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    1. Re: [ALL] Genealogical Software
    2. Larry Thompson
    3. If a product does exactly what you want it to do and a way you like why would you care if it was ever going to be updated? My main genealogy program is FTM 8.0. I've updated it twice and both times I decided I liked 8.0 better. But, for day to day use I much prefer to use PAF. I record all of my data in FTM, then use it for all of my reports I print out. Then I export a gedcom and import to PAF for day to day work. To think you would automatically update a program just because somebody decides to issue an upgrade seems pretty silly to me if your happy with what you're using. I have better things to do with my time than spending it trying to learn someones idea of a new and improved way of doing things when the old way works. Larry On 1/27/2014 9:52 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham wrote: > Good Morning, > No offense to PAF users, but why would anyone want to continue to use > software that will never be updated? > > PAF served it's purpose and it is time to let it retire. The online > function of the FS Tree is not -IMHO- acceptable either. > Reasons? As of right now, there is no way to create a gedcom for backup > and the whole system of servers that FS uses are subject to internal > server errors. Who knows what havoc that causes to data? > > So, in the interest of finding and using modern genealogical software, > let me just say that there are a lot of programs out there that are not > only inexpensive, but exciting to use. Granted, there is a learning > curve to everything we do webwise, but that is what keeps our minds > functioning. > > Try Legacy Family Tree 8, there is a free version and the deluxe version > is only $30.00. This is cheap compared to some of the other stuff out > there. FTM is more expensive and of course is owned by Ancestry. > Both Roots Magic and Legacy integrate with FS which is an interesting > search tool when used properly. > Here is a list of others: > https://familysearch.org/products > > One last bit of information. The past couple of years has brought a > proliferation of businesses that promote Genealogical research by > offering online data entry and storage of that data. As with any > purchase: Buyer Beware! Those businesses that offer online data entry > can and will sell your files. The ability to control who sees and uses > your research should be you, not Ancestry, My Heritage or even > FamilySearch. Take a look at your contract and make sure you understand > the ramifications of it all. > > Finally, be sure that a gedcom can be created and off-loaded. Also that > all media files can be saved off site. Servers are frail and can fail. > There is no guarantee that any of the Paid online Genealogical Services > will send you a full backup if their systems fail. > > Martha A Crosley Graham > Allegheny County Coordinator > State Coordinator: California GenWeb > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

    01/27/2014 05:40:50
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 27, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 27, 1930    friday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7tsnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3879%2C1175862 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 5 McKNIGHT, Robert James   73 yo  North Negley Ave.          1930-6-24 NIGGEL, Frank S.         42 yo  Pottstown, PA              1930-6-23 BIGGER, John McBride     56 yo  Mercy Hospital             1930-6-26 DULLARD, Robert F.              Liberty Ave.               1930-6-25 FRANZ, Adam Jr.          74 yo  N. Highland Ave.           1930-6-25            Death Notices  Page 26 BIGGER, John McBride     57 yo  Mercy Hospital             1930-6-26 BIGGER, Jean Wills              Washington County          1930-6-26 COLLINS, William L.      70 yo  New Stanton, PA            1930-6-24 CRAWFORD, Robert Grier                                     1930-6-26 CHAMBERS, J. Lester             Fifth Ave.                 1930-6-26 DELO, James N.                  New Salem, PA              1930-6-25 DIGAN, Thomas J.                Emerson St. East End       1930-6-25 DULLARD, Robert F.              Liberty Ave.               1930-6-25 DUNLEVY, John J.         67 yo  Hodgkiss St. Northside     1930-6-25 ERWIN, Jay Clyde                Ingram                     1930-6-25 FROEHLICH, William R. (Max)     Jeannette, PA              1930-6-25 FRANZ, Adam Jr.          75 yo  N. Highland Ave.           1930-6-25 IONS, Erementa nee SLATER       Glenmawr Ave. 20th Ward    1930-6-26 JELLEY, Ferdinand S.     77 yo  Mt. Washington             1930-6-25 KANEY, Jane                                                1930-6-25 KRIEGER, Leah            25 yo  Wightman St.               1930-6-26 KING, George w.          82 yo  Oakland                    1930-6-26 KREBS, Otto M.                  Homewood                   1930-6-26 McKNIGHT, Robert James   73 yo  North Negley Ave.          1930-6-24 MURRAY, Orrie N.         32 yo  Knoxville                  1930-6-24 McKENNA, John                   Knoxville                  1930-6-25 MARSHALL, Eliza Jane            Russellton Rd.             1930-6-25 NIGGEL, Frank S.                Pottstown, PA              1930-6-23 ROWLAND, Harriett I.                                       1930-6-25 SELLERS, Charles Goodwin                                   1930-6-26 SCANLON, Patrick J.             North Braddock             1930-6-25 SIEGERT, Catherine nee BROWN    Millvale                  No Death Date SPANG, Sarah nee HERR           Monterey St.  Northside    1930-6-25 Bob

    01/27/2014 05:08:24
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 26, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 26, 1930    thursday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7dsnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4439%2C1241463 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 5 YAGLE, John              80 yo  Wilkins Ave.               1930-6-24 FISHER, Lavinnia Catherine  82 yo  Northside               1930-6-24 MACHA, Karl              62 yo  McKees Rocks               1930-6-24 KERRIGAN, Ellen nee HAYS  85 yo  Los Angeles, CA           1930-6-23            Death Notices  Page 26 BULGER, Lucius M.               Avalon                     1930-6-24 BLACK, Rebecca                  Easton, PA                 1930-6-24 COLLINS, William L.      70 yo  New Stanton, PA            1930-6-24 DELO, James N.                  New Salem, PA              1930-6-25 DULLARD, Robert F.              Liberty Ave.               1930-6-25 FISHER, Lavinnia Catherine  82 yo  Northside               1930-6-24 FRANZ, Adam Jr.          75 yo  N. Highland Ave.           1930-6-25 GEIB, Adam                      Montooth St. 18th Ward     1930-6-24 JELLEY, Ferdinand S.     77 yo  Mt. Washington             1930-6-25 JONES, Bertram L.               Johnstown, PA              1930-6-25 KERRIGAN, Ellen nee HAYS        Los Angeles, CA            1930-6-23 LAGER, Ellen             23 yo  Lowell St.                 1930-6-23 LEAHY, Mary nee MAHNERT         Butler St.                 1930-6-24 McKNIGHT, Robert James   73 yo  North Negley Ave.          1930-6-24 MODISPACHER, Mary Amelia nee HOCHSCHWENDER  Penn Ave.      1930-6-24 MURRAY, Orrie N.         32 yo  Knoxville                  1930-6-24 MURPHY, Henrietta M.     93 yo  Anchorville, MI            1930-6-24 MARSHALL, Eliza Jane            Russellton Rd.             1930-6-25 NEALON, James J.         20 yo  Toledo, OH                 1930-6-22 NIGGEL, Frank S.                Avalon                     1930-6-23 ROWLAND, Harriett I.                                       1930-6-25 RHOADES, Margaret A.            McKeesport                 1930-6-25 SPIEGEL, George Edward   24 yo                             1930-6-25 SCANLON, Patrick J.             North Braddock             1930-6-25 SCHINDEHUTTE, Philomena nee VOLK  73 yo  Duquesne Heights  1930-6-23 SIEGERT, Catherine nee BROWN    Millvale                  No Death Date SPANG, Sarah nee HERR           Monterey St.  Northside    1930-6-25 STRIEPEKE, John R.              McKeesport                 1930-6-25 TAFEL, Frank K.          77 yo  Mt. Washington             1930-6-24 WEYMAN, Peter                   Morningside                1930-6-24 WUNDER, Katherine        76 yo  Fingal St. 19th Ward       1930-6-24 YAGLE, John              81 yo  Wilkins Ave.               1930-6-24 Bob

    01/27/2014 05:07:06
    1. Re: [ALL] Genealogical Software
    2. Donna
    3. I agree Larry I have Ftm 12 and wish I would of kept original but would not work on Windows 8 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > > If a product does exactly what you want it to do and a way you like why > would you care if it was ever going to be updated? My main genealogy > program is FTM 8.0. I've updated it twice and both times I decided I > liked 8.0 better. But, for day to day use I much prefer to use PAF. I > record all of my data in FTM, then use it for all of my reports I print > out. Then I export a gedcom and import to PAF for day to day work. > To think you would automatically update a program just because somebody > decides to issue an upgrade seems pretty silly to me if your happy with > what you're using. I have better things to do with my time than spending > it trying to learn someones idea of a new and improved way of doing > things when the old way works. > > Larry > >> On 1/27/2014 9:52 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham wrote: >> Good Morning, >> No offense to PAF users, but why would anyone want to continue to use >> software that will never be updated? >> >> PAF served it's purpose and it is time to let it retire. The online >> function of the FS Tree is not -IMHO- acceptable either. >> Reasons? As of right now, there is no way to create a gedcom for backup >> and the whole system of servers that FS uses are subject to internal >> server errors. Who knows what havoc that causes to data? >> >> So, in the interest of finding and using modern genealogical software, >> let me just say that there are a lot of programs out there that are not >> only inexpensive, but exciting to use. Granted, there is a learning >> curve to everything we do webwise, but that is what keeps our minds >> functioning. >> >> Try Legacy Family Tree 8, there is a free version and the deluxe version >> is only $30.00. This is cheap compared to some of the other stuff out >> there. FTM is more expensive and of course is owned by Ancestry. >> Both Roots Magic and Legacy integrate with FS which is an interesting >> search tool when used properly. >> Here is a list of others: >> https://familysearch.org/products >> >> One last bit of information. The past couple of years has brought a >> proliferation of businesses that promote Genealogical research by >> offering online data entry and storage of that data. As with any >> purchase: Buyer Beware! Those businesses that offer online data entry >> can and will sell your files. The ability to control who sees and uses >> your research should be you, not Ancestry, My Heritage or even >> FamilySearch. Take a look at your contract and make sure you understand >> the ramifications of it all. >> >> Finally, be sure that a gedcom can be created and off-loaded. Also that >> all media files can be saved off site. Servers are frail and can fail. >> There is no guarantee that any of the Paid online Genealogical Services >> will send you a full backup if their systems fail. >> >> Martha A Crosley Graham >> Allegheny County Coordinator >> State Coordinator: California GenWeb >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/27/2014 02:48:26
    1. [ALL] Genealogical Software
    2. Martha A Crosley Graham
    3. Good Morning, No offense to PAF users, but why would anyone want to continue to use software that will never be updated? PAF served it's purpose and it is time to let it retire. The online function of the FS Tree is not -IMHO- acceptable either. Reasons? As of right now, there is no way to create a gedcom for backup and the whole system of servers that FS uses are subject to internal server errors. Who knows what havoc that causes to data? So, in the interest of finding and using modern genealogical software, let me just say that there are a lot of programs out there that are not only inexpensive, but exciting to use. Granted, there is a learning curve to everything we do webwise, but that is what keeps our minds functioning. Try Legacy Family Tree 8, there is a free version and the deluxe version is only $30.00. This is cheap compared to some of the other stuff out there. FTM is more expensive and of course is owned by Ancestry. Both Roots Magic and Legacy integrate with FS which is an interesting search tool when used properly. Here is a list of others: https://familysearch.org/products One last bit of information. The past couple of years has brought a proliferation of businesses that promote Genealogical research by offering online data entry and storage of that data. As with any purchase: Buyer Beware! Those businesses that offer online data entry can and will sell your files. The ability to control who sees and uses your research should be you, not Ancestry, My Heritage or even FamilySearch. Take a look at your contract and make sure you understand the ramifications of it all. Finally, be sure that a gedcom can be created and off-loaded. Also that all media files can be saved off site. Servers are frail and can fail. There is no guarantee that any of the Paid online Genealogical Services will send you a full backup if their systems fail. Martha A Crosley Graham Allegheny County Coordinator State Coordinator: California GenWeb

    01/26/2014 11:52:58
    1. Re: [ALL] paf 5
    2. Larry Thompson
    3. Anne: Thank you, it worked perfectly. Larry On 1/26/2014 10:55 PM, Anne Gallagher wrote: -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

    01/26/2014 04:04:46
    1. Re: [ALL] paf 5
    2. Anne Gallagher
    3. Larry - I have it, but Gmail won't allow me to send .exe files (even if zipped). I uploaded a copy here, and then tried to download it and run it, works perfectly........ http://www.filedropper.com/paf5englishsetup (no registration required) I'm using Firefox with ad-blocking, so there is only one 'download' button on the page. The file name is paf5englishsetup.exe If you use Internet Explorer, make sure you click the download button directly beneath where the URL and EMBED code are in the middle of the page. Both make you enter a CAPTCHA code before the download starts. .........anyone else who may want to keep a copy, feel free to download. Don't know how long that website will retain the file, though, I'm sure they periodically delete them. Anne On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > Hi group: > Does anyone on the list have a copy of the installation file for the > subject? I'm upgrading to a new computer and you cannot get it from > familysearch any longer. > > Larry > >

    01/26/2014 03:55:23
    1. [ALL] paf 5
    2. Larry Thompson
    3. Hi group: Does anyone on the list have a copy of the installation file for the subject? I'm upgrading to a new computer and you cannot get it from familysearch any longer. Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

    01/26/2014 01:38:35
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 25, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 25, 1930    wednesday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7NsnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1825%2C1497688 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 27 BULGER, Lucius M.        81 yo  Avalon                     1930-6-24 LEHMAN, Louisa A. nee ALTVATER  60 yo                      1930-6-22 McCALL, Catherine E. nee THORNTON  Juniata St.             1930-6-23 BARNES, J. William       56 yo  Homestead                  1930-6-23            Death Notices  Page 27 BARNES, J. William       56 yo  Homestead                  1930-6-23 BULGER, Lucius M.               Avalon                     1930-6-24 BROWN, William H. Jr.    28 yo  Cleveland, OH              1930-6-14 BIEL, Theodore G.        37 yo  Carrick                    1930-6-23 CERRA, Rosario           66 yo  North Tyson St.            1930-6-23 FISHER, Lavinnia Catherine  82 yo  Northside               1930-6-24 GEIB, Adam                      Montooth St. 18th Ward     1930-6-24 KOHLER, Mary             67 yo  Butler, PA                 1930-6-25 KERRIGAN, Ellen nee HAYS        Los Angeles, CA            1930-6-23 LEHMAN, Louisa A. nee ALTVATER  60 yo                      1930-6-22 LAGER, Ellen             23 yo  Lowell St.                 1930-6-23 LAWLELL, John Joseph      8 yo                             1930-6-23 McCALL, Catherine E. nee THORNTON  Juniata St.             1930-6-23 MAGINNIS, Constance                                        1930-6-24 MODISPACHER, Mary Amelia nee HOCHSCHWENDER  Penn Ave.      1930-6-24 MULLEN, Patrick Joseph          Oakland                    1930-6-22 NEALON, James J.         20 yo  Toledo, OH                 1930-6-22 NOAH, David Finley              Ingram                     1930-6-23 OHL, J. Arthur                                             1930-6-24 ROBB, Mary E. nee JONES                                    1930-6-23 SEIFERT, Anna M.                                           1930-6-24 STEPHENS, Albert A.      73 yo  Lithgow Ave.  Northside    1930-6-22 SCHINDEHUTTE, Philomena nee VOLK  73 yo  Duquesne Heights  1930-6-23 SHANNON, Beatrice        33 yo  Lowell St.                 1930-6-22 THIEKER, Amanda                 Mars, PA                   1930-6-24 TAFEL, Frank K.          77 yo  Mt. Washington             1930-6-24 WUNDER, Katherine        76 yo  Fingal St. 19th Ward       1930-6-24 WEYMAN, Peter                   Morningside                1930-6-24 YAGLE, John              81 yo  Wilkins Ave.               1930-6-24 Bob

    01/26/2014 06:24:05
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 24, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 24, 1930    tuesday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=69snAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3795%2C1757853 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 24 BURGER, Anna Margaret nee BAUER  79 yo  Sharpsburg, PA     1930-6-22 EVANS, Thomas D.         55 yo  Massachusetts Ave.         1930-6-22 GREGG, Stephen B.        79 yo  Pittsburgh Hospital        1930-6-22 McALISTER, Dr. David M.         Wilkinsburg                1930-6-22 LIPP, Rudolph August     81 yo  Sewickley, PA              1930-6-23            Death Notices  Page 24 BURKET, Keturah Bell nee CORBIN  52 yo                     1930-6-21 BARNES, J. William       56 yo  Homestead                  1930-6-23 BROWN, William H. Jr.    28 yo  Cleveland, OH              1930-6-14 BIEL, Theodore G.        37 yo  Carrick                    1930-6-23 EVANS, Thomas D.         55 yo  Massachusetts Ave.         1930-6-22 GREGG, Stephen B.                                          1930-6-22 HOVIS, John Franklin            Columbia Hospital          1930-6-22 HUFNAGEL, Henrietta C.   60 yo  Carnegie, PA               1930-6-21 JOHNSTON, Dr. William McCandless  77 yo  Lisbon, OH       No Death Date LEHMAN, Louisa A. nee ALTVATER  60 yo                      1930-6-22 LAGER, Ellen             23 yo  Lowell St.                 1930-6-23 LILLO, Mary Ruth                Brookline                  1930-6-22 LIPP, Rudolph August            Sewickley, PA              1930-6-23 MALONE, James P.                Pittsburgh Hospital        1930-6-23 McCALL, Catherine E. nee THORNTON  Juniata St.             1930-6-23 MULLEN, Patrick Joseph          Oakland                    1930-6-22 McALISTER, Dr. David M.         Wilkinsburg                1930-6-22 McCLELLAND, Lillian nee HENRY  1 yo   Etna                 1930-6-23 McDOUGALL, John                 San Diego, CA              1930-6-19 NOAH, David Finley              Ingram                     1930-6-23 RILEY, Mary nee SHERREY         45th St.                   1930-6-22 ROBB, Mary E. nee JONES                                    1930-6-23 STEPHENS, Albert A.      73 yo  Lithgow Ave.  Northside    1930-6-22 SHAFFER, Henry E.        66 yo  Carnegie, PA               1930-6-23 SCHINDEHUTTE, Philomena nee VOLK  73 yo  Duquesne Heights  1930-6-23 SHANNON, Beatrice        33 yo  Lowell St.                 1930-6-22 SNIGO, John A.                                             1930-6-21 SOLES, Andrew                   Orlando, FL                1930-6-20 Bob

    01/26/2014 06:22:31
    1. Re: [ALL] Joseph L. Leslie
    2. Dawn Butler
    3. ________________________________  Thanks for your help Bella.  I did search Grave Creek and found both Moundsville and Elizabethtown as alternative names -that is why I was confused about place of birth. I will search the BMD's for West Virginia.  I don't know why Joseph and his wife were living separately- I can only guess he never went home after the war.  Somewhere I have a census for 1870 or 1880 that I think is him and he is married in Ohio..I must have misfiled it and I do not have a subscription to ancestry at this time.  He is living with his sister-in-law in 1900 in Clearfield, PA but then must have moved to Indiana where he died in a home for disabled volunteer soldiers.  I have all of his Civil War records as well as the death certificate from Indiana- but nothing gives parents names.  The censuses show Noah was born in Ohio- but in one it says Pennsylvania.  Dawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:57:05 -0600 (CST) From: lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [ALL] Joseph L. Leslie and Lincoln letter To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2711129.279272.1390651025905.JavaMail.root@vms170029> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"   1. A simple google search for "Grave Creek WV"   shows a bunch of hits for an area around Moundsville WV, where an   archealogical prehistoric mound is found.   2. Birth records for 1824 are going to be hard to find, but luckily   West Virginia has about the nicest collection going on the internet.   Google West Virginia BMD's or Vital Records and pick the one which   is for WV Archives, the most important looking link of the bunch. Not to say   that there is   one for Joseph, but that source is the best anywhere to look.   3.  What  is your best explanation why Joseph and his wife were living   separately   in those censuses you name?   4. Did you research the dates of Vital Record holdings for (Marion) Indiana?   Did you send   for a death cert for Joseph from there? If not done yet, do it.   5. What do the censuses show for the place of birth for Noah, Joseph's   brother?   Bella   On 01/24/14, Dawn Butler<dawncts@yahoo.com> wrote:   One of my brick walls is finding the parents of Joseph L. Leslie. I may have   posted before but thought I would try again. According to Civil War records   I believe Joseph was born in Grave Creek??, WV approximately 1824 which may   have been called something else at the time of his birth. Joseph was married   to Sabra Hartwell and married in Jamestown, NY. He lived in Athens, PA in   1850, Titusville, PA in 1860 and served in the 18th PA Cavalry Company D   from 1862-1865. I have all of his Civil War Records. In the 1870 census his   wife Sabra was living in Titusville and in 1880 she was living in Allegheny   and marital status was reported as widowed. In 1900 Joseph (I think this is   my Joseph) was living in Union, Clearfield, PA with his sister-in -law (If   this is correct then his brother is Noah Leslie). Joseph died March 23, 1905   in Marion, Indiana and is buried in Marion National Cemetery. I believe his   father was born in Scotland- this is consistent on most all   of the census for Joseph and Noah. I have Sabra's death date and a good   amount of information on Noah's family. Noah died in 1892 in Summerville, PA   but I don't have a death record. I could use any suggestions to find out   more about Joseph's parents but here are my questions:   -I had found a census for 1870 or 1880 that had a Joseph Leslie that I   thought was mine (could have been listed as JL Leslie or Jos Leslie or   spelled Lesley) but I must have misplaced it and I currently don't have a   subscription to ancestry-If I remember correctly in this census he was   living in Ohio and I believe it had his birthplace as WV or VA and he was   married again. can someone find this for me?   -are there any birth records for Grave Creek WV?   -his brother Noah was born in either Ohio or PA approximately 1822 but I   have not been able to find any record of this. Suggestions?   -In the book &quot;The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln&quot; I saw this   and was wondering if anyone would know where a copy could be found if there   actually is a copy: Oct. 19. To Ethan A. Hitchcock, on petition for exchange   of Lieut. Thomas J. Crossley, 57th Pa. Vols., and Joseph L. Leslie, 18th Pa.   Cav,&quot;Respectfully submitted to Gen. Hitchcock A. LINCOLN &quot;   Thanks in advance for you help.   ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website:   [1]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm   -------------------------------   To  unsubscribe  from  the  list,  please  send  an  email  to   [2]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the   quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/25/2014 10:34:16
    1. Re: [ALL] Hiring a Pro Genealogist
    2. FredandMaryFran Powell
    3. Carol, happy to be able to offer a bit of help now and then. Best of luck, Mary Fran On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:52 AM, <mikesmom958@aol.com> wrote: > Mary Fran, > Thanks so much for the info. I will try to email her. Although I have > quite a bit of information for my 3rd great grandparents in Pittsburgh, > I still can't find where he came from in Germany. Maybe Amy has some > ideas of where I can search next or if she's still working as a > genealogist, I can hire her. There may be some records there in PA that > I haven't thought about searching yet. In any case, thank you for the > information. You've been very helpful! > > Carol in California > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/25/2014 09:03:24
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 23, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 23, 1930    monday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6tsnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5114%2C1991363 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)                Obituaries Page 25 JOHNSTON, Dr. William McCandless  77 yo  Lisbon, OH       No Death Date BAKER, Charles W.        79 yo  Coraopolis Heights         1930-6-21 KAISER, Philomina Kim    73 yo  Perrysville Ave.           1930-6-20 WERNER, Sarah A. nee BUTLER  73 yo  Carrick                1930-6-21 MOHNEY, Jonathan M.      76 yo  Baum Blvd.                 1930-6-22 SPEER, William L.        79 yo  Oakdale, PA               No Death DAte            Death Notices  Page 25 BURKET, Keturah Bell nee CORBIN  52 yo                     1930-6-21 BARNDOLLAR, Wilbur H.           Pine Creek, PA             1930-6-21 BAKER, Charles Walter    80 yo  Coraopolis Heights         1930-6-21 BURGER, Anna Margaret nee BAUER  80 yo  Sharpsburg, PA     1930-6-22 BROCKE, Gerhard Joseph III  12 yo  Bellevue                1930-6-21 BUNGERT, Jacob           40 yo  Veteran's Hosp. Aspinwall  1930-6-21 CAMERON, John Jr.                                          1930-6-20 DAVIES, David R.         86 yo  Scottdale, PA              1930-6-22 EVANS, Thomas D.         55 yo  Massachusetts Ave.         1930-6-22 GREGG, Stephen B.                                          1930-6-22 HOVIS, John Franklin            Columbia Hospital          1930-6-22 HUFNAGEL, Henrietta C.   60 yo  Carnegie, PA               1930-6-21 HOLBAUGH, Estella               Beaver Valley Gen. Hosp.   1930-6-21 JOHNSTON, Dr. William McCandless  77 yo  Lisbon, OH       No Death Date KELLY, Patrick F.                                          1930-6-21 LEHMAN, Louisa A. nee ALTVATER  60 yo                      1930-6-22 MULLEN, Patrick Joseph          Oakland                    1930-6-22 McALISTER, Dr. David M.         Wilkinsburg                1930-6-22 MONLER, Arthur M.        52 yo  O'Hara Twp.                1930-6-21 RILEY, Mary nee SHERREY         45th St.                   1930-6-22 SNIGO, John A.                                             1930-6-21 SENN, Katherine nee MESTA  68 yo  Knoxville                1930-6-19 SCHMOKER, Dr. Harry J.   44 yo  West Penn Hospital         1930-6-21 SCOTT, James Irvine             Towanda, PA                1930-6-22 WERNER, Sarah A. nee BUTLER  73 yo  Carrick                1930-6-21 Bob

    01/25/2014 06:22:23
    1. [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 21, 1930
    2. Bob Gartz
    3. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Jun 21, 1930    saturday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6dsnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jWgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3041%2C2250489 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death)            Death Notices  Page 24 ANTON, Catherine nee BYRNE      South Aiken Ave.           1930-6-18 BONGARTZ, Jacob C.              Rosedale Place             1930-6-20 COX, Carrie Evangie             Westmoreland Hospital      1930-6-19 DONEHOO, Dr. Robert Shields  82 yo  Dormont                1930-6-20 EWENS, Harold Guy Jr.    17 yo  Dormont                    1930-6-19 GILLESPIE, Andrew                                          1930-6-19 HOTTES, William C.              Alleghney General Hosp.    1930-6-19 JACKSON, Mary A.                Oakland                    1930-6-19 JONES, Mathew                   Imperial, PA               1930-6-18 KAISER, Philomina Kim    73 yo                             1930-6-20 McCOMB, Sarah Jane              Logans Ferry Rd.           1930-6-20 McTAGGERT, Susan nee McINTYRE   Beechview                  1930-6-19 McWILLIAMS, Christina nee BROWN  32 yo                     1930-6-18 McMANNIS, Charles C.            East Liberty               1930-6-19 MYERS, Margaret A.              Sheraden                   1930-6-19 REICHLE, Margaret               near Evans City, PA        1930-6-20 RICE, Ellen E.           44 yo  Pittsburgh Hospital        1930-6-19 SPEER, William L.        79 yo  Oakdale, PA               No Death DAte SENN, Katherine nee MESTA  68 yo  Knoxville                1930-6-19 STAUFF, John Byron       38 yo  Mt. Lebanon                1930-6-17 WILCOX, Charles A.                                         1930-6-18 WILSON, Joseph                  Butler St.                 1930-6-19 Bob

    01/25/2014 06:20:42
    1. [ALL] Hiring a Pro Genealogist
    2. Mary Fran, Thanks so much for the info. I will try to email her. Although I have quite a bit of information for my 3rd great grandparents in Pittsburgh, I still can't find where he came from in Germany. Maybe Amy has some ideas of where I can search next or if she's still working as a genealogist, I can hire her. There may be some records there in PA that I haven't thought about searching yet. In any case, thank you for the information. You've been very helpful! Carol in California

    01/25/2014 03:52:57
    1. [ALL] Grave Creek
    2. >From my New and Complete Gazetteer of the United States, 1854: "Grave Creek, a thriving postal village, capital of Marshall county Virginia....situated on the left bank of the Ohio 12 miles below Wheeling. It is divided into two distinct villages, of nearly equal size, namely Elizabethtown and Moundsville...The name of the post office is Grave Creek....." This could explain why there may be a question of the correct name of the place of birth. Bob Buckler

    01/25/2014 03:50:30
    1. Re: [ALL] Weeks - Wahn - Whan
    2. Have you tried [1]www.findagrave.com ? Bella On 01/25/14, Carol A. Harris<charris721@aol.com> wrote: I am looking for a Lawrence Weeks who was born in with Allegheny County or Beaver County about 1943 to Margaret (Peggy) Wahn and Lawrence Weeks. Margaret died in 1944. Lawrence, Sr. was born in Ohio in 1870 and Margaret in New Brighton in 1912. Margaret had brothers John N and Edward Whan/Wahn. More info on any of these folks will be appreciated. I would like to find where they are buried in the New Brighton or Pittsburgh area. Thank you. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: [2]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.findagrave.com/ 2. http://www.pagenweb.org/ 3. mailto:PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com

    01/25/2014 02:38:05
    1. [ALL] Weeks - Wahn - Whan
    2. Carol A. Harris
    3. I am looking for a Lawrence Weeks who was born in with Allegheny County or Beaver County about 1943 to Margaret (Peggy) Wahn and Lawrence Weeks. Margaret died in 1944. Lawrence, Sr. was born in Ohio in 1870 and Margaret in New Brighton in 1912. Margaret had brothers John N and Edward Whan/Wahn. More info on any of these folks will be appreciated. I would like to find where they are buried in the New Brighton or Pittsburgh area. Thank you.

    01/25/2014 01:48:06
    1. Re: [ALL] Weeks - Wahn - Whan
    2. Donald Krieger
    3. Hi Carol, Both the Oakland (main) Carnegie Library and the Heinz History Center have an obituary index covering post the Post-Gazette and Herald Tribune for large blocks of years although there are breaks.  They will search these for you for Wahn/Whan for a modest fee.  It might be worth a try for your search for her sibs if you haven't done so already.   Don On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:51 AM, Carol A. Harris <charris721@aol.com> wrote: I am looking for a Lawrence Weeks who was born in with Allegheny County or Beaver County about 1943 to Margaret (Peggy) Wahn and Lawrence Weeks.  Margaret died in 1944. Lawrence, Sr. was born in Ohio in 1870 and Margaret in New Brighton in 1912. Margaret had brothers John N and Edward Whan/Wahn. More info on any of these folks will be appreciated. I would like to find where they are buried in the New Brighton or Pittsburgh area. Thank you. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/24/2014 11:10:27
    1. Re: [ALL] Joseph L. Leslie and Lincoln letter
    2. 1. A simple google search for "Grave Creek WV" shows a bunch of hits for an area around Moundsville WV, where an archealogical prehistoric mound is found. 2. Birth records for 1824 are going to be hard to find, but luckily West Virginia has about the nicest collection going on the internet. Google West Virginia BMD's or Vital Records and pick the one which is for WV Archives, the most important looking link of the bunch. Not to say that there is one for Joseph, but that source is the best anywhere to look. 3. What is your best explanation why Joseph and his wife were living separately in those censuses you name? 4. Did you research the dates of Vital Record holdings for (Marion) Indiana? Did you send for a death cert for Joseph from there? If not done yet, do it. 5. What do the censuses show for the place of birth for Noah, Joseph's brother? Bella On 01/24/14, Dawn Butler<dawncts@yahoo.com> wrote: One of my brick walls is finding the parents of Joseph L. Leslie. I may have posted before but thought I would try again. According to Civil War records I believe Joseph was born in Grave Creek??, WV approximately 1824 which may have been called something else at the time of his birth. Joseph was married to Sabra Hartwell and married in Jamestown, NY. He lived in Athens, PA in 1850, Titusville, PA in 1860 and served in the 18th PA Cavalry Company D from 1862-1865. I have all of his Civil War Records. In the 1870 census his wife Sabra was living in Titusville and in 1880 she was living in Allegheny and marital status was reported as widowed. In 1900 Joseph (I think this is my Joseph) was living in Union, Clearfield, PA with his sister-in -law (If this is correct then his brother is Noah Leslie). Joseph died March 23, 1905 in Marion, Indiana and is buried in Marion National Cemetery. I believe his father was born in Scotland- this is consistent on most all of the census for Joseph and Noah. I have Sabra's death date and a good amount of information on Noah's family. Noah died in 1892 in Summerville, PA but I don't have a death record. I could use any suggestions to find out more about Joseph's parents but here are my questions: -I had found a census for 1870 or 1880 that had a Joseph Leslie that I thought was mine (could have been listed as JL Leslie or Jos Leslie or spelled Lesley) but I must have misplaced it and I currently don't have a subscription to ancestry-If I remember correctly in this census he was living in Ohio and I believe it had his birthplace as WV or VA and he was married again. can someone find this for me? -are there any birth records for Grave Creek WV? -his brother Noah was born in either Ohio or PA approximately 1822 but I have not been able to find any record of this. Suggestions? -In the book &quot;The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln&quot; I saw this and was wondering if anyone would know where a copy could be found if there actually is a copy: Oct. 19. To Ethan A. Hitchcock, on petition for exchange of Lieut. Thomas J. Crossley, 57th Pa. Vols., and Joseph L. Leslie, 18th Pa. Cav,&quot;Respectfully submitted to Gen. Hitchcock A. LINCOLN &quot; Thanks in advance for you help. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: [1]http://www.pagenweb.org/~allegheny/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.pagenweb.org/ 2. mailto:PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com

    01/24/2014 10:57:05