides access to all but the 1973-1991 issues, no matter what the policy is at the paper. Access to obituaries has been important in my 30+ years of genealogical research. My first family outline was built from information gleaned from obituaries printed in the Valley Daily News, ranging from a great-grandfather killed in an industrial accident at the Tarentum Glass Works and a great uncle who was killed in a train accident at Penn Salt in Natrona to the more prosaic and natural endings of life of beloved grandparents and other, more distant relatives (in pre-Gannett days). I'm sure that few of us would question the value of obituaries in securing research leads, and we should encourage anything that provides significant access to obituaries. There is nothing like reading in your mother's cousin's obituary that your second cousin had moved to Anywhere, USA so that you have an opportunity to chase him or her down. My great-grandmother's brother moved to Minnesota - a fact deduced solely from a notation of old at the end of her obituary asking that a specific paper in Minnesota please copy the obituary. From small clues and hard work come interesting discoveries. The Armstrong County Pennsylvania Genealogy Project has a specific section for posting obituaries. Many researchers have posted obituaries, including this writer, and many more should. Access to obituaries, whether 100 years or 100 days old, is one important avenue to learning more and kudos to those who take the time to make such access easier. And, very importantly, the site search tool provides an efficient means of finding specific surnames within obituaries, a convenience that few newspaper web sites offer. Larry A. Clever ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

Hi, Just to let you all know the Armstrong County Historical Museum and Genealogical Society has a Genealogical Library. The address is The Mildred Lankerd-Thomas Genealogical Library P O Box 735, 300 North McKean Street, Kittanning, PA 16201-1345. 724-548-5707 The library is open 12 - 4 Tues. Wed., and Thursday. Connie Mateer is the librarian and she has a great staff. She and the staff there will do research for you for about $8.00 per hour. They have a lot of major sources there and they are close to the courthouse, too. Connie has written several books. They have all kinds of family histories, cemetery records, obits, early newspaper abstracts, as well as complete Armstrong county census. I have used them several times and have found them quite helpful. Linda Mockenhaupt at [email protected] works there also. Just remember the library is funded by donations when you ask for help. Irene D'Amato in Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "rcbeach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong county court house > Hi > Is their any one on this list who goes to the Armstrong county court house, > who I could Hire to look up a couple things. > > if so email me at [email protected] > > THANK YOU > Ryan > > ______________________________

Time to join the discussion. I grew up in the Tarentum area, and enjoyed the Valley Daily News during those years. It had excellent local coverage and actually had national news - or enough national news that you felt like you knew what was going on in the world . . . even if it wasn't the New York Times coverage. Fred, I won't let you move the old Tarentum paper to Vandergrift, no matter how special it was to folks in the Allegheny-Kiski Valley! The Valley Daily News was later merged with the New Kensington paper and ended up as the Valley News Dispatch with a much broader circulation base. The Community Library of Allegheny Valley, 315 E. 6th Avenue, Tarentum, PA 15084 Phone: (724) 226-0770, has an extensive collection of newspapers, including the Tarentum Telegram (1902-1912), Evening Telegram (1914-1921), Valley Daily News/Valley News Dispatch (1904-1973, 1991-March 1999), Natrona Daily Press (May-August 1923), and the Freeport Journal (1879-1905). I am unfamiliar with the current policy at the Valley News Dispatch since it became part of the Tribune-Review family of newspapers, but I do know that while the Gannett chain held the paper, access was severely limited. It certainly cannot be worse now, but the Community Library's collection provides access to all but the 1973-1991 issues, no matter what the policy is at the paper. Access to obituaries has been important in my 30+ years of genealogical research. My first family outline was built from information gleaned from obituaries printed in the Valley Daily News, ranging from a great-grandfather killed in an industrial accident at the Tarentum Glass Works and a great uncle who was killed in a train accident at Penn Salt in Natrona to the more prosaic and natural endings of life of beloved grandparents and other, more distant relatives (in pre-Gannett days). I'm sure that few of us would question the value of obituaries in securing research leads, and we should encourage anything that provides significant access to obituaries. There is nothing like reading in your mother's cousin's obituary that your second cousin had moved to Anywhere, USA so that you have an opportunity to chase him or her down. My great-grandmother's brother moved to Minnesota - a fact deduced solely from a notation of old at the end of her obituary asking that a specific paper in Minnesota please copy the obituary. From small clues and hard work come interesting discoveries. The Armstrong County Pennsylvania Genealogy Project has a specific section for posting obituaries. Many researchers have posted obituaries, including this writer, and many more should. Access to obituaries, whether 100 years or 100 days old, is one important avenue to learning more and kudos to those who take the time to make such access easier. And, very importantly, the site search tool provides an efficient means of finding specific surnames within obituaries, a convenience that few newspaper web sites offer. Larry A. Clever

"The Armstrong County Pennsylvania Genealogy Project has a specific section for posting obituaries. Many researchers have posted obituaries, including this writer, and many more should. Access to obituaries, whether 100 years or 100 days old, is one important avenue to learning more and kudos to those who take the time to make such access easier. And, very importantly, the site search tool provides an efficient means of finding specific surnames within obituaries, a convenience that few newspaper web sites offer." This is where I have also posted a lot of family obituaries. I, too, find them an invaluable resource. Was Fred referring specifically to obits coming through the mailing list only? Linda