Thanks from me, too... I really think Margaret CALDWELL (nee NEU) is daughter of Gottlieb NEU & Salome NEU (nee FALK). I have Margaret's birth as Feb 12, 1871. On the 1900 census with her husband listed as Frank CALDWELL and she as Maggie, it gives her date of birth as Feb 1871. ~Christmas blessings to all, Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: <roger@fyi.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] NEU obituary; interesting story about coming to America > Annie, I presume you have Margaret's headstone information but in case you > do know here are the Caldwells of First St. Paul German Evangelical Church > Cemetery, Penn Ave Mt Oliver Pa 15210 > Helen > CALDWELL, NORMAN M 5/15/1915-11/27/1918 Circle Rim A H64 > CALDWELL, ????? 1906-10/2/1906 SECF/G R13 H11 GUESSWORK > CALDWELL, ALONZO 1853-1923 SECF/G R13 H12 > CALDWELL, BENJAMIN C 1887-1956 SEC F/G R21 H4 > CALDWELL, F M 1868-1934 Circle Rim A H62 MD > CALDWELL, GEO W 3/14/1891-3/29/1907 SECF/G R13 H10 16 YEARS 15 DAYS > GUESSWORK > CALDWELL, MARGARET 1871-1957 Circle Rim A H63 > CALDWELL, MARGARET C 1889-1978 SEC F/G R21 H4 > CALDWELL, MARY B 1867-1936 SECF/G R13 H12 > CALDWELL? UNREADABLE Circle Rim A H65 ON CALDWELL LOT > > > > > Margaret NEU CALDWELL lived in Brentwood-- her husband was buried in what >> appears to be her family's favorite cemetery- the old St Paul's >> Lutheran - >> Cemetery. Two of her sons in law are buried there as well- Her son is >> buried in Yuba, CA. One son in law is buried at Mt Lebanon. >> She and Uncle Frank married abt 1894 in Allegheny Co. Interesting to >> note >> his family was in the Birmingham area at the same time the other NEU >> family is there-- feel there is a connection- her parents are listed as >> being born in Germany in a census, but she is listed as being born in PA- >> >> as far as I can tell, she should have a great granddaughter, married and >> living in Bethel Park (per a 2009 obit) >> >> >> there is a Margaret Caldwell buried at St Paul's who died after 1947 >> (which is when I have last known location for her)- >> >> annie >> >> >> >> On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> At first glance I don't see her in my tree. You can look on my website: >>> http://osman.tribalpages.com and see if you can come up with something. >>> Also, visit the website of Mark Dickson >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mdickson101/ . The surname NEU >>> is >>> under his maternal lines. >>> Please to email me privately. Together we may be able to find the >>> connection. I'm going to try and find her on census records and see if I >>> can >>> find out anything that way. >>> If anyone else is interested, please feel free to jump in. >>> ~Bev >>> bevart(at)frontiernet(dot)net >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "annie" <1anniesquest4me@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ALL] NEU obituary; interesting story about coming to >>> America >>> >>> >>>> very interesting-- especially since I have an unknown NEU from >>>> Pittsburgh >>>> in my family-- >>>> >>>> Could Margaret NEU b. abt 1871 in PA and died after 1947 be related to >>>> this group? Her parents are listed as being born in Germany in 1930 >>>> census >>>> for her >>>> >>>> She married Dr. Francis McClain CALDWELL abt 1894 in Allegheny Co, PA. >>>> They resided on Brentwood Ave in Allegheny Co. PA. >>>> >>>> She resided at the Concordia Old Folks Home in Cabot, PA in 1947 >>>> >>>> Her husband was my great grandma's brother- and he is buried in the St >>>> Paul's Cemetery as well- >>>> >>>> hoping for documented connection here! >>>> >>>> annie >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >>>> >>>>> I found an obituary for my 2nd great-granduncle, George Jacob NEU, who >>>>> arrived from Germany. He's the son of Valentine NEU who died in 1871 >>>>> and >>>>> is buried in Pittsburgh. I just thought this obit was very >>>>> interesting >>>>> about the coming to America. I hope you'll enjoy this little piece of >>>>> history in the fist paragraph. (His sister, Katharine Margaretha NEU >>>>> is >>>>> my ancestor. She married Mattew AUGENSTEIN. They lived and died in >>>>> Pittsburgh.) >>>>> >>>>> Washington County Register, Washington, Kansas, April, 1925: >>>>> George Jacob Neu was born in Prussia, Germany, about ten miles from >>>>> the >>>>> Rhine River, December 24, 1839 [should be 1838]. In 1846, his parents, >>>>> four brothers, and two sisters left Germany and journeyed overland in >>>>> a >>>>> covered wagon through Belgium and France to Havre, where they waited >>>>> two >>>>> weeks for a three-master to take them to America. Forty-four days were >>>>> spent on the water. Arriving in New York the family had a short ride >>>>> on >>>>> one of the crude trains of the forties, and then proceeded by boat to >>>>> Chambersburg, PA., and from there the journey was by stage, eight days >>>>> to >>>>> Pittsburg. >>>>> There young Jacob learned the shoemaker`s trade. He enlisted in the >>>>> Army >>>>> in 1864 and served until July, 1865, when he was mustered out. He was >>>>> the >>>>> last of the G.A.R. veterans to survive in Logan Township, and at the >>>>> time >>>>> of his death, Tuesday morning, April 14, at about 6:30, he was 86 >>>>> years, >>>>> 3 months, and 20 days old. It was on this day just forty-six years ago >>>>> that he moved to the home where he raised his family and spent his >>>>> declining years. In 1859, on Christmas Eve, his twenty-first birthday, >>>>> Grandfather Neu was united in marriage to Miss Anna Katherine Bishoff >>>>> [sic] at Pittsburg, Pa. To them were born twelve children, ten of whom >>>>> survive, together with their mother, to mourn the loss of a loving and >>>>> devoted father. Two daughters, Anna and Katherine, passed away in >>>>> infancy. With his wife and surviving children, he left Pittsburg at >>>>> the >>>>> time following the panic of `73 with what he managed to save out of >>>>> that >>>>> catastrophe, started to Kansas, arriving in Washington County! >>>> i! >>>>> n 1879, where he labored with his devoted wife to raise their ten >>>>> children. >>>>> He is survived by his widow, Katherine Bishoff Neu, now in her >>>>> eighty-second year, who lovingly ministered to him until the very >>>>> last, >>>>> and by four daughters, Miss Elizabeth Neu who lives at the old home; >>>>> Mrs. >>>>> Margaret Smith of Roca, Nebr.; Mrs. Emma Rossman of Pittsburg, Pa.; >>>>> Mrs. >>>>> Bertha Munch of Kansas City, K.; also six sons, Charles, William, and >>>>> Jacob, Jr. (sic), the youngest child, all of Washington County; >>>>> Benjamin >>>>> and Harry of Butler, Okla.; and George of Overton, Nebraska. There >>>>> were >>>>> thirty grandchildren and twenty-three great-grandchildren. Until 3 >>>>> years >>>>> ago he had enjoyed good health, but has suffered much at times since. >>>>> October of last year he was stricken with what proved to be his last >>>>> illness, but until two weeks ago, he was up and about the house every >>>>> day. He suffered much, but all pain left him about fifteen minutes >>>>> before >>>>> his passing away and he went as he had prayed many times, with a smile >>>>> on >>>>> his face. He prayed many times that the Lord would take him;! >>>> h! >>>>> e was ready to go. June of last year he wrote down many of the facts >>>>> here >>>>> given, and closed with these words, referring to his training at >>>>> Pittsburg: "I was trained in the Lutheran faith, and I will stick to >>>>> it >>>>> till the last." So passed one of the well known and loved pioneers of >>>>> this country. Among his last words were "Lift me higher." The funeral >>>>> service will be held at the home at 2 P.M. Friday April 17th, followed >>>>> by >>>>> services at St. Paul`s Ev. Lutheran Church at 3 P.M. >>>>> Interment to be in St. Paul`s Cemetery. Rev. C. Wilbur Nelson, pastor >>>>> in >>>>> charge of services. >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

by jove, I think we've almost proved it!! Maybe we can find her obit---- I have Uncle Frank's already. annie On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: > Thanks from me, too... > I really think Margaret CALDWELL (nee NEU) is daughter of Gottlieb NEU & > Salome NEU (nee FALK). > I have Margaret's birth as Feb 12, 1871. On the 1900 census with her husband > listed as Frank CALDWELL and she as Maggie, it gives her date of birth as > Feb 1871. > ~Christmas blessings to all, > Bev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roger@fyi.net> > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:53 PM > Subject: Re: [ALL] NEU obituary; interesting story about coming to America > > >> Annie, I presume you have Margaret's headstone information but in case you >> do know here are the Caldwells of First St. Paul German Evangelical Church >> Cemetery, Penn Ave Mt Oliver Pa 15210 >> Helen >> CALDWELL, NORMAN M 5/15/1915-11/27/1918 Circle Rim A H64 >> CALDWELL, ????? 1906-10/2/1906 SECF/G R13 H11 GUESSWORK >> CALDWELL, ALONZO 1853-1923 SECF/G R13 H12 >> CALDWELL, BENJAMIN C 1887-1956 SEC F/G R21 H4 >> CALDWELL, F M 1868-1934 Circle Rim A H62 MD >> CALDWELL, GEO W 3/14/1891-3/29/1907 SECF/G R13 H10 16 YEARS 15 DAYS >> GUESSWORK >> CALDWELL, MARGARET 1871-1957 Circle Rim A H63 >> CALDWELL, MARGARET C 1889-1978 SEC F/G R21 H4 >> CALDWELL, MARY B 1867-1936 SECF/G R13 H12 >> CALDWELL? UNREADABLE Circle Rim A H65 ON CALDWELL LOT >> >> >> >> >> Margaret NEU CALDWELL lived in Brentwood-- her husband was buried in what >>> appears to be her family's favorite cemetery- the old St Paul's >>> Lutheran - >>> Cemetery. Two of her sons in law are buried there as well- Her son is >>> buried in Yuba, CA. One son in law is buried at Mt Lebanon. >>> She and Uncle Frank married abt 1894 in Allegheny Co. Interesting to >>> note >>> his family was in the Birmingham area at the same time the other NEU >>> family is there-- feel there is a connection- her parents are listed as >>> being born in Germany in a census, but she is listed as being born in PA- >>> >>> as far as I can tell, she should have a great granddaughter, married and >>> living in Bethel Park (per a 2009 obit) >>> >>> >>> there is a Margaret Caldwell buried at St Paul's who died after 1947 >>> (which is when I have last known location for her)- >>> >>> annie >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Annie, >>>> At first glance I don't see her in my tree. You can look on my website: >>>> http://osman.tribalpages.com and see if you can come up with something. >>>> Also, visit the website of Mark Dickson >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mdickson101/ . The surname NEU >>>> is >>>> under his maternal lines. >>>> Please to email me privately. Together we may be able to find the >>>> connection. I'm going to try and find her on census records and see if I >>>> can >>>> find out anything that way. >>>> If anyone else is interested, please feel free to jump in. >>>> ~Bev >>>> bevart(at)frontiernet(dot)net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "annie" <1anniesquest4me@bellsouth.net> >>>> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:51 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ALL] NEU obituary; interesting story about coming to >>>> America >>>> >>>> >>>>> very interesting-- especially since I have an unknown NEU from >>>>> Pittsburgh >>>>> in my family-- >>>>> >>>>> Could Margaret NEU b. abt 1871 in PA and died after 1947 be related to >>>>> this group? Her parents are listed as being born in Germany in 1930 >>>>> census >>>>> for her >>>>> >>>>> She married Dr. Francis McClain CALDWELL abt 1894 in Allegheny Co, PA. >>>>> They resided on Brentwood Ave in Allegheny Co. PA. >>>>> >>>>> She resided at the Concordia Old Folks Home in Cabot, PA in 1947 >>>>> >>>>> Her husband was my great grandma's brother- and he is buried in the St >>>>> Paul's Cemetery as well- >>>>> >>>>> hoping for documented connection here! >>>>> >>>>> annie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I found an obituary for my 2nd great-granduncle, George Jacob NEU, who >>>>>> arrived from Germany. He's the son of Valentine NEU who died in 1871 >>>>>> and >>>>>> is buried in Pittsburgh. I just thought this obit was very >>>>>> interesting >>>>>> about the coming to America. I hope you'll enjoy this little piece of >>>>>> history in the fist paragraph. (His sister, Katharine Margaretha NEU >>>>>> is >>>>>> my ancestor. She married Mattew AUGENSTEIN. They lived and died in >>>>>> Pittsburgh.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Washington County Register, Washington, Kansas, April, 1925: >>>>>> George Jacob Neu was born in Prussia, Germany, about ten miles from >>>>>> the >>>>>> Rhine River, December 24, 1839 [should be 1838]. In 1846, his parents, >>>>>> four brothers, and two sisters left Germany and journeyed overland in >>>>>> a >>>>>> covered wagon through Belgium and France to Havre, where they waited >>>>>> two >>>>>> weeks for a three-master to take them to America. Forty-four days were >>>>>> spent on the water. Arriving in New York the family had a short ride >>>>>> on >>>>>> one of the crude trains of the forties, and then proceeded by boat to >>>>>> Chambersburg, PA., and from there the journey was by stage, eight days >>>>>> to >>>>>> Pittsburg. >>>>>> There young Jacob learned the shoemaker`s trade. He enlisted in the >>>>>> Army >>>>>> in 1864 and served until July, 1865, when he was mustered out. He was >>>>>> the >>>>>> last of the G.A.R. veterans to survive in Logan Township, and at the >>>>>> time >>>>>> of his death, Tuesday morning, April 14, at about 6:30, he was 86 >>>>>> years, >>>>>> 3 months, and 20 days old. It was on this day just forty-six years ago >>>>>> that he moved to the home where he raised his family and spent his >>>>>> declining years. In 1859, on Christmas Eve, his twenty-first birthday, >>>>>> Grandfather Neu was united in marriage to Miss Anna Katherine Bishoff >>>>>> [sic] at Pittsburg, Pa. To them were born twelve children, ten of whom >>>>>> survive, together with their mother, to mourn the loss of a loving and >>>>>> devoted father. Two daughters, Anna and Katherine, passed away in >>>>>> infancy. With his wife and surviving children, he left Pittsburg at >>>>>> the >>>>>> time following the panic of `73 with what he managed to save out of >>>>>> that >>>>>> catastrophe, started to Kansas, arriving in Washington County! >>>>> i! >>>>>> n 1879, where he labored with his devoted wife to raise their ten >>>>>> children. >>>>>> He is survived by his widow, Katherine Bishoff Neu, now in her >>>>>> eighty-second year, who lovingly ministered to him until the very >>>>>> last, >>>>>> and by four daughters, Miss Elizabeth Neu who lives at the old home; >>>>>> Mrs. >>>>>> Margaret Smith of Roca, Nebr.; Mrs. Emma Rossman of Pittsburg, Pa.; >>>>>> Mrs. >>>>>> Bertha Munch of Kansas City, K.; also six sons, Charles, William, and >>>>>> Jacob, Jr. (sic), the youngest child, all of Washington County; >>>>>> Benjamin >>>>>> and Harry of Butler, Okla.; and George of Overton, Nebraska. There >>>>>> were >>>>>> thirty grandchildren and twenty-three great-grandchildren. Until 3 >>>>>> years >>>>>> ago he had enjoyed good health, but has suffered much at times since. >>>>>> October of last year he was stricken with what proved to be his last >>>>>> illness, but until two weeks ago, he was up and about the house every >>>>>> day. He suffered much, but all pain left him about fifteen minutes >>>>>> before >>>>>> his passing away and he went as he had prayed many times, with a smile >>>>>> on >>>>>> his face. He prayed many times that the Lord would take him;! >>>>> h! >>>>>> e was ready to go. June of last year he wrote down many of the facts >>>>>> here >>>>>> given, and closed with these words, referring to his training at >>>>>> Pittsburg: "I was trained in the Lutheran faith, and I will stick to >>>>>> it >>>>>> till the last." So passed one of the well known and loved pioneers of >>>>>> this country. Among his last words were "Lift me higher." The funeral >>>>>> service will be held at the home at 2 P.M. Friday April 17th, followed >>>>>> by >>>>>> services at St. Paul`s Ev. Lutheran Church at 3 P.M. >>>>>> Interment to be in St. Paul`s Cemetery. Rev. C. Wilbur Nelson, pastor >>>>>> in >>>>>> charge of services. >>>>>> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message