In a message dated 6/24/2004 3:24:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: On the Carroll County Md.1900 census it states he came to US in 1851, How much can I trust this date? I found his intention and Naturalization papers in York county PA ( Int. )1861 (Natz)1863 I gives no other information I took a look at the actual copy of the census page for Carroll township Maryland T623 roll620 page158A. Manchester district. This had a JOHN F. KOERNER aged 82 widowed listed as being born Oct 1818. for the immigration date I read it as 1857 not 1851. This JOHN F. KOERNER is living in the household of his son Edward who was born in JAN 1877 in Maryland. If this is your Frederick J. Koerner, perhaps you should revisit some ships lists with 1857 instead of 1851 and look for a JOHN and/or a FREDERICK. I realize this might not be the help you wanted but thought I would let you know how I thought the number looked like a 7 and not a 1. VA Reed