HI Annie, Nancy Long made a list from the cemetery records. My list is from the headstones. Fitzpatrick and Kahn probably come from her list as not everyone in the cemetery had a stone. There is an Elizabeth Treusch 1862-1942 buried with the Gottleib Neu group Perhaps a daughter. Both the Caldwells and the Neu are near each other in the Circle but not next to each other. Try checking both my list and Nancy's on Norm's website. Hers I would tend to think would be more accurate. You can see the position of the graves by comparing placement. Margaret, FM and Norman are 62, 63, 64 on the Circle's rim. Gottlieb and famil are 96,97,98,99,100. The other Caldwell are in section F/G which is the next section over. To check I would have to physical go into the cemetery. Right now in the middle of winter would be tough. I could take pictures again not right now Wait until it is better weather and contact me a gain. I live in Brentwood. I drive Brentwood Ave about once a week. If you have a house number I could get a picture for you. Again in the Spring. HELEN Yes, thanks so much. Which NEU line are the CALDWELLS close to in the > cemetery? > > According to Norm's cemetery listing- > Herbert Patton FITZPATRICK and Albert KAHN are both in the cemetery as > well. > > And yes, they all lived in Brentwood. > > annie > > On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:00 PM, roger@fyi.net wrote: > >>> Annie, >> I sent you the Caldwells, They appear to be in the same section of the >> Neus >> There were no Fitzpatricks or Kahns in First St. Pauls >> Did they live in Brentwood also? >> HElen >> >> >> thanks, Helen- >>> >>> can you look up CALDWELL, FITZPATRICK, and KAHN? I know Dr Francis M = >>> CALDWELL is there (according to his 1934 obit)-- suspect his wife = >>> Margaret NEU is there as well- who all is buried with/near them? any = >>> chance of any brave volunteer to go get photos of tombstones? >>> >>> annie >>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:51 PM, annie wrote: >>> >>>> very interesting-- especially since I have an unknown NEU from >>>> Pittsburgh in my family-- >>>> >>>> Could Margaret NEU b. abt 1871 in PA and died after 1947 be related to >>>> this group? Her parents are listed as being born in Germany in 1930 >>>> census for her >>>> >>>> She married Dr. Francis McClain CALDWELL abt 1894 in Allegheny Co, PA. >>>> They resided on Brentwood Ave in Allegheny Co. PA. >>>> >>>> She resided at the Concordia Old Folks Home in Cabot, PA in 1947 >>>> >>>> Her husband was my great grandma's brother- and he is buried in the St >>>> Paul's Cemetery as well- >>>> >>>> hoping for documented connection here! >>>> >>>> annie >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >>>> >>>>> I found an obituary for my 2nd great-granduncle, George Jacob NEU, >>>>> who >>>>> arrived from Germany. He's the son of Valentine NEU who died in 1871 >>>>> and is buried in Pittsburgh. I just thought this obit was very >>>>> interesting about the coming to America. I hope you'll enjoy this >>>>> little piece of history in the fist paragraph. (His sister, Katharine >>>>> Margaretha NEU is my ancestor. She married Mattew AUGENSTEIN. They >>>>> lived and died in Pittsburgh.) >>>>> >>>>> Washington County Register, Washington, Kansas, April, 1925: >>>>> George Jacob Neu was born in Prussia, Germany, about ten miles from >>>>> the >>>>> Rhine River, December 24, 1839 [should be 1838]. In 1846, his >>>>> parents, >>>>> four brothers, and two sisters left Germany and journeyed overland in >>>>> a >>>>> covered wagon through Belgium and France to Havre, where they waited >>>>> two weeks for a three-master to take them to America. Forty-four days >>>>> were spent on the water. Arriving in New York the family had a short >>>>> ride on one of the crude trains of the forties, and then proceeded by >>>>> boat to Chambersburg, PA., and from there the journey was by stage, >>>>> eight days to Pittsburg. >>>>> There young Jacob learned the shoemaker`s trade. He enlisted in the >>>>> Army in 1864 and served until July, 1865, when he was mustered out. >>>>> He >>>>> was the last of the G.A.R. veterans to survive in Logan Township, and >>>>> at the time of his death, Tuesday morning, April 14, at about 6:30, >>>>> he >>>>> was 86 years, 3 months, and 20 days old. It was on this day just >>>>> forty-six years ago that he moved to the home where he raised his >>>>> family and spent his declining years. In 1859, on Christmas Eve, his >>>>> twenty-first birthday, Grandfather Neu was united in marriage to Miss >>>>> Anna Katherine Bishoff [sic] at Pittsburg, Pa. To them were born >>>>> twelve >>>>> children, ten of whom survive, together with their mother, to mourn >>>>> the >>>>> loss of a loving and devoted father. Two daughters, Anna and >>>>> Katherine, >>>>> passed away in infancy. With his wife and surviving children, he left >>>>> Pittsburg at the time following the panic of `73 with what he managed >>>>> to save out of that catastrophe, started to Kansas, arriving in >>>>> Washington Count! >>> y! >>>> i! >>>>> n 1879, where he labored with his devoted wife to raise their ten >>>>> children. >>>>> He is survived by his widow, Katherine Bishoff Neu, now in her >>>>> eighty-second year, who lovingly ministered to him until the very >>>>> last, >>>>> and by four daughters, Miss Elizabeth Neu who lives at the old home; >>>>> Mrs. Margaret Smith of Roca, Nebr.; Mrs. Emma Rossman of Pittsburg, >>>>> Pa.; Mrs. Bertha Munch of Kansas City, K.; also six sons, Charles, >>>>> William, and Jacob, Jr. (sic), the youngest child, all of Washington >>>>> County; Benjamin and Harry of Butler, Okla.; and George of Overton, >>>>> Nebraska. There were thirty grandchildren and twenty-three >>>>> great-grandchildren. Until 3 years ago he had enjoyed good health, >>>>> but >>>>> has suffered much at times since. October of last year he was >>>>> stricken >>>>> with what proved to be his last illness, but until two weeks ago, he >>>>> was up and about the house every day. He suffered much, but all pain >>>>> left him about fifteen minutes before his passing away and he went as >>>>> he had prayed many times, with a smile on his face. He prayed many >>>>> times that the Lord would take him! >>> ;! >>>> h! >>>>> e was ready to go. June of last year he wrote down many of the facts >>>>> here given, and closed with these words, referring to his training at >>>>> Pittsburg: "I was trained in the Lutheran faith, and I will stick to >>>>> it >>>>> till the last." So passed one of the well known and loved pioneers of >>>>> this country. Among his last words were "Lift me higher." The funeral >>>>> service will be held at the home at 2 P.M. Friday April 17th, >>>>> followed >>>>> by services at St. Paul`s Ev. Lutheran Church at 3 P.M. >>>>> Interment to be in St. Paul`s Cemetery. Rev. C. Wilbur Nelson, pastor >>>>> in charge of services. >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oh my goodness. Merry Christmas to me!!! You have just solved a huge mystery for me-- and all with the name Elizabeth Treusch!!!!!!! Let me explain--- Elizabeth Troech is listed as a cousin in the 1935 memorial book for the death of Austin McClain Brendel--- and her name was listed under the name of Dr Frank Caldwell and above the names of Frank's married children. I had wondered who she was and why she was listed as cousin-- so-- Beverly ( and all who are following this little story) there is no doubt in my mind now that Maria Margaretha NEU (b. Feb 1871) is indeed the wife of Francis McClain Caldwell and is the one who is buried in the plot as Margaret CALDWELL (1871-1957) - she was called Maggie by my family-- and her sister should be the Elizabeth TREUSCH listed in the NEU family plot-- ta da!! I knew Elizabeth was a cousin- but I didn't know if it was a McClain or a Caldwell connection--- now I see it clearly!! Elizabeth went to the funeral of Frank's first cousin, Austin--- They so all knew each other!!!! BTW- Austin is buried at Southside with his mother, his grandmother, and my grandparents and my great grandparents Super present for me-- and, absolutely, I have a house number for you in the spring! THANKS annie On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, roger@fyi.net wrote: > HI Annie, > Nancy Long made a list from the cemetery records. > My list is from the headstones. > Fitzpatrick and Kahn probably come from her list as not everyone in the > cemetery had a stone. > There is an Elizabeth Treusch 1862-1942 buried with the Gottleib Neu group > Perhaps a daughter. Both the Caldwells and the Neu are near each other in > the Circle but not next to each other. > Try checking both my list and Nancy's on Norm's website. Hers I would > tend to think would be more accurate. > You can see the position of the graves by comparing placement. Margaret, > FM and Norman are 62, 63, 64 on the Circle's rim. Gottlieb and famil are > 96,97,98,99,100. The other Caldwell are in section F/G which is the next > section over. > To check I would have to physical go into the cemetery. Right now in the > middle of winter would be tough. I could take pictures again not right now > Wait until it is better weather and contact me a gain. > I live in Brentwood. I drive Brentwood Ave about once a week. If you have > a house number I could get a picture for you. Again in the Spring. > HELEN > > Yes, thanks so much. Which NEU line are the CALDWELLS close to in the >> cemetery? >> >> According to Norm's cemetery listing- >> Herbert Patton FITZPATRICK and Albert KAHN are both in the cemetery as >> well. >> >> And yes, they all lived in Brentwood. >> >> annie >> >> On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:00 PM, roger@fyi.net wrote: >> >>>> Annie, >>> I sent you the Caldwells, They appear to be in the same section of the >>> Neus >>> There were no Fitzpatricks or Kahns in First St. Pauls >>> Did they live in Brentwood also? >>> HElen >>> >>> >>> thanks, Helen- >>>> >>>> can you look up CALDWELL, FITZPATRICK, and KAHN? I know Dr Francis M = >>>> CALDWELL is there (according to his 1934 obit)-- suspect his wife = >>>> Margaret NEU is there as well- who all is buried with/near them? any = >>>> chance of any brave volunteer to go get photos of tombstones? >>>> >>>> annie >>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:51 PM, annie wrote: >>>> >>>>> very interesting-- especially since I have an unknown NEU from >>>>> Pittsburgh in my family-- >>>>> >>>>> Could Margaret NEU b. abt 1871 in PA and died after 1947 be related to >>>>> this group? Her parents are listed as being born in Germany in 1930 >>>>> census for her >>>>> >>>>> She married Dr. Francis McClain CALDWELL abt 1894 in Allegheny Co, PA. >>>>> They resided on Brentwood Ave in Allegheny Co. PA. >>>>> >>>>> She resided at the Concordia Old Folks Home in Cabot, PA in 1947 >>>>> >>>>> Her husband was my great grandma's brother- and he is buried in the St >>>>> Paul's Cemetery as well- >>>>> >>>>> hoping for documented connection here! >>>>> >>>>> annie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Beverly Morris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I found an obituary for my 2nd great-granduncle, George Jacob NEU, >>>>>> who >>>>>> arrived from Germany. He's the son of Valentine NEU who died in 1871 >>>>>> and is buried in Pittsburgh. I just thought this obit was very >>>>>> interesting about the coming to America. I hope you'll enjoy this >>>>>> little piece of history in the fist paragraph. (His sister, Katharine >>>>>> Margaretha NEU is my ancestor. She married Mattew AUGENSTEIN. They >>>>>> lived and died in Pittsburgh.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Washington County Register, Washington, Kansas, April, 1925: >>>>>> George Jacob Neu was born in Prussia, Germany, about ten miles from >>>>>> the >>>>>> Rhine River, December 24, 1839 [should be 1838]. In 1846, his >>>>>> parents, >>>>>> four brothers, and two sisters left Germany and journeyed overland in >>>>>> a >>>>>> covered wagon through Belgium and France to Havre, where they waited >>>>>> two weeks for a three-master to take them to America. Forty-four days >>>>>> were spent on the water. Arriving in New York the family had a short >>>>>> ride on one of the crude trains of the forties, and then proceeded by >>>>>> boat to Chambersburg, PA., and from there the journey was by stage, >>>>>> eight days to Pittsburg. >>>>>> There young Jacob learned the shoemaker`s trade. He enlisted in the >>>>>> Army in 1864 and served until July, 1865, when he was mustered out. >>>>>> He >>>>>> was the last of the G.A.R. veterans to survive in Logan Township, and >>>>>> at the time of his death, Tuesday morning, April 14, at about 6:30, >>>>>> he >>>>>> was 86 years, 3 months, and 20 days old. It was on this day just >>>>>> forty-six years ago that he moved to the home where he raised his >>>>>> family and spent his declining years. In 1859, on Christmas Eve, his >>>>>> twenty-first birthday, Grandfather Neu was united in marriage to Miss >>>>>> Anna Katherine Bishoff [sic] at Pittsburg, Pa. To them were born >>>>>> twelve >>>>>> children, ten of whom survive, together with their mother, to mourn >>>>>> the >>>>>> loss of a loving and devoted father. Two daughters, Anna and >>>>>> Katherine, >>>>>> passed away in infancy. With his wife and surviving children, he left >>>>>> Pittsburg at the time following the panic of `73 with what he managed >>>>>> to save out of that catastrophe, started to Kansas, arriving in >>>>>> Washington Count! >>>> y! >>>>> i! >>>>>> n 1879, where he labored with his devoted wife to raise their ten >>>>>> children. >>>>>> He is survived by his widow, Katherine Bishoff Neu, now in her >>>>>> eighty-second year, who lovingly ministered to him until the very >>>>>> last, >>>>>> and by four daughters, Miss Elizabeth Neu who lives at the old home; >>>>>> Mrs. Margaret Smith of Roca, Nebr.; Mrs. Emma Rossman of Pittsburg, >>>>>> Pa.; Mrs. Bertha Munch of Kansas City, K.; also six sons, Charles, >>>>>> William, and Jacob, Jr. (sic), the youngest child, all of Washington >>>>>> County; Benjamin and Harry of Butler, Okla.; and George of Overton, >>>>>> Nebraska. There were thirty grandchildren and twenty-three >>>>>> great-grandchildren. Until 3 years ago he had enjoyed good health, >>>>>> but >>>>>> has suffered much at times since. October of last year he was >>>>>> stricken >>>>>> with what proved to be his last illness, but until two weeks ago, he >>>>>> was up and about the house every day. He suffered much, but all pain >>>>>> left him about fifteen minutes before his passing away and he went as >>>>>> he had prayed many times, with a smile on his face. He prayed many >>>>>> times that the Lord would take him! >>>> ;! >>>>> h! >>>>>> e was ready to go. June of last year he wrote down many of the facts >>>>>> here given, and closed with these words, referring to his training at >>>>>> Pittsburg: "I was trained in the Lutheran faith, and I will stick to >>>>>> it >>>>>> till the last." So passed one of the well known and loved pioneers of >>>>>> this country. Among his last words were "Lift me higher." The funeral >>>>>> service will be held at the home at 2 P.M. Friday April 17th, >>>>>> followed >>>>>> by services at St. Paul`s Ev. Lutheran Church at 3 P.M. >>>>>> Interment to be in St. Paul`s Cemetery. Rev. C. Wilbur Nelson, pastor >>>>>> in charge of services. >>>>>> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message