This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbartenslager Surnames: Hartman, Kemper, Bartenslager, Noggle Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3140.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information, this give me more to go on. I know Josiah and wife Anna (Kemper) lived in Annville,Pa. when they died. They are buried in MT Olive with their 2 sons Charles & Phillip. I have found out the Phillip was executed in the state prison for killing a State Trooper in 1924. His mother Anna died never knowing about the crime. Thanks again Marilyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edmorrill33 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3140.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1870 census Jacob 31 and Catherine 30 have Josiah 3 as one of their 6 children. 1850 Hamilton Twp Adams co Jacob 51 and Nancy 42 have jacob 12 as one of their 6 children. Jacob in Mummerts Cem died Feb 13, 1873 age 73-1-2, hence b. Jan 11, 1800. Nancy died Mar 17, 1886 age 80-2-17 , hence b. dec 30, 1805. Philip Hartman of Berwick is the only Hartman in the right area in 1810 with a male 0-10. His father is Philip Hartman. Hartmans are in Berwick as early as 1762. A Johan Philip Hartman came to America on the Ship Mary and Sarah arriving 26 Oct 1754. I didn't have a chance to thoroughly check this but is feels right. PS Josiah is also in Mummert's Cem. Hamilton Twp, Adams Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The only connection I have is that my great great grandfather, James Henry Thompson, b. 1827 Littlestown, was married to one Mary (Ann? Jane?) Arendt.? She died when James was serving in the Civil War.? He went AWOL and came home to find someone to take care of his children.? He hired one Elizabeth Routson/Routsohn/Routzahn to do the job.? Her husband, Daniel Sell, had recently died leaving her and her children destitute. James eventually went back to the war, but served in a different unit.? The relationship between Elizabeth and James eventually became more than just employer/housekeeper after the war.? At that time they moved from Gettysburg to Gallitin Davies County, Indiana, where Elizxabeth became pregnant.? When he refused to believe that it was his baby, she left him and came to stay in Pittsburgh with her sister Margaret.? According to the cenuses, the baby girl, Gertrude, was b. 1870 either in MD or PA.? James eventually came back to Pittsburgh and took Elizabeth and the baby girl back to IN, and they eventually moved to Springhills, Chamnpaign County, OH.? On his deathbed James admitted that Gertrude actually was gus daughter. Amy McWHirter Hutton -----Original Message----- From: Lee Anne Center <lacenter@comcast.net> To: vlhartman@mindspring.com; paadams@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 9:37 am Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in Arendtsville Vicki, Jacob Hartman was mentioned in my paternal side strong candidate gggg-grandfather George Charles (aka Karl) Good's administration. John Arendt was the administrator for Charles Good's estate, along with two others. I have a will and some administrations that you may or may not be interested in. They are for Charles Good, Peter Waggoner, John Smith, and Samuel Fleck. * My Katy Gooden/Good/Guten/other variants married John Smith. * John Smith's 1849 Loyalhanna, Westmoreland Co., PA will bequeaths to his wife Catharine the money being held for her from her father's estate by Peter Waggoner of Adams County. * Charles Good's (d. 1623) estate administration gives a child's full share to John Smith, Jacob Hartman and Peter Waggoner. Charles' first administrator was John Arendt, who died in 1826. After John Arendt died, a 2nd administration team was formed. I have both sets of administrations. I also have William John Arendt's estate administration. * Peter Waggoner's (d. 1852) administration by James Russell has an accounting record that lists two interest payments of $15.60 and $7.80, respectively, to Mrs. Smith and a payment of $137.86 to Magdalena Smith. It also lists a Dr. J. N. Smith acct. for $7.50, but that is probably a doctor's fee. (I cannot find the online listing right now, but found in the past that a Dr. Joseph N. Smith was a coroner at one time, early on.) There are other names of interest in Charles Good's administration and in christening records. I am trying to figure out what, if any, is the relationship among them. I'd appreciate any input. Do you know how the Goods, Smiths, Arendts, and Hartmans are connected? Do you have ideas on how the Fohls are connected to the Goods and other surnames? I'm also looking for possible connections to Schlossers and Seilers who are mentioned in christening records. If you are interested in anything that I have or have things you think I'd be interested in, I'll be happy to share. Lee Anne e ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vicki, Jacob Hartman was mentioned in my paternal side strong candidate gggg-grandfather George Charles (aka Karl) Good's administration. John Arendt was the administrator for Charles Good's estate, along with two others. I have a will and some administrations that you may or may not be interested in. They are for Charles Good, Peter Waggoner, John Smith, and Samuel Fleck. * My Katy Gooden/Good/Guten/other variants married John Smith. * John Smith's 1849 Loyalhanna, Westmoreland Co., PA will bequeaths to his wife Catharine the money being held for her from her father's estate by Peter Waggoner of Adams County. * Charles Good's (d. 1623) estate administration gives a child's full share to John Smith, Jacob Hartman and Peter Waggoner. Charles' first administrator was John Arendt, who died in 1826. After John Arendt died, a 2nd administration team was formed. I have both sets of administrations. I also have William John Arendt's estate administration. * Peter Waggoner's (d. 1852) administration by James Russell has an accounting record that lists two interest payments of $15.60 and $7.80, respectively, to Mrs. Smith and a payment of $137.86 to Magdalena Smith. It also lists a Dr. J. N. Smith acct. for $7.50, but that is probably a doctor's fee. (I cannot find the online listing right now, but found in the past that a Dr. Joseph N. Smith was a coroner at one time, early on.) There are other names of interest in Charles Good's administration and in christening records. I am trying to figure out what, if any, is the relationship among them. I'd appreciate any input. Do you know how the Goods, Smiths, Arendts, and Hartmans are connected? Do you have ideas on how the Fohls are connected to the Goods and other surnames? I'm also looking for possible connections to Schlossers and Seilers who are mentioned in christening records. If you are interested in anything that I have or have things you think I'd be interested in, I'll be happy to share. Lee Anne e

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JReese386 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3174.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Debra, Thanks again for information it aslo helped. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dkohlerx2_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3174.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Joyce: You're quite welcome! If that census material was for the right families, maybe this is a possibility, too. Series: M653 Roll: 1201 Page: 782 1860 - Lewisburg P.O., Warrington, York Co., PA - 8/7/1860 Hess, Moses - 22 - m - stone mason - $700/100 --- Marg. A. - 23 - f - cannot read & write --- Henry - 4 - m --- Wm. L. - 1 - m PA for all. Series: M593 Roll: 1470 Page: 406 1870 - Wellsville P.O., Warrington Twp., York Co., PA - 8/3/1870 Hess, Moses - 42 - m - w - stone mason - $800/400 --- Marg. Ann - 35 - f -w - keeping house --- Alferd - 8 - m - w - goes to school --- Abraham - 6 - m - w - goes to school --- Ellen - 3 - f - w --- Alexander - 6 - m - w - goes to school PA for all. 3 households later on same page: Heiges, Henry - 54 - m - w - farmer - $13,000/1,000 --- Margaret - 59 - f - w - keeping house - cannot write --- Absalom - 25 - m - w - farm laborer --- Elizabeth - 23 - f - w - at home Hess, William - 12 - m - w - goes to school PA for all. Series: T9 Roll: 1206 Page: 265 1880 - Wellsville, Warrington, York Co., PA - 6/10/1880 Hess, Moses - w - m - 54 - father - married - stone mason - --- Mary Ann - w - f - 46 - wife - married - housekeeper - cannot read/cannot write --- Ellen - w - f - 13 - dau. - single - attended school within year --- Moses - w - m - 10 - son - attended school within year --- Carolina - w - f - 7 - dau. - attended school within year PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T9 Roll: 1206 Page: 345 1880 - Dover Twp., York Co., PA - 6/17/1880 Seas, Peter H. - w - m - 34 - head - farmer --- Matilda - w - f - 27 - wife - keeping house --- Henry - w - m - 8 - son - attended school with year --- Ward - w - m - 1 - son Hess, William - w - m - 22 - hireling - hireling Warner, Ellen G. - w - f - 12 - servant - servant PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T623 Roll: 1502 Page: 134 1900 - Warrington Twp., York Co., PA - 6/2/1900 Hess, Moses s... - head - w - m - 10/1826 - 73 - married 45 yrs. - farmer - own/free/farm --- Mary A. - wife - w - f - 1/1835 - married 45 yrs. - 8 children/8 living Yealer, Lydia - granddau. - w - f - 2/1887 - 13 - single - at school PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T624 Roll: 1434 Page: 151 1910 - Warrington Twp., York Co., PA - 5/5-6/1910 Harlacher, Philip L. - head - m - w - 22 - 1st marriage/1 yr. - farm laborer/working out - rent/house --- Lydia J. - wife - f - w - 23 - 1st marriage/1 yr. - 0 children/0 living Hess, Mary A. - boarder - f - w - 75 - widowed - 8 children/8 living - PA Dutch - own income PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T625 Roll: 1669 Page: 33 1920 - Warrington, York Co., PA - 1/17, 26, 27, & 28/1920 Hess, William L. - head - own/free - m - w - 61 - widowed - farmer/general farm --- Charles H. - son - m - w - 27 - single - s... washer/tannery --- Moses D. - son - m - w - 25 - single - laborer/general ... --- Annie B. - dau. - f - w - 18 - single - stack sorter/...t factory --- Emma J. - dau. - f - w - 17 - single - sash cutter/...t factory --- Lizzie I. - dau. - f - w - 14 - single Erb, Bertha E. - granddau. - f - w - 8 - single PA/PA/PA for all. York Archives, affidavits of death: HESS, MOSES 2/24/1906 13-076 HESS, MARY A. 8/17/1914 17-241 York Archives, marriage records: 2/24/1909 2/28/1909 HARLACHER, PHILIP L. YESLER, LYDIA J. 21653 Hope this is helpful, too. Good luck with your search! Merry Christmas & a happy New Year to you, too! Debra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Lee Anne: Many thanks for this Web Site. Can you advise what Census records are available for the Gettysburg area, and how to access same ? Regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > Jim, > > The following great website has images of some early land records for > Pennsylvania. > > http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm?secid=31 > > I have not searched it to see if Alexander Cobean's are there or not. I > hope > it helps. > > You can also find it with a google search on the words Pennsylvania State > Archives land. > > Lee Anne > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed > messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed > messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3709 (20081220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Jim, Here is a link you can reach from the Pennsylvania State Archives that I gave you and that shows Samuel Cobean's land in Franklin in 1819. You probably could use this information to order a copy of the land drecord if one still exists. http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r17-88WarrantRegisters/AdamsPages/ Adams4.pdf Lee Anne

Jim, The following great website has images of some early land records for Pennsylvania. http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm?secid=31 I have not searched it to see if Alexander Cobean's are there or not. I hope it helps. You can also find it with a google search on the words Pennsylvania State Archives land. Lee Anne

Hi Jim, Thanks for the spelling variant information. I was curious because I was wondering if Cubine/Cubin was a possible variant spelling. My husband's ancestor James Madison Bland was married three times that we know of, and his first wife was Elizabeth Cubine. Lee Anne

Hi Jim, I'm not aware that any of the documents you desire are available online. +Neal -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim White" <jimwhite3@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:35 PM To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > Dear Dr. Hively: > > Is it possible to view the applicable data on Alexander, Samuel & William > Cobean, on line ? I have been unsuccessful in doing so. > > My main interest would be for dates, etc, particularly the initial > purchase > date, and when they first arrived in the Adams County area. > > Kindest Regards > > > Jim White > > > Naples, Florida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Neal O. Hively" <nealhively@comcast.net> > To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:06 PM > Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > > >>I have an Alexander Cobean with an original PA Land Warrant, my Survey >> #A-190, in Mount Joy Township, Adams County, index detail on page 84, >> Volume >> 1. >> >> See also the land records' website: http://www.paland.us >> >> Dr. Charles Glatfelter and Arthur Weaner, in the book on The Manor of >> Maske >> list the follwowing Cobean's: >> Alexander, pp. 20, 22-3, 28, 33, 38; Samuel, pp. 33, 41; William, p. 33. >> The p. 33 listing is for their Survey 82 in Cumberland Township. >> >> Dr. Neal O. Hively >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jim White" <jimwhite3@comcast.net> >> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:23 AM >> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa >> >>> Hi Lee Anne: >>> >>> There are many spelling variations for Cobean. >>> >>> However, I am primarily interested in descendents of the Alexander & >>> Samuel >>> (& Samuel Alexander) Cobean families, that are extensively referenced in >>> Gettysburg, and Pennsylvania history. The Civil War Museum, was moved >>> to >>> the original farm of Samuel Alexander Cobean, in 1999. >>> >>> The father of the original Cobean family, was I believe, John Cobean. >>> He >>> may have had brothers, named Alexander, James, William, Thomas & Samuel. >>> >>> The major spelling variations are: Cobean, Cobane, Cobain, de Cobain, >>> Cobaen, Cobine/Cobin/Cobene, Cabban/Cabbane, etc. >>> >>> It appears that those using the Cobean spelling variation, emigrated to >>> Pennsylvania ca 1760, Ohio & Virginia ca 1790, and Ontario ca 1823. >>> >>> The Cobain variation emigrated to Australia ca 1850, and several >>> remained >>> in >>> the Antrim area of Ireland, Galway of Scotland & Yorkshire, England. >>> >>> The Cobane variation remained in northern Tyrone, before emigrating to >>> USA, >>> and Canada, later in the 1800's. >>> >>> The Cobine strain, moved to Monaghan, Ireland before emigrating to the >>> USA >>> in the mid-late 1800's. >>> >>> All records in Ireland, indicate the family was almost totally located >>> in >>> the counties of Antrim, first, ca 1640, and then Tyrone ca 1710, having >>> moved to Antrim ca 1640 in the Plantation of Ulster. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Jim White >>> >>> Naples, Florida >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> >>> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa >>> >>> >>>> Jim and List, >>>> >>>> Do you know of some variant spellings for Cobean? >>>> >>>> Lee Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********* >>>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS >>>> ********* >>>> Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are >>>> gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dkohlerx2_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3174.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here's some possibilities in the census material: Series: T625 Roll: 1507 Page: 176 1920 - Gettysburg, Adams Co., PA - 1/3/1920 Hess, Irving E. - head - renting - 22 - laborer/furniture f... -- Lillian - wife - 22 -- E. Viola - dau. - 2 mos. PA/PA/PA for all. Series: T623 Roll: 1502 Page: 134 1900 - Warrington Twp., York Co., PA - 6/1/1900 Hess, William L. - head - 12/1838 - 41 - married 16 yrs. - farmer - own/free/farm -- Mary L. - wife - 11/1867 - 32 - married 16 yrs. - 8 children/7 living - cannot speak English -- William A. - son - 3/1887 - 12 - at school -- Dazy M. - dau. - ../1889 - 11 - at school -- George E. - son - 6/1891 - .. - at school -- Brice H. - son - 1/1892 - 8 - at school -- Charles H. - son - 1/1893 - 7 - at school -- Ervin E. - son - 5/1897 - 3 -- Moses D. - son - 12/189.. - 4 PA/PA/PA for all. in the household immediately before this one on the census page, there is a Milton Hess, servant, 14, PA/PA/PA, farm laborer. Series: T624 Roll: 1434 Page: 151 1910 - Warrington Twp., York Co., PA - 5/6-7/1910 Hess, William L. - head - 53 - 1st marriage/27 yrs. - mason/stone & brick - own/free/farm -- Mary E. - wife - 43 - 1st marriage/27 yrs. - 11 children/10 living - speaks PA Dutch -- William A. - son - 23 - single - farm laborer/home farm -- Daisy M. - dau. - 21 - single -- George E. - son - 19 - single - laborer/fly net factory -- Bruce H. - son - 18 - single - laborer/fly net factory -- Charles H. - son - 17 - single - laborer/fly net factory -- Moses D. - son - 15 - single - fly net maker/at home -- Ervin E. - son - 12 - single - fly net maker/at home -- Annie B. - dau. - 9 - single -- Emma J. - dau. - 7 - single -- Virgie D. - dau. - 3 - single PA/PA/PA for all. Hope this is helpful. Debra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JReese386 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3174/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for William Hess unknown birth or death dates. He had a son Ervin E. Hess born May 6,1896. or spelled Irwin I think Williams wifes name is Mary not sure. Lived in Gettysburg Adams Co PA .Also any information on Ervin or Irwin whatever the spelling is. They are from Gettysburg PA. Thank You. Joyce Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Dr. Hively: Is it possible to view the applicable data on Alexander, Samuel & William Cobean, on line ? I have been unsuccessful in doing so. My main interest would be for dates, etc, particularly the initial purchase date, and when they first arrived in the Adams County area. Kindest Regards Jim White Naples, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Neal O. Hively" <nealhively@comcast.net> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa >I have an Alexander Cobean with an original PA Land Warrant, my Survey > #A-190, in Mount Joy Township, Adams County, index detail on page 84, > Volume > 1. > > See also the land records' website: http://www.paland.us > > Dr. Charles Glatfelter and Arthur Weaner, in the book on The Manor of > Maske > list the follwowing Cobean's: > Alexander, pp. 20, 22-3, 28, 33, 38; Samuel, pp. 33, 41; William, p. 33. > The p. 33 listing is for their Survey 82 in Cumberland Township. > > Dr. Neal O. Hively > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jim White" <jimwhite3@comcast.net> > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:23 AM > To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > >> Hi Lee Anne: >> >> There are many spelling variations for Cobean. >> >> However, I am primarily interested in descendents of the Alexander & >> Samuel >> (& Samuel Alexander) Cobean families, that are extensively referenced in >> Gettysburg, and Pennsylvania history. The Civil War Museum, was moved to >> the original farm of Samuel Alexander Cobean, in 1999. >> >> The father of the original Cobean family, was I believe, John Cobean. He >> may have had brothers, named Alexander, James, William, Thomas & Samuel. >> >> The major spelling variations are: Cobean, Cobane, Cobain, de Cobain, >> Cobaen, Cobine/Cobin/Cobene, Cabban/Cabbane, etc. >> >> It appears that those using the Cobean spelling variation, emigrated to >> Pennsylvania ca 1760, Ohio & Virginia ca 1790, and Ontario ca 1823. >> >> The Cobain variation emigrated to Australia ca 1850, and several remained >> in >> the Antrim area of Ireland, Galway of Scotland & Yorkshire, England. >> >> The Cobane variation remained in northern Tyrone, before emigrating to >> USA, >> and Canada, later in the 1800's. >> >> The Cobine strain, moved to Monaghan, Ireland before emigrating to the >> USA >> in the mid-late 1800's. >> >> All records in Ireland, indicate the family was almost totally located in >> the counties of Antrim, first, ca 1640, and then Tyrone ca 1710, having >> moved to Antrim ca 1640 in the Plantation of Ulster. >> >> Regards >> >> Jim White >> >> Naples, Florida >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> >> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa >> >> >>> Jim and List, >>> >>> Do you know of some variant spellings for Cobean? >>> >>> Lee Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> ********* >>> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS >>> ********* >>> Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are >>> gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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I have an Alexander Cobean with an original PA Land Warrant, my Survey #A-190, in Mount Joy Township, Adams County, index detail on page 84, Volume 1. See also the land records' website: http://www.paland.us Dr. Charles Glatfelter and Arthur Weaner, in the book on The Manor of Maske list the follwowing Cobean's: Alexander, pp. 20, 22-3, 28, 33, 38; Samuel, pp. 33, 41; William, p. 33. The p. 33 listing is for their Survey 82 in Cumberland Township. Dr. Neal O. Hively -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim White" <jimwhite3@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:23 AM To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > Hi Lee Anne: > > There are many spelling variations for Cobean. > > However, I am primarily interested in descendents of the Alexander & > Samuel > (& Samuel Alexander) Cobean families, that are extensively referenced in > Gettysburg, and Pennsylvania history. The Civil War Museum, was moved to > the original farm of Samuel Alexander Cobean, in 1999. > > The father of the original Cobean family, was I believe, John Cobean. He > may have had brothers, named Alexander, James, William, Thomas & Samuel. > > The major spelling variations are: Cobean, Cobane, Cobain, de Cobain, > Cobaen, Cobine/Cobin/Cobene, Cabban/Cabbane, etc. > > It appears that those using the Cobean spelling variation, emigrated to > Pennsylvania ca 1760, Ohio & Virginia ca 1790, and Ontario ca 1823. > > The Cobain variation emigrated to Australia ca 1850, and several remained > in > the Antrim area of Ireland, Galway of Scotland & Yorkshire, England. > > The Cobane variation remained in northern Tyrone, before emigrating to > USA, > and Canada, later in the 1800's. > > The Cobine strain, moved to Monaghan, Ireland before emigrating to the USA > in the mid-late 1800's. > > All records in Ireland, indicate the family was almost totally located in > the counties of Antrim, first, ca 1640, and then Tyrone ca 1710, having > moved to Antrim ca 1640 in the Plantation of Ulster. > > Regards > > Jim White > > Naples, Florida > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> > To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > > >> Jim and List, >> >> Do you know of some variant spellings for Cobean? >> >> Lee Anne >> >> >> >> ********* >> Visit the threaded archives of this list: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS >> ********* >> Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are >> gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed >> messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed >> messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. >> ************ >> Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 3709 (20081220) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed > messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed > messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3709 (20081220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Hi Lee Anne: There are many spelling variations for Cobean. However, I am primarily interested in descendents of the Alexander & Samuel (& Samuel Alexander) Cobean families, that are extensively referenced in Gettysburg, and Pennsylvania history. The Civil War Museum, was moved to the original farm of Samuel Alexander Cobean, in 1999. The father of the original Cobean family, was I believe, John Cobean. He may have had brothers, named Alexander, James, William, Thomas & Samuel. The major spelling variations are: Cobean, Cobane, Cobain, de Cobain, Cobaen, Cobine/Cobin/Cobene, Cabban/Cabbane, etc. It appears that those using the Cobean spelling variation, emigrated to Pennsylvania ca 1760, Ohio & Virginia ca 1790, and Ontario ca 1823. The Cobain variation emigrated to Australia ca 1850, and several remained in the Antrim area of Ireland, Galway of Scotland & Yorkshire, England. The Cobane variation remained in northern Tyrone, before emigrating to USA, and Canada, later in the 1800's. The Cobine strain, moved to Monaghan, Ireland before emigrating to the USA in the mid-late 1800's. All records in Ireland, indicate the family was almost totally located in the counties of Antrim, first, ca 1640, and then Tyrone ca 1710, having moved to Antrim ca 1640 in the Plantation of Ulster. Regards Jim White Naples, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> To: <paadams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Original Cobean Family of Adams Cp Pa > Jim and List, > > Do you know of some variant spellings for Cobean? > > Lee Anne > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed > messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed > messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 3709 (20081220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Jim and List, Do you know of some variant spellings for Cobean? Lee Anne

Hi List: I am researching the Cobean/Cobane/Cobain family of Antrim & Tyrone Ireland. I believe the family originated in Galway, Scotland, moved to Antrim, Ireland ca 1640, and to Tyrone, Ireland ca 1710. I believe the Alexander & Samuel Cobean family of early Gettysburg and Adams County , were sons of one of the Cobean brothers of Tyrone, or Antrim (possibly John). I would like to communicate with anyone who is researching this family in the mid-late 1700's to early 1800's. I believe the family emigrated to the Gettysburg area, ca 1760. I have extensive reasearch on this family in Ireland, Canada and Australia. I believe all Cobeans can be traced back to the John Cobean family that moved from Galway, Scotland, to Antrim, Ireland, in the Plantation of Ulster, ca 1640. Regards Jim White Naples, Florida

I too would like a copy/scan of that information. I have searched for info on this for my husband's lineage. He is descendant of Hartman, Arendt, Oyler, Bushey, Mickley, Stoops, Eicholtz, etc., and a good number of them would have been in that cemetery. I have documented/photographed most of the headstones in the Greenmount Cemetery in Arendtsville with but one small section to be completed this month when I am in that area but would love to have definative information on those in that graveyard mentioned. I was under the impression that they were moved but do not have that documented. Vicki -----Original Message----- >From: Lee Anne Center <lacenter@comcast.net> >Sent: Dec 15, 2008 3:52 PM >To: PAADAMS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in Arendtsville > >On 15 July 2005 Donna Heller Zinn posted information about tombstone >transcriptions for the now defunct Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in >Arendtsville. > >I am interested in getting a copy (preferably a scan) of G. A. Gobrecht's >transcribed list of tombstone inscriptions for the Old Reformed and Lutheran >Graveyard that used to be in Arendtsville, but is now a bank parking lot. >Where did the pile of broken headstones go when the cemetery was converted >to a parking lot? Were any of the graves moved to a different location, or >were they paved over? > >Lee Anne > >-----Original Message----- >From: Donna Heller Zinn [mailto:djzinn@pa.net] >Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM >To: PAADAMS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PAADAMS] Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in Arendtsville > >Hi Fellow Listers: > >I may have sent this to the list many years ago but I can't remember for >sure. > >I found reference to a list of tombstone inscriptions taken down by a N. A. >Gobrecht of Altoona, PA. - presumably done in about 1910. My question is >.... Does anyone know where the complete transcript of Mr. Gobrecht's is >now???? See what he wrote in the PA German Magazine - [suppliment] dated >February 1910: > >The first paragraph reads: >"NOTE: I made a trip specially from Altoona to the Arendtsville Cemetery to >transcribe several hundred inscriptions from which the following have been >selected. This graveyard was started by the pioneer settlers in the year >1780. There are over 1200 graves, over which there are no stones or >markers, many of these having been broken off or pulled out by vandal hands >to be piled up, with few exceptions in the corner of the old graveyard. The >names of many of the dead are still preserved in the living descendants. We >are informed that no parish record antedating 1870 is extant. If we are >misinformed we hope this may bring it to light. It is highly desirable to >preserve for posterity the names of the dead and it is hoped my effort may >call forth additional data about the pioneers. The old log church at >Arendts stood till 1849 when the brick union church was built by Lutherans >and Reformed. In 1875 the Reformed bought their interest of the Lutherans >in the old church and! > remodelled it, the Lutherans building a new one. --tr.)" > >This cemetery/graveyard is no longer in existence. It is now the >Arendtsville Bank parking lot!!!!!!! > >If you are interested in a scanned copy of the partial list that he provides >in the publication - please e-mail me. > >Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. >HELLER - FEHL - BEAMER - BENDER - FOHL - OYLER - SALTZGIVER - GROUP - >STEINOUR - HUMMELBAUGH - THOMAS - many more...... > > >==== PAADAMS Mailing List ==== >Adams Co. PA GenWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/adams.htm > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > >********* >Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS >********* >Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. >************ >Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Vicki (Koller) Hartman www.waggleswood.com vlhartman@mindspring.com Cell: 678-524-2499 Home: 770-887-3134 www.genealogytrails.com webhost for Adams Co., Pennsylvania www.genealogytrails.com/penn/adams Berks Co., Pennsylvania www.genealogytrails.com/penn/berks Lehigh Co., Pennsylvania www.genealogytrails.com/penn/lehigh Northampton Co., Pennsylvania www.genealogytrails.com/penn/northampton Member of NAVHDA, Pheasants Forever, Ducks Unlimited and The Knitting Guild of America (TKGA) "Any woman who does not thoroughly enjoy tramping across the country on a clear frosty morning with a good gun and a pair of dogs does not know how to enjoy life." 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On 15 July 2005 Donna Heller Zinn posted information about tombstone transcriptions for the now defunct Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in Arendtsville. I am interested in getting a copy (preferably a scan) of G. A. Gobrecht's transcribed list of tombstone inscriptions for the Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard that used to be in Arendtsville, but is now a bank parking lot. Where did the pile of broken headstones go when the cemetery was converted to a parking lot? Were any of the graves moved to a different location, or were they paved over? Lee Anne -----Original Message----- From: Donna Heller Zinn [mailto:djzinn@pa.net] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM To: PAADAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAADAMS] Old Reformed and Lutheran Graveyard in Arendtsville Hi Fellow Listers: I may have sent this to the list many years ago but I can't remember for sure. I found reference to a list of tombstone inscriptions taken down by a N. A. Gobrecht of Altoona, PA. - presumably done in about 1910. My question is .... Does anyone know where the complete transcript of Mr. Gobrecht's is now???? See what he wrote in the PA German Magazine - [suppliment] dated February 1910: The first paragraph reads: "NOTE: I made a trip specially from Altoona to the Arendtsville Cemetery to transcribe several hundred inscriptions from which the following have been selected. This graveyard was started by the pioneer settlers in the year 1780. There are over 1200 graves, over which there are no stones or markers, many of these having been broken off or pulled out by vandal hands to be piled up, with few exceptions in the corner of the old graveyard. The names of many of the dead are still preserved in the living descendants. We are informed that no parish record antedating 1870 is extant. If we are misinformed we hope this may bring it to light. It is highly desirable to preserve for posterity the names of the dead and it is hoped my effort may call forth additional data about the pioneers. The old log church at Arendts stood till 1849 when the brick union church was built by Lutherans and Reformed. In 1875 the Reformed bought their interest of the Lutherans in the old church and! remodelled it, the Lutherans building a new one. --tr.)" This cemetery/graveyard is no longer in existence. It is now the Arendtsville Bank parking lot!!!!!!! If you are interested in a scanned copy of the partial list that he provides in the publication - please e-mail me. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. HELLER - FEHL - BEAMER - BENDER - FOHL - OYLER - SALTZGIVER - GROUP - STEINOUR - HUMMELBAUGH - THOMAS - many more...... ==== PAADAMS Mailing List ==== Adams Co. PA GenWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/adams.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx