http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030319&printsec=frontpage Page 20 Died: Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Place, Death Date Barr, James, Carnegie, Baird, Olive Ruth, 8 mo, Brushton, March 18, 1903 Booth, Thomas F., (article states this is a women and mother), Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Brand, Henry Jr., 33yrs 2 mo., Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Criswell, Elizabeth, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Cornelius, Abner Maxwell, 29, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Croxton, David H., 43yrs 18 dys, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Cutter, Sarah A., Eskey, 83, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Durbin, Elizabeth J., 64, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Evans, A. R., 46, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Hamilton, Sarah Jane Quigg, Pittsburgh, March 19, 1903 Hammel, Mary, Pahler, 49, Baldwin Twp., March 18, 1903 Harkins, Maggie, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Hug, William, 59, Allegheny City, March 17, 1903 Johnston, Caroline, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Jones, Elizabeth Davis, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Jones, Ann, 69, Pittsburgh, March 19, 1903 Kossen, Albert, 25, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Mackey, John, 1yr 5mo 21 dys, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 McKnight, John Smiley, 33, Allegheny City, McClinton, Jessie Forrest, 34, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 McCallen, John, 76, Sewickley, March 18, 1903 Neiless, Susan, Grant, 32, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Pasqualanelli, Marie Stella, 1yr 2mo, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Penberthy, Thomas, 53, Pittsburgh, March 19, 1903 Neville, Daniel, 42, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Reardon, Margaret, Flynn, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Riley, Thomas, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Smith, Elizabeth, 66, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Shea, Michael, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Wacker, Anna, Gerfter, 39, Allegheny City, March 17, 1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Listers, As you know I have been trying to find the list of names of people who were transferred from the above cemetery to Southside Cem.without success. Some one suggested that it might have been published in the newspaper at the time the bodies were lifted and transferred to Southside I tried to find it myself without any luck. I an wondering if some of you who are more knowledgeable about researching newspapers might have better luck. The bodies were moved on April 27, 1927. The most likely newspaper would have been the Hilltop Record. I have not been able to find that one line. The next likely would be The Pittsburgh Press, or Post Gazette. If any of you would like to try and are successful, I would like a copy for my records and so would Norm Meinert and Nancy Long. Good Hunting HELEN in PGH

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030317&printsec=frontpage Page 33 Died: Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Place, Death Date Shea, Michael, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Sheafer, Alfred W., 53, Pittsburgh, March 18, 1903 Harkins, Maggie, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Boyle, C. C., 77, San Diego, Ca. March 12, 1903 Bush, Elizabeth, Lappe, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Calhoon, Eliza Jane, 16, Woodlawn, Pa, March 16, 1903 Hug, William, 59, Allegheny City, March 17, 1903 Jones, Elizabeth Davis, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Kossen, Albert, 25, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Langner, Phillippina, Emrich, 70, Allegheny City, March 17, 1903 McMahon, Mary Agnes Lagoria, 2 yrs 10 mo, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 McClinton, Jessie Forrest, 34, Allegheny City, March 18, 1903 Reardon, Margaret, Flynn, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Silberesien, Ella Julia, Spring Garden Borough, March 16, 1903 Wilson, James A., 45, Glenwood, March 17, 1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030317&printsec=frontpage Page 17 Died: Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Place, Death Date Boyle, C. C. 77, San Diego Ca. March 12, 1903 Boyce, Lillie, 45, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Beltzhoover, Zara, Atlantic City, March 8, 1903 Brown, Clifford John, 10 mo 9 dys, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Eagle, Letitia Gazzam, Pittsburgh, March 15, 1903 Erlandson, Chas G. 21, Allegheny City, March 16, 1903 Hale, Emma, 63, Wilkinsburg, March 15, 1903 Hare, Jennie, 47, Pittsburgh, March 16, 1903 Hoge, Johanna, 22yrs, 10 mo 27dys, Pittsburgh, March 16, 1903 Langner, Phillippina, Emrich, 70, Pittsburgh, March 17, 1903 Moreland, William A., Pittsburgh, March 16, 1903 Munn, Dr. William, 38, Denver, Col, March 12, 1903 Orr, Mary Crimmin, 60, Pittsburgh, March 16, 1903 Prowdly, Harvey John, 8 mo, 2 wks 2 dys, Allegheny City, March 15, 1903 Silberesien, Ella Julia, Spring Garden Borough, March 16, 1903 Wells, Ella Clara, 45, Pittsburgh, March 15, 1903 Williams, Harlan R., Los Angeles, March 8, 1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Thanks to all who offered help with my Hermansdoerfer query. After doing a bit more detective work, and again speaking to my mother's cousins, we are pretty sure that my hunch is correct and they were related (John Hermansdoerfer was Frederick's uncle). Now, I just have to figure out where I am going to get my proof. Thanks for all your help. Sandy Passman

Search thru cemeteries in the area. Some will allow you to look thru their entries . You may find what you are looking for. Good luck. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-request@rootsweb.com Sender: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:14:11 To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: PAALLEGH Digest, Vol 6, Issue 87 PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE WHEN REPLYING TO THE DIGEST. Today's Topics: 1. Advise please (Sandy Passman) 2. Re: Advise please (JR Jamieson) 3. Re: Advise please (Larry Thompson) 4. Re: Advise please (Sandy Passman) 5. Re: Advise please (JR Jamieson) 6. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 5, 1936 (Bob Gartz) 7. INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 6, 1936 (Bob Gartz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:48:28 -0800 (PST) From: Sandy Passman <sandypassman@yahoo.com> Subject: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <116961.18325.qm@web162019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common ?- Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman? ? ? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:02:35 -0500 From: "JR Jamieson" <jr@jjamieson.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: <sandypassman@yahoo.com>, <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AB70B25431B24CDBA7C614C3F575D666@yourb27fb1c401> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings: Have you considered looking for a marriage record of that name and see what you learn from that. JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Passman" <sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: [ALL] Advise please Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:10:38 -0500 From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D6ACBDE.2090703@epix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it > seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: Sandy Passman <sandypassman@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <895094.47877.qm@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I know that my family would not be on the 1880 census - but I looked there to see if I could find John, Mary, or Edna Marguerite (4 year old who died) Hermansdoerfer.? --- On Sun, 2/27/11, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 5:10 PM Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common? - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it >???seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:27:50 -0500 From: "JR Jamieson" <jr@jjamieson.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com>, <sandypassman@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B604E1E7EFE4D13927C15B37FEB0631@yourb27fb1c401> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Here is the family in the 1890 Directory for Pittsburgh. http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/Pgh1890M.htm JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Passman" <sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please I know that my family would not be on the 1880 census - but I looked there to see if I could find John, Mary, or Edna Marguerite (4 year old who died) Hermansdoerfer. --- On Sun, 2/27/11, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 5:10 PM Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or > direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was > hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a > 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family > but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The > name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not > find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost > in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have > never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or > suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these > other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from > Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. > John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 > sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With > such an uncommon last name, it > seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go > from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:13:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gartz <bobandee@yahoo.com> Subject: [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 5, 1936 To: PAALLEGH@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <840751.75429.qm@web33807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 5, 1936 wednesday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4KUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5081%2C2248579 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) Death Notices Page 22 ATKINS, Katherine nee Giering Northeast, PA 1936-8-2 ANGEL, Mary Anna nee Christ 80 yo South Winebiddle Ave. No Death Date BOTH, Margaret nee Schotte Davos, Switzerland 1936-8-3 BRYEN, George J. Sr. 79 yo Duquesne 1936-8-4 COOK, Arthur East McKeesport 1936-8-4 CONBERIATI, Selma M. nee Quel 38 yo 1936-8-4 CRAIG, J. Elmer Verona 1936-8-3 DAVISON, Harry Leroy 1936-8-3 DURHAM, Richard 1936-8-3 FISHER, Herbert Thomas Cedar Ave. 1936-8-2 GLEW, Margaret nee Harbison East End 1936-8-3 GOWER, Bertha B. 49 yo Squirrel Hill 1936-8-4 McMURRAY, Charles Frederick Atlantic City, NJ 1936-8-3 MILLER, Wesley Wade Mt. Lebanon 1936-8-4 MUELLER, Eleanor nee Niederst 1936-8-2 OTTE, Gustav R. 50 yo Carrick 1936-8-4 REICOFF, Ernest Henry Crafton Heights 1936-8-3 RODGERS, Margaret M. nee Gower East End 1936-8-3 STORY, Tirzah 1936-8-4 Bob ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:14:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gartz <bobandee@yahoo.com> Subject: [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 6, 1936 To: PAALLEGH@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <46286.87974.qm@web33808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 6, 1936 thursday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4aUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5935%2C2024604 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) Obituary Notes Page 22 RIPPY, Eliza Ann 98 yo Allison Park No Death Date MILLER, Wesley Wade 70 yo Mt. Lebanon 1936-8-4 DAVISON, Harry Leroy 35 yo Unity, PA 1936-8-3 Death Notices Page 22 BRYEN, George J. 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Found John & Mary Hermansdoerfer and children in these censuses at familysearch.org under various spellings: 1870 Census-Pittsburgh, Ward 3 HERMANSDERFER, John, age 27 Maria, age 23, Catherine, age 1, born PA 1880 Census-Pittsburgh NARA Film Number: T9-1091 Page: 72 Page Character: A Entry Number: 955 Film number: 1255091 Parent John HERRAUNSDORESFER M 36 Parent May Herraunsdoresfer F 32 Katie Herraunsdoresfer F 10 Agusta Herraunsdoresfer F 8 Adam Herraunsdoresfer M 6 Ida Herraunsdoresfer F 2 Stella Herraunsdoresfer F 1M Lena Deuschle F 16 C. W. Buffern M 25 1900 Census-at 904 james st allegheny city ward 3 HERMANNEDOERFER John, age 57, born Germany, immigrated 1864, naturalized, dyer, owns home Maria, age 53, born Germany, immigrated 1864, bore 10 children, 7 living Augusta 28 Ida 23 Stella 20 George 17 Arthur 10 all children born in PA 1910 Census-Pittsburgh, Ward 20 HERMANSDORFE, John, age 67 wife Mary, age 63 child Anna, age 35 child Author, age 20 child Katie B. Fitzgerald, age 32 child Stella M. Johnston, age 30 Charles J. Johnston, age 8 --Original Message----- From: Sandy Passman <sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: paallegh <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 4:51 pm Subject: [ALL] Advise please Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or irection. hile looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to ee my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who as the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a ood chance they are related to my family. The name is not common - ermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my other, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would nyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if here is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in he US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, ttended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He ad 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With uch an uncommon last name, it seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from ere. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman

Here is the family in the 1890 Directory for Pittsburgh. http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/Pgh1890M.htm JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Passman" <sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please I know that my family would not be on the 1880 census - but I looked there to see if I could find John, Mary, or Edna Marguerite (4 year old who died) Hermansdoerfer. --- On Sun, 2/27/11, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 5:10 PM Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or > direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was > hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a > 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family > but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The > name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not > find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost > in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have > never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or > suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these > other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from > Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. > John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 > sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With > such an uncommon last name, it > seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go > from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 7, 1936 friday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4qUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3748%2C1781516 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) Obituary Notes Page 4 WOODINGS, Jane Ann 69 yo Conneaut Lake, PA 1936-8-5 LYNN, Emma nee Keiser 79 yo Albertice St. 1936-8-4 TOBIN, Agnes nee O'Callaghan Sherrod St. 1936-8-5 LOUGHRY, Agnes Jane nee McCourty 63 yo Northside 1936-8-4 STEWART, Howard George Squirrel Hill 1936-8-6 Death Notices Page 24 ADAMS, Frank L. Springfield, MA 1936-8-6 ALEXANDER, Katherine nee McPherson Edgeworth 1936-8-6 BURLEIGH, Clarence Squirrel Hill 1936-8-3 CORBETT, F. R. Miami, FL 1936-8-4 GASPER, Mary C. nee Pascale Fram St. 1936-8-5 DILLON, James K. 76 yo Cleveland, OH 1936-8-5 KEPPEL, Agnes S. East End 1936-8-5 KYLE, Robert Johnstown, PA 1936-8-6 PATTERSON, Andrew L. 1936-8-6 SALZMANN, Olive nee Huseman 1936-8-5 SCHEIDEL, George W. 73 yo Warner St. 1936-8-5 SCHUSLER, Peter J. Los Angeles, CA 1936-8-3 SHELEST, Harry 1936-8-6 STEWART, Howard George Squirrel Hill 1936-8-6 TOBIN, Agnes nee O'Callaghan Sherrod St. 1936-8-5 WHITFIELD, Eleanor May 10 yo Wilkinsburg 1936-8-6 WOODINGS, Jane Ann 69 yo Conneaut Lake, PA 1936-8-5 Bob

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 6, 1936 thursday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4aUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5935%2C2024604 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) Obituary Notes Page 22 RIPPY, Eliza Ann 98 yo Allison Park No Death Date MILLER, Wesley Wade 70 yo Mt. Lebanon 1936-8-4 DAVISON, Harry Leroy 35 yo Unity, PA 1936-8-3 Death Notices Page 22 BRYEN, George J. Sr. 79 yo Duquesne 1936-8-4 BURLEIGH, Clarence Squirrel Hill 1936-8-3 CONBERIATI, Selma M. nee Quel 38 yo 1936-8-4 FINEGAN, Alice Brashear Christy 52 yo Conway, PA 1936-8-5 KEPPEL, Agnes S. East End 1936-8-5 KREBS, Mrs. Walter A. Petoskey, MI No Death Date LEHMAN, Irvin Frank Hartford, CT 1936-8-5 LOUGHRY, Agnes Jane nee McCourty Northside 1936-8-4 MILLER, Wesley Wade Mt. Lebanon 1936-8-4 MORGAN, Clarkson J. 27 yo 1936-8-4 ORSCHELL, Joseph Peter Coraopolis 1936-8-3 OTTE, Gustav R. 50 yo Carrick 1936-8-4 SCHEIDEL, George W. 73 yo Warner St. 1936-8-5 SCHMIDT, Anna E. nee Rose McKeesport 1936-8-4 WELSH, Rose Ann nee Conley 1936-8-4 WITTERS, John Frederick Swissvale 1936-8-4 Bob

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 5, 1936 wednesday http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4KUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5081%2C2248579 (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) Death Notices Page 22 ATKINS, Katherine nee Giering Northeast, PA 1936-8-2 ANGEL, Mary Anna nee Christ 80 yo South Winebiddle Ave. No Death Date BOTH, Margaret nee Schotte Davos, Switzerland 1936-8-3 BRYEN, George J. Sr. 79 yo Duquesne 1936-8-4 COOK, Arthur East McKeesport 1936-8-4 CONBERIATI, Selma M. nee Quel 38 yo 1936-8-4 CRAIG, J. Elmer Verona 1936-8-3 DAVISON, Harry Leroy 1936-8-3 DURHAM, Richard 1936-8-3 FISHER, Herbert Thomas Cedar Ave. 1936-8-2 GLEW, Margaret nee Harbison East End 1936-8-3 GOWER, Bertha B. 49 yo Squirrel Hill 1936-8-4 McMURRAY, Charles Frederick Atlantic City, NJ 1936-8-3 MILLER, Wesley Wade Mt. Lebanon 1936-8-4 MUELLER, Eleanor nee Niederst 1936-8-2 OTTE, Gustav R. 50 yo Carrick 1936-8-4 REICOFF, Ernest Henry Crafton Heights 1936-8-3 RODGERS, Margaret M. nee Gower East End 1936-8-3 STORY, Tirzah 1936-8-4 Bob

Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it > seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Greetings: Have you considered looking for a marriage record of that name and see what you learn from that. JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Passman" <sandypassman@yahoo.com> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: [ALL] Advise please Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know that my family would not be on the 1880 census - but I looked there to see if I could find John, Mary, or Edna Marguerite (4 year old who died) Hermansdoerfer.  --- On Sun, 2/27/11, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Advise please To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 5:10 PM Sandy: If they didn't come to the US until 1885 they wouldn't be on the 1880 census. Larry On 2/27/2011 4:48 PM, Sandy Passman wrote: > Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. > While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common  - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it >   seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers - I am hoping that someone can offer advise, information, or direction. While looking over the deaths that y'all have been collecting, I was hoping to see my great grandfather's name. Instead, I found the death of a 4 year old, who has the same last name. I know nothing about this family but it seems there is a good chance they are related to my family. The name is not common  - Hermansdoerfer. I have looked on Ancestry, but do not find the family in the 1880 census, and most of the 1890 census was lost in a fire. I have asked my mother, aunt, and their cousins and they have never heard of these people. Would anyone have any more ideas or suggestions of places to search to figure out if there is a link to these other Hermansdoerfer's? My greatgrandfather arrived in the US in 1885 from Bavaria and owned a butcher shop on Spring Garden Avenue, attended St. John's Lutheran Church, and is buried in St. John's Cemetery. He had 3 sisters and 1 brother (who never came to the US) as far as I know.With such an uncommon last name, it seems that there must be a relationship, but I don't know where else to go from here. Thanks in advance.Sandy Passman     

Anyone know anything about Episcopal Church archived records for Butler Co., PA, between 1830 and 1840? I am searching for christenings for Ellen B. Carson and her sister Ann Virginia Carson, years of birth 1831 and 1837. This information taken from death notices that state they were born in Butler Co., PA. I actually have a date of marriage for their parents, James Carson and Mary Geer, 18 Dec 1828, Trinity Episcopal Cathedral, Pittsburgh. Cemetery records for James and Mary say they were from Cumberland Co. PA. Family is back in Pittsburgh c. 1847 and on, as per censuses and Harris City directories. Does the LDS/FHC in Cranberry have film or fiche for Episcopal churches on their premises? Might John Canning have further details about this subject? Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marybeth acmbjc@aol.com

Greetings: Marriage records for Allegheny County begin in 1885. Prior to that, you may find the information available at the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh PA Department. Here are the links and they charge $ 10 for a search. Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh, PA Department, has extensive research material: http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/ The microfilm collection includes: Pittsburgh Newspapers PA Federal Census 1790-1930 Pittsburgh Telephone Directories 1880-2002 Allegheny City/Pittsburgh City Directories 1813-1975 Index of Marriage Notices 1786-1910 Death Notices 1786-1913 and 1963 to date Pittsburgh & Allegheny County Births & Deaths 1870-1905 Request form: http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/ResearchRequestForm.pdf JR Jamieson jr@jjamieson.com 412 343 9264 Home of the Steeler Nation ----- Original Message ----- From: "smh" <sheatherington@comcast.net> To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: [ALL] Stech marriage c. 1872-75 > I'm looking for information about my gr-gr-grandmother. Her name > is Mary and she was the wife of George Stech. On the 1870 census > of Pittsburgh's 12th Ward, George and Mary are both listed as > having been born in PA. George's line (6) reveals that both his > parents are of foreign birth, but not Mary's. I'm hopeful that if > I can find a marriage record for this couple and get Mary's maiden > name, I may find my next set of ancestors. Can someone advise me > about this? Thank you very much! > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you very much -- I'll try that. Might even make a jaunt into Oakland, as it's always fun to go to the Carnegie. On Thu Feb 24 15:47:02 CST 2011, JR Jamieson <jr@jjamieson.com> wrote: > > Greetings: > > Marriage records for Allegheny County begin in 1885. Prior to > that, you may find the information available at the Carnegie > Library of Pittsburgh PA Department. Here are the links and they > charge $ 10 for a search. > > Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh, PA Department, has extensive > research material: > > http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/ > > > > The microfilm collection includes: > > Pittsburgh Newspapers > > PA Federal Census 1790-1930 > > Pittsburgh Telephone Directories 1880-2002 > > Allegheny City/Pittsburgh City Directories 1813-1975 > > Index of Marriage Notices 1786-1910 > > Death Notices 1786-1913 and 1963 to date > > Pittsburgh & Allegheny County Births & Deaths 1870-1905 > > > > Request form: > > http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/ResearchRequestForm.pdf > > > JR Jamieson > jr@jjamieson.com > > 412 343 9264 > > Home of the Steeler Nation > ----- Original Message ----- From: "smh" > <sheatherington@comcast.net> > To: <paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:20 PM > Subject: [ALL] Stech marriage c. 1872-75 > > >> I'm looking for information about my gr-gr-grandmother. Her name >> is Mary and she was the wife of George Stech. On the 1870 census >> of Pittsburgh's 12th Ward, George and Mary are both listed as >> having been born in PA. George's line (6) reveals that both his >> parents are of foreign birth, but not Mary's. I'm hopeful that >> if >> I can find a marriage record for this couple and get Mary's >> maiden >> name, I may find my next set of ancestors. Can someone advise me >> about this? Thank you very much! >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I'm looking for information about my gr-gr-grandmother. Her name is Mary and she was the wife of George Stech. On the 1870 census of Pittsburgh's 12th Ward, George and Mary are both listed as having been born in PA. George's line (6) reveals that both his parents are of foreign birth, but not Mary's. I'm hopeful that if I can find a marriage record for this couple and get Mary's maiden name, I may find my next set of ancestors. Can someone advise me about this? Thank you very much!

Hi Al - I have corresponded with you several times over the years. We share a mixed bag of German/Swiss/Irish ancestry! It is the German/Swiss side of interest to me today. My Swiss surname has morphed, over the generations, from Haussli to Heasley. My son is now interested in the original spelling and pronunciation of Haussli. I thought that you might be able to suggest how I can best help him with the search. I will appreciate anything that you can suggest!! Thanks Jack Heasley jackare@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:00 AM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: PAALLEGH Digest, Vol 6, Issue 69 PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE WHEN REPLYING TO THE DIGEST. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Allegheny City 4th ward Presbyterian Churches (carol battin) 2. Allegheny City Churches (Norm) 3. Church in Agh City 1890 (Ken Dess) 4. death at J. Edgar Thompson steel works Aug 1897 (acmbjc@aol.com) 5. Re: death at J. Edgar Thompson steel works Aug 1897 (Carol Harris) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:27:10 -0500 From: carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net> Subject: Re: [ALL] Allegheny City 4th ward Presbyterian Churches To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTi=i5O5SHEHtTO1f8Rns7RyupcAZh9NcQWoCgZ3-@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you, John, for telling about the Presbyterian Churches in Allegheny City. Very interesting... Is anyone searching the congregations of the 1st, 2nd, and 2nd-5th Presbyterian Churches in A.C.? I found some of my 2nd Presby.ancestors in the records at the U.P. Historical Society in Philadelphia. At the time, I didn't realize the possibility of finding them in the 1st and 2nd-5th membership rolls. It appears that my gg grandmother and several of her children joined the 2nd after her husband died. I am wondering if they had been members of the 1st prior to that. I also wasn't aware of the Presby churches in Lower Lawrenceville. I had checked the records for the ones near the main area but had no luck. I do have a marriage certificate signed by Richard Lea but didn't find the couple in the records for his church. They would have lived in the Penn Ave and Minersville area of Lawrenceville. Does anyone have information concerning any of these churches? My families who would have attended the Allegheny City churches were the Stewart's, and Hastings'. They lived in the 2nd and 3rd wards. In the Minersville area, their surnames were Roy, Warren, and Tencate. Thanks, 'Genie On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, John Canning <johnjcanning@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Larry, > The 4th ward was the section of Allegheny between East Ohio, (N), the > Allegheny R (S), Federal Street W), and East Street (E). Depending the on > the years, there were several "kinds" of presbyterian churches there. > Before > the Civil War there were 2 Reformed Presbyterian congregations, and one > major Presbyterian congregation. The later was known as the Central > Presbyterian Church @ Sandusky and Lacock. It had a big split during the > Civil War and then eventually joined with the First Presbyterian Church, > which was in Ward 2. There was also a big United Presbyterian congregation > (Second U.P.)2 Sandusky and Stockton. By the late 19th century the > reformed > congregations moved up from the "flod plain." If you are looking for a > specific congrgation of size, I would think either the 2nd UP or the > Central > Pres. church would fit that bill. By the time Allegheny and Pgh merged > there > were almost 30 presbyterian churches of various persuasions, along with 3 > seminaries, in Allegheny City.! > > > > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:35:51 -0500 > > From: lt0168@epix.net > > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ALL] Allegheny City 4th ward Presbyterian Churches > > > > Hi group: > > Can anyone tell me what Presbyterian Church somebody living in the 4th > > ward of Allegheny City might have used in the 1860 time frame? > > > > Larry > > -- > > My genealogy page > > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > > Allegheny County Maps page > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:53:38 -0500 From: Norm <normmeinert@verizon.net> Subject: [ALL] Allegheny City Churches To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D596C22.6080104@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just FYI, I'm currently building a webpage for a translation of a church bulletin from the First Evangelical Protestant Church, Manchester, Allegheny, PA dated 20 September, 1896 which was submitted by Mary Neff Hurst this past week. Should be ready in a day or so. Norm ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:07:15 -0500 From: Ken Dess <kendess@comcast.net> Subject: [ALL] Church in Agh City 1890 To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D597D63.8050104@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Would anyone know the name or names of Evangelical German Churches in Allegheny City, North Hills, in 1890. My g grandmother lived on Perry St. and was buried at Allegheny Cemetery. I'd like to see if I can find any church record of her. Thanks, Mary ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:02:36 -0500 (EST) From: acmbjc@aol.com Subject: [ALL] death at J. Edgar Thompson steel works Aug 1897 To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CD9ACB8D484AE0-828-1F1B6@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Listers: I am helping a cousin find a death notice, obit, or story about an explosion at the J. Edgar Thompson steel works in Braddock, PA. Date of the accident is believed to be 13 Aug 1897. His grandfather's name was John Gordon. I have searched the Pittsburgh Press editions of the 14, 15, and 16 Aug 1897, but am unable to find anything about this accident, or the death of this person. Am hoping someone can help with this one. Many thanks. Marybeth C. acmbjc@aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:57:44 -0500 (EST) From: Carol Harris <charris721@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] death at J. Edgar Thompson steel works Aug 1897 To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CD9AD340BE973F-1734-5921@webmail-d089.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Would this be what you are looking for? Just did a search on Edgar Thompson Explosion. Carol Braddock, Pennsylvania Edgar Thompson Steel Works Explosion August 23, 1895 FIRE ENVELOPED THEM. Workmen Killed by an Explosion in a Steel Works. CAUSED BY CARELESSNESS. A Furnace at the Thompson Works in Braddock, Penn., Was Choked and Sixteen Men Were Engulfed in Flames of Exploding Gas ? A Volcanic Eruption of Liquid Metal. The fall of a ?hang? in the top of furnace H of the Edgar Thompson Steel Works at Braddock, Penn., caused an explosion which resulted in the death of eight men. Eight other men received burns, and some of them were fatally injured. The killed are: JOHN GRENGO, JOSEPH LUCKNI, forty-five years old, married; JOHN PROKOPOVIC, twenty-seven, married; STEPHEN HAVLIN, thirty-two; JOHN MIKA, twenty-eight, married; JOSEPH CSOP, thirty-one; ANDREW DROBUAH, thirty-five, married; MIKE KAFINES, twenty-six, married. The last two men died after being taken to the hospital. The explosion occurred at 5 o'clock a. m., when preparations were being made for the morning melt. The force of the rush of expanding gas was terrific, and frightened the entire town of Braddock. Hundreds of half clad men, women and children flocked to the mill to inquire the cause of the noise and the result. The majority were Hungarian and Polish women who live near the mill, and had husbands and brothers working at the furnaces. They crowded into the yards over railroad tracks which form a network about the row of furnaces and could not be forced back. They swarmed through the stock sheds, and soon the air was filled with dries and groans as the bodies were picked up and recognized. The carelessness or ignorance of one of the top fillers, all of whom are Hungarians, caused the accident. The refuse material which forms a ?hang? had been allowed to accumulate until its size obstructed the free passage of the gases generated in the melting of ore. One of the top fillers dumped a barrow full of stock into the furnace without raising the boil, and this obstructed the opening still more. The top of the furnace was practically closed, and a force of men was sent there at once to remove the material which closed up the top. While the men were trying to accomplish this working directly over the top of the furnace, the ?hang? dropped into the molten metal at the bottom of the furnace. At the same instant the gases, which could not escape because of the obstruction at the top, took fire and exploded with a deafening roar, the sheet of flame belched out the top of the furnace, striking the men who were scattered all about it, blowing them in various directions. The materials loosened at the sides of the furnace by the fall of the ?hang? and the explosion followed the rush of flame. The debris dropped back upon the men, already frightfully burned by the gas. One man was blown over one of the elevators and dropped down through it. His body struck a car standing at the bottom and was cut in two. Other men were burned beyond recognition, and were identified by clothing or physical peculiarities. Only one man, was killed instantly, but the others in the list of dead died while being taken to the shed. The position of the men while working at the top of the furnace was such that they had no chance to escape. The iron covering at the extreme top checked the flames enough to drive them back down, thus enveloping the men completely. After the first rush the flames poured out of the opening steadily, and it was a hazardous task for the rescuers to go up and bring the bodies down. All the injured, except JAMES HARRISON, the foreman, were Hungarians. The Cranbury Press New Jersey 1895-08-23 Submitted & transcribed by Stu Beitler Thank you, Stu! -----Original Message----- From: acmbjc <acmbjc@aol.com> To: paallegh <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 14, 2011 9:04 pm Subject: [ALL] death at J. Edgar Thompson steel works Aug 1897 isters: am helping a cousin find a death notice, obit, or story about an explosion at he J. Edgar Thompson steel works in Braddock, PA. Date of the accident is elieved to be 13 Aug 1897. His grandfather's name was John Gordon. have searched the Pittsburgh Press editions of the 14, 15, and 16 Aug 1897, ut am unable to find anything about this accident, or the death of this person. m hoping someone can help with this one. any thanks. Marybeth C. cmbjc@aol.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ To contact the PAALLEGH list administrator, send an email to PAALLEGH-admin@rootsweb.com. 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