http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030511&printsec=frontpage Died Page 11 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Algeo, Sarah E., West Liberty Borough, 5/10/1903 Copperstone, Bella Hughes, Idlewood Pa., 5/10/1903 Endres, John G., Pittsburgh, 5/11/1903 Foster, Hannah Black, Erie Pa., 5/11/1903 Fierle, Mary A., 34, Allegheny City, 5/8/1903 Johns, Margaret Geiger, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Kleb, Henry, 19yrs 10mo 12dys, Allegheny City, 5/10/1903 Lowrie, Clason R., Allegheny City, 5/10/1903 McCarthy, Thomas Joseph, 1mo., Pittsburgh, 5/11/1903 Meehen, James, 28, Pittsburgh, 5/10/1903 Sweeney, Ellen, Allegheny City, 5/9/1903 Usselman, Margaret, 4yrs 1mo, Pittsburgh, 5/10/1903 Williams, John, 47, Pittsburgh, 5/11/1903 Walsh, John E., 41, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030510&printsec=frontpage Died Page 26 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Aikin, Robert, 21, Reserve Twp., 5/8/1903 Duffy, Patrick, Carnegie, 5/8/1903 Dietrich, Anna M., 53, Allegheny City, 5/9/1903 Fierle, Mary A., 34, Allegheny City, 5/8/1903 Flynn, Elmira Beatrice, 1yr 6mo 21dys, Esplen Borough, 5/8/1903 Fraser, Charles, 32, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Holmes, Jane, 80, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Keim, Lida H., Porter, 46, Shousetown Pa., 5/8/1903 Neal, Emma M., 41, Wilmerding Pa., 5/7/1903 O'Shea, Alice, 20, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Roach, Harry H., 7, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Smith, Mary Alice, 3mo 21dys, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Steimbaugh, Gottlieb, 63, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Stevenson, Alfred C., 31, Carnegie, 5/8/1903 Taylor, George Hirst, 70yrs 6mo 1dy., Allegheny City, 5/9/1903 Wilson, William J., 55, Elliot Borough, 5/9/1903 Walsh, John E., 41, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Obituaries Forsythe, Sarah, 24, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Bethune, Simon, 52, Turtle Creek Pa., 5/9/1903 Wallace, Thomas C., 38, Greely Col., Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Carol: You can go to your local library that does inter-library loan and see if that film is on the list of those available, but the State Library does do inter-library. If it's available the price is nominal. Larry On 3/19/2011 8:09 PM, carol battin wrote: > Larry, > > This is the source listed at the PA Archives in Harrisburg. > Can a copy be ordered from there? I have never tried to > order anything from Harrisburg or NARA. I find both web sites confusing > concerning prices and ordering. Since I > don't see myself traveling to either location soon, I would > appreciate you or anyone else filling me in on the ordering > process. > > Thanks, Carol > > Roll 8: 1880 Mortality: Adams-Centre (part) counties > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Larry Thompson<lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > >> Also, you can browse this record set on Ancestry, but NOT for PA. >> >> Larry >> >> On 3/19/2011 1:43 PM, Larry Thompson wrote: >>> Hi group: >>> According to their web site the State Library in Harrisburg has this >>> schedule. >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> On 3/19/2011 1:22 PM, Mary Frances wrote: >>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, burnecke<burnecke@verizon.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent >>>>> classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Too many years have passed for me to remember answer to your question, >> but >>>> this will work: Google the Archives nearest you or the NARA in DC and >> search >>>> for the 1880 and go from there. >>>> >>>> Mary Frances >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> My genealogy page >> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >> Allegheny County Maps page >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Larry, This is the source listed at the PA Archives in Harrisburg. Can a copy be ordered from there? I have never tried to order anything from Harrisburg or NARA. I find both web sites confusing concerning prices and ordering. Since I don't see myself traveling to either location soon, I would appreciate you or anyone else filling me in on the ordering process. Thanks, Carol Roll 8: 1880 Mortality: Adams-Centre (part) counties On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > Also, you can browse this record set on Ancestry, but NOT for PA. > > Larry > > On 3/19/2011 1:43 PM, Larry Thompson wrote: > > Hi group: > > According to their web site the State Library in Harrisburg has this > > schedule. > > > > Larry > > > > On 3/19/2011 1:22 PM, Mary Frances wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, burnecke<burnecke@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> > >>> I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent > >>> classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? > >>> > >> > >> Too many years have passed for me to remember answer to your question, > but > >> this will work: Google the Archives nearest you or the NARA in DC and > search > >> for the 1880 and go from there. > >> > >> Mary Frances > >> > >>> > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>> > >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Their surname was *Tencate.* They were enumerated in the 1880 census for Allegheny City, PA. The name was often misspelled in records but is listed correctly in this census. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Virginia Patricelli <virgpat@usfamily.net>wrote: > Carol, what was the last name of the children? > > Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of carol battin > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:01 PM > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ALL] 1880 Schedules of Defective, Dependent,and Delinquent > Classes > > > Mary Frances, > > Thank you so much for your reply. > > My grandfather and siblings were placed in the Presbyterian Home for > Destitute Children in Allegheny City prior to 1880. Their father died in > 1875. Their mother > delivered her youngest child after the father's death. The little girl was > in the orphanage at a very young age. One > of the sons died there. The children are listed in the 1880 census but I > have not been able to find their mother. She is listed several years after > in the city directory as a widow. I am interested in finding out where she > was and why she was not with the children. > > This schedule could answer my questions concerning > this family. As far as I can tell, it is not readily available. The LDS > Library does not list the Pennsylvania copy. Do you know if NARA could send > a microfiche copy to me? > > I would appreciate your opinion concerning whether this > non-population census would be of help to me. > > Carol > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Mary Frances > <westhistorian@gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net > > >wrote: > > > > > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though > not > > > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > > > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > > > National Archives. > > > > > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head > > count" > > > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source > > might > > > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > Carol in WV > > > > > > > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied > > this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family > > research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible > avenues > > for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that > > previously no one of the elders had heard of. > > So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its > title, > > of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There > is > > much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, > etc. > > > > It is not a mortality schedule. > > > > When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health > > (loosely termed) issue. > > > > If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although > it > > was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. > > > > Mary Frances > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sent to your email. Bob ________________________________ From: Beverly Morris <bevart@frontiernet.net> To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 10:04:25 PM Subject: Re: [ALL] Indexing Pittsburgh Press May 10, 1903 -- Lida H. (Porter) Keim Hello Larry, et al: Thanks so much, Larry for doing all this indexing. Would you or someone else help me to obtain the article for Lida H. (Porter) Keim listed below? I tried and the page was too small to read. I couldn't find a way to enlarge it. Thanks! ~Blessings, Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Thompson" <lt0168@epix.net> To: "Allegheny Mailing list" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: [ALL] Indexing Pittsburgh Press May 10, 1903 >http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030510&printsec=frontpage >e > > Died > Page 26 > > Keim, Lida H., Porter, 46, Shousetown Pa., 5/8/1903 >. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Larry, et al: Thanks so much, Larry for doing all this indexing. Would you or someone else help me to obtain the article for Lida H. (Porter) Keim listed below? I tried and the page was too small to read. I couldn't find a way to enlarge it. Thanks! ~Blessings, Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Thompson" <lt0168@epix.net> To: "Allegheny Mailing list" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: [ALL] Indexing Pittsburgh Press May 10, 1903 > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030510&printsec=frontpage > > Died > Page 26 > > Keim, Lida H., Porter, 46, Shousetown Pa., 5/8/1903 >.

Also, you can browse this record set on Ancestry, but NOT for PA. Larry On 3/19/2011 1:43 PM, Larry Thompson wrote: > Hi group: > According to their web site the State Library in Harrisburg has this > schedule. > > Larry > > On 3/19/2011 1:22 PM, Mary Frances wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, burnecke<burnecke@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent >>> classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? >>> >> >> Too many years have passed for me to remember answer to your question, but >> this will work: Google the Archives nearest you or the NARA in DC and search >> for the 1880 and go from there. >> >> Mary Frances >> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > Mary Frances, > > Thank you so much for your reply. > I would appreciate your opinion concerning whether this > non-population census would be of help to me. > > Carol > Carol, due to your time frame of interest, I am not sure----don't recall the time frame covered by that 1880 DDD census; however, I would strongly suggest you check out the census description on the NARA (or Archives closer to you). That way both questions will be answered: time frame covered by that census as well as locating copies of that census. NARA used to have a procedure by which one could rent census films and read them at home/local college/local LDS Library, etc. Were I to _hazard_ a guess: I would give that census a try. Good hunting. Mary Frances > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Mary Frances <westhistorian@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net > > >wrote: > > > > > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though > not > > > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > > > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > > > National Archives. > > > > > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head > > count" > > > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source > > might > > > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > Carol in WV > > > > > > > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied > > this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family > > research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible > avenues > > for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that > > previously no one of the elders had heard of. > > So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its > title, > > of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There > is > > much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, > etc. > > > > It is not a mortality schedule. > > > > When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health > > (loosely termed) issue. > > > > If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although > it > > was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. > > > > Mary Frances > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi group: According to their web site the State Library in Harrisburg has this schedule. Larry On 3/19/2011 1:22 PM, Mary Frances wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, burnecke<burnecke@verizon.net> wrote: > >> I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent >> classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? >> > > Too many years have passed for me to remember answer to your question, but > this will work: Google the Archives nearest you or the NARA in DC and search > for the 1880 and go from there. > > Mary Frances > >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Carol, what was the last name of the children? Virginia -----Original Message----- From: paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paallegh-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of carol battin Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:01 PM To: paallegh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALL] 1880 Schedules of Defective, Dependent,and Delinquent Classes Mary Frances, Thank you so much for your reply. My grandfather and siblings were placed in the Presbyterian Home for Destitute Children in Allegheny City prior to 1880. Their father died in 1875. Their mother delivered her youngest child after the father's death. The little girl was in the orphanage at a very young age. One of the sons died there. The children are listed in the 1880 census but I have not been able to find their mother. She is listed several years after in the city directory as a widow. I am interested in finding out where she was and why she was not with the children. This schedule could answer my questions concerning this family. As far as I can tell, it is not readily available. The LDS Library does not list the Pennsylvania copy. Do you know if NARA could send a microfiche copy to me? I would appreciate your opinion concerning whether this non-population census would be of help to me. Carol On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Mary Frances <westhistorian@gmail.com>wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net > >wrote: > > > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not > > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > > National Archives. > > > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head > count" > > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source > might > > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Carol in WV > > > > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied > this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family > research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible avenues > for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that > previously no one of the elders had heard of. > So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its title, > of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There is > much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, etc. > > It is not a mortality schedule. > > When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health > (loosely termed) issue. > > If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although it > was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. > > Mary Frances > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM, burnecke <burnecke@verizon.net> wrote: > I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent > classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? > Too many years have passed for me to remember answer to your question, but this will work: Google the Archives nearest you or the NARA in DC and search for the 1880 and go from there. Mary Frances > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:29 AM, annie <1anniesquest4me@bellsouth.net>wrote: > Do you know if these are at National Archives in Atlanta? > > annie > Annie, regrettably, I do not, but google that Archives and when on the site, search online for the census. There used to be a whole site within the Archives site, devoted to census. Mary Frances > > On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:52 AM, burnecke wrote: > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary Frances, Thank you so much for your reply. My grandfather and siblings were placed in the Presbyterian Home for Destitute Children in Allegheny City prior to 1880. Their father died in 1875. Their mother delivered her youngest child after the father's death. The little girl was in the orphanage at a very young age. One of the sons died there. The children are listed in the 1880 census but I have not been able to find their mother. She is listed several years after in the city directory as a widow. I am interested in finding out where she was and why she was not with the children. This schedule could answer my questions concerning this family. As far as I can tell, it is not readily available. The LDS Library does not list the Pennsylvania copy. Do you know if NARA could send a microfiche copy to me? I would appreciate your opinion concerning whether this non-population census would be of help to me. Carol On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Mary Frances <westhistorian@gmail.com>wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net > >wrote: > > > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not > > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > > National Archives. > > > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head > count" > > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source > might > > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Carol in WV > > > > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied > this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family > research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible avenues > for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that > previously no one of the elders had heard of. > So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its title, > of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There is > much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, etc. > > It is not a mortality schedule. > > When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health > (loosely termed) issue. > > If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although it > was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. > > Mary Frances > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do you know if these are at National Archives in Atlanta? annie On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:52 AM, burnecke wrote: > I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent > classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:58:14 -0400 > From: Mary Frances<westhistorian@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ALL] 1880 Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and > Delinquent Classes > To:paallegh@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTingEWL6SzdtOgwmbfjk=cr-XHw=cYNC2O_9JveX@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin<pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > > >>> I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not >>> available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, >>> Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the >>> National Archives. >>> >>> Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head count" >>> or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source might >>> answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. >>> >>> Thanks for any help, >>> Carol in WV >>> > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied > this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family > research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible avenues > for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that > previously no one of the elders had heard of. > So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its title, > of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There is > much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, etc. > > It is not a mortality schedule. > > When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health > (loosely termed) issue. > > If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although it > was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. > > Mary Frances > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm wondering if the schedule of defective, dependent and delinquent classes was done for 1900 too. Does anyone know? Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:58:14 -0400 From: Mary Frances<westhistorian@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] 1880 Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes To:paallegh@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTingEWL6SzdtOgwmbfjk=cr-XHw=cYNC2O_9JveX@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin<pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not > > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > > National Archives. > > > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head count" > > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source might > > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Carol in WV > > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible avenues for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that previously no one of the elders had heard of. So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its title, of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There is much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, etc. It is not a mortality schedule. When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health (loosely termed) issue. If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although it was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. Mary Frances

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, carol battin <pagenie@suddenlink.net>wrote: > I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not > available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, > Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the > National Archives. > > Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head count" > or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source might > answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. > > Thanks for any help, > Carol in WV > Carol, depends on what types of info you seek. Many years ago, I studied this census at NARA and found much of value to me with my own family research. It is important to note that I was searching all possible avenues for explanation of an unusual medical condition found in my family that previously no one of the elders had heard of. So, this 1880 census is filled with information, as is stated in its title, of defective, dependent and delinquent classes (of human beings). There is much information on persons who were ill, blind, deranged, paralyzed, etc. It is not a mortality schedule. When known, parents and residences are named/identified as is the health (loosely termed) issue. If you have more questions, please ask and I will try to answer although it was many years ago when I studied these types of census rolls. Mary Frances > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob The Leslie Johnson in the death notice is the one for whom I have been searching for years. Thanks so much. I appreciate your hard work. Loretta J > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:11:09 -0700 > From: bobandee@yahoo.com > To: PAALLEGH@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALL] INDEXING Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 13, 1936 > > > Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Aug 13, 1936 thursday > http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5qUpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h2kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4680%2C677333 > > > (LAST-First-Maiden-Age-Location-Date of Death) > Obituary Notes Page 22 > QUINN, John J. 73 yo Fleming St. 1936-8-10 > HOWDER, Captain George L. 90 yo Middleport, OH 1936-8-12 > > Death Notices Page 22 > BAILEY, Robert Dalzell New Brighton 1936-8-10 > DALTON, Patrick J. Churchland St. No Death Date > DUNN, Thomas A. Aliquippa St. 1936-8-10 > FRENCHOK, Rose 70 yo Hays, PA 1936-8-10 > GIBSON, William R. 67 yo Homewood 1936-8-12 > HOFFMAN, Agnes nee Smith 1936-8-11 > HOERR, Harry Ahlborn 1936-8-12 > JACOB, Kate Collier Twp. 1936-8-12 > JOHNSON, Leslie J. Wilkinsburg 1936-8-12 > MORRISON, Elizabeth nee Deegan Louisville, KY 1936-8-11 > POWERS, Minnie nee Baker 1936-8-11 > REIHING, Iva nee Vensel Long Beach, CA 1936-8-8 > RITTER, Carla nee Alys 1936-8-12 > WILSON, William 1936-8-12 > > Bob > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just noticed the above item listed at Ancestry.com. Though not available to search there, it is listed as *Roll 10: 1880 Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes: Adams and Allegheny counties *at the National Archives. Has anyone ever seen this census? Is this schedule just a "head count" or does it contain specific information for individuals? This source might answer some questions I have had concerning one of my families. Thanks for any help, Carol in WV

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030509&printsec=frontpage Died Page 11 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Aikin, Robert O., 21, Reserve Twp., 5/8/1903 Cahill, Mary J., 64, Allegheny City, 5/8/1903 Duffy, Patrick, Carnegie, 5/8/1903 Ebert, Lawrence W., 55, Toledo Ohio, 5/7/1903 Fierle, Mary A., 34, Allegheny City, 5/8/1903 Flynn, Elmira Beatrice, 1yr 6mo 21dys, Esplen Borough, 5/8/1903 Fraser, Charles, 32, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Gruber, Lorretta May, 2yrs 8mo., Allegheny City, 5/8/1903 Holmes, Jane, 80, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 McCann, Dr. Thomas, 40, Pittsburgh, 5/9/1903 Neal, Emma M., 41, Wilmerding Pa., 5/7/1903 O'Shea, Alice, 20, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Smith, Mary Alice, 3mo 21dys, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Stevenson, Alfred C., 31, Carnegie, 5/8/1903 Witherspoon, William, 50yrs 10mo 18dys, Pittsburgh, 5/8/1903 Weil, Charlotte E., Armstrong, 22, Montooth Borough, 5/8/1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/