Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court section of the paper. Any ideas? Thanks, Sherry

Hi Sherry, Do any of the names and dollar amounts of the out-pensioners mentioned in the newspaper happen to match the 1883 military pensioners on http://www.pacivilwar.com/1883adams.html ? I've seen mentions of in-pensioners usually with reference to a hospital. I think in-pensioners forego military pensions in return for having everything is provided for them such as full board and lodging. An out-pensioner then would receive a pension instead of lodging. Is the trustee a hospital? I'd appreciate any corrections to my assumptions. Kathi > Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families > that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers > dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea > what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along > w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court > section of the paper. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > > > ==== PAADAMS Mailing List ==== > Adams Co. PA GenWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/adams.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have not seen this terminology used in the many pension files that I have been through. For the sake of finding information about the soldiers, it would not matter if the soldier was an "in pensioner" or an "out pensioner". If the soldier was pensioned at all, he would be listed (in the case of the Civil War) on the Civil War pensioners index at ancestry.com. That same index is on microfilm at the National Archives, and can be rented on inter-library loan. The National Archives also has pensioner indexes from the other wars on microfilm. It wouldn't matter if the soldier was living out-of-state, or in a soldiers home or hospital, he would be listed as a pensioner, in with all of the other pensioners, and his pension file would give great details about him and his family. Some pensioners who were deemed "insane" would have guardians appointed for them, whether or not they were being cared for in an institution. The word "insane" is used often in the pension files, but should not be misunderstood. In those days, "insane" could mean any kind of mental deficit--damage from a stroke, brain damage from heat stroke, and the condition we know today as Alzheimer's disease, were all called the same thing--"insane". The term "guardian" was used in the pension files for persons in charge of minors and those incapable of transacting their own business. Therefore, I would think "trustee" would refer to an institution or perhaps someone who was given power of attorney. Good luck in your search. Peggy Reeves Burtonsville, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry DeLung" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [PAADAMS] Out Pensioners > Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families > that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers > dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea > what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along > w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court > section of the paper. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > > ______________________________