Hi: I am wondering if birth records existed for Pennyslvania in 1828. If not, when were records required to be kept. Thank you, Dot **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62)

Thanks Myrna for the nice Snail package. Really stretched me out! It contains several items that I did not have. I have some comments and questions - As you know, my primary goal is to connect my YOUNGs of Adams Co, PA and Frederick Co, MD into the SPONSELLER/YOUNGs of Adams Co, PA. My data indicates- George SPONSELLER, Andrew SHRIBER and Peter, Wm, John, Joseph & David YOUNGs were adjoining landowners/Church members near Littlestown, Germany Twp in the 1740-1800 era as were my DOTTERERs - Conrad, Geo, Michael; and my George & Felty CLEMMER families. John YOUNG ?-d bef 1706 of Frankelbach, Ger m 14 Aug 1698 Anna Margareta HESS bapt 1674 had 2 ch [1 being David]. Widow Anna Margareta m 2nd 1706 Andreas SCHREIBER bapt 1673 in Alsenborn, Oberant Lautern, Ger, had 3 more ch - Ludwig 1709, Andrew 1712 & Anna Margareta 1715, all migrated to Goshenhoppen area,Montgomery Co, PA ca 1721, sons Andrew 1712-1797 and Ludwig 1709 SCHREIBER and David YOUNG bef 1750 were in Heidelberg Twp,York Co, PA [6 mi S of Hanover near Ulrich & Veronica KEISER, whose dau Anna Maria m Andrew SCHREIBER]. Both David YOUNG and Andrew SHRIBER appear in adjoining York Co, PA land rec in 1749-1800 era along with my DOTTERERs. ["Col & Rev Fam of PA" by Chas Alcott Flagg 1911 at http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/lancaster/bios/shriver-frank-w.txt http://www.unionmills.org/green_book/chapter01.htm http://www.unionmills.org/little_conewago.htm Do you know more of the David YOUNG s/o John YOUNG & Anna Margareta HESS of 1700 Alsenborn, Oberant Lautern, Ger? John's widow Anna Margareta m Andreas SCHREIBER 1706 Germany? How abt the YOUNGs of 1700s York co, PA? One of the articles states that Rev Stoever bapt ch of David YOUNG 1735-41. Would you know where I could find those records? The 1778 will of Geo SPONSELIER was wit by a Peter YOUNG and translated by Wm. SLAGLE. Know either of them?? You enclosed the handwritten 5 Nov 1821 will of a George SPONSELLER [wf Margaret] of Adams Co, PA. Where does he fit in?? The URL below on the Rootsweb tree for Hans Phiillip SPENSEILER 1676 is partially hidden and won't read. Please edit! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vsstern/spoonseller/dr01/dr01.001.htm Any help from anyone appreciated!! Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 1-760-941-4716 <HalMac@Cox.Net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mschnorr To: Hal McCawley Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Dotterer, Sponseller, Young I have been digging thru old notes: SPOSELLER WEB REPORT --- dated 2006 Hans George Sponseller bn 17 Dec 1716 near Sinsheim, Palatinate -- d. aft 19 Mar 1778; br Christ Reformed Church near Littlestown, PA. md. Anna Margaret YOUNG d. bef 3 Dec 1767; md in the Lancaster or Germany Twp area. Had ch Anna Margreta SPONSELLER bn 17 May 1743; who md. Issac SHOWN (or THOWN) -- Notes elsewhere say: Isaac SHOWN bn @1724 Duchrodt Meis, Germany. They had son Leonard SHOWN bn Nov 10, 1773 Loudon Co, VA Another note from FTM -- unproven says Anna Margaret Sponseller 1743 -1784 md Isaac SHOWN 1724 - 1787; son Leonard 1773-1845 md Barbara Virginia SLEMP 1775 - 1851. had 16/17 ch.I have a printout on the children. I also found quite a few bits on Frederick Sponseller while I was digging. If you send me your mailing address I would be glad to send them to you. Some appeared in THE STRASSBURGER FAMILY book and are pretty neat. M Isaac SHOWN was witness to will of George SPONSELLER in 1778 ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal McCawley To: mschnorr Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: Dotterer, Sponseller, Young Thanks Myrna. I too have your Geo SPANSELLER 1716 - d aft 1778 in Littlestown area of Adams Co, PA. I am interested in his first wf Anna Margret YOUNG and her parents and siblings. Do you have anything on them? Geo SPONSELLER owned land adjoining my DOTTERER, YOUNG & CLEMMERs in last half of 1700s near Littlestown, Adams Co, PA and were members together of St Johns Luth Ch there. Do you have anything on them? Could I corres with Robert Longbottom of Oh? Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 1-760-941-4716 <HalMac@Cox.Net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mschnorr To: Hal McCawley Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Dotterer, Sponseller, Young Hello --- Yes, that was their territory. George Spansyler bn 1716 in the Palatinate md. Margreta Young who died leaving one ch a daughter. George then md my ancester Louisa Lehman in 1744. Frederick was brother to my ancestor George. I have not done much research on Frederick but have shared info with Robert Longbottom of Oh which gives Frederick md to Julianna Dotterer. I extends down only one child Grorge bn 1 Dec 1805 in Columbiana, Co. OH who md Hannah Forney 1st and 2nd Elizabeth Herbster; 3 rd Leah Clemens. This George he says d. 16 Apr 1886 in Stark Co, OH. He gives 4 ch by Eliz Herbster one a Frederick bn 1840 in Stark Co, OH, md Lydia Stukey and leaves seven children. I have much info on Spanseilers -- most of it from MONOCACY & CATOCTIN Vol II plus direct family info as Catherine Sponseller md Philip Baum, so perhaps I can dig up notes on direct questions. Happy Hunting -- Myrna Baum Schnorr ----- Original Message ----- From: mschnorr To: HalMac@Cox.Net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:57 AM Subject: Dotterer, Sponseller, Young Hello --- I am descended from Margaret Myrise who was md to George Sponseller. I will be glad to share any research I have. This couple wer parents of Elizabeth, Catherine, George Jr., & Rachael. Catherine md my ancester Philip Baum. Myrna Baum Schnorr mschnorr@grandecom.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Fellow Listers: There were actually 2 different sets of Tax Records done. One was done every year while the other was done every 3 years.... so you both are correct. One was the Annual Assessor's Duplicates and the other was the Triennial Rate Books. You may also luck out and find Pauper Children listed in these early Tax Lists. Happy Hunting! Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ******************* > I'm not sure which townships' tax records you're referring to, but the townships I've checked all have tax records from every year, not every 3 years. > > Adams became a county in 1800. The source for these records in located at the Adams County Historical Society in Gettysburg, PA. They are not online. They are listed by every 3 years by township within Adams at that time.

Craig, I'm not sure which townships' tax records you're referring to, but the townships I've checked all have tax records from every year, not every 3 years. -Richard -----Original Message----- From: paadams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paadams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Paxton Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:30 AM To: paadams@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] PAADAMS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 66 Susan, Adams became a county in 1800. The source for these records in located at the Adams County Historical Society in Gettysburg, PA. They are not online. They are listed by every 3 years by township within Adams at that time. Craig

Susan, Adams became a county in 1800. The source for these records in located at the Adams County Historical Society in Gettysburg, PA. They are not online. They are listed by every 3 years by township within Adams at that time. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Alexander <socalsue_2000@yahoo.com> To: paadams@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] PAADAMS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 66 Hi there, Okay, I've got a question. Adams County didn't become a county until 1840. Before that the territory was part of York County. So, how did Adams County have Occupational Tax Processing? Is there a source for these records online? I'd like to check them for ancestor listings. Thanks. Susan Alexander Llauget My family coat of arms ties at the back. Is that normal? ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adams County became a county in 1800. Susan Alexander wrote: > Hi there, > Okay, I've got a question. Adams County didn't become a county until 1840. Before that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi there, Okay, I've got a question.  Adams County didn't become a county until 1840.  Before that the territory was part of York County.  So, how did Adams County have Occupational Tax Processing? Is there a source for these records online? I'd like to check them for ancestor listings. Thanks. Susan Alexander Llauget My family coat of arms ties at the back.  Is that normal?        

No one else seems to have a more definitive answer to this question, so I'll put in my two cents. I don't know at what age Adams County men began to be taxed, but I can say that among the half dozen or so Adams County families I've researched in early 1800s tax records, I've never come across a record for anyone younger than about 22 or 23. Most people I've researched first appeared in tax rolls either when they married or when they were in their early to mid-20s. This suggests that men began to be taxed only when they established a household separate from that of their parents, or as soon as they acquired taxable property or began a taxable occupation independent of their parents. There was likely a statutory minimum age for such taxation (probably in the 18-21 year range), but in practice, few men seem to have left their parents' household before their early 20s. While this hypothesis seems plausible to me, I have to stress that it's only my best guess based on limite! d evidence. I'd be interested to know what the tax laws actually said. -Richard Carlson -----Original Message----- From: paadams-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paadams-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Paxton Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:59 PM To: paadams@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAADAMS] Adams County Occupational Tax Processing I have found a lot of great occupational tax information on my family, but I'm interested to see if anyone can tell me at what age these taxes might have started being billed. Age 21, 20, or 19? The first one that I was able to find so far is age 23 for my gg-grandfather in Adams County. Any help with this answer will be greatly appreciated. Craig Paxton paxgenealogy@embarqmail.com

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Hi Jane: Thank you very much for this info. I had not consider a different spelling, but should of. I will see if I can find out any info on these people. Dot **************Dinner Made Easy Newsletter - Simple Meal Ideas for Your Family. Sign Up Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221991367x1201443283/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225819%3B37274678%3Bs% 3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.dinnermadeeasy.com%2F%3FESRC%3D622)

Dot, After reading Don Varner's email, I looked again at the 1830 census for Varner in Adams Co. In Hamilton Twp is Henry Varner: 2 males <5; 1 male 30-40; 1 male 70-80; 1 female <5; 1 female 5-10; 1 female 30-40. In Huntington Twp is Conrad Wainer Jr 1 males <5; 1 male 20-30; 1 male 80-90; 2 females <5; 1 female 20-30. also in Huntington Twp is John Wainer 1 male <5; 1 male 5-10; 1 male 30-40; 1 female <5; 1 female 20-30 Regards, Jane Tripp ----- Original Message ----- From: Dhazvt@aol.com To: paadams@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] Jacob A Warner Born 1828 Adams County PA Hi: I am wondering if he might of been born in Armstrong County, PA. I know there are a lot of Warners there also. Have you by any chance run across an Alfred Warner in that time frame. Someone thought that Jacob's middle name might be Alfred when I look at my notes? Dot

Hi: I am wondering if he might of been born in Armstrong County, PA. I know there are a lot of Warners there also. Have you by any chance run across an Alfred Warner in that time frame. Someone thought that Jacob's middle name might be Alfred when I look at my notes? Dot **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62)

Dot, Did you mean Jacob A Warner moved to Cedar Co, IA (Iowa) instead of PA? If so, I did see the story about him, coming to Cedar Co in 1855, and marrying the widow Denson (Mary J Riddel) on Jan 29, 1857. I saw that he declared both parents were born in Pennsylvania, so that may rule out some Warner (or like spelling) in Adams Co. >From The History of Cedar County Iowa & a few census records: Jacob A, b Nov 8, 1828, Adams Co., PA in Franklin Twp., Adams Co. PA in 1850 census (as Jacob A Werner) as a boarder & miller in the home of Frederick & Catherine STOVER, he also a miller. to Lancaster Co., PA cir 1851 to Stark Co., OH cir 1853 to Center Twp, Cedar Co, IA in 1860 census to Fairfield Twp, Cedar Co, IA in 1870 census (as JA Warner) in Fairfield Twp, Cedar Co, IA in 1880 & widowed in 1900 Father of Emma M, Henry J, and Clara J. Jacob died March 8, 1903 and is buried in Clarence Cemetery, Dayton, Cedar Co., IA. I haven't found a Warner family in the 1830 census with a male <5yrs in Adams Co. Will check once again and will look in 1840 for 'suspect' parents of Jacob A. I will report back. Please note Dot, I added this info on Jacob in case the extra info sparks an idea with the others on this list. Through all census records I found, Jacob used the letter A in his name (Jacob A or J A) I wonder if he was distinguishing himself from another Jacob Warner, b Adams Co., PA. Regards, Jane Tripp ----- Original Message ----- From: Dhazvt@aol.com To: paadams@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: [PAADAMS] Jacob A Warner Born 1828 Adams County PA Hi: Looking for info on parents of Jacob A Warner born 1828 in Adams County, Pennsylvania. Info says he lived in Adams County, PA for 23 years before moving to Lancaster County, then Stark County, Ohio and to Cedar County, PA where he married and spent the remainder of his life. He died in 1903. Thank you, Dot

Hi: This is what I found on him. Warner, Jacob A., farmer, Section 12; Post Office Clarence; was born in Adams County, Pennsylvania, November 8, 1828; he lived there until about 23 years of age, and then went to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where he remained about two years, and then went to Stark County, Ohio, and remained there about two years, then came to this county, in 1855; owns 400 acres. He married Mary J., widow of Joseph D. Denson, January 29, 1857, a native of Pendleton County, Kentucky; her maiden name was Riddel; she came to this county in 1839; she drove a team of horses across the Wapsipinicon River, the water being so high she had to swim them, and landed on the opposite shore all right. They have one son and two daughters--Emma M., Henry J. and Clara J. Mrs. W. has one son and three daughters--Annie C., Maggie E., Sarah F. and Zachariah, by her former marriage. Dot **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62)

Hello Dot. I suspect MAY be somehow connected to the Jacob Warner you are seeking. I am descended from Johannes Werner of Germany Twp. Adams Co. PA. His descendants may be found as Warner, Varner or Werner. However I cannot locate a Jacob born in 1828. There are LOTS of Jacob in that family and other Warner families in the area about that time period. Can you tell me anything more about this Jacob? What about his spouse and children? Thanks, Don Varner -:Cambria County, PA,, Schools Pages - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacambr2/ - I will search my Varner- Warner- Werner- Verner- database (159,000+ persons) OR my Cambria Co. PA database (89,000+ persons) anytime and share information.  VISIT:  http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/a/r/Donald--R-Varner OR http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/users/v/a/r/Donald-R-Varner

Hi: Looking for info on parents of Jacob A Warner born 1828 in Adams County, Pennsylvania. Info says he lived in Adams County, PA for 23 years before moving to Lancaster County, then Stark County, Ohio and to Cedar County, PA where he married and spent the remainder of his life. He died in 1903. Thank you, Dot **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= MaystepsfooterNO62)

What year does these taxes start? Tks. Floyd MILLER www.unf.edu/~fmille/MILLER.htm ________________________________ From: paadams-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Craig Paxton Sent: Mon 5/25/2009 1:58 PM To: paadams@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAADAMS] Adams County Occupational Tax Processing I have found a lot of great occupational tax information on my family, but I'm interested to see if anyone can tell me at what age these taxes might have started being billed. Age 21, 20, or 19? The first one that I was able to find so far is age 23 for my gg-grandfather in Adams County. Any help with this answer will be greatly appreciated. Craig Paxton paxgenealogy@embarqmail.com ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAADAMS ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAADAMS Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the ADAMS County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAADAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rohilson Surnames: Wilson, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/3192/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found this article in a book on Pa. Families. Any one related and knows anything on the Hugh Wilson (b. 1848) first mention A Wilson Family. JAMES WILSON came from Bellyrashune, Londonderry, Ireland, about 1736, and settled near Marsh Creek, in York (now Adams) County, Pennsylvania He married Jean (-------) and their children, six in number, were: 1) Elizabeth; b. Nov 10, 1743. 2) Hugh; b. Feb. 25, 1748. 3) James; b. Oct. 30, 1747. He died in 1779 from disease contracted in the Revolutionary War; Married Hettie Jack who later married John Thompson. 4) John; b. Dec. 24,1749, 5) Capt. David; b. June 11, 1752; d. July 22, 1846; m. Jane Wilson Rowan, b. Oct.5, 1757. 6) Martha; b. 1754. The Hon. James Wilson, son of the second James, served as a member of the Eighteenth, Nineteenth and Twentieth Congress. He married Mary Reed, daughter of Gen. William Reed of Revolutionary fame, and a sister of Hon. John Reed, first law professor of Dickinson College. Henry R. Wilson was a son of Capt. David Wilson. He was professor of Latin and Greek in Dickinson College from 1809 to 1813. Also once president of St. John's College, Annapolis, Maryland. His son Henry R. Wilson JR supposed to be living in New York City, and his sister Nancy living in Elizabeth, NJ. Jane Wilson, daughter of the second James, d. February 28, 1865 in Jacksonville, Indiana County, Pennsylvania. She married John Hill, on October 3, 1822, who died December 5, 1849. They had children (surname Hill) 1) Wilson James 2) William 3) Dixon 4) Jane 5) Hettie 6) Margaret Nancy Miller Wilson daughter of the third James, born January 22, 1800; died May 28, 1882; married Hon Isaac Robinson on October 24, 1827. Who can give me addition information of the first James Wilson and additional data on his children? Was he the same James Wilson who took up 600 acres of land at Marsh Creek Adams County, Pa., April 16, 1765? A James Wilson again took up 538 acres of land on February 23, 1767 is this the same person? Would like to hear from the descendant of Jane Hill and also the descendant of Henry R. Wilson, son of Captain David, Where can I obtain Revolutionary records of James Wilson? What office did General William Reed (d. June 15, 1813) hold in the Third Battalion of York County during the Revolutionary War? Agnes B. Robinson 1905 Philadelphia. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have found a lot of great occupational tax information on my family, but I'm interested to see if anyone can tell me at what age these taxes might have started being billed. Age 21, 20, or 19? The first one that I was able to find so far is age 23 for my gg-grandfather in Adams County. Any help with this answer will be greatly appreciated. Craig Paxton paxgenealogy@embarqmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarilynKoppelman66 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/1459.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My e-mail has changed to m_koppelman@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.