The Perry Historians FREE Genealogical Workshop date: Saturday, March 15, 2003 time: 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. where: The Perry Historians/Harry Lenig Library 2 miles north-east of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. on Rt.34 Our speaker for the day will be Harry Focht - current President and founder of the Perry Historians. He will speak on the genealogical treasures that can be found in our court houses - in the morning session 9:00 a.m until lunch. Break for lunch - on your own - from 12:00-1:00 p.m. After lunch until ??, he will speak on what is available at our library, the Harry Lenig Library / Perry Historians. There will be some time for research at our facility following the instruction by Mr. Focht. Make sure to bring a notebook and plenty of paper for note-taking. Mr. Focht is one of the best genealogical researchers in this area and he knows alot of secrets on where to find great treasures! Hope to see you there! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. Volunteer at The Perry Historians

A couple of weeks ago I sent a post to the list about a book I had located on the early Irish and Scotch settlers of Pennsylvania. A gentleman from Michigan, Mr. Norman C. Caldwell, took the time to index the entire book and offer it back to the list.   What a nice gesture and a lot of hard work to boot.   Here is the original post followed by Norman's index. It is only on rare occasions that I add a book to the list of "must haves" for the study of Scotch-Irish genealogy.   This one is for our friends with Pennsylvania connections and it is certainly a rare item.   Published in 1856 "by a descendant" it is titled: "A Tribute to the Principles, Virtues, Habits and Public Usefulness of the Irish and Scotch Early Settlers of Pennsylvania,"   Chambersburg, Pa., Printed by M. Kiefer & Co. 1856, 171 pages.   >From the preface the following: "The writer of the Tribute contained in this work, had long desired to see from the Historical publications in Pennsylvania, a vindication of the character and principles of the Irish and Scotch early settlers of this great State and their descendants against reproach, as well as aspersion, cast upon them in some modern publications having pretensions to Historical accuracy...The writer, feeling as if the sand of his Time glass was nrarly run out, and that he ere long must be laid aside from labor... has hastily thrown together in his leisure hours, taken from other avocations, the remarks contained in the subsequent pages." Those other avocations are Dr. Foote's Sketches of North Carolina and Virginia, Day's Historical collections, Dr. Smith's Old Redstone, Dr. Alexander's Log College, Dr. Miller's Life of Dr. Rogers, Dr. Elliott's Life of McCurdy and others, Craig's History of Pittsburgh, Hazard's Colonial Records and Archives of Pennsylvania, and American Archives by Force and Gordon's History of Pennsylvania, Mr Rupp's Histories of Lancaster, Cumberland and Franklin counties. The style of writing and knowledge of early Presbyterian history indicates the author may have been a member of the clergy.   There is a lot of detail on the early members of the church as well as problems with the Indians and the struggle over land rights during the westward expansion.   The book reads a bit like Prof. Hagy's thesis on the early frontier settlement at Castle's Woods and it is a combination of history, genealogy and geography. For those interested in obtaining a copy of the book please contact me at [email protected] for details. Regards, Robert Cowan 525 Harrogate Rd. Matthews, North Carolina 28105 Index for Scots/Irish in Pennsylvania Adams, Samuel,107 Addison, Alexander,131, 152-153 Alexander, Dr.,4, 37, 43, 48 Alexander, Rev. D.,47 Allen, Andrew,107-108 Allison,118 Allison, Dr.,46, 52-53 Allison, Francis,33, 45-46, 104 Allison, Rev. Patrick,47-48, 130 Armstrong, Colonel John,57, 73, 79, 86-89 Armstrong, General,108-109 Armstrong, Justice,85-87 Atwater, Dr.,115-116 Bayard, Colonel John,45 Beaty, Rev. Charles,48, 135-136 Blair, Colonel,108 Blair, Rev. John,43-44, 62, 127, 136-137, 139 Blair, Rev. Samuel,33, 41-44, 118, 120, 139, 150 Blunston, Samuel,59, 61 Boudinot, Elias, LLD,39 Boyd, Rev. Adam,46 Boyd, Rev. Andrew,38 Brackenridge,131     Brackenridge, Judge Hugh Henry,52, 151, 167 Braddock,131 Braddock, General,13, 21, 32-34, 44, 67, 88 Bradford,164 Brice, Rev. John,140-141, 154 Brown, Rev. Dr. M.,140 Brown, Rev. Matthew,104 Buchanan, Colonel,108 Caldwell,118 Caldwell, David,128-129 Calvin,33 Campble, Joseph,     65 Carnahan, Dr.,167 Carter,51 Chambers, Benjamin,24 Chambers, Colonel,108 Chambers, James,93-94 Chatham, Lord,110 Clark, Rev.,166 Clark, Thomas,101 Clymer, Colonel George,98, 110 Cooper, Dr.,90 Cooper, Rev. Robert,105-106 Cornwallis, General,127-128 Craig,4 Craighead, Rev. A.,46 Craighead, Rev. John,104-105 Crawford, John,106 Crawford, Rev. James,105 Croghan, George,     24, 65, 132 Culbertson, Robert,101 Cummings, Alexander,43 Davidson, Rev. Robert,115 Davies,33, 42, 118 Davies, Samuel,42, 120-121 Day, Sherman,4-5, 20-22, 28, 162 Dickinson, John,97, 108, 115 Dickson, Jonathon,12, 16 Dixon,64,134 Doak, Samuel,123 Doddridge, Rev.,144, 149 Dod, Thaddeus,131, 139-140, 142, 154 Duche, Jacob,107 Duffield,81-82, 90 Duffield, Rev. G.,135-136 Dunbar,33, 67 Dunlap, Rev. James,150 Edgar, Judge James,167-168 Elder, Rev. John,72-73, 78 Elliott, Dr.,4, 104, 154 Ewing, Rev. John,46, 48, 75 Fagg's Manor,41, 44, 120, 136-137, 150 Ferry, Harris',58, 112 Ferry, Williams',112 Ferry, Wright's,59 Findlay,166 Findlay, William,131, 153 Finley,118, 121 Finley, Dr. Samuel,44-45, 51-52 Finley, Rev. James,33, 43, 136, 150 Foote, Dr.,4, 114 Forbes, General,67 Force,4 Franklin, Benjamin,12, 16, 97 Fulton, Robert,54 Gage, General,84 Galbreath, Andrew,101 Gallatin, Albert,131, 153 Galloway, Joseph,107-108 Glossbrenner,51 Gordon, Governor,12 Grambo,     33 Grant, Lieutenant,82 Green, General,122, 126, 129 Hall, Joseph,157 Hall, Rev. James,113 Hancock, John,54 Harris,54 Hazard,4 Hazzard, Ebenezer,45 Henry, Governor,45 Henry, Hugh,43 Henry, Patrick,123 Hill, Dr.,127 Hoge, Dr.,125 Howe, General,107, 110 Hughes, Rev. James,140-141, 154 Humphreys,98 Huston, William,101 Hutton, John,101 Ironsetter,86-87 Irwin, General,108 Irwin, William,92 Johnson, Peter,126 Johnston, Robert,115 Keith, George,38 Keith, Governor,11 King, Rev. John,90, 103-104 King, Robert,103 Knox,33 Land Office,60 Lecher, Charles,101 Lee,126 Lee, Richard H.,96 Lippencott,33 Logan, James,5, 9-11, 16 Lyon, W.,87 Madison, James Jr.,123 Magaw, Colonel,108 Magaw, Robert,92 Marshall, Rev. Robert,154 Marshall, Thomas,140 Mason,64, 134 McAden     ,118 McAden, Hugh,127 McConnell, James,101 McCune, Samuel,101 McCurdy,4 McCurdy, Rev. Elisha,154 McGready, Rev. James,140, 154 McKean, Chief Justice,112 McKean, Colonel,97, 110 McKean, Thomas     ,52, 96 McMillan, Rev. John,131, 137-137, 140-144, 154, 167 McWhorter, Dr.,45 Mercer, Col./Gen.,89 Mercer, Dr. Hugh,88-89 Miller, Dr.,4, 37, 41-43, 48, 130 Miller, R.,87 Mitchell, John,164 Montgomery, Colonel,108 Montgomery, John,91 Morgan, Captain,126 Morris,97 Morris, Governor,12, 14, 30 Morton,97 Nesbit, Rev. Charles,115-116 Nevin, Rev. Alfred,103 Patterson, Rev. Joseph,141, 154 Penn,5 Penn, Governor,72-73, 79, 86 Peters,55 Peters, Richard,22-24 Porter, Rev. Samuel,140-141, 154, 167 Postlethwaite, Samuel,101 Power, Rev. James,131, 142, 144 Ramsay, David,53 Ramsay, Dr.,53 Redemptioners,35 Reed, Joseph,75, 111 Robinson, William,118, 120-121 Robison, Captain,74 Rodgers, Rev. John,43 Rogers, Dr.,4 Ross,131 Ross, Colonel George,98 Ross, Honorable James,52, 115, 152 Rowan, Honorable John,52 Rupp,4, 38, 71 Rush, Dr. Benjamin,44, 53, 98 Rush, Judge,44 Sargent, Winthrop,33 Schnider, Conrad     ,101, 106 Scull, John,157 Smith,118, 139, 154 Smith, Colonel James,98, 108, 110 Smith, Dr.,4, 104, 165-166 Smith, Honorable James,52 Smith, Lieutenant James,82-83 Smith, Rev. David,131, 141 Smith, Rev. Joseph,141-142, 144 Smith, Rev. Robert,33, 43, 47, 122, 129, 137 Smith, Rev. Samuel Stanhope,47, 122, 124 Smith, Rev. William,47, 104 Smith, Rev. John Blair,47, 123-126 St. Clair,131 St. Clair, Arthur,151 Steele, Rev. (Captain) John,86-88, 101, 103, 132 Stockton     ,110 Stump, Frederick,58, 85-87 Swan, Rev. William,141 Taylor, Colonel George,98 Templeton, Rev. S.,99 Tennent,118-119, 139 Tennent, Gilbert,40-41, 43 Tennent, William Sr.,33, 38-41, 49, 113 Turbott, Thomas,101 Vegol, Philip,164 Venable, S.,125 Waddell,118 Waddell, Rev. James,45, 121-122 Washington, George,13, 89, 110-111 Washington, President,164 Watts, Lt. Col. Frederick,101, 108 Wayne, General,109, 160 Weiser,65 Whitfield, Rev. George,39-41 Williamson, Hugh,53 Willing,97 Wilson, Colonel,108, 110 Wilson, James,91, 98 Wirt,122 Witherspoon, Rev. David,123, 125 Witherspoon, Rev. John,98

Please excuse the multiple postings - but just wanted to make sure the surrounding counties knew about our next lecture meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]"> </A>Genealogical Research in Frederick County , Maryland  - Panel of Experts ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday,  March 8, 2003 1:00 - 3:00 PM Homewood at Crumland Farms Retirement Community 7407 Willow Road Frederick, MD Open to the public - no charge Contact: Pepper Scotto, Pres FRECOGS 301-834-9907 [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------- Frederick County Genealogical Society will be hosting an educational program "Where to Research Family History in Frederick County - Stump the Panel of Experts" on Saturday March 8, starting at 1:00 PM.   Location of this event will be at Homewood at Crumland Farms at 7407 Willow Road.  This event is open to the public at no charge. This program is a special feature of 2003 for this organization.  Attendees will be able to submit questions to a panel of four experts in researching in this area.  FRECOGS members who live outside the lecture area are able to submit questions and receive their answers by email.  Panel of Experts include:  Mrs. Trudie Davis-Long from Libertytown, editor of FRECOGS 120 page newsletter, author, lecturer, and researcher specializing in MD, VA, and NC.  Current projects include indexing the Linton Obituary Collection at the Frederick Public Library. Ms Mary Mannix from Rockville has a degree in History and Political Science from Hood College, archivist, author, and Manager of the Maryland Room at the C.Burr Artz Central Public Library for Frederick County. For eleven years she was the Library Director of the Howard County Historical Society.  She has held positions at the Lilienfeld Library, Baltimore City Commission for Historical and Architectural Preservation, and the Maryland Historical Society.  She received her Masters of Library Science from the University of Maryland, a master's degree in American History with Museum Studies Certificate from the University of Delaware.  Her published articles have included "Obituaries" and "Photography," "Maps and Image Collections" and"Preliminary Survey of the Cartographic Records of Howard County, Maryland."  Ms Edie O. Eader from Frederick is a paralegal who has extensive work experience in the regional county court systems, particularly Frederick County.  She is a genealogical and historical researcher, and author. .  Edie is co-partner in the genealogical publishing company Paw Prints, with Trudie Davis-Long, and, among others, has extracted records for 3 books from the Jacob Englebrecht Diaries covering marriages, deaths, and property information.  Ms Eader is researching the descendants of the Hawbottom Janet Somerville and Henry Johnson family cemetery (1773-1920). Rounding out the panel will be Mr. Bob Fout, local genealogist and historian from Frederick, MD. Bob specializes in Frederick County, MD and conducts research for those who are not able to do so for themselves at the local courthouse, public library, LDS library and historical society. He also locates and photographs gravestones in Frederick County cemeteries.  His work has pursued family lines migrating into and out of Frederick County by utilizing additional genealogical resources available in Washington, Carroll, and Baltimore Counties, MD as well as Loudoun County, VA.  Mr. Fout is a life-long resident of Frederick County with family roots dating to the 1730's and has over 20 years of experience in genealogical research.  This meeting is the third in the 2003 Frecogs lecture series.  The next lecture meeting will be on April 12 at 1:00 PM, where Rev. Frederick W. Pyne, CGRS will talk on "Researching the DAR Library and Internet Site." FRECOGS purpose is to stimulate and educate genealogical and family history for its members and the general public.   They hold programs such as these to encourage family history using effective techniques to search, record, retain, and disseminate historical information.   Of particular interest is the history of the people of Frederick County. However, many members have families from other regions and states and enjoy keeping up with the ever-changing research availability and networking. For more information about FRECOGS or this program, please contact Pepper Scotto, Pres. [email protected] or  301-834-9907

Zorry if this is repeat tosome but I received a message that this was transmitted in html and rejected by at least one list so wanted to make sure it got resent. -----Original Message----- From: Cheryll Reed [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:47 AM To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' Subject: Anyone researching/interested in Snow HIll Cloister Several of the subscribers to several of these lists are putting a private email list together to share info on both the Snow Hill Cloiser (and it's "mother" Ephrata) and the families associated with it. Chances are if your ancestors were involved, you already know it! However, if your people were Brethren/SDB and lived in Quincy twp, Franklin County, Hamiltonban/Freedom townships in Adams County or the upper Antietam area of Washington County, MD., chances are at least decent they had some sort of involvement with the families we're looking at. If you think your research or interests overlap with ours, please email me before the weekend and I'll put you on our list. Thanks

Several of the subscribers to several of these lists are putting a private email list together to share info on both the Snow Hill Cloiser (and it's "mother" Ephrata) and the families associated with it. Chances are if your ancestors were involved, you already know it! However, if your people were Brethren/SDB and lived in Quincy twp, Franklin County, Hamiltonban/Freedom townships in Adams County or the upper Antietam area of Washington County, MD., chances are at least decent they had some sort of involvement with the families we're looking at. If you think your research or interests overlap with ours, please email me before the weekend and I'll put you on our list. Thanks

Thanks for all of those who tried to help me with finding out what "out pensioners" meant. Here is what I found from the Maryland Dept. of Human Resources web page. Two methods of poor relief developed in MD. The first was to provide direct payment of money for support, a method which began in the colonial period and continues to this day. The second was to house the poor in a county almshouse, later known as the county home. "As early as 1650, direct support payments (later called out-pensions) developed from annuities granted by the county courts to provide for persons too old, crippled, or young to work". Persons receiving relief outside of the almshouse were known as out-pensioners and received an annual pension from the county tax levy. By 1799, out-pensions were granted to the bedridden and people "whose peculiar circumstances may render a situation in the poor-house particularly unsuitable for them" (Chapter 65, Acts of 1799). Annually, the legislature passed laws authorizing persons to receive a pension. These laws indicate that many out-pensions went to relatives caring for orphaned children or lunatic family members. Hope this helps someone else out there. Thanks again for the help. Sherry

I have not seen this terminology used in the many pension files that I have been through. For the sake of finding information about the soldiers, it would not matter if the soldier was an "in pensioner" or an "out pensioner". If the soldier was pensioned at all, he would be listed (in the case of the Civil War) on the Civil War pensioners index at ancestry.com. That same index is on microfilm at the National Archives, and can be rented on inter-library loan. The National Archives also has pensioner indexes from the other wars on microfilm. It wouldn't matter if the soldier was living out-of-state, or in a soldiers home or hospital, he would be listed as a pensioner, in with all of the other pensioners, and his pension file would give great details about him and his family. Some pensioners who were deemed "insane" would have guardians appointed for them, whether or not they were being cared for in an institution. The word "insane" is used often in the pension files, but should not be misunderstood. In those days, "insane" could mean any kind of mental deficit--damage from a stroke, brain damage from heat stroke, and the condition we know today as Alzheimer's disease, were all called the same thing--"insane". The term "guardian" was used in the pension files for persons in charge of minors and those incapable of transacting their own business. Therefore, I would think "trustee" would refer to an institution or perhaps someone who was given power of attorney. Good luck in your search. Peggy Reeves Burtonsville, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry DeLung" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [PAADAMS] Out Pensioners > Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families > that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers > dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea > what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along > w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court > section of the paper. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > > ______________________________

Hello Fellow Listers: Was just informed that the Perry Historians' Annual Meeting Date has been changed from Saturday, May 10th to Saturday, May 17th. This change was due to not being able to find a church/building able to accomodate darkened windows to allow for a slide presentation. Sorry for the inconvenience this may cause. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN Volunteer at The Perry Historians

Hello, There is a book that details families from Adams County, Pennsylvania on eBay that I thought some of you may be interested in. It can be found here: <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2980&item=2913128544">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2980&item=2913128544</A> You are bidding on Monocacy and Catoctin : Some Early Settlers of Frederick and Carroll Counties, MD and Adams County, PA, also Descendants c 1725-1985 - Volume I edited by C. E. Schildknecht. The book is a hardcover first edition that is 465 pages in length, including index. It was published by the Beidel Printing House of Shippensburg, PA in 1985. Inside this book you will find a detailed history of the settlement of of Monocacy and Catoctin, as well as genealogical details on the region's families. The region, in both Maryland and Pennsylvania, is comprised of land from Gettysburg to the Potomac and westward to South Mt. and Hagerstown. Here is a listing of the contents: Prehistoric Families ... page 1 Indians, Explorers, and Indian Traders ... page 18 Earliest European Settlers ... page 55 Settlers of French Origin ... page 110 The German Monocacy Settlement ... page 131 Brethren Pioneers ... page 170 Mennonites in the Northern Area ... page 192 Ancestors of U.S. Presidents: HOOVER and EISENHOWER ... page 202 The Family of Margaret (SCHOLL) HOOD ... page 217 Rev. Ezra KELLER and His Relatives ... page 224 POE, PFAU and Related Families ... page 236 CLINGAN and Related Families ... page 270 McCARDELL and Related Families ... page 297 DELAPLAINE and DELAPLANE Families ... page 317 KEMP and Related Families ... page 371 CLEM Families ... page 409 Notes on Figures and Plans for Vol.2 ... page 419 Bibliography and Sources of the Region ... page 420 Index of Family Names ... page 443

I found this on the internet, and while this particular article refers to England I'm sure it is the same here. Hope this helps some. Monica British Army: Soldiers' Pensions, (1702-1913) Military Records Information 6 1. Introduction Charles II set up the Royal Hospital, Kilmainham, in 1679, and the Royal Hospital, Chelsea in 1681. The two hospitals, in Ireland and England respectively, reflected the separate army establishments for the two countries, which did not become joined until the Act of Union in 1800. Even then, it was not until December 1822 that the payment of Kilmainham out-pensions was taken over by Chelsea Hospital, and in-pensioners remained in Kilmainham until 1929, when the last transferred to Chelsea. 2. Entitlements to pension Soldiers who left the Army with a disabling injury, or as invalids or (for relatively few soldiers before the later 19th century) after completing an agreed term of service, were entitled to a pension from, or institutional care at, Chelsea or Kilmainham. A description of an ex-soldier as a 'pensioner' usually means he was in receipt of an out-pension from one of the military hospitals, not that he was an in-pensioner, actually resident in the hospital. The major series of records (and the first place to look for any soldier) resulting from the grant of a pension are the attestation and other discharge documents in WO 97 , covering 1756-1913: see British Army Soldiers' Discharge Papers (1760-1913), for more details. Regimental registers in WO 120 can include men not included in WO 97 . Soldiers on the Irish establishment had separate discharge records in WO 118 and WO 119 , until December 1822: after that they are included in WO 97 . Discharges under special conditions! , 1830-1870, are in WO 25/3850 to WO 25/3877 , arranged by regiment.

Hi Sherry, Do any of the names and dollar amounts of the out-pensioners mentioned in the newspaper happen to match the 1883 military pensioners on http://www.pacivilwar.com/1883adams.html ? I've seen mentions of in-pensioners usually with reference to a hospital. I think in-pensioners forego military pensions in return for having everything is provided for them such as full board and lodging. An out-pensioner then would receive a pension instead of lodging. Is the trustee a hospital? I'd appreciate any corrections to my assumptions. Kathi > Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families > that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers > dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea > what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along > w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court > section of the paper. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Sherry > > > > ==== PAADAMS Mailing List ==== > Adams Co. PA GenWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/adams.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Rev. G. ROTH married the above two couples on December 17th, 1857 in Adams County. John MILLER and Susanna SLILICK both were from Menallen Twp. Henry A. YOUNG was from Hanover, York County; Kate RIFE, daughter of Isaac RIFE, was from Cashtown, Adams County. Anybody have info about Rev. ROTH...his religion and service area/church?

Does anyone have any idea what this term means? I have several families that are listed in the "Out Pensioner" list in the local newspapers dated back to 1850-1900. I have never seen this term and have no idea what it means. The listing consisted of a pensioner and a trustee along w/a dollar amount. The articles ran on the local business and court section of the paper. Any ideas? Thanks, Sherry

Hello Fellow Listers: Anyone have any ideas on who the parents of this John HANES may be? Thanks in advance! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumb.Co., PA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Husband: John Hanes, Sr. #4686 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: 31-Jun-1799 in 1 Died: 28-Nov-1878 in Arendtsville, Butler Twp.,Adams Co.,PA. 1 Buried: __-___-1878 in Fairview Cem.,Arendtsville, Adams Co.,PA 2 Father: Mother: His age at the time of death was recorded as 79-5-19 on his tombstone and also as 79-4-28 in Orphans Court Dockets. He was survived by 10 children, 60 grand children and 309 great-grandchildren. His surname found as Hayes, Haynes, Haines, etc.. His cause of death was Paralysis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Susannah __________ #4688 Married: ca. 1820 in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: 6-Mar-1798 in 2 Died: 30-Apr-1866 in 2 Buried: __-May-1866 in Fairview Cem.,Arendtsville, Adams Co.,PA 2 Father: Mother: She died at the age of 68-1-24. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 1: Mary Ann "Maria" Haines #2250 Born: 4-Mar-1820 in 3 Died: 18-Apr-1907 in her home, Idaville, Adams Co.,PA. 4 Buried: 23-Apr-1907 in Idaville Ev.Luth.Ch.Cem.,Adams Co.,PA. 5 Spouse: John B. "Johannes" Group, Sr. #2249 b. 11-Aug-1815 d. 1-Dec-1888 Married: 19-May-1839 in 6 Her maiden name also found as Hayes, Hanes and Haynes. She was living in Idaville in 1878. Her deathday also found as the 20th. She died at the age of 87-1-16. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 2: Cornelius B. Hanes #4689 Born: 9-May-1823 in 7 Died: 7-Oct-1890 in Lancaster, Lancaster Co.,PA. 7 Buried: __-Oct-1890 in Fairview Cem.,Arendtsville, Adams Co.,PA 2 Spouse: Elizabeth Walter #4698 b. 26-Jan-1822 d. 15-Aug-1895 Married: He was for many year the proprietor of the McClellan House (hotel) in Gettysburg, Adams Co., PA.. His age at the time of death was found as 67-4-2 in the Adams County Sentinel. He took over being executor of his father's will and estate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 3: John Haines, Jr. #4690 Born: Died: post 1907 in 7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 4: Lydia Haines #4691 Born: Died: pre 1907 in 7 Spouse: William Eicholtz #4703 Married: She was living in Nachusa, Lee Co., Illinois in 1878. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 5: Eliza Haines #4692 Born: ca. 1825 in Died: pre 1878 in 1 Spouse: William G. Eicholtz #4704 b. 19-Jan-1824 d. 31-Aug-1893 Married: In 1878 she was listed as deceased but had lived in Woodbury, Bedford Co., PA. Her brother, Cornelius recorded that she was survived by 7 children - 3 of whom were minors in 1878. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 6: Susannah Haines #4693 Born: Died: post 1907 in 7 Spouse: Jacob Mowery #4705 Married: 5-Feb-1854 in 3 At the time of her marriage she was living in Biglerville, Butler Twp., Adams Co., PA.. In 1878 she was living in Butler Twp.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 7: Nancy Haines #4694 Born: Died: pre 1907 in 7 Spouse: George L. Kime #4706 Married: In 1878 she was to have been living in Nachusa, Lee Co., Illinois. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 8: Reuben C. Haines #4695 Born: Died: pre 1907 in 7 He was living in Canton, Ohio in 1878. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 9: Sarah Haines #4696 Born: 22-Dec-1834 in 2 Died: 18-Jan-1852 in 2 Buried: __-Jan-1852 in Fairview Cem.,Arendtsville, Adams Co.,PA 2 She died at the age of 17-0-27. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ? Child 10: __________ Haines #4697 Born: Died: post 1878 in 7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Mary __________ #4687 Married: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Died: post Nov-1878 in 1 Father: Mother: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (1) Orphans Court Dockets, Adams County, PA. (2) Tombstone. (3) Adams County Historical Society, Cards. (4) The Compiler, Adams County Newspaper, 27-Apr-1907. (5) Compiler (Adams County Newspaper). (6) The Group Family by Mrs. Eva Group Losch. (7) Obituary.

New from Cyndi's list: URL: http://www.pacivilwar.com/1883adams.html TITLE: Pennsylvania Volunteers of the Civil War - Adams County, Pennsylvania Pension Roll of 1883 DESCRIPTION: List of Adams county veterans, widows and dependents receiving pensions for military service in 1883. Includes pensioner's name, town, cause for which pensioned, and monthly pension rate.

Hi Folks: This just came through the York and Cumberland Co. Lists. Knowing that there are WARNERs in Perry and Adams Counties, figured I would forward it to those lists as well. Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumb.Co.,PA. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warner/Damer/Sipe/ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3003 Message Board Post: I am very desperate for any and all help!!! I have been stuck for months!!! I am searching our Warner family line but can't document anything we have.Our Warners started in York County PA and Cumberland PA and moved to Wood County Ohio. I found this article in the Wood County Ohio library; Levi Warner was born in Pennsylvania, January 18, 1835, a son of Philip and Hannah (Damer) Warner. His wife is Magdalene Sipe, born in PA, in Adams County, in April 1833. They were married in York County PA, March 28, 1856, and their children were born. Rachel, April 2, 1857, deceased, Esta M., August 10, 1858, deceased, Amanda, Febuary 15, 1860, Agnes, June 6, 1863, deceased, William H., July 5, 1866, Peter W. December 8, 1867, Milton August 15, 1873. In Amanda, Peter, and Milton's obits they all state they were born in Cumberland County PA. I can't seem to find anything on the deceased children or Levi's parents Philip and Hannah. I did find Hannah in the 1850 York County Census with her children, Levi 16, Peter 12, Sarah 10, Milton 8 and Philip 6, but she is listed as head of household and the elder Philip is not listed. The Younger Philip married a Matilda McMannus in Mechanicburg ? PA. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated!!!!

Hi Fellow Listers: Just wanted to let you know that The Perry Historians will be hosting their annual FREE Genealogical Workshop on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. - at the Harry Lenig Library just east of New Bloomfield, Perry Co., PA. on Rt.34. If interested in more info. - contact me - Donna HELLER ZINN at [email protected]

I recently ordered I will, and mixed in the packet was this will. It was between the pages on the will i ordered, so I am not sure that it even appears in any index - and if it does could it be found if requested? My cost to copy and mail would be $1.80. Will gladly do so for anyone wishing a copy. Send me your mailing address. Pete Apple

We have from "Records of St. Matthew's Evangelical Lutheran Church of Hanover, (York County)Pennsylvania 1741-1831", translated with an introduction by Frederick S. Weiser, pub. by Picton Press, Camden Maine, 1994. page 130: Georg MARTER and wife Anna A son Adam born 28 Jan 1817 baptized 29 March 1817 Sponsors Heinrich MARTER and wife Margaretha courtesy Vanessa Stern and Ray D. Schwartz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sponsors Heinrich MARTER and wife Margaretha are no doubt the well documented Heinrich MATTER/MATTER and Margaretha WILDASIN vs sp of the Mannheim Township line. But the Georg MARTER is not so certain, since Georg MARTER/Motter.Matter apparently did not marry in York County - better to say we can not find a record of his marriage. Is he from the Maryland tribe of Matter/Motter and vs sp ? Any record of his marriage in Maryland? Or is he from the tribe that settled east of the Susquehanna River in Lancaster and Dauphin Counties and while he was passing through Mannheim Township he paused to have Adam baptized? There is no record of him as head of household in Mannheim Township in 1830 (the 1280 census of this township is not legible - most unfortunately) nor can we find Adam - although other researchers say he died somewhere in 1884? If he followed the naming customs of German-speakers he named his son, assuming this is his first son, Adam after his father. There are no given name Adam in the Mannheim Township tribe. But there are some in Maryland and east of the Susquehanna River - any comments appreciated Hal

Hello Fellow Listers: Could someone provide me with directions to the Mt. Carmel United Methodist Church in/near Orrtanna? I will be coming from Carlisle, Cumberland Co., PA.. Thanks in advance! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.