Mary Ann, I think the early JP's didn't record anything. Mine were in 1867 and I doubt there is a record anywhere. I also think my gr. grandmother was Catholic and he was not so that's why they went from Allegheny to Lawrence Co. to get married. Kind of like people from the Pittsburgh area going to Wheeling or Winchester later. On 1/2/2014 8:07 PM, Mary Ann Dess wrote: > Beverly, I was lucky also in getting my g grandfather's Civil War records > after years of search. Spelling was wrong. And to anyone...how do you find > a marriage record by a JP. I have tried various court houses in my vicinity > with no luck. Wouldn't they be recorded the same way as with a minister or > priest? And they definitely did not marry in the Catholic Church knowing my > grandfather. > > -----Original Message----- > From: suzanne m. johnston > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:54 PM > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > > For those of you looking for marriage records for Allegheny County on > familysearch: The records from about 1904 through the mid-1903s were not > microfilmed by the LDS and are therefore NOT digitized on familysearch. > FamilySearch doesn't explain that these records are not there. If you are > looking for a marriage during those years, you'll have to contact the > marriage license bureau in Pittsburgh for a search and a copy. Occasionally > you'll see a record from 1905 or 1906, but if you examine carefully, you'll > see that it's from another county and the indexing put it in the wrong > county. > > Suzie > >> From: jr@jjamieson.com >> To: paallegh@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:38:06 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records >> >> Having done research in Allegheny County by visiting the County, the >> records >> are there, it is just a matter of locating them. It is unfortunate that >> some of the records there are not in Family Search or they are misspelled. >> >> The Diocese has records based upon what the Parish reported. I know while >> searching for a death record with the Diocese, the records form the Parish >> did not include the Cemetery name and the Cemetery on the Death Records >> from >> PA, that block was improperly completed. This was for a Catholic but the >> Cemetery indicated was a Jewish one. Parents were Catholic and the child >> is >> not with the parents or grandparents. Just one of the many brick walls we >> each have. >> >> JR Jamieson >> jr@jjamieson.com >> >> 412 343 9264 >> Eagle Scout >> Home of the Steeler Nation >> "In God We Trust" >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norm Meinert" <normmeinert@verizon.net> >> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 1:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records >> >> >>> Just adding my two cents on this subject . . . >>> >>> I've noticed almost none of my family marriages are listed at >>> FamilySearch either, and the bulk of them were united in a Catholic >>> church in Sharpsburg, PA, however, some marriages that were performed >>> outside the church by J.P's or similar, are listed. So my assumption is >>> that the church (or Diocese) did NOT submit the marital data to the >>> county. The data is available via the Diocese, for a fee. This may, or >>> may not, be specific to certain Catholic parishes . . . but in my case >>> it appears to be so. >>> >>> Norm >>> >>> >>> >>> Helen Owens wrote: >>>> Clare and everyone. >>>> It is possible that the marriage record of a couple will not appear on >>>> the >>>> family search or other lists. My parents do not. I know when, where >>>> and >>>> have pictures of their wedding in 1930. Also knew and talked about it >>>> with >>>> various relatives who were at the wedding and reception. Have even >>>> seen >>>> the >>>> wedding certificate. Have not been able to find them in the various >>>> lists. >>>> Why I am not certain. It in a way makes you smile. Their parents and >>>> siblings are on the lists. Even their aunts and uncles and one set of >>>> great grandparents . Mistakes are made >>>> Helen in Pgh >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Clare" <BurghRoots@comcast.net> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:49 PM >>>> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records >>>> >>>>> If the marriage isn't at the court house, then they most likely didn't >>>>> marry there. Have you checked West Virginia? Many couples went to >>>>> Wheeling to marry. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx They >>>>> could have gone to another county. >>>>> >>>>> The person who found information on your family said he got it from >>>>> the >>>>> Newspapers on Ancestry, not from your tree. >>>>> >>>>> Clare >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>>> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi group: I was perusing the subject looking for my Rouzer line when I noted that in the Will and probate file index the first column after the name is the date of death and location, even for those without a will. Sort of a death index. Worth checking out if you have anyone that lived there. Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Virginia, A light went off when I read this. I have thought all along that my grandparents got married by a JP. She was Catholic and he was not. I never thought of a pension record and hope I can find it. -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Patricelli Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 5:49 PM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALL] Marriage record My gr. grandparents were married by a JP in Lawrence Co., Pa. but I was lucky that the information was included in the pension file I got for my gr. grandfather. Told when, where, and by whom. Poor woman never got the pension because she didn't know what happened to her copy. Virginia ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good luck Mary Ann. I hope you find it. Maybe you will be lucky and find the certificate too. Virginia On 1/2/2014 6:26 PM, Mary Ann Dess wrote: > Virginia, A light went off when I read this. I have thought all along that > my grandparents got married by a JP. She was Catholic and he was not. I > never thought of a pension record and hope I can find it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Virginia Patricelli > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 5:49 PM > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALL] Marriage record > > My gr. grandparents were married by a JP in Lawrence Co., Pa. but I was > lucky that the information was included in the pension file I got for my > gr. grandfather. Told when, where, and by whom. Poor woman never got > the pension because she didn't know what happened to her copy. > > Virginia > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FYI: I have my 2nd great-grandfather's Civil War pension records, even though he wasn't indexed. So, if you don't find him in an index, try anyway. ~Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ann Dess" <madess@comcast.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage record > > Virginia, A light went off when I read this. I have thought all along > that > my grandparents got married by a JP. She was Catholic and he was not. I > never thought of a pension record and hope I can find it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Virginia Patricelli > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 5:49 PM > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALL] Marriage record > > My gr. grandparents were married by a JP in Lawrence Co., Pa. but I was > lucky that the information was included in the pension file I got for my > gr. grandfather. Told when, where, and by whom. Poor woman never got > the pension because she didn't know what happened to her copy. > > Virginia > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My gr. grandparents were married by a JP in Lawrence Co., Pa. but I was lucky that the information was included in the pension file I got for my gr. grandfather. Told when, where, and by whom. Poor woman never got the pension because she didn't know what happened to her copy. Virginia

INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Apr 12, 1930    saturday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TaBRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lmgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2405%2C5473920 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 48 MECHEN, Dr. John J.      53 yo  Masontown, PA              1930-4-10 STAMAN, Joseph                  Miami, FL                  1930-4-10 VETTER, Bartholomew      89 YO  Jancey St.                 1930-4-9 CONDON, James M.                East End                   1930-4-9 SPELLMAN, Michael J.     62 yo  St. Francis Hospital       1930-4-11            Death Notices  Page 63 ATEN, Margaret A.               Robinson Twp. Wash County  1930-4-9 BRIDGEWATER, Elisha      71 yo                             1930-4-10 BRINEY, Evelyn                  Meade St.                  1930-4-10 BRENKOFF, Dorothy                                          1930-4-11 CAMPBELL, Edward C.      67 yo  California Ave.            1930-4-11 CLINTON, Jean Frances     7 yo                             1930-4-11 COOKE, Arthur Ingram            Waynesburg, PA             1930-4-10 DAVIDSON, Edward                                           1930-4-11 FISHER, James T.                New Derry, PA              1930-4-8 FITZGERALD, Mary J.             North Negley Ave.          1930-4-10 FRESHWATER, John R.      43 yo  Carnegie, PA               1930-4-11 GILLESPIE, Joseph        38 yo  Canton, OH                No Death Date HULICK, Thomas M.               Dunloe Ave.                1930-4-9 HARRIS, George                                             1930-4-11 HOLZAPFAL, Elmer                                           1930-4-11 JONES, Robert                                              1930-4-11 JONES, Alice E. nee SNYDER  50 yo  Brentwood               1930-4-10 KORTA, Edward Sr.                                          1930-4-10 LOVE, Mary H. nee BECH   92 yo                             1930-4-11 MADDEN, Sidney W.        28 yo  Newark, NJ                 1930-4-9 METCALFE, Samuel W.             Oakland                    1930-4-10 MALONE, Edward                                             1930-4-11 MORAN, James J.                 Hamilton Ave.              1930-4-10 MARRINER, Earl L.        30 yo  Franklin Twp.              1930-4-11 McCUSKER, James          62 yo                             1930-4-10 MURPHY, Jeanne            1 yo  Carnegie Ave.              1930-4-11 RICHARDS, Frank J.       44 yo  Valley Hospital            1930-4-10 SCHINDLER, Anna          48 yo  Swissvale                  1930-4-11 SARRATORE, Peter         45 yo  Bedford Ave.               1930-4-10 SMITH, Lloyd C.                 Berea, OH                  1930-4-10 SMITH, Virginia E.              Northside                  1930-4-10 SELL, Henry M.           82 yo  Carrick                    1930-4-10 SALMON, Dorothy H.              Wilkinsburg                1930-4-11 SCHERRER, Christina nee KAPPELER  Northside                1930-4-11 SIPLE, Ernestine nee LEMKE  85 yo  McCandless Twp.         1930-4-9 STAMAN, Joseph                  Miami, FL                  1930-4-10 TAYLOR, George A.                                          1930-4-11 TASSI, Edna nee MATHEWS  47 yo  Mt. Washington             1930-4-10 VETTER, Bartholomew      89 yo                             1930-4-9 VOLTZ, Peter             55 yo                             1930-4-10 WOLSTONCRAFT, George E.  55 yo  Collier Twp.               1930-4-10 WILLIAMS, Margaret nee CAMPBELL  Oakland                   1930-4-10 Bob

Thanks. Not a newbie. Chemo. -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:17 AM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALL] In re: discussion of PA county marriage index Seriously? Newbies take note: FHL equals Family History Library equals www.FamilySearch.org equals LDS equals Church of Jesus Chirst of Latter Day Saints equals Mormons and their free website which we non-Mormon believing, genealogy-loving folks use with much pleasure. And while you're at it, take an hour and study that most powerful website. There is so MUCH genealogical info there it will make your eyes bleed. On the main search page scroll down and limit your search to a specific state, or international county. They have 15 sets of wonderful records for the state of PA !! For me, I am presently starry-eyed over the digitized records of an obscure village in the Palermo area of Sicily called Valledolmo. I've viewed the actual films at local LDS churches, some of which are privileged to have Family History Centers in them. Not all the LDS records have been microfilmed. A search through their online library catalog may turn up records that you can only view in their main library in Salt Lake City, UT, or at the FHCs. And remember...Google, Bing, and other popular search engines can be your best friend. Bella On 01/02/14, Karns,Nancy C.<NKARNS@travelers.com> wrote: In regards to below explanation, who is "FHL"? Thanks. Nancy Caruthers Karns -----Original Message----- From: [1]paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of [3]lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:31 AM To: [4]paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALL] In re: discussion of PA county marriage index Listers, the following message which I forward here, was posted by Suzanne M. Johnson, a top-shelf, well-respected Allegheny County researcher, and member of Western PA Genealogical Society. I have saved it in my inbox purposely for background in re: the current discussion. Good reading; we must ALL remember that just because SOME records are online, we must not assume that ALL records are online. Sometimes we must go back to the basics and send to the original holder of the records. Bella ----------Original Message---------- From: "suzanne m. johnston" Date: Apr 22, 2013 4:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index To: "[5]paallegh@rootsweb.com" <[6]paallegh@rootsweb.com> There isn't really a problem with the PA County Marriage Index as far as 1883 records go. Pennsylvania did not require marriage licenses until October 1885. Prior to that date, some city health departments required any individual who performed a marriage to send in a marriage return to the health department. Pittsburgh began to require these in 1870; Allegheny City in about 1878 (but records are spotty and only go to 1882). The 1875-1885 Pittsburgh marriage returns are on microfilm, although there are some months with no records. The 1870-1875 records are in a 3 volume set of abstracts, but the original microfilmed records are still with the county. The prothonotary was never in charge of marriage records; they were part of the Register of Wills. Today both offices are under the Department of Court Records. Wills now Wills/Orphans Court Division; Prothonotary now Family/Civil Division. Marriages are under Wills/Orphans' Court. There is a problem with the Allegheny County portion of the index/images. FHL never microfilmed the marriage records for Allegheny County between about 1905-06 and the mid-1930s (I do not have exact dates). I know that they filmed the marriage license docket books through volume 70 and that is what you view when you find a marriage before 1906. You do not see the actual marriage license application, although you get all the information (if it was copied correctly). For the later marriages, after 193?, the image is of the actual license application, marriage return and cover. 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Having done research in Allegheny County by visiting the County, the records are there, it is just a matter of locating them. It is unfortunate that some of the records there are not in Family Search or they are misspelled. The Diocese has records based upon what the Parish reported. I know while searching for a death record with the Diocese, the records form the Parish did not include the Cemetery name and the Cemetery on the Death Records from PA, that block was improperly completed. This was for a Catholic but the Cemetery indicated was a Jewish one. Parents were Catholic and the child is not with the parents or grandparents. Just one of the many brick walls we each have. JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Eagle Scout Home of the Steeler Nation "In God We Trust" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Meinert" <normmeinert@verizon.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > Just adding my two cents on this subject . . . > > I've noticed almost none of my family marriages are listed at > FamilySearch either, and the bulk of them were united in a Catholic > church in Sharpsburg, PA, however, some marriages that were performed > outside the church by J.P's or similar, are listed. So my assumption is > that the church (or Diocese) did NOT submit the marital data to the > county. The data is available via the Diocese, for a fee. This may, or > may not, be specific to certain Catholic parishes . . . but in my case > it appears to be so. > > Norm > > > > Helen Owens wrote: >> Clare and everyone. >> It is possible that the marriage record of a couple will not appear on >> the >> family search or other lists. My parents do not. I know when, where and >> have pictures of their wedding in 1930. Also knew and talked about it >> with >> various relatives who were at the wedding and reception. Have even seen >> the >> wedding certificate. Have not been able to find them in the various >> lists. >> Why I am not certain. It in a way makes you smile. Their parents and >> siblings are on the lists. Even their aunts and uncles and one set of >> great grandparents . Mistakes are made >> Helen in Pgh >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Clare" <BurghRoots@comcast.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:49 PM >> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records >> >>> If the marriage isn't at the court house, then they most likely didn't >>> marry there. Have you checked West Virginia? Many couples went to >>> Wheeling to marry. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx They >>> could have gone to another county. >>> >>> The person who found information on your family said he got it from the >>> Newspapers on Ancestry, not from your tree. >>> >>> Clare >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In regards to below explanation, who is "FHL"? Thanks. Nancy Caruthers Karns -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:31 AM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALL] In re: discussion of PA county marriage index Listers, the following message which I forward here, was posted by Suzanne M. Johnson, a top-shelf, well-respected Allegheny County researcher, and member of Western PA Genealogical Society. I have saved it in my inbox purposely for background in re: the current discussion. Good reading; we must ALL remember that just because SOME records are online, we must not assume that ALL records are online. Sometimes we must go back to the basics and send to the original holder of the records. Bella ----------Original Message---------- From: "suzanne m. johnston" Date: Apr 22, 2013 4:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index To: "paallegh@rootsweb.com" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> There isn't really a problem with the PA County Marriage Index as far as 1883 records go. Pennsylvania did not require marriage licenses until October 1885. Prior to that date, some city health departments required any individual who performed a marriage to send in a marriage return to the health department. Pittsburgh began to require these in 1870; Allegheny City in about 1878 (but records are spotty and only go to 1882). The 1875-1885 Pittsburgh marriage returns are on microfilm, although there are some months with no records. The 1870-1875 records are in a 3 volume set of abstracts, but the original microfilmed records are still with the county. The prothonotary was never in charge of marriage records; they were part of the Register of Wills. Today both offices are under the Department of Court Records. Wills now Wills/Orphans Court Division; Prothonotary now Family/Civil Division. Marriages are under Wills/Orphans' Court. There is a problem with the Allegheny County portion of the index/images. FHL never microfilmed the marriage records for Allegheny County between about 1905-06 and the mid-1930s (I do not have exact dates). I know that they filmed the marriage license docket books through volume 70 and that is what you view when you find a marriage before 1906. You do not see the actual marriage license application, although you get all the information (if it was copied correctly). For the later marriages, after 193?, the image is of the actual license application, marriage return and cover. Suzie > From: [1]patsgang@hotmail.com > To: [2]paallegh@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:58 -0600 > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > Just FYI: I recently tried to find a marriage license for 1883/1884 and found that what was formerly the Prothonotary's office has no records prior to 1885. They referred me to the PA Room at Carnegie Library and if you give them a credit card number, they will do a search. They also take your phone number and if they have questions, will call you. Sure helps when you're a continent away! Pat Harris in Idaho > > CC: [3]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > From: [4]tacodmk@aol.com > > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:05:43 -0700 > > To: [5]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > > > Bev you can have as many browsers on your computer as you want I have chrome, firefox , aol, and Internet explorer plus safari on mine > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: [6]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:patsgang@hotmail.com 2. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:tacodmk@aol.com 5. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 6. http://www.pagenweb.org/ 7. mailto:PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________ This communication, including attachments, is confidential, may be subject to legal privileges, and is intended for the sole use of the addressee. Any use, duplication, disclosure or dissemination of this communication, other than by the addressee, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy this communication and all copies. TRVDiscDefault::1201

Just adding my two cents on this subject . . . I've noticed almost none of my family marriages are listed at FamilySearch either, and the bulk of them were united in a Catholic church in Sharpsburg, PA, however, some marriages that were performed outside the church by J.P's or similar, are listed. So my assumption is that the church (or Diocese) did NOT submit the marital data to the county. The data is available via the Diocese, for a fee. This may, or may not, be specific to certain Catholic parishes . . . but in my case it appears to be so. Norm Helen Owens wrote: > Clare and everyone. > It is possible that the marriage record of a couple will not appear on the > family search or other lists. My parents do not. I know when, where and > have pictures of their wedding in 1930. Also knew and talked about it with > various relatives who were at the wedding and reception. Have even seen the > wedding certificate. Have not been able to find them in the various lists. > Why I am not certain. It in a way makes you smile. Their parents and > siblings are on the lists. Even their aunts and uncles and one set of > great grandparents . Mistakes are made > Helen in Pgh > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Clare" <BurghRoots@comcast.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:49 PM > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > >> If the marriage isn't at the court house, then they most likely didn't >> marry there. Have you checked West Virginia? Many couples went to >> Wheeling to marry. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx They >> could have gone to another county. >> >> The person who found information on your family said he got it from the >> Newspapers on Ancestry, not from your tree. >> >> Clare >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I too will add my experience. I could not find my gparents . So I contacted the Catholic Church in or near the city and they had their marriage record. I am assuming they went directly to the Church. The rectory clerk was very gracious and made a copy for me. She did not ask for a fee, but I mailed a check in her name and Thanked her again. Ilona > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:47:00 -0500 > From: normmeinert@verizon.net > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > > Just adding my two cents on this subject . . . > > I've noticed almost none of my family marriages are listed at > FamilySearch either, and the bulk of them were united in a Catholic > church in Sharpsburg, PA, however, some marriages that were performed > outside the church by J.P's or similar, are listed. So my assumption is > that the church (or Diocese) did NOT submit the marital data to the > county. The data is available via the Diocese, for a fee. This may, or > may not, be specific to certain Catholic parishes . . . but in my case > it appears to be so. > > Norm > > > > Helen Owens wrote: > > Clare and everyone. > > It is possible that the marriage record of a couple will not appear on the > > family search or other lists. My parents do not. I know when, where and > > have pictures of their wedding in 1930. Also knew and talked about it with > > various relatives who were at the wedding and reception. Have even seen the > > wedding certificate. Have not been able to find them in the various lists. > > Why I am not certain. It in a way makes you smile. Their parents and > > siblings are on the lists. Even their aunts and uncles and one set of > > great grandparents . Mistakes are made > > Helen in Pgh > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Clare" <BurghRoots@comcast.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:49 PM > > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > > > >> If the marriage isn't at the court house, then they most likely didn't > >> marry there. Have you checked West Virginia? Many couples went to > >> Wheeling to marry. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx They > >> could have gone to another county. > >> > >> The person who found information on your family said he got it from the > >> Newspapers on Ancestry, not from your tree. > >> > >> Clare > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > >> http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Seriously? Newbies take note: FHL equals Family History Library equals www.FamilySearch.org equals LDS equals Church of Jesus Chirst of Latter Day Saints equals Mormons and their free website which we non-Mormon believing, genealogy-loving folks use with much pleasure. And while you're at it, take an hour and study that most powerful website. There is so MUCH genealogical info there it will make your eyes bleed. On the main search page scroll down and limit your search to a specific state, or international county. They have 15 sets of wonderful records for the state of PA !! For me, I am presently starry-eyed over the digitized records of an obscure village in the Palermo area of Sicily called Valledolmo. I've viewed the actual films at local LDS churches, some of which are privileged to have Family History Centers in them. Not all the LDS records have been microfilmed. A search through their online library catalog may turn up records that you can only view in their main library in Salt Lake City, UT, or at the FHCs. And remember...Google, Bing, and other popular search engines can be your best friend. Bella On 01/02/14, Karns,Nancy C.<NKARNS@travelers.com> wrote: In regards to below explanation, who is "FHL"? Thanks. Nancy Caruthers Karns -----Original Message----- From: [1]paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [[2]mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of [3]lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:31 AM To: [4]paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALL] In re: discussion of PA county marriage index Listers, the following message which I forward here, was posted by Suzanne M. Johnson, a top-shelf, well-respected Allegheny County researcher, and member of Western PA Genealogical Society. I have saved it in my inbox purposely for background in re: the current discussion. Good reading; we must ALL remember that just because SOME records are online, we must not assume that ALL records are online. Sometimes we must go back to the basics and send to the original holder of the records. Bella ----------Original Message---------- From: "suzanne m. johnston" Date: Apr 22, 2013 4:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index To: "[5]paallegh@rootsweb.com" <[6]paallegh@rootsweb.com> There isn't really a problem with the PA County Marriage Index as far as 1883 records go. Pennsylvania did not require marriage licenses until October 1885. Prior to that date, some city health departments required any individual who performed a marriage to send in a marriage return to the health department. Pittsburgh began to require these in 1870; Allegheny City in about 1878 (but records are spotty and only go to 1882). The 1875-1885 Pittsburgh marriage returns are on microfilm, although there are some months with no records. The 1870-1875 records are in a 3 volume set of abstracts, but the original microfilmed records are still with the county. The prothonotary was never in charge of marriage records; they were part of the Register of Wills. Today both offices are under the Department of Court Records. Wills now Wills/Orphans Court Division; Prothonotary now Family/Civil Division. Marriages are under Wills/Orphans' Court. There is a problem with the Allegheny County portion of the index/images. FHL never microfilmed the marriage records for Allegheny County between about 1905-06 and the mid-1930s (I do not have exact dates). I know that they filmed the marriage license docket books through volume 70 and that is what you view when you find a marriage before 1906. You do not see the actual marriage license application, although you get all the information (if it was copied correctly). For the later marriages, after 193?, the image is of the actual license application, marriage return and cover. Suzie > From: [1][7]patsgang@hotmail.com > To: [2][8]paallegh@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:58 -0600 > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > Just FYI: I recently tried to find a marriage license for 1883/1884 and found that what was formerly the Prothonotary's office has no records prior to 1885. They referred me to the PA Room at Carnegie Library and if you give them a credit card number, they will do a search. They also take your phone number and if they have questions, will call you. Sure helps when you're a continent away! Pat Harris in Idaho > > CC: [3][9]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > From: [4][10]tacodmk@aol.com > > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:05:43 -0700 > > To: [5][11]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > > > Bev you can have as many browsers on your computer as you want I have chrome, firefox , aol, and Internet explorer plus safari on mine > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: [6][12]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7][13]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. [14]mailto:patsgang@hotmail.com 2. [15]mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 3. [16]mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 4. [17]mailto:tacodmk@aol.com 5. [18]mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 6. [19]http://www.pagenweb.org/ 7. 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Listers, the following message which I forward here, was posted by Suzanne M. Johnson, a top-shelf, well-respected Allegheny County researcher, and member of Western PA Genealogical Society. I have saved it in my inbox purposely for background in re: the current discussion. Good reading; we must ALL remember that just because SOME records are online, we must not assume that ALL records are online. Sometimes we must go back to the basics and send to the original holder of the records. Bella ----------Original Message---------- From: "suzanne m. johnston" Date: Apr 22, 2013 4:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index To: "paallegh@rootsweb.com" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> There isn't really a problem with the PA County Marriage Index as far as 1883 records go. Pennsylvania did not require marriage licenses until October 1885. Prior to that date, some city health departments required any individual who performed a marriage to send in a marriage return to the health department. Pittsburgh began to require these in 1870; Allegheny City in about 1878 (but records are spotty and only go to 1882). The 1875-1885 Pittsburgh marriage returns are on microfilm, although there are some months with no records. The 1870-1875 records are in a 3 volume set of abstracts, but the original microfilmed records are still with the county. The prothonotary was never in charge of marriage records; they were part of the Register of Wills. Today both offices are under the Department of Court Records. Wills now Wills/Orphans Court Division; Prothonotary now Family/Civil Division. Marriages are under Wills/Orphans' Court. There is a problem with the Allegheny County portion of the index/images. FHL never microfilmed the marriage records for Allegheny County between about 1905-06 and the mid-1930s (I do not have exact dates). I know that they filmed the marriage license docket books through volume 70 and that is what you view when you find a marriage before 1906. You do not see the actual marriage license application, although you get all the information (if it was copied correctly). For the later marriages, after 193?, the image is of the actual license application, marriage return and cover. Suzie > From: [1]patsgang@hotmail.com > To: [2]paallegh@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:58 -0600 > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > Just FYI: I recently tried to find a marriage license for 1883/1884 and found that what was formerly the Prothonotary's office has no records prior to 1885. They referred me to the PA Room at Carnegie Library and if you give them a credit card number, they will do a search. They also take your phone number and if they have questions, will call you. Sure helps when you're a continent away! Pat Harris in Idaho > > CC: [3]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > From: [4]tacodmk@aol.com > > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:05:43 -0700 > > To: [5]paallegh@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Problem with PA county marriage index > > > > Bev you can have as many browsers on your computer as you want I have chrome, firefox , aol, and Internet explorer plus safari on mine > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: [6]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:patsgang@hotmail.com 2. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:tacodmk@aol.com 5. mailto:paallegh@rootsweb.com 6. http://www.pagenweb.org/ 7. mailto:PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com

Most welcome, Carol. Mary Fran On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, <mikesmom958@aol.com> wrote: > Mary Fran, thank you for your input. Much appreciated! > > Carol in California > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi group: The fact that you can't find a record doesn't mean there isn't one. I've reported two mis-indexed records to Familysearch in the last two months, and they're pretty good of double checking in their indexing projects. Sometimes you have to use some pretty imaginative wild card searches to find them. When Allegheny court house had the Pgh death records on fiche on the mezzanine they missed indexing my ggrandmother when the created the index. They only way I found her was I had pinned the date down to within 6 months and went through all the records one page at a time. Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

David, I assure you I am not mad about you trying to help me. I apologize if I made you feel this way and really feel bad as this was not my attention. Ancestry has goofed up twice on my account making it public. That is what I was concerned about. NOT that you found the information. I have NEVER made anyone feel this way on any list I belong to for the past 8 years and am thankful for anyone who tries to help me. This was a first for me. Sorry if you were offended. and feel bad you accused me of this. And I do wish you a Happy New year also. -----Original Message----- From: slc33@texas.net Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 7:18 PM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: [ALL] David and Bessie Bevan Uh Re this No, I used to belong to Ancestry and put all that information on the site. Which is suppose to be private. I was wondering how you got all the information. Just want to know and call them and ask them about it. I got all that info from the New Castle News paper on Ancestry. Anyone who belongs to Ancestry has the right to view the newspapers that are available for anyone to see. I am sorry I bothered to help someone. I have been on this list for years and years and this is the first time that I was questioned re trying to help someone. I did not go into your tree nor did I even check to see if you had a tree on it. Hence why would I ask if you belonged to Ancestry.com in the first place? Going to go back to just reading posts and minding my own business. Happy New Years everyone Hope you have a good one this year Sharon ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Virginia: Entering your tree is optional. Just go to the following and start searching. At the bottom you can select United States and it will give you a list of state databases you can search. https://familysearch.org/search Larry On 1/1/2014 8:22 PM, Virginia Patricelli wrote: > I just signed into Family Search and haven't entered anything in there > yet. Is it possible for me to look up death records without entering my > tree? Years ago I was able to pull up the records but don't see an > option for that yet. > > Thanks for your help. > > Virginia > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Thanks again. I had just entered familysearch.org and of course that didn't work. Will try again. On 1/1/2014 7:28 PM, Larry Thompson wrote: > Virginia: > Entering your tree is optional. Just go to the following and start > searching. At the bottom you can select United States and it will give > you a list of state databases you can search. > > https://familysearch.org/search > > Larry > > On 1/1/2014 8:22 PM, Virginia Patricelli wrote: >> I just signed into Family Search and haven't entered anything in there >> yet. Is it possible for me to look up death records without entering my >> tree? Years ago I was able to pull up the records but don't see an >> option for that yet. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Virginia >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

Clare and everyone. It is possible that the marriage record of a couple will not appear on the family search or other lists. My parents do not. I know when, where and have pictures of their wedding in 1930. Also knew and talked about it with various relatives who were at the wedding and reception. Have even seen the wedding certificate. Have not been able to find them in the various lists. Why I am not certain. It in a way makes you smile. Their parents and siblings are on the lists. Even their aunts and uncles and one set of great grandparents . Mistakes are made Helen in Pgh -------------------------------------------------- From: "Clare" <BurghRoots@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:49 PM To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] Marriage records > If the marriage isn't at the court house, then they most likely didn't > marry there. Have you checked West Virginia? Many couples went to > Wheeling to marry. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx They > could have gone to another county. > > The person who found information on your family said he got it from the > Newspapers on Ancestry, not from your tree. > > Clare > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >