Hi, I have my gggg-grandfather's will from 1804. In it he mentions allocating money for the cost of a funeral ("be paid by my executors hereafter named"). Would this imply that he was to be buried in an established cemetery rather that buried in a family cemetery on his property? From the map of the Manor of Maske I found on this site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/3034/Manormap.html It would seem that his property (plot #79 and 78C) was very close to the Maryland border. In those days would it be an option to take the body that far? His second marriage in 1790 was at Rock Creek Congregation but since it is no more I don't know if they had a burial ground. Neil

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Johannes Chronister arrived in Philadelphia 5 Sep 1738. He settled in the part of Lancaster County which became York County, which became Adams County in 1800. He had his children baptized at the Lower Bermudian Church. There are many, many, online pedigrees at different sites that show Johannes' European roots back several more generations to someone named "Abraham Kronester" in Austria in the 1600s. NONE of them list any valid proofs. Someone even has this posted at the LDS site, though the submitter chose to remain anonymous. Does anybody have any documentation of the ancestry of immigrant Johannes Chronister? If these links are mythical (which I believe they are), I would like to put a stop to the bad information. If the links are valid, please give credibility to your work by sharing the proof sources so that others can order the documentation for themselves. Thank you! Peggy Reeves Burtonsville, MD

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This book was in the effects of a lady who lived in Gettysburg, Pa area. I have found several of the ladies' names in Penn genealogical pages on the Web. This lady's name is not in the book. Therefore I have no proof that these ladies are from the area, but just in case I send this list: “The Pride of Palomar” by Peter B. Kyne Cosmopolitan Book Corporation New York MCMXXI [1921] Inside flyleaf: Clara J. Spangler (in script) Sheet of paper with typing: To On Mildred P. Rogers Oct 23 Harriet S. Broy Nov 6 Margaret Hibbs Nov 20 Clara Spangler Dec 4 Olive Stark Jan 16 Bess B. Kirk Jan 30 Clara Mager Feb 13 Ruth Stone Feb 27 Eula Hook March 13 Edna Blackman Mar 27 (crossed out) Jean B. Fleming Apr 10 (written in) Blondell Martin Carrie M. Blue Apr 24 Geneva Perkins May 8 Ruth Bowman May 22 Hattie Duval June 5 Esther B. Briggs June 19 Mary V. Schade July 3 Mary B. Keller July 17 E. Maude Orebaugh July 31 Nellie Drennan Aug 14 (crossed out) Bather ?M. Fishburne Aug 28 (written in) Rella E. Wilson Mildred S. Schmaling Sept 11 Lulu Guthrie Sept 25 Beulah Archer Oct 9 Each member will put her name and address in _her own_ book. Books may be passed before but should _not_ be held _later_ than dates specified."

Hello, Although my immediate family hailed from Franklin county, I'm tracing other Wests in neighboring counties. My great grandparents were Thomas West (ca 1815-?) and Dorothy Rock (30 April 1817-7 Nov 1886). Does anyone have any connections to Wests? I noticed an Adam West in the 1850 and 1860 census. This is particularly interesting since my grandfather (son of the above couple) was also named Adam. Barb Lebanon, PA

Good Evening Fellow Listers: This just came through the PA Cambria Co. List. Thank you [email protected] for submitting and posting this - it's very interesting! I hope others will enjoy it as well. Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.. **************************************************************** Some time ago I mentioned that after the Civil War, Pennsylvania founded schools for the children of Civil War Veterans. A child was considered an orphan if the father was dead, as most women had no income to support children. Unlabeled Clipping, 1995 [For the one hundredth anniversary of the Scotland School] ORPHANS OF WAR TOUCH THE GOVERNOR'S HEART One breezy November evening in 1865, two scantily clad children begged for food at the front door of the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. Gov. Andrew Gregg Curtin [of Civil War Roundtable fame] spoke with the children and discovered their father had died during a battle. They were orphans with no place to turn. [Note: Gov Curtin was a cousin of General Gregg and Lt.Co. Gregg of the 4th Pa Calvary. The family had roots in Huntington and Hollidaysburg.] Earlier that same year, the Pennsylvania Railroads donated $50,000 to the state. Curtin decided to use the money to place needy veterans' children in homes and schools. He appointed a Superintendent of Soldier's Orphans to organize this task, locating 44 homes and schools for the children by 1912. State inspectors found that many of these children were discharged at age 16 with very little work skills. They suggested that the children be transferred to a state-owned facility to learn a trade. In 1889, legislation replaced the superintendent position with a Commission of Civil War Veterans and Legislators. They decided to build a trade training school in Scotland [Pa, near McConnellsburg.] The purchased 100 acres from Colonel Alexander Stewart for $12,000. John A. Burgner and Sons of Lancaster built the administration and industrial buildings. Today, the school encompasses about 185 acres and consists of 60 buildings. Trains brought the Soldiers' Orphans School's first students on June 1, 1895. [This is the Scotland School for Veteran's Children.] In November 1900, 75 cases of scarlet fever struck the student populace and an on-campus hospital was built the following year. Fire destroyed the industrial building in February 1901. Several new buildings and students' cottages were built over the years. The library/ssciencee wing and the gymnasiums were constructed in 1972. Gov. Robert Casey revealed his 19991-1992 state budget, which included plans to phase out Scotland School over a two year period. Alumni groups, parents and veterans protested and the school was kept open. Budget cuts forced the school to eliminate first and second grades and cut some programs. As I mentioned, there is a book on this topic, which I used at the Hostine Rental Genealogy Library in Hollidaysburg, Pa. I am not sure if they are still in operation. The book contains pictures and descriptions of the schools, and lists of orphans registered over the years in each school. Both boys and girls were included. I first discovered the existence of the book from articles in the Bulletin of the Blair County Genealogy Society, so you might get the bibliographical details from them. There was a school near Huntington, and students were sent to St. Vincent Prep School at Latrobe. I am unable to remember any other schools. ==== PACAMBRI Mailing List ==== http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacambri/ To unsubscribe from the PACAMBRI-L list, send the message Unsubscribe to [email protected] If you wish to unsubscribe the Digest mode send your message to [email protected]

New to the list and would appreciate any suggestions in verifying that I have the right ancestor in a Jacob WILKESON, listed in the1820 Franklin TWP Census of Adams County as the father of John (below): My ancestor, John Wilkeson was born circa 1796/98 PA, married Catherine unk circa 1817-18 PA Children of John and Catherine: John b- 24 Jul 1818 PA Catherine b-abt 1821 PA George b-10 Mar 1822 PA Samuel b-abt 1828 PA Jacob b-abt 25 Mar 1832 PA or Stark Co OH All records for this John Wilkeson and his family list PA, but in no cases give a location in PA. I have found a Jocob Wilkeson in Franklin Twp and the age of the children suggest that this may be the father for John Wilkeson. Other factors including the children of John Wilkeson and Catherine marrying individuals from the Adams County area lend credance to this Jacob possibly being the correct one Any suggestions on researching the Jacob Wilkeson family, would be appreciated. Being on the road 25 days per month and living in CA, limits my research to mainly electronic and mail research. Monte LeBlanc

Is anyone familiar with the family of Jacob Pitzer, dry goods merchant in Menallen township from 1860 to 1880? He was married in 1839 to Maria Bream and they had a son, William. Jacob died in 1889. I'm interested in identifying the parents of his wife, Maria. Dorie [email protected]

The marriages conducted 1840-1868 by Rev. Martin Lohr, United Brethren pastor of Hanover, York Co., PA, have been transcribed from his original minutes book and posted on the York County PAGenWeb Archives at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/york/church/lohrmar.txt. The 76 marriages include persons from New Oxford, Adams Co., PA, through Carroll Co., MD. I hope this information helps someone. Logan Garth Swanger Coordinator: Snyder County PAGenWeb, Union County PAGenWeb

Heard from Kay Mason and then confirmed myself thanks to everyone that flooded the governors and the authors e-mail and those that worked behind the scenes. TYhe bill is dead. The Committee on Government Organization moved to amend the bill on page three, by striking out everything after the enacting clause and inserting in lieu thereof the following: That the code of West Virginia, 1931, as amended, be amended by adding thereto a new section, designated §16-5-36, to read as follows: ARTICLE 5. VITAL STATISTICS. §16-5-36. Electronic filing. That any certificate filed pursuant to this article may be filed electronically." Dan Whipkey "Read no history: nothing but biography, for that is life without theory."

Since I sent the e-mail on HB 4330 to all the lists Sunday evening I have recieved numerous e-mails stating that they have written the governor. Hopefully he will get the message, as of this morning he hasn't veteoed or signed it. The authors of the bill and their e-mails are Beane<[email protected]>, Butcher<[email protected]>, Blair<[email protected]>, Ferrel<[email protected]>, Yeager<[email protected]>, Schoen<[email protected]>, Romine<[email protected]> I also talked to Senator Sharpe, who I was an intern for while in college yesterday and he was going to call the governor. The link to the legislative website agin is http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legishp.html Dan Whipkey "Read no history: nothing but biography, for that is life without theory."

Last Saturday, March 13, in the WV Legislature,House Bill 4330 passed. It is now awaiting signature from Governor Wise to make it law. If you are a family genealogist/historian whose research involves West Virginia, then this bill affects your work whether you live in West Virginia or another state. If Governor Wise signs HB 4330, all birth records will be closed to public access for 100 years and all death records closed for 50 years. We are all concerned about privacy issues but HB 4330 in its current format is too restrictive. Please email Governor Wise and address your concerns. Don't delay. The governor's email address is [email protected] If you would like to examine HB 4330 then cut and paste the URL below. Remember to sign your email with your full name and address.

Is anyone researching the family of Michael Crilley and wife Catherine ? Need the maiden name of Catherine. They m. after the 1850 census. Oldest daughter Anna Catherine age 7 in 1860 census--m. Harry Musser Sr. My daughter-in-law has always heard that Anna Catherine was Indian. Any one know anything about this family from Gettysburg Adams Co. Joanne

Hello Fellow Listers: This just came through the Lancaster PA List - thought it may be of interest to some of the other lists as well. Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOOD MORNING! I am forwarding a letter about the upcoming Heritage Day in the Brocks Gap area (settlement area of several Hessian soldiers and Lancaster, PA families ) of Rockingham County, VA.---I will be there with my Palser Shaver (Balthasar Schaeffer) exhibit. It is a wonderful time of sharing info and meeting the friendly folks-many who are descendants of the original settlers! Joan Shaver-Hill Charlottesville, VA __________________________________________________ Hello, This letter is to let you know about: (1) Brocks Gap Heritage Day which will be Sat., April 3, 2004 from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Fulks Run Elementary School, Fulks Run, VA. If you would like to have a display, please let me know before March 31. For more details, please read further. (2) a new book on the Whetzel family of Brocks Gap, Rockingham Co., VA. Edna Whetzel Dove began in 1985 to compile the descendants of Henry Whetzel Sr., (ca 1735-1816) of Dovesville or Bergton, VA. The 324-page book is typed, indexed, and has a table of contents which is an outline of the family. It was typed and indexed by Mary V. Dove of Frederick, MD. It has a soft cover, plastic spiral binding. If you have any connections at all with Bergton or Criders, VA, your family is probably in this book. The Whetzel family was an early family in the area, and they married into all the Bergton & Criders families, such as Riggleman, Dove, Crider, Caplinger, etc. Two of Henry's daughters moved out of the immediate area - Elizabeth Whetzel Fogle, and Mary Whetzel Culp. The books are $25 plus $4 for shipping. Order them from Lois Moyers, 21104 Dovesville Road, Bergton, VA 22811. Here is more information about Brocks Gap Heritage Day: The fourteenth annual BROCKS GAP HERITAGE DAY will be held at Fulks Run Elementary School, Fulks Run, on Saturday, April 3, 2004, from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. The purpose of the afternoon is to encourage people to bring in their old family letters, Bibles, tax receipts, etc. relating to Brocks Gap residents (including Post Offices Fulks Run, Bergton, and Criders). We'll make copies to preserve the material and to use in future books on the Brocks Gap families. An additional copy is given to James Madison University Library for further safe-keeping. Many of our old photos will be on display on 120 different posters, and Pat Ritchie's library of genealogies, local and regional histories will be available to use to research. We will also be copying old photos of the families, and orders for reprints will be available at a nominal cost. Other family history researchers will be there with their displays and books. The Harrisonburg-Rockingham Historical Society will have books for sale, and local authors will have books for sale. The day is sponsored by Pat Turner Ritchie and Garnett & Lena Turner, and there is no admission charge. Donations will be accepted to buy tombstones for local family cemeteries. Five tombstones have been ordered from past donations and are expected to be erected by April 3, weather permitting. More are planned for other cemeteries. If you would like to have a table at Heritage Day, please let me know before March 31 so we can save you a space. Last year 300 people came from 17 different states, including two separate parties from Washington state! If you have ancestors from Brocks Gap area but have never visited, this would be an excellent time to come see the countryside. We guarantee you'll meet some relatives or at least relatives of your ancestor's neighbors long-ago. We've developed some maps to help find the old family cemeteries. Hope to see you at Heritage Day. Pat Ritchie 1559 Moffett Dr. Winchester, VA 22601 540 662-1475 [email protected]

There is a gentleman by the name of Dennis Brandt who has spent the past several years researching all of the members of the 87th Reg. PA Volunteers. He may have info on Michael Crilly's Civil War Service. His email is [email protected] Vanessa http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~vstern >-------- >Gettysburg Compiler > >August 11, 1896 > >On Sunday afternoon, Michael Crilly, the well-known bill poster and fish >dealer, of this place, passed away after an illness of about four weeks from >the effects of a paralytic stroke. He was aged 78 years, 1 month, and 8 >days. The deceased was an old veteran and belonged to the 87th Regiment >Pa., Volunteers. He is survived by three daughters, Mrs. David Smucker, of >Harrisburg, and Mrs. Harry Musser and Mrs. Geo. W. Myers, of this place. >The funeral took place with military honors this morning from the residence >of Geo W. Myers; interment was made in the Evergreen Cemetery. >------

Could someone help me with a church, birth or other lookup for the above person or surname. My dilemma is that supposedly he was born in PA but I have no idea where. Other Brigance members were supposedly born around 1740 in PA as well. At that time, there were only 4 counties: Lancaster, Chester, Philadelphia and Bucks. I have searched in Philadelphia and Lancaster but I wonder when the counties split if the information went with another county outside of the Philadelphia area. I am sending this email to all of the counties in Pennsylvania, except those mentioned above, in case anyone can help. Thanks!!!!! Teri Tighe Southern New Jersey

Hi Joanne, I have no information on Michael Crilley but am wondering if you have any information on Michael's ancestors. I noticed from Abby Bowman's response that Michael was born about 1818. I am related to an Andrew Crilley, born about 1810. I am wondering if Michael and Andrew might be related? Bill Margerum Kirkland, WA 03/13/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Garner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:56 AM Subject: [PAADAMS] MICHAEL CRILLEY > Looking for information on the family of Michael CRILLY/CRILLEY and wife Catherine. Michael was in the 1850 census as being single age 29 and in the 1860 census age 40 with wife Catherine and three daughters--Anna C. age 7--Harriet age 5 and Susannah age 2. In 1870 also a son George age 5. In 1880 he is listed as a widower. Anyone having info. on this family --please email me [email protected] Thank you. Joanne > > > ==== PAADAMS Mailing List ==== > Adams Co. PA GenWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paadams/adams.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Joanne, Your ISP decided my email was spam and returned it, so I am posting this to the list instead: Gettysburg Compiler January 5, 1897 Deaths in Gettysburg Residents Who Joined the Silent Host During 1896 Aug. 9, Michael Crilley ------------ Gettysburg Times May 7, 1924 IN MEMORIAM In loving remembrance of my death mother, Mrs. Michael Crilley, who departed this life, May 7, 1880. Has gone and left us here behind Cease to weep for tears are vain, For mother dear is out of pain. By her daughter, Mrs. Bertha Myers. ----------- Star and Sentinel December 17, 1921 Word has been received here of the death in Harrisburg of Mrs. Annie Musser, formerly of Gettysburg. She was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Michael Crilley and a sister of Mrs. George Myers, South Washington street. -------- Gettysburg Times December 26, 1931 Mrs. Bertha S. Myers, 74, widow of George W. Myes, died suddenly Thursday evening at 7:30 o'clock at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Miller, 128 West Middle street, where she had been making her home for two year. She had been working about the house during the day, preparing for Christmas, and seemed in her usual health. About 7 o'clock she went to the kitchen for aspirin tablets for her son, Charles Hunter, and brought them into the room in which he was seated. She sat down and almost immediately complained of illness, and asked for a glass of water. Mr. Hunter started to get the water for his mother, but before he had gone more than a few steps, Mrs. Myers collapsed and died before the arrival of a physician. She was born in Gettysburg, a daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Michael Crilley, and resided here all her life. Mr. Myers died August 11, 1924. Mrs. Myers is survived by one son, Charles Hunter, Gettysburg; two grandchildren, Mrs. Fred Kriembring, Gettysburg, and George Hunter, Philadelphia; two great-grandchildren and one sister, Mrs. Alice Smucker, Harrisburg. She was a member of the Gettysburg Methodist Episcopal church. Funeral from the Bender funeral home Sunday afternoon at 2 o'clock, the Rev. Herbert P. Bean officiating. Interment in Evergreen cemetery. The body may be viewed this evening between 7 and 9 o'clock. ------- Compiler September 7, 1868 A WARNING--On Wednesday last, whilst Mr. Michael Crilly, of this place, was engaged in an effort to unload a shell, it exploded, and seriously injured his hand, requiring the amputation of three fingers. The accidents is much to be regretted, more especially as Mr. Crilly is a poor man and has a family dependent upon him for support. --------- Gettysburg Compiler January 6, 1881 DEATH RECORD--The following is the death record of Gettysburg for the year 1880, as kept by Mr. John L. Holtzworth: May 7, Mrs. Michael Crilly. -------- Gettysburg Compiler August 11, 1896 On Sunday afternoon, Michael Crilly, the well-known bill poster and fish dealer, of this place, passed away after an illness of about four weeks from the effects of a paralytic stroke. He was aged 78 years, 1 month, and 8 days. The deceased was an old veteran and belonged to the 87th Regiment Pa., Volunteers. He is survived by three daughters, Mrs. David Smucker, of Harrisburg, and Mrs. Harry Musser and Mrs. Geo. W. Myers, of this place. The funeral took place with military honors this morning from the residence of Geo W. Myers; interment was made in the Evergreen Cemetery. ------ New Oxford Item October 30, 1891 The pension of Michael Crilly, of Gettysburg, has been increased from $8 to $12 per month, with $30 back pay. -------- Abby Bowman Data Entry Manager Pa-Roots Data Boards http://www.pa-roots.com/data.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Garner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 6:56 AM Subject: [PAADAMS] MICHAEL CRILLEY > Looking for information on the family of Michael CRILLY/CRILLEY and wife Catherine. Michael was in the 1850 census as being single age 29 and in the 1860 census age 40 with wife Catherine and three daughters--Anna C. age 7--Harriet age 5 and Susannah age 2. In 1870 also a son George age 5. In 1880 he is listed as a widower. Anyone having info. on this family --please email me [email protected] Thank you. Joanne

Looking for information on the family of Michael CRILLY/CRILLEY and wife Catherine. Michael was in the 1850 census as being single age 29 and in the 1860 census age 40 with wife Catherine and three daughters--Anna C. age 7--Harriet age 5 and Susannah age 2. In 1870 also a son George age 5. In 1880 he is listed as a widower. Anyone having info. on this family --please email me [email protected] Thank you. Joanne