This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbartenslager Surnames: Hartman, Kemper, Bartenslager, Noggle Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3140.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could the Catherine Miller born 11Mar1839 also been know as Elizabeth Catherine Miller? I have a copy of the obituary from the Adams County News dated May 17, 1913: I reads: Mrs. Jacob Hartman Died at Her Home in Hamilton Township on Saturday. Mrs. Elizabeth Hartman, widow of the late Jacob Hartman, died at her home in Hamilton township, at 1 o'clock Saturday morning after an illness of several years from a complication of diseases. Death was probably hastened by a fall which she reieved last Sunday, resulting in the breaking of her lower limb. Her age was 74 years 1 month and 29 days. She was a daughter of the late Mr. & Mrs Samuel Miller of Adams county. Her husband died about six years ago. She leaves three children, Wilson Hartman at home; Josiah Hartman of Dillsburg; and J. R. Hartman of Brown's Mill. Also one sister, Miss Susan Miller, at home Funeral Tuesday, May 13th, services in the Lutheran church at abbottstown at 9 a.m., Rev. F. C. sternat, Officiating. I calulated the birth as 11Mar1839. I figure she went by Catherine as her mother's first name was Elizabeth. Does this make sense. Marilyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.