Cari: From the information you provided the boys would have all probably been over 21 when the father got naturalized, therefore not covered. Larry On 5/9/2011 9:23 PM, Carolyn J Thomas wrote: > From: CJ Sperl<cjsperl@gmail.com> > Subject: [ALL] Naturalization > To: paallegh@rootsweb.com >> What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. My mother > and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. I have found my > grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later date, but I have found > no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my grandfather¹s it does not say > anything about my mother. > > Hi Claudia, > > Age of children, and year of immigration are necessary information to answer > your question. > > I know that Larry¹s answer is misleading. My FISCHER family immigrated in > 1891: mother, three sons [19, 18, 16] and daughter [9]. My great-grandfather > immigrated in 1882. All three male ³children² went on to become naturalized, > as well as their father, in an Western District of Pennsylvania District > Court [ie Federal] in Pittsburgh: >> The 16-yo immigrant Hugo Fischer became naturalized 24 Oct 1896. >> The 18-yo immigrant William H. Fischer became naturalized 7 Sep 1896. >> The 19-yo immigrant August Fischer became naturalized 15 Jan 1897. >> Father, immigrant Herman Clemens Fischer naturalized 23 Sep 1895. > > Great-grandmother Augustina Fischer [Out of 696 passengers onboard the SS > Switzerland, one of just four who gave ³ad² [adult] for her age on the > passenger list) was NOT noted in either of her census appearances: > 1900/1910, with any naturalization information. > > In the only census Catharina Fischer Weber appeared, at 19 yo, there was no > indication of naturalization, only immig year and years in US. However, she > had been a minor child at immigration; and by 1900 was married to a > naturalized immigrant, Theodore Weber. Thus a naturalized citizen, by > derivation, twice over! > > Here¹s a very nice summary of historic USA Naturalization laws through the > years, from the Genealogy Collection, Archives and Public Records, of > Arizona State Library, dated 10 May 2007: > http://www.lib.az.us/is/genealogy/handouts/documents/Naturalization.pdf > > And from that summary - Highlights re: ³children²: > >> 1795: Act provided derivative citizenship for wives and MINOR children. >> >> 1804: Act provided citizenship to widows and children of an alien who died >> before filing his final papers. >> >> 1906: Before 1906 biographical data on children and spouses rarely existed in >> declarations and petitions because they automatically received citizenship by >> derivitive citizenship from father and husband. After 27 Sep 1906, it became >> mandatory to include the names, ages, birth date and place, marriage date and >> place, and names of minor children, their birth dates and places and >> residences. [AND this regulation says there SHOULD be information somewhere >> out there about your mother as a minor child in 1926!] >> >> 1922: Besides citizenship being entitled for women 21 and over, derivative >> citizenship was discontinued. [I don¹t know and this doesn¹t say anything >> specific to minor children.] > > Hope this provides some more information of value....... > > Cari Thomas > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Bill: You're asking about a very complicated subject. I AM NOT a lawyer, but my opinion and understanding is as follows. Before the 1976 revision a copyright was for 28 years, but to be copyrighted it had to show it was copyrighted, at least with a copyright mark. Copyright could be renewed for an additional 28 years, but I doubt any photographer would go through the expense of renewing copyright on their whole collection. So, I think that any photo done before about 1948 would probably be safe to use. One caveat, if the photo was printed in a book or magazine, then there is a possibility that copyright may have been renewed. Hope this helps. Larry On 5/9/2011 9:07 PM, c. william johnson jr wrote: > I joined ancestry.com and I was wanting to upload some photographs some of them were professionally done; some back in the 1920s and before; some in the 40s, 50s and 60s etc.. > > What is the rule for how old a photograph can be before you can consider it would be in public domain? How about those Photography studios that are no longer in business? > > I have a picture of my father-in-law in military uniform from WWII, a professional picture. Is that prohibited from sharing because of copyright? > > I couldn't find any info on when the photo becomes public domain. > > Bill Johnson > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

the government site covers any questions - heavy reading. Ruth http://www.archives.gov/research/naturalization/index.html

Ruth: The statute I read indicated that the children being naturalized with the parents was at the very beginning, and I didn't notice any changes. Larry On 5/9/2011 7:44 PM, Ruth Sprowls wrote: > > question: this also depends on the era, as the rules changed over the > years. BUT if the father did not file for naturalization, the the son > as adults would have to naturalize, correct? I have the Sprowls in > Wash. Co. and cannot locate anything showing father John filed, and he > brought his family over abt. 1793 - but from about 1819 to 1821 his 5 > sons filed naturalization - and they were all b. Ireland. > Interesting topic, > Ruth > > >> Claudia: >> The statute I read just stated that children "under 21" >> automatically >> became naturalized when their parents did. >> >> Larry >> >> On 5/9/2011 6:07 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: >>> Larry: >>> >>> Is there any documentation associated with that or did it just >>> happen? >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Larry Thompson<lt0168@epix.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Claudia: >>>> The children of naturalized citizens automatically became >>>> citizens. >>>> >>>> Larry >>>> >>>> On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: >>>>> To all: >>>>> >>>>> What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a >>>>> minor. >>>> My >>>>> mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the >>>>> time. >>>> I >>>>> have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a >>>>> later >>>> date, >>>>> but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my >>>>> grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother >>>>> >>>>> Claudia. >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> My genealogy page >>>> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >>>> Allegheny County Maps page >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> -- >> My genealogy page >> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >> Allegheny County Maps page >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

question: this also depends on the era, as the rules changed over the years. BUT if the father did not file for naturalization, the the son as adults would have to naturalize, correct? I have the Sprowls in Wash. Co. and cannot locate anything showing father John filed, and he brought his family over abt. 1793 - but from about 1819 to 1821 his 5 sons filed naturalization - and they were all b. Ireland. Interesting topic, Ruth > Claudia: > The statute I read just stated that children "under 21" > automatically > became naturalized when their parents did. > > Larry > > On 5/9/2011 6:07 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: >> Larry: >> >> Is there any documentation associated with that or did it just >> happen? >> >> Claudia >> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Larry Thompson<lt0168@epix.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Claudia: >>> The children of naturalized citizens automatically became >>> citizens. >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: >>>> To all: >>>> >>>> What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a >>>> minor. >>> My >>>> mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the >>>> time. >>> I >>>> have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a >>>> later >>> date, >>>> but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my >>>> grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother >>>> >>>> Claudia. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> My genealogy page >>> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >>> Allegheny County Maps page >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I highly recommend you explore the Pitt Archives website, Larry. They've got a huge collection of ethnic churches and also Archives of Industrial [Pittsburgh] Society. Check out their Digital Collections, too! Actually the HISTORICAL PITTSBURGH website is a collaboration between about 4-5 groups including the Pitt Archives. The Darlington Library has a grand bunch of historic Pittsburgh/Allegheny County maps, some really unusual. Photograph collections, postcard collections and much more. Here's the page for their genealogical and family history resources guide: <http://www.library.pitt.edu/libraries/archives/documents/AIS_Family_Researc h_Guide.pdf> Have fun! Cari Ps. I last visited the Pitt archives in person about July 2006; they'd just moved to the new location (well, new....then) at 7500 Thomas Blvd. They were very open and helpful then....and it was air conditioned!!! I note the resource guide does say, " Researchers should contact archives-ref@mail.pitt.edu or telephone 412-244-7091 in advance of any visit to ensure availability of any collection in which they are interested." Cari On 5/9/11 5:17 PM, "Larry Thompson" <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > Cari: > Thank you very much. Would have never thought to search there. > > Larry > > On 5/9/2011 8:08 PM, Carolyn J Thomas wrote: >>> From: Larry Thompson <_lt0168@epix.net_> >>> Subject: [ALL] Grandview Ave Presbyterian Church >>> To: Allegheny Mailing list <_paallegh@rootsweb.com_> >>> Does anybody know where the old records from this church are located? >>> Larry >> >> Larry, >> >> They¹re in the Pitt Archives: >> >> ULS Archives Service Center >> University of Pittsburgh Library System >> 7500 Thomas Boulevard >> Pittsburgh, PA, 15260 >> 412-244-7091 >> archives-ref@mail.pitt.edu >> >> >> Here¹s home page: >> <http://www.library.pitt.edu/libraries/archives/archives.html> and do a >> Collection Guides search for <Grandview> at right middle of page. >> >> 2nd Result out of 4 results: >> >> *Collection Title: **Grandview United Presbyterian Church, Mount >> Washington, Pittsburgh, Pa. Records >> Creator: *Grandview United Presbyterian Church (Pittsburgh, Pa.). >> *Collection dates: *1857-1991 >> *Extent: *6.0 microfilm reels (3647 frames) >> *Abstract: *This collection contains 20 books of records for the >> Grandview United Presbyterian Church (formerly known as the Mount >> Washington Presbyterian Church) for the years 1857-1991. The collection >> includes lists of Pastors, Baptisms, Elders, Deacons, Deaconesses, >> Marriages, Deaths, Communicants, Trustees, and Suspended Members. >> *Search Results: *13 matches in Entire Finding Aid >> search terms in context | standard view | full text File Size: 17 K >> bytes | Add this to my bookbag >> >> Happy Hunting! >> >> Cari Thomas

OK Thanks Larry On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > Claudia: > The statute I read just stated that children "under 21" automatically > became naturalized when their parents did. > > Larry > > On 5/9/2011 6:07 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: > > Larry: > > > > Is there any documentation associated with that or did it just happen? > > > > Claudia > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Larry Thompson<lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > > > >> Claudia: > >> The children of naturalized citizens automatically became citizens. > >> > >> Larry > >> > >> On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: > >>> To all: > >>> > >>> What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. > >> My > >>> mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. > >> I > >>> have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later > >> date, > >>> but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my > >>> grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother > >>> > >>> Claudia. > >>> > >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>> > >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> My genealogy page > >> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > >> Allegheny County Maps page > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

From: CJ Sperl <cjsperl@gmail.com> Subject: [ALL] Naturalization To: paallegh@rootsweb.com >What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. My mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. I have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later date, but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my grandfather¹s it does not say anything about my mother. Hi Claudia, Age of children, and year of immigration are necessary information to answer your question. I know that Larry¹s answer is misleading. My FISCHER family immigrated in 1891: mother, three sons [19, 18, 16] and daughter [9]. My great-grandfather immigrated in 1882. All three male ³children² went on to become naturalized, as well as their father, in an Western District of Pennsylvania District Court [ie Federal] in Pittsburgh: > The 16-yo immigrant Hugo Fischer became naturalized 24 Oct 1896. > The 18-yo immigrant William H. Fischer became naturalized 7 Sep 1896. > The 19-yo immigrant August Fischer became naturalized 15 Jan 1897. > Father, immigrant Herman Clemens Fischer naturalized 23 Sep 1895. Great-grandmother Augustina Fischer [Out of 696 passengers onboard the SS Switzerland, one of just four who gave ³ad² [adult] for her age on the passenger list) was NOT noted in either of her census appearances: 1900/1910, with any naturalization information. In the only census Catharina Fischer Weber appeared, at 19 yo, there was no indication of naturalization, only immig year and years in US. However, she had been a minor child at immigration; and by 1900 was married to a naturalized immigrant, Theodore Weber. Thus a naturalized citizen, by derivation, twice over! Here¹s a very nice summary of historic USA Naturalization laws through the years, from the Genealogy Collection, Archives and Public Records, of Arizona State Library, dated 10 May 2007: http://www.lib.az.us/is/genealogy/handouts/documents/Naturalization.pdf And from that summary - Highlights re: ³children²: > 1795: Act provided derivative citizenship for wives and MINOR children. > > 1804: Act provided citizenship to widows and children of an alien who died > before filing his final papers. > > 1906: Before 1906 biographical data on children and spouses rarely existed in > declarations and petitions because they automatically received citizenship by > derivitive citizenship from father and husband. After 27 Sep 1906, it became > mandatory to include the names, ages, birth date and place, marriage date and > place, and names of minor children, their birth dates and places and > residences. [AND this regulation says there SHOULD be information somewhere > out there about your mother as a minor child in 1926!] > > 1922: Besides citizenship being entitled for women 21 and over, derivative > citizenship was discontinued. [I don¹t know and this doesn¹t say anything > specific to minor children.] Hope this provides some more information of value....... Cari Thomas

Claudia: The statute I read just stated that children "under 21" automatically became naturalized when their parents did. Larry On 5/9/2011 6:07 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: > Larry: > > Is there any documentation associated with that or did it just happen? > > Claudia > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Larry Thompson<lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > >> Claudia: >> The children of naturalized citizens automatically became citizens. >> >> Larry >> >> On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: >>> To all: >>> >>> What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. >> My >>> mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. >> I >>> have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later >> date, >>> but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my >>> grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother >>> >>> Claudia. >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> -- >> My genealogy page >> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >> Allegheny County Maps page >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Larry: Is there any documentation associated with that or did it just happen? Claudia On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> wrote: > Claudia: > The children of naturalized citizens automatically became citizens. > > Larry > > On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: > > To all: > > > > What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. > My > > mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. > I > > have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later > date, > > but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my > > grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother > > > > Claudia. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Claudia: The children of naturalized citizens automatically became citizens. Larry On 5/9/2011 5:32 PM, CJ Sperl wrote: > To all: > > What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. My > mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. I > have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later date, > but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my > grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother > > Claudia. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

To all: What was the procedure for naturalization when the child was a minor. My mother and her parents emigrated in 1926, my mother was 4 at the time. I have found my grandfathers certificate and my grandmothers at a later date, but I have found no paperwork on my mothers citizenship. On my grandfathers it does not say anything about my mother Claudia.

Libby: I searched their online catalog and didn't find anything. Larry On 5/9/2011 4:52 PM, LIBBY GRIMM wrote: > Did you try the Pittsburgh Presby, I believe they still have there offices > on the North Side, Pgh, PA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Thompson"<lt0168@epix.net> > To: "Allegheny Mailing list"<paallegh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:56 PM > Subject: [ALL] Grandview Ave Presbyterian Church > > >> Hi group: >> Does anybody know where the old records from this church are located? >> >> Larry >> -- >> My genealogy page >> http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ >> Allegheny County Maps page >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

>From: Larry Thompson <lt0168@epix.net> >Subject: [ALL] Grandview Ave Presbyterian Church >To: Allegheny Mailing list <paallegh@rootsweb.com> >Does anybody know where the old records from this church are located? >Larry Larry, They¹re in the Pitt Archives: > ULS Archives Service Center > University of Pittsburgh Library System > 7500 Thomas Boulevard > Pittsburgh, PA, 15260 > 412-244-7091 > archives-ref@mail.pitt.edu Here¹s home page: <http://www.library.pitt.edu/libraries/archives/archives.html> and do a Collection Guides search for <Grandview> at right middle of page. 2nd Result out of 4 results: Collection Title: Grandview United Presbyterian Church, Mount Washington, Pittsburgh, Pa. Records Creator: Grandview United Presbyterian Church (Pittsburgh, Pa.). Collection dates: 1857-1991 Extent: 6.0 microfilm reels (3647 frames) Abstract: This collection contains 20 books of records for the Grandview United Presbyterian Church (formerly known as the Mount Washington Presbyterian Church) for the years 1857-1991. The collection includes lists of Pastors, Baptisms, Elders, Deacons, Deaconesses, Marriages, Deaths, Communicants, Trustees, and Suspended Members. Search Results: 13 matches in Entire Finding Aid search terms in context | standard view | full text File Size: 17 K bytes | Add this to my bookbag Happy Hunting! Cari Thomas

Did you try the Pittsburgh Presby, I believe they still have there offices on the North Side, Pgh, PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Thompson" <lt0168@epix.net> To: "Allegheny Mailing list" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: [ALL] Grandview Ave Presbyterian Church > Hi group: > Does anybody know where the old records from this church are located? > > Larry > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi group: Does anybody know where the old records from this church are located? Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Pleasant Valley is in Ohara Township, PA, I live 2 minutes from it ----- Original Message ----- From: "1anniesquest4me" <1anniesquest4me@bellsouth.net> To: "Allegheny Mail List" <paallegh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: [ALL] Pleasant Valley in Allegheny Co > Looking for description and location of Pleasant Valley-- have heard of > it in > old family papers and now stumbled across mention of it in a Nov 30, 1868 > Pitt > Gaz article - "....Pleasant Valley is the euphonious title given to a > rookery > of shanties up a stinking hollow.- Mail > > Messrs. Editors: The gentleman who penned the euphonious article on > Pleasant > Valley in Saturday's Mail should remember one fact. Whoever carries a bad > smell > always with him will not fail to smell something whereever he goes. Let > the > purification begin at the right place- Citizen > Our neighbor of the Mail is sadly mistaken in his description of Pleasant > Vally, > as there are few more delightful places about our city, and the residences > along > it are as neat, handsome and elegant as those found in most > neighborhoods." > > > So- what was the Mail? Would like to see that article--- > > > annie > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Visit our Allegheny County, PA Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paallegh/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAALLEGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030803&printsec=frontpage&hl=en Died Page 11 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Bond, Joseph H., 30, Pittsburgh, 8/2/1903 Bovard, William D., 3, Pittsburgh, 8/2/1903 Coriston, Mary A., 18, Pittsburgh, 8/2/1903 Holder, James J., Pittsburgh, 8/2/1903 Kaiser, Mary, 21yrs 21dys, Allegheny City, 8/1/1903 Lyons, Mabelle Loretto, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Nelson, Mary Jane, 18, Ingram Pa., 8/2/1903 Schopfer, Charles F., 33yrs 2mo 15dys, Shaler Twp., 8/2/1903 Stein, John J., 36, Sharpsburg Pa., 8/1/1903 Wiggins, Robert Lytle, 51, Allegheny City, 8/2/1903 Obituaries Page 2 McKinley, William, 59, Jacksonville Fl., 7/31/1903 Chinery, George Frederick, 51, Pittsburgh, 8/2/1903 Grove, W. J., 73, New Castle Pa., 8/1/1903 Evans, A. B., 51, Beaver Falls Pa., 8/1/1903 Breckenridge, Mary, 80, Wilkinsburg Pa., 8/2/1903 Vanderlip, Rev. G. N., Brooklyn NY, 8/3/1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030802&printsec=frontpage&hl=en Died Page 27 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Bohn, David, 82yrs 3mo 3dys, Allegheny City, 7/30/1903 Connelly, Patrick J., 55, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 Cramer, Charles H., 52, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Cubbage, Charles A., Los Angeles Ca., 7/25/1903 Glancy, Patrick J., 62, West Park Pa, 7/30/1903 Dean, Thomas, 15, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Fawcett, Thomas Sr., 76, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 Geisler, Frank A., 21, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Floyd, Mrs. Sidney, 51, 7/31/1903 Koebeler, George, 78, 8/1/1903 McCarron, John Joseph, 1yr 3mo 24dys, Allegheny City, 8/1/1903 Pickering, Phoebe, 73, Wilkinsburg Pa., 8/1/1903 Quinn, John, 64, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 Volkwein, Fredericka, 89, Kittanning Pa., 8/1/1903 Stein, John J., 36, Sharpsburg, 8/1/1903 Obituaries Page 2 Cramer, Charles Homer, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Geisler, Frank A., 21, McKees Rocks Pa., 8/2/1903 Evans, A. B., 55, Beaver Falls Pa., 8/1/1903 Pickering, Phoebe, 73, Wilkinsburg Pa., 8/1/1903 Haines, William, 36, New Castle Pa., 8/1/1903 Weigert, Susan, Hutton, 66, Colorado Springs Col., Hart, Conrad, 72, Duquesne Pa., 8/2/1903 Stein, John, 36, Sharpsburg Pa., 8/1/1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=djft3U1LymYC&dat=19030801&printsec=frontpage&hl=en Died Page 9 Name, Maiden Name, Age, Death Location, Death Date Bohn, David, 82yrs 3mo 3dys, Allegheny City, 7/30/1903 Breckenridge, Nancy, 80, Wilkinsburg Pa., 7/31/1903 Connelly, Patrick J., 55, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 Cramer, Charles H., 52, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Cubbage, Charles A., Los Angeles Ca., 7/25/1903 Devine, Martin Joseph, 49, Pittsburgh, 7/30/1903 Fulton, Robert W., 54, Bellevue Pa., 7/30/1903 Glancy, Patrick J., 62, West Park Pa., 7/30/1903 Geisler, Frank A., 21, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Haseltine, James M., Swissvale Pa., 7/31/1903 Milligan, John Nelson, 2, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 M'Tighe, James Stanton, 11mo, Pittsburgh, 7/30/1903 Quinn, John, 64, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 White, Wilber Veryl, McKees Rocks Pa., 7/31/1903 Obituaries Page 2 Fawcett, Capt. James(Thomas?), b. May 6, 1827, Lake Chautaqua NY, 7/31/1903 Cramer, Charles H. Sr., Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 Anderson, Nancy, 83, Wellsville Oh., 7/31/1903 Miller, Nancy Jane, Morgan, 66, Chartiers Twp. Washington Co., Reynolds, Loran W., 57, Chicago Il., 8/1/1903 Johnston, Allison, 73, North Braddock Pa., 7/31/1903 Bohn, David, 82, Pittsburgh, 8/1/1903 McCormick, James, 58, Brooklyn NY, 7/31/1903 Quinn, John, 64, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 Fulton, Robert W., 54, Bellevue Pa., 8/1/1903 Devine, Martin, Pittsburgh, 7/31/1903 McIntyre, James E., 35, Greensburg Pa., 7/31/1903 Lawhead, Bertie, Post, 24, Curwensville Pa., 8/1/1903 Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/