Is that just for Allegheny County PA? I am surprised the article does not give a reference as to how to find out more about the records. I thought some of those old records were given to the University of Pittsburgh, but perhaps I am remembering something else. JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Cendrowski" <MickeyC@consolidated.net> To: "+ PAALLEGH-L" <PAALLEGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [ALL] Coroner's Records for Allegheny County >I just read in the May/June 2010 issue of "Family Chronicle" magazine, page >52 about Coroner Case Files. > > In that issue I read "The database holds approximately 206,000 individual > names, dates and docket numbers associated with the case file. Within > seconds, it can be searched to determine if a file exists. The only > information needed to search the database is first and last name." > > Is this database available online, so that I can search it from my home, > to see if a case file does exist for my ancestor? > > If so, can someone please provide the link and instructions. > > Thank you > > Mickey > ...the impossible just takes longer > MickeyC@consolidated.net > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just read in the May/June 2010 issue of "Family Chronicle" magazine, page 52 about Coroner Case Files. In that issue I read "The database holds approximately 206,000 individual names, dates and docket numbers associated with the case file. Within seconds, it can be searched to determine if a file exists. The only information needed to search the database is first and last name." Is this database available online, so that I can search it from my home, to see if a case file does exist for my ancestor? If so, can someone please provide the link and instructions. Thank you Mickey ...the impossible just takes longer MickeyC@consolidated.net

Hi group: I have an orphans court date for Alexander Maxwell s estate of June 12, 1869. I was wondering how long after the death this is generally filed. I don't have a death date for Alexander and wanted to start scanning through google news to try to find the obit. Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Dear Listers Does anyone know anything about a Thomas Payton Funeral Director? I'm looking for information about the funeral home that was located at 30 McClure Avenue, Allegheny City. I've two obits that list him as the funeral director. I was able to locate him in city directories and the address in the maps on historic Pittsburgh. The time frame I have is 1880 - 1900 but I'm sure he was practicing longer than that. I appreciate your help. Thanks Lauraly

Hi, Did your ancestor John Roenick (1865-1908) have a grandson named John Roenick who lived in Brackenridge, PA? If so he and his wife were friends of my parents. Clare in Fla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LIBBY GRIMM" <grimml@verizon.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [ALL] Records from St. Pauls Lutheran Church, Tarentum, PA (German-Lutheran Church) > Jeffery: Contact me about St. Paul German Lutheran Church, Tarentum, PA. > Libby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeffrey Roenick" <jroenick@alignedbusinesssolutions.com> > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:44 AM > Subject: [ALL] Records from St. Pauls Lutheran Church, Tarentum,PA > (German-Lutheran Church) > > >> Have run into a dead end on this one. My relatives went to St. Paul's >> back >> in the 1800's but all records disappeared from the church. I have been >> in >> contact with both Thiel College and the SW Penn Lutheren Senate without >> and >> luck. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated in finding >> information >> on George Christoff Roenick (born 1833; died 1908) or his son John >> Roenick >> (born 1865; died 1908). Both are buried at prospect cemetery. I am >> looking >> for confirmation that John is in fact G.C.'s son and any supporting >> information on where George was born. >> >> >> >> Jeffrey S. Roenick >> >> Partner >> >> Aligned Business Solutions, LLC >> >> Cell: 301-943-3241 Ofc: 703-752-3748 >> >> www.alignedbusinesssolutions.com >> >> >> >> "Aligning People, Process, Strategy & Technology" >> >> This communication, along with any attachments, is covered by Federal and >> State law governing electronic communications and it may contain legally >> privileged and confidential information that is to be used only by the >> intended recipient. If you received this message in error, please destroy >> it >> and all attachments immediately without opening, reading, saving, or >> printing, and immediately notify the sender by a separate email message >> at >> the address above. >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Thanks Al, I never knew where it was HELEN > Carol & Helen, > > St Augustine's was a German Catholic Church and school. St Aug's > Church is on 37th St, IIRC, above Butler. > > Al > > > > At 03:55 PM 1/26/2011, you wrote: >>Carol, >>Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area >> belonged >>to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in >>Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the >>Northside I think >>HELEN in Pgh. >> >> >>Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, >> > etc.) >> > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the >> mid >> > to >> > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in >> the >> > 17th >> > ward (Lawrenceville area). >> > >> > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret >> Roy, >> > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in >> Kilkeel,Down, >> > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. >> > >> > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of >> > Ireland >> > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling >> > away >> > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? >> > >> > Thank in advance for any clues. >> > >> > Carol >> > >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> > >> > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wanted transcripts from the newspapers. Remove my name from this type of listing.

Well, I'm going to jump in here. Carol, if they lived in County Down, are you sure they attended the Church of Ireland there? Were they Irish, or Scots who immigrated during the Plantation of Ulster period? If so, they were probably Presbyterians in Ireland and Presbyterians in Pittsburgh. It is my understanding that most of the Protestants in Northern Ireland were Presbyterians. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks, Kathy Matlock -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paallegh-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:48 PM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: PAALLEGH Digest, Vol 6, Issue 44 PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE WHEN REPLYING TO THE DIGEST. Today's Topics: 1. GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (carol battin) 2. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (Norm) 3. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (John Steitz) 4. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (roger@fyi.net) 5. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (JR Jamieson) 6. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (Al Lenkner) 7. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (John Steitz) 8. Re: GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? (Al Lenkner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:03:58 -0500 From: carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net> Subject: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: PA-ALLEGH <PAALLEGH-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTikk+HpgSfvzcH1n1WZBOMwmrFbFzHAJmDviHSBH@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, etc.) surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the 17th ward (Lawrenceville area). I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of Ireland before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? Thank in advance for any clues. Carol ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:11:17 -0500 From: Norm <normmeinert@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D4047A5.10601@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Carol -- I have no family ties . . . if these were Irish Catholic's they may have worshipped at St. Joseph's in Bloomfield or St. Mary's in Lawrenceville. -- Norm carol battin wrote: > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in > the 17th ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret > Roy, wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in > Kilkeel,Down, Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > Ireland before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a > pulling away from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:26:20 -0500 From: John Steitz <john.steitz@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=O9aWizozSBzL3SMqBKSs9Me3Hs4-agq1VoPbB@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Carol- I am guessing Episcopal as equivalent to Church of England. I know of no feud between Church of Ireland and Church of England. The same, just different countries. John On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in > the 17th ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret > Roy, wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in > Kilkeel,Down, Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > Ireland before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a > pulling away from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:55:41 -0500 (EST) From: roger@fyi.net Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1611.24.3.112.94.1296075341.squirrel@webmail.fyi.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Carol, Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the Northside I think HELEN in Pgh. Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in > the 17th ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret > Roy, wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in > Kilkeel,Down, Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > Ireland before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a > pulling away from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0500 From: "JR Jamieson" <jr@jjamieson.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <255B895990464148A462809EB8C0236B@yourb27fb1c401> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original St Augustine locates 3600 Butler St Pittsburgh PA 15201 Here is a link: seraphicmass.org JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: <roger@fyi.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? > Carol, > Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged > to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in > Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the > Northside I think > HELEN in Pgh. > > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, >> etc.) >> surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid >> to >> late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the >> 17th >> ward (Lawrenceville area). >> >> I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, >> wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, >> Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. >> >> A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of >> Ireland >> before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling >> away >> from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? >> >> Thank in advance for any clues. >> >> Carol >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:42:35 -0500 From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@sgi.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20110126214240.DD1C17C58C@smtp-auth-03.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Norm, St Joe's originally was a German Catholic Parish. Since the old 17th was part of Lawrenceville, they probably attended St. Keirnan's (not sure of the spelling but I think it still exists.). Al At 11:11 AM 1/26/2011, you wrote: >Carol -- I have no family ties . . . if these were Irish Catholic's they >may have worshipped at St. Joseph's in Bloomfield or St. Mary's in >Lawrenceville. -- Norm > >carol battin wrote: > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, > Gouldtrap, etc.) > > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living > in the 17th > > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church > of Ireland > > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away > > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > > > Carol > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:44:38 -0500 From: John Steitz <john.steitz@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTimpPKmLyipbvmJ2hSzgQXw8zP9tD4boaJP_ve9y@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 St Augustine is a Catholic Church. The Church of Ireland is a Protestant church. The Chutrch of Ireland is the Irish equivalent of The Church of England. It became the official legal church of Ireland because the crown made it that way. The Catholic Church in Ireland was illegal or at least unrecognized until mid 1800's as were several other religions to varing degree. That I am 100% certain. I am not certain but believe they would have been Episcopal in Pittsburgh similar to Evangelische in germany being called Lutheran in US. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:27 PM, JR Jamieson <jr@jjamieson.com> wrote: > > St Augustine locates 3600 Butler St Pittsburgh PA 15201 > > Here is a link: > > seraphicmass.org > > > JR Jamieson > > jr@jjamieson.com > 412 343 9264 > > Home of the Steeler Nation > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roger@fyi.net> > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland > ? > > > > Carol, > > Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area > belonged > > to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in > > Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the > > Northside I think > > HELEN in Pgh. > > > > > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > >> etc.) > >> surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > >> to > >> late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > >> 17th > >> ward (Lawrenceville area). > >> > >> I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > >> wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > >> Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > >> > >> A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > >> Ireland > >> before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling > >> away > >> from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > >> > >> Thank in advance for any clues. > >> > >> Carol > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:48:01 -0500 From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@sgi.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20110126214806.45E5CE538C@smtp-auth-04.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Carol & Helen, St Augustine's was a German Catholic Church and school. St Aug's Church is on 37th St, IIRC, above Butler. Al At 03:55 PM 1/26/2011, you wrote: >Carol, >Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged >to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in >Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the >Northside I think >HELEN in Pgh. > > >Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > > etc.) > > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > > to > > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > > 17th > > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > > Ireland > > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling > > away > > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > > > Carol > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the PAALLEGH list administrator, send an email to PAALLEGH-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Carol & Helen, St Augustine's was a German Catholic Church and school. St Aug's Church is on 37th St, IIRC, above Butler. Al At 03:55 PM 1/26/2011, you wrote: >Carol, >Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged >to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in >Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the >Northside I think >HELEN in Pgh. > > >Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > > etc.) > > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > > to > > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > > 17th > > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > > Ireland > > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling > > away > > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > > > Carol > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St Augustine is a Catholic Church. The Church of Ireland is a Protestant church. The Chutrch of Ireland is the Irish equivalent of The Church of England. It became the official legal church of Ireland because the crown made it that way. The Catholic Church in Ireland was illegal or at least unrecognized until mid 1800's as were several other religions to varing degree. That I am 100% certain. I am not certain but believe they would have been Episcopal in Pittsburgh similar to Evangelische in germany being called Lutheran in US. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:27 PM, JR Jamieson <jr@jjamieson.com> wrote: > > St Augustine locates 3600 Butler St Pittsburgh PA 15201 > > Here is a link: > > seraphicmass.org > > > JR Jamieson > > jr@jjamieson.com > 412 343 9264 > > Home of the Steeler Nation > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roger@fyi.net> > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland > ? > > > > Carol, > > Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area > belonged > > to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in > > Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the > > Northside I think > > HELEN in Pgh. > > > > > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > >> etc.) > >> surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > >> to > >> late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > >> 17th > >> ward (Lawrenceville area). > >> > >> I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > >> wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > >> Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > >> > >> A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > >> Ireland > >> before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling > >> away > >> from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > >> > >> Thank in advance for any clues. > >> > >> Carol > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Norm, St Joe's originally was a German Catholic Parish. Since the old 17th was part of Lawrenceville, they probably attended St. Keirnan's (not sure of the spelling but I think it still exists.). Al At 11:11 AM 1/26/2011, you wrote: >Carol -- I have no family ties . . . if these were Irish Catholic's they >may have worshipped at St. Joseph's in Bloomfield or St. Mary's in >Lawrenceville. -- Norm > >carol battin wrote: > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, > Gouldtrap, etc.) > > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living > in the 17th > > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church > of Ireland > > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away > > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > > > Carol > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St Augustine locates 3600 Butler St Pittsburgh PA 15201 Here is a link: seraphicmass.org JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: <roger@fyi.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [ALL] GILTRAP surname and Church of Ireland ? > Carol, > Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged > to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in > Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the > Northside I think > HELEN in Pgh. > > > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, >> etc.) >> surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid >> to >> late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the >> 17th >> ward (Lawrenceville area). >> >> I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, >> wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, >> Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. >> >> A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of >> Ireland >> before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling >> away >> from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? >> >> Thank in advance for any clues. >> >> Carol >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol, Early on some of my relatives who lived in the Lawrenceville area belonged to St. Augustine. Say about 1860-1880. Later they belong to St. Joseph in Bloomfield. I am not sure where Augustine was. More in toward the Northside I think HELEN in Pgh. Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid > to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > 17th > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of > Ireland > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling > away > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol- I am guessing Episcopal as equivalent to Church of England. I know of no feud between Church of Ireland and Church of England. The same, just different countries. John On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, > etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the > 17th > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of Ireland > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol -- I have no family ties . . . if these were Irish Catholic's they may have worshipped at St. Joseph's in Bloomfield or St. Mary's in Lawrenceville. -- Norm carol battin wrote: > Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, etc.) > surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to > late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the 17th > ward (Lawrenceville area). > > I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, > wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, > Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. > > A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of Ireland > before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away > from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? > > Thank in advance for any clues. > > Carol > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone have ties to a the Giltrap (Gilltrap, Goldtrap, Gouldtrap, etc.) surname? I have found a William H. Giltrap and wife, Ellen, in the mid to late 19th century city directories. At one time they were living in the 17th ward (Lawrenceville area). I am on the trail to prove that my 3rd great-grandmother, Margaret Roy, wife of Robert, was a Gouldtrap before an 1846 marriage in Kilkeel,Down, Ireland. They also lived in the 17th ward. A related question: Where did families who attended the Church of Ireland before immigration worship in the 17th ward area? Was there a pulling away from the state church when the Scot-Irish immigrated? Thank in advance for any clues. Carol

Just returned from a 3-week trip and catching up. My Allegheny County surnames are: BEATTIE, WAUGH, GORDON, FISHER, EAMES, WATSON, MCCLUNE or McCLUEN, MINER/MINOR, MCCUTCHEON, WOLMSLEY, ALEXANDER, MORRISON. Con Delaware Tomi Larson wrote: > Hello List, It's a new year, so how about posting our surname interests? I am researching these names in the Pittsburgh area: LEWIS, HOLMAN, HOHMAN/HOHMANN, GEISLER, LANG, CYPHERS, WOOLSLAYER, JONES - mostly 1800s. The German names mostly lived in the East Liberty area and attended Sts. Peter and Paul Church. > Regards and thank you to all who work so hard on the Indexing. > Tomi LarsonOswego, NY > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Rick, Welcome to this very helpful list. What are of the surnames you are researching? Where did your people go after leaving Allegeny County? ~Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWilson7@aol.com> To: <PAALLEGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:05 AM Subject: [ALL] New to the list > Dear listers, > > I am new to the Allegheny listserv and would be interesting to hear from > people about what resources -- online or offline -- they have found to be > the > most helpful with their research. I am already familiar with the > microfilms I can order from LDS. My family appears to have come from > Ireland shortly > in the early 1800s and left Allegheny prior to 1850. > > Thanks in advance, > > Rick Wilson > New York, NY >

Dear listers, I am new to the Allegheny listserv and would be interesting to hear from people about what resources -- online or offline -- they have found to be the most helpful with their research. I am already familiar with the microfilms I can order from LDS. My family appears to have come from Ireland shortly in the early 1800s and left Allegheny prior to 1850. Thanks in advance, Rick Wilson New York, NY

I was hoping for info transcribed from newspapers - although these notes being passed around are informative. Jane In a message dated 1/24/2011 4:14:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, burnecke@verizon.net writes: I'm looking for information on the Thomas Payton Funeral Home. He was a funeral director around 1880-1900. The address of the funeral home was 30 McClure Ave. Thanks Lauraly ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message