>From: "Doug Kleitz" <dkleitz@comcast.net> <Subject: [ALL] Questions about deeds <I have two Deeds and very excited, one from 1836 and one from 1865, its easy to read but the markers are insane, 16 feet and one birch to the white fence ect <I wish I could figure it where the property was actually located, the boundry lines are to spots that don't even exist anymore <Anyway to figure it out???? Any hints, its amazing to find my 4 great grandfather's property (1836), and his oldest son's property (1865), in the old Indiana Township, which later became Ohara Township Hi Doug, One way might be by tracing the property deeds from seller to buyer to seller to buyer until the deeds switch over to today¹s terminology [they do, don¹t they?] Conversely, go backward to the warrantee, and see what you can discern from a warrantee map. These are found in various places online, but the best source I like is the PA Archives¹ Land records online: <http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=3184&&SortOrd er=100&level=4&parentCommID=3162&menuLevel=Level_4&mode=2> <http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=3184& &SortOrder=100&level=4&parentCommID=3162&menuLevel=Level_4&a mp;mode=2> [make sure there are no spaces in the URL]. There are now SEVENTEEN searchable databases for PA Land Records! Also check for the land of the neighbors: ³adjoining the land of ? on the north² for instance. An Indiana Township or O¹Hara Twp history might give you insights as to where the land was. Check page 10 of <http://www.indianatownship.com/pdf/spring2011.pdf> and <http://www.yourfoxchapel.com/event/history-ohara-township-recently-publishe d-book-talk-lauri-ann-west-memorial-library> In either of these, the neighbors might be featured, if your family isn¹t. Good hunting, Cari Thomas I also just found this online: <http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Metes+and+Bounds> which gives this tidbit: metes and bounds (meets and bounds) n. a surveyor's description of a parcel of real property, using carefully measured distances, angles, and directions, which results in what is called a "legal description" of the land, as distinguished from merely a street address or parcel number. Such a metes and bounds description is required to be recorded in official county record on a subdivision map and in the deeds when the boundaries of a parcel or lot are first drawn. so you might try following up on this ³subdivision map² for Allegheny County. Let us know what you find???