There was a Buttermilk Falls that I visited many times as a youth in Leechburg, at least that's what we called it. It was on the hillside across the river from Leechburg in Allegheny Twp, Westmoreland Co on a small stream that is in the valley that PA56 goes S toward Weinel's Crossroads. The road that goes to West Leechburg crosses over the stream. I might add that many of these natural features that we knew by name are actually on the modern local maps of the area with those same names. >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:34:40 -0500 >From: Sher Dantzer <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PAARMSTR-L] Hmmm, Vandergrift? > >Bobby. Is there an area around Vandergrift called Buttermilk Falls? I >noticed you said the Vandergrift paper was a Buttermilk Falls Publication. >Can you tell me about where this area might be? My grandmother's family >the Collingwoods & McMillens had reunions there. Thanks Sher > > >At 10:34 AM 7/10/01 EDT, you wrote: >>Here is my two cents. I was born and raised in the Vandergrift area but >>don't remember when the newspaper was changed from a daily to a weekly. It >>is still called The Vandergrift News published as a Buttermilk Falls Co. >>Publication. >> >>I still get the newspaper so checked my last one for an email address but >>apparently they don't have one. The best I can do is give the telephone >>number - 724-567-5656. >>The office is located at 143 Washington Ave, Vandergrift, PA 15690. >> >>If I can help further, contact me. >> >>Bobby >> >> >>==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > -- mailto:[email protected]

Thanks for the info. Where abouts is Ligonier? Sher At 09:02 AM 7/21/01 EDT, you wrote: >Hi Sher: > >Buttermilk Falls is in the vicinity of Ligonier, PA , I'm not familiar with >this area. > >Bobby > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > >

The Armstrong County Genealogy Society has copies of it in a book in their library also. I don't know if they have an index for it. I didn't have too much trouble reading it (not much more than the 1876 map), so these might be better copies. ---------- > From: Mickey Cendrowski <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Re: Armstrong Co. twp./map/plat owners > Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:29 PM > > I have a copy of an 1861 Armstrong County Map that has the names of > land owners on it. > > My copy was made from the copy that the Armstrong County Court House > Map Division has. > > It is on one huge sheet of paper, that I unroll when needed. The names > are a little fuzzy, due to the fact that it is a copy made version and > not a published typed version. > > Cost I believe was about $4.00 a year ago. > > I might add that they will not make you a copy if there is too much > dampness in the air. Something about the ink will run too much. > > At any rate, what I wanted to stress was the date of this map - that > being 1861. > > To the best of my knowledge there is no idex to this map, but there is > one for the 1876 map published in book form by Mechling. > > Mickey > [email protected] > > Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page > http://mickey.pa-roots.com > > Mickey's Genealogy Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027 > > > > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== >

Bobby. Is there an area around Vandergrift called Buttermilk Falls? I noticed you said the Vandergrift paper was a Buttermilk Falls Publication. Can you tell me about where this area might be? My grandmother's family the Collingwoods & McMillens had reunions there. Thanks Sher At 10:34 AM 7/10/01 EDT, you wrote: >Here is my two cents. I was born and raised in the Vandergrift area but >don't remember when the newspaper was changed from a daily to a weekly. It >is still called The Vandergrift News published as a Buttermilk Falls Co. >Publication. > >I still get the newspaper so checked my last one for an email address but >apparently they don't have one. The best I can do is give the telephone >number - 724-567-5656. >The office is located at 143 Washington Ave, Vandergrift, PA 15690. > >If I can help further, contact me. > >Bobby > > >==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > > >

I have a copy of an 1861 Armstrong County Map that has the names of land owners on it. My copy was made from the copy that the Armstrong County Court House Map Division has. It is on one huge sheet of paper, that I unroll when needed. The names are a little fuzzy, due to the fact that it is a copy made version and not a published typed version. Cost I believe was about $4.00 a year ago. I might add that they will not make you a copy if there is too much dampness in the air. Something about the ink will run too much. At any rate, what I wanted to stress was the date of this map - that being 1861. To the best of my knowledge there is no idex to this map, but there is one for the 1876 map published in book form by Mechling. Mickey [email protected] Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://mickey.pa-roots.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

I want to invite each of you to come by and check out the new photos at the Armstrong County Old Photos section of Western PA Old Photos. The Armstong County section has been up and running less that two weeks now.... and already we're growing strong! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawphoto/armstrong (And, if you can use the clickable link, here it is - - <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawphoto/armstrong">click here</A>) Here's the new photos we added: >From Shirley Barger Charles Widger Family Florence Widger Sarah Ralston >From Larry Scott Charles M. and Sarah Jane Milsom King J. Harvey and Leanna Samantha Lasher Wyant and family >From Jeffrey Yard Sarah McKinstry Brown >From Clarence R. Shirey Calvin Shiry Charles Monroe Shiry/Shirey Sadie Jane Shiry Copenhaver Chestnut Hill School 1914 Dayton School David Franklin Shiry Family Catherine Himes Haas Chestnut Hill School Simon Jonas and Roseanna Haas Shiry Elizabeth Mohney and Jacob Schick/Shick Sr. Unknown Woman Unknown Man Jessie Bernhard Shiry/Shirey and Nettie Neuter Shick Isaac F and Anna G Mohney Wise and their daughter Melda Wise Christian and Catherine Mohney Miller Adam G. Mohney Charles and Salina "Esther" Mohney Shiry/Shirey Four and Five Generations Lewis C. and Caroline Miller Shaffer Oliver J. and Rebecca Naomi Michael Shaffer Mary A. Shaffer Shirey George and Catherine Kunselman Gearhart Haring Mabel Shaffer Doverspike, Mary "Olga" Mowery Shaffer and Mary Shaffer Shirey Mabel, Paul, and Mary Shaffer Simon Jonas Shiry Family Samuel G. and Rebecca Shick Mohney Mrs. Miller Home of Johannes Many Sr. (John Mohney Sr.) Oliver J Shaffer Four Generations of the Shaffer Family Samuel and Rosina Fuchs/Fox Schafer/Shaffer Christian and Magdalena Farringer Shaffer New Salem Evangelical United Brethren Church Tanyard Neighbors and Friends New Salem Elementary School and Evangelical Assoc Church New Salem Elementary Two-Room School Dayton High School-Jr. High School Wise Reunion That brings our photo count to 60! Stop by and see us when you have a chance. Teri Western PA Old Photos

To "Michael Lewis", et. al. This is a very good map. Are you aware of any maps for Armstrong Co., that show the various twps. with the plat owners listed as per this map, ca. 1820-1830? Thank you for your time. Marybeth Corrigall [email protected] << Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:03:52 -0400 From: "Michael Lewis" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Washington Twp, Westmoreland Co 1760-1815 Mary, Take a look here. http://www.rootsweb.com/~paicgs/townships/washington.shtml Armstrong township was the second one north of the Conemaugh, and formerly encompased nearly half of present-day Indiana County south of the Purchase Line. The township was named after Colonel (later General) Armstrong who commanded the celebration against Kittanning. It seems to have been organized in 1784 or 1785. Washington Township was created from Armstrong Township in 1807. Center Township was formed from Armstrong Township in 1807 and was named for its position within the County. White Township was formed in 1843 and named for Judge Thomas White. It was created from parts of Center, Washington, Green, and Armstrong Townships. Rayne Township was created from Washington and Green Townships in 1845 If anybody knows the present days townships, I would also be interested. Thanks! Michael Lewis >Can anyone tell me exactly where Washington Twp in Westmoreland Co was >between the dates of 1760 and 1815? What towns are part of the >present >area now? Thanks so much! >Mary _________________________________________________________________

Donna There are counties that will issue a death certificate, all nicely done on parchment paper etc. for a fee of $7.00, I believe. I do not know if Armstrong county is one of them. But it is a futile expense, because the county will also forward the same information in a less 'formal' manner for a much lower expense. You probably do not want to spend the extra money for the same information. Many of the early records are spotty at best, and the county requirements for information are much less than the state requires. Also, even state records can be spotty in the early years, and be missing some information. But definitely, go ahead and inquire whether or not the information was registered. It is worth a try. The county kept records from 1893-1905, and then Pennsylvania started the state vital statistics in 1906. Charlene Calvert Pinkowski Charlene Calvert Pinkowski [email protected] NEW PERMANENT EMAIL ADDRESS You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. (Ralph Waldo Emerson) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Stieber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Armstrong Co Courthouse > Can someone please tell me the cost of a death certificate at the > courthouse. Thanks > Donna > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >

Donna: You can't get a death CERTIFICATE from the County Courthouse. The County Courthouses have death RECORDS. There is a difference. Death CERTIFICATES are issued from/by the state and cost $3.00 Only those persons who died in 1906 or after have death certificates. Death RECORDS are generally only ledger entries. What you will get for deaths prior to 1906 from the counties (if they have the record) is a photocopy of the line entry in the ledger. The counties weren't very good at keeping the records. Eileen Irwin Mesa, AZ Donna Stieber wrote: > > Can someone please tell me the cost of a death certificate at the > courthouse. Thanks > Donna > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

Can someone please tell me the cost of a death certificate at the courthouse. Thanks Donna

Came across the following list and thought it may be of some use. These are early naturalizations from the late 1700's and early 1800's. There are only a few: Stewart Davis Adam Elliott William Hemingway Henry Holt Alexander Patterson Thomas Rowley John Smith I don't have any further information. Linda

Karen and List, I have a copy of the 1935 Kittanning High School Yearbook, so I checked out the juniors names as they would have graduated in 1936. Found the following: Girls E. Wible Boys E. Wolfe Hope this info helps someone. Mickey [email protected] Mickey's Roll Call Mania Web Page http://mickey.pa-roots.com Mickey's Genealogy Web Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3027

Found this and thought I should post: For sale on E-Bay: A class ring with E.W.W. inside band. Made for Kittanning, PA High School in 1936. E-Bay Item # 1617356346 Thought someone might be looking for it! Karen

I'm afraid I don't really know. I have no other information on the Barnes family. So sorry. Becky Monette Sutherland wrote: > > Becky - was Nancy BARNES related to Porter Philander BARNES (m Luana C > WILLIS) b 1818 settled in 1875 in Exeter, Fillmore Nebraska? Through > marriage this BARNES family connects to my ca 1800 Armstrong Co families > of WINGARD, HERTZEL, HEILMAN and SILVIS. > Thank you, > Monette > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

I have a lot of information on the William Morrison you mentioned born in New Castle County, Delaware and who died in Amrstrong County, PA and who is buried near/in Slate Lick, Armstrong County. My wife is a direct descendant of his. Contact me and let me know your connection and what you would like to know. Sincerely, Richard J. Davis

I have a couple of MORRISONs in my database: Nancy MORRISON, b. 10 Oct, 1834; d., 3 Nov. 1895; m. Olivar Bovard FULTON. Nancy was the daughter of John MORRISON, Jr. and Jane (last name unknown). Nancy and Oliver had 4 children. Martha J. MORRISON, b. Sep. 1832; m. James FULTON. Martha and James had at least 6 children. These are not in my direct line but I have source references for them as well as a small bit more information. Eileen Irwin Mesa, AZ NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

Noticed the Barnes and Morrison talk and was wondering if anyone has anything on the following: William MORRISON b: abt. 1773 in New Castle, New Castle Co., Delaware, son of Robert MORRISON and Elizabeth CULBERTSON. This William MORRISON married Martha BARNES and had a daughter named Mary MORRISON. I have no dates or proof other than anothers account. William MORRISON died in Armstrong Co., PA, but have no dates for that either. Thanks, Julie Glidewell Woolbright Surnames in PA: MORRISON, CULBERTSON, JACK, VENSEL/WENTZEL/WENTSLE, SMITH, ANDERSON, ALTMAN, STITT, FRY, STUART and others distantly related.

Becky - was Nancy BARNES related to Porter Philander BARNES (m Luana C WILLIS) b 1818 settled in 1875 in Exeter, Fillmore Nebraska? Through marriage this BARNES family connects to my ca 1800 Armstrong Co families of WINGARD, HERTZEL, HEILMAN and SILVIS. Thank you, Monette

Hi John, I am related to this Morrison family through James B and Rebecca Schrader Morrison's first born child Milton B Morrison. I'll be glad to help you all I can. You can email me at [email protected] In the 1850 census I believe the family can be found in South Buffalo township, Armstrong county PA Page 104. I have information that Nancy Morrison married a James B Pemberthy? Is that information incorrect? Please respond. I also had that Nancy was the mother of thirteen children; 1) Elizabeth Pemberthy married a Mr. Van Fosen 2) Thomas 3) Anna who married a Mr. Anderson 4) William 5) Edward 6) Harry 7) John 8) James 9) Jennie who married a Mr. Smith 10) Katie who married a Mr. Shifley 11) Mary who married a Mr. Linden 12) Cora who married a Mr Vercythe 13) Ella who married a Mr. Van Fosen "The death record for Nancy, 1926, completed by son James b. 1856" This James is Nancy's brother I believe not her son. The 1860 census record is the correct family indeed and Mary Ann is a second wife. Sometime after 1870, James B Morrison moved to Surprise, Butler county Nebraska and opened the first Grocery store in the County. James was the son of John Morrison and Nancy Barnes. James was married three times. He had nine children to his first wife Elizabeth Schrader (also seen as Srader) who died Jan 14 1858. He then married Mary Ann Meldren who was born in England and died at age 64 on April 23 1889. There were two children born to this marriage. On Nov 21 1889 James married Mrs. Lovina Elliott who was born Sept 29 1824 in England and survived him by about six years. Lovina died in Surprise on Feb 15 1909. I hope this helps. Please get back to me on this. Becky Murphy Dahl John Hogg wrote: > > I have had several responses to my request for a lookup in these with no > results. There were other questions however so I am posting this to the > entire list. > > I have finally decided to start researching my Western Pennsylvania > Ancestors. > > This is regarding the family of James B Morrison, blacksmith. The family > appears in the Sugar Creek Township in 1860 and in East Franklin in 1870. > In that family is Nancy Morrison age 13 in 1860 who married 1865 in Bradys > Bend a William Penberthy. My ancestors. > > The death record for Nancy, 1926, completed by son James b.1856, said she > was 79 and born in Armstrong Co and that her father was James B Morrison and > mother was Rebecca Schreder. (secondary information!) I have been unable to > locate an 1850 census record. > > The 1860 record is the correct one because the children's names are > mentioned in later family letters. The mother in the 1860 record is a Mary > Ann which is a long way from Rebecca unless it is a second marriage. > > I have looked at census records for all Morrisons in Armstrong 1850 and all > J / James Morrisons in Armstrong, Venango and Butler Co. The James Morrison > in Bradys Bend page 032 in 1850 is not the correct person. I suspect he was > called James B Morrison to differentiate from the other James Morrison. > > I did notice in the will indexes as listing for a James Morrison for 1892 so > I will pursue that next. Next stop the local FHC for land, will, court and > church records. > > I go back to Atlantic City for vacation each year and spend 1-2 days > researching at the Historic Society of Pennsylvania. Last trip I saw they > had a number of rolls of bible records from Armstrong so I will put in a day > there. > > I have looked at spelling variations of Morrison, Morris, Morisson, > Morrissonn etc. I am about halfway through the line by line examination of > the 1850 Armstrong census but don't believe I will find everything. > > More information can be found on my web page which is still at > www.fastlane.net/~johnh . > > This will be moved soon because fastlane threw out all us dial up customers. > I can always be reached now at [email protected] > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ====

Hi John, I don't have any specific information but I am interested in your message. I have an Isaac and Catherine (WINGARD) SILVIS family of Allegheny Twp, Armstrong Co. They named one child Morrison and another child James Morrison. James was born in 1849. These do not seem to be family names so I have assumed that they are named after a family friend. Isaac and Catherine were born in Westmoreland Co. before moving to Armstrong abt 1829. I see that there is a James MORRISON in the 1850 census Allegheny Twp. Westmoreland Co. pg. 335. Have you checked this one out yet? I would be interested in hearing more if you find your James MORRISON. Regards, Mike Stewart Email: [email protected] FTM page: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Michael-James-Stewart/ Rootsweb: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=mstewa rt&surname=A ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hogg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: [PAARMSTR-L] Births, Deaths Marriages 1852-1855. > > I have had several responses to my request for a lookup in these with no > results. There were other questions however so I am posting this to the > entire list. > > I have finally decided to start researching my Western Pennsylvania > Ancestors. > > This is regarding the family of James B Morrison, blacksmith. The family > appears in the Sugar Creek Township in 1860 and in East Franklin in 1870. > In that family is Nancy Morrison age 13 in 1860 who married 1865 in Bradys > Bend a William Penberthy. My ancestors. > > The death record for Nancy, 1926, completed by son James b.1856, said she > was 79 and born in Armstrong Co and that her father was James B Morrison and > mother was Rebecca Schreder. (secondary information!) I have been unable to > locate an 1850 census record. > > The 1860 record is the correct one because the children's names are > mentioned in later family letters. The mother in the 1860 record is a Mary > Ann which is a long way from Rebecca unless it is a second marriage. > > I have looked at census records for all Morrisons in Armstrong 1850 and all > J / James Morrisons in Armstrong, Venango and Butler Co. The James Morrison > in Bradys Bend page 032 in 1850 is not the correct person. I suspect he was > called James B Morrison to differentiate from the other James Morrison. > > I did notice in the will indexes as listing for a James Morrison for 1892 so > I will pursue that next. Next stop the local FHC for land, will, court and > church records. > > I go back to Atlantic City for vacation each year and spend 1-2 days > researching at the Historic Society of Pennsylvania. Last trip I saw they > had a number of rolls of bible records from Armstrong so I will put in a day > there. > > I have looked at spelling variations of Morrison, Morris, Morisson, > Morrissonn etc. I am about halfway through the line by line examination of > the 1850 Armstrong census but don't believe I will find everything. > > More information can be found on my web page which is still at > www.fastlane.net/~johnh . > > This will be moved soon because fastlane threw out all us dial up customers. > I can always be reached now at [email protected] > > > ==== PAARMSTR Mailing List ==== > > >