Here they are in 1930: Main Street, New Freedom Boro., York Co., PA - 4/2/1930 Wagner, Ezra E. - head - rent/$15 - no radio - m - w - 26 - married @ 21 - MD x 2/PA - polisher/insulator factory ---------- Mannie B. - wife - f - w - 27 - married @ 22 - MD x 3 - seamstress/sewing factory Alban, Berton B. - brother-in-law - m - w - 18 - single - MD x 3 - driller/insulator factory Would you like a copy of the page? Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 00:16 US/Eastern, jan1940 wrote: > I would be thankful for a census look up for > Ezra Ehrhart Wagner born 12 / 31 /1903 > Married 4 / 2 / 1925 to > Mannie Belle Alban born 10 / 16 / 1902 > I think they may have lived in New Freedom York County PA. This is > just a guess > I think Mannie may have cared for her brother His name was Arthur > Alban > Thank You > Nancy > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Nancy: Could this be your Ezra in 1910? East Allen Twp., Northampton Co., PA - 4/26/1910 Silfies, Paul - head - m - w - 75 - 1st marriage/52 yrs - PA x 3 - own income -------- Catherine N. - wife - f - w - 70 - 1st marriage/52 yrs - PA x 3 Wagner, Ezra - grandson - m - w - 16 - single - PA x 3 - laborer/cement mill ...in 1920? New Street, 2-WD Nazareth, Northampton, PA - 1/10*/1920 Wagner, Ezra P. - head - m - w - 26 - laborer/cement mill ---------- Lottie M. - wife - f - w - 25 ---------- Warren D. - son - m - w - 5 ---------- Dorothy A. - daughter - 2yrs 6mos Maxell, John D. - brother-in-law - m - w - 21 - laborer/cement mill *possibly 18 I'll continue searching... Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 00:16 US/Eastern, jan1940 wrote: > I would be thankful for a census look up for > Ezra Ehrhart Wagner born 12 / 31 /1903 > Married 4 / 2 / 1925 to > Mannie Belle Alban born 10 / 16 / 1902 > I think they may have lived in New Freedom York County PA. This is > just a guess > I think Mannie may have cared for her brother His name was Arthur > Alban > Thank You > Nancy > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I would be thankful for a census look up for Ezra Ehrhart Wagner born 12 / 31 /1903 Married 4 / 2 / 1925 to Mannie Belle Alban born 10 / 16 / 1902 I think they may have lived in New Freedom York County PA. This is just a guess I think Mannie may have cared for her brother His name was Arthur Alban Thank You Nancy

In a message dated 3/30/2004 4:21:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, dug.reis@verizon.net writes: I just received 2 messages via this rootsweb.com from 'Charflax' and 1 message from 'Jyoung' and one of those Norton detected a virus file 'W32.Beagle' a text.zip ..... Has anyone else detected the same condition???? Doug ---- Hi, Doug- Viruses CANNOT be transmitted via RootsWeb list mail. RootsWeb servers operate on a Linux system which isn't subject to Windows viruses. The Beagle/Bagle virus works by spoofing or forging the sender address (such as my address and "Charflax") and also copying the subject and message content from the infected computer. In all likelihood this means that SOMEONE on the list is infected with this virus and I'd hope that everyone scans their computer with an updated virus scanner -- but any viruses you are receiving are NOT coming FROM RootsWeb or coming through the list -- and they are not coming from the supposed sender addresses. I'd remind everyone that RootsWeb list mail will not come with attachments other than digests that some email programs treat as attachments on the receiving end. Joan, co-admin

I just received 2 messages via this rootsweb.com from 'Charflax' and 1 message from 'Jyoung' and one of those Norton detected a virus file 'W32.Beagle' a text.zip ..... Has anyone else detected the same condition???? Doug

In a message dated 3/30/2004 2:23:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Charflax@aol.com writes: It says it is busy. I will try again. charlynne --- Charlynne- It probably isn't -- some AOLers using earlier versions of AOL have been having problems accessing some of the boards. Try again and if you get the "check back soon" page try hitting the REFRESH button and if that doesn't work try holding down the Control key while clicking on Refresh--sometimes that works. Joan

It says it is busy. I will try again. charlynne

In a message dated 3/30/2004 2:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, Charflax@aol.com writes: Hello! what kind of pictures from york. thanks ,charflax ---- Go to the link Don provided and switch to expanded by date display mode--then scroll down the page and you will see the list of names the poster has pictures for. Joan <---I got curious too and had a look

Hello! what kind of pictures from york. thanks ,charflax

There are some family pictures from York wanting a home at the following url: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.heirlooms > < Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ Administrators for the following lists at Rootsweb: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm

John Miller 1786-1858. Does anyone have information on origins or parentage of this John Miller family? 1st & 2nd generation spent lives in Hopewell Twp., York Co. PA. 3rd generation moved to Grand Rapids, Providence Twp., Lucas Co., OH area. Hopewell Twp. York Co. PA 1850 census: John is listed as a farmer, age 64. (Reel no. M432-839, page no. 175b) wife Elizabeth is age 65. son Henry is 29. son David is 25. Son John lives on wife's father's nearby farm. (Another Elizabeth Smith, age 73, and family live on another adjacent farm, Could be John's relatives.) Also, listed as living on the John and Elizabeth Miller farm are: Elizabeth Sigler, age 18 or 19, born in PA, and William F. Bearde, age 23, schoolteacher. 1 John Miller b: Mar.11, 1786 PA, d: Dec.21, 1858 York Co.PA, +m: May 5, 1808 PA to Elizabeth Trout b: Aug.30, 1785 PA d: Mar.1,1870 in York Co.PA dau. of Wendel & Elizabeth (Druckenbrod) Trout both Millers buried Roundhill Cem. E. Hopewell Twp.York Co.PA. 2 John Miller b:June 20,1818 in Shrewsbury, York Co.PA, d: Sept.4, 1854 in York Haven,York Co.PA (train accident) + m: Oct. 14, 1840 PA to Jane R. Smith b:Nov.6, 1816 PA, d:Oct.3, 1861 York Co.PA dau of James and Mary Smith. Both Millers & Smiths buried next to John's parents. 3 James Smith Miller b: Aug 25, 1842 York Co.PA d: Feb. 5, 1911 Weston, OH +Sept 11, 1865 Magdalena Roth b: Mar 6, 1846 York Co.PA d: July 30, 1907 dau of Phillip & Mary (Schrum) Roth James & Magdalena buried at Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH 4 Emma Jane Miller b: Sept 11, 1866 York Co, PA +John Geahlen b: Feb 17,1860 Baltimore, Maryland d: 1949 both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH 4 George Henry Miller b: Apr 4, 1871 York Co, PA d: July 1,1951 OH +Rose H. Kurtz b: 1881 Lucas Co,OH d: Dec. 6,1960 OH both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH 4 Ella M. Miller b:Sept 24,1874 Providence Twp. Grand Rapids,OH d:Aug 12,1913 OH +Jefferson T. Francis b: 1867 d: June 18,1936 both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem. Grand Rapids, OH 4 Anna Bertha Miller b: June 1,1877 Grand Rapids,OH d: Aug.12,1913 OH +J. Edward Jones 4 Lillian May Miller b: Jan 5, 1880 Grand Rapids, OH d:Apr 28,1951 OH +William E. Gill b: Sept 24, 1875 3 John Thomas Miller b: Aug 6, 1844 York Co.PA d: Dec 30, 1913 +Louisa Cole b: Feb 20, 1849 Texas, OH d: Aug 21, 1926 both buried Forest Cem., Toledo, OH 4 Thomas Wesley Miller b:Sept 21,1867 d:Dec 31,1929 +Dora EliZabeth Spicer b:Feb 3, 1873 d:May 29,1945 both buried Forest Hill Cem., Napoleon, OH 4 Minnie Jane Miller b:Apr 1, 1870 Lucas Co.OH d:Feb 15, 1959 +Charles Blackburn 4 Franklin B. Miller b:Nov.25,1872 Lucas Co.OH d:Feb.20,1962 +Agnes Conway 4 Fannie Nevada Miller b:June 14,1884 d:1962 +Augustus William Geiser b:Jan 4,1880 d:May 13, 1976 both buried Holland, OH 4 Irving Wayne Miller b:Feb 9,1888 Lucas Co,OH d:Sept 1942 +Josephine Vogler 3 William Miller b: & d: June 5, 1846 York Co., PA 3 George Eaton Miller b: Nov. 17, 1848 York Co.PA d: July 9, 1895 Providence Twp., Lucas Co.OH. +married Feb 23, 1882 to Louisa Corena Krohn b. Aug. 25, 1859, d. Dec. 7, 1905 Providence Twp. Lucas Co., Grand Rapids, OH, dau of Michael & Margaret (Flury) Krohn both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH. 4 Andrew James Miller b:Dec 12,1882 Providence Twp, OH d:1939 +Ora Leora Fortney b: Mar 24,1890 OH d: 1961 OH both buried Hockman Cem., McClure, OH 4 William Roy Miller b:Mar 9, 1884 Providence Twp, OH d: Sept 2,1930 OH +Lula Ann Swick b:Aug 19,1888 Paulding Co.OH d: Nov 25,1964 OH both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH 4 Arthur Clarence Miller b: Feb 27,1886 Providence Twp.OH d:Oct 6,1976 OH +Madge Manola Jeffers b: Mar 26,1885 Waterville,OH d: Sept 21,1970 OH both buried Wakeman Cem., Waterville, OH 4 Clifford Earl Miller b: June 22, 1888 Providence Twp.OH d: July 23,1938 OH +Bernice Mildred Amerine b:1894 d:1980 both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH 4 Samuel Frederick Miller b:July 16, 1890 Providence Twp.OH d:June 1969 +Geneva Binou 3 Samuel Gantz Miller b: July 6, 1851 York Co.PA d: Dec. 10, 1918 OH +Maryanna Bearss b:Aug 19, 1856 Catawba Island, OH d: July 18, 1917 OH dau of David and Claris Bearss Samuel and Maryanna buried Wakeman Cem., Waterville, OH 4 Cora Miller b: ABT 1878 3 Robert McDonald Miller b: Nov 12, 1853 d: Nov 14, 1853 York Co., PA 2 Henry Miller b. Jan.15, 1822 PA, d. Nov. 26, 1892 York Co.PA, buried Roundhill Cem.York Co. PA 2 David Miller b. Apr.9, 1824 PA, d. July 24, 1909 York Co. PA, +married Sarah A. Winemiller b.Apr.28, 1829, d. Jan.12, 1899. 3 Infant son Miller 1861, 3 Carrie S.V. Miller 1865-75, 3 Nelia J. E. Miller 1865-75 3 Granville D. O. Miller 1871. All buried at Roundhill Cem.York Co.PA 2 (possibly ?) Anna Maria Miller b: May 5 1809 PA d: July 4, 1885 PA 2 (possibly?) Margaret Miller b: June 27, 1827 Felton, York, PA d: Nov 25, 1910 Felton, York, PA

I Have sent on to the girl with the Arnold family all of your emails rather then giving out her email without permission and I will post what I have on the Arnold family that connected to my Aldinger family. In reading todays mail I would say you are all making good progress. I think what I have is a later date then what you are showing. Here is what I have. Mary Magdalena Aldinger b. 11-30-1857 d. 8-01-1877 married George William Arnold. b. 9-8-1855 children: Medora L. 3-6-1878 d. 8-21-1904 John A. F. 2-4-1880 d. 4-23-1905 William E. 6-29-1882 d. 2-3-1907 Anne Mary 9-23-1884 James 5-23-1886 d. 3-26-1911 George D. 12-30-1888 d. 5-4-1913 Edna Ella 6-11-1891 d. 3-16-1931 Almena Leona 5-31-1896 d. 12-11-1920 Benjamin F. 5-16-1900 Infant son 9-22-1904 Medora L. Arnold married John E Stauffer Children: Esther b. 3-29-1905 John A.F. Arnold married Emma Lehman children: Arthur b. 8-14-1907 Anna b. 4-9-1911 William E. Arnold married Ida Lerew Children: Carl O. b. 8-5-1908 Steward E. 2-2-1910 Laura E. 5-13-1912 Louise J. 4-16-1914 William A. 7-25-1815 Sterling W. 8-24-1918 Earl E. 10-14-1919 James Arnold married Jeanette Enders children: Lawrence M. 12-26-1911 Raymond O. 3-5-1913 Wilford A. 11-9-1914 Paul E. 1-16-1917 Elizabeth G. 5-24-1925 George D. Arnold married Anna Siple Children: George D. Jr. 11-10-1913 Daisy 11-22-1915 Orlee 6-6-1918 Leona 9-3-1920 Frances 10-7-1923 Mary 4-19-1925 Almena Leona Arnold married Ralph Cousal That ends the Arnolds that I have and it goes back to Aldinger's. I hope it is useful to some of you. Kaye

In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Joone1498@aol.com writes: By the way, Joan, can you help me with that Mr. Syd download? Does that take up a lot of space on the hard drive and does it help to read some of those documents? I couldn't read any of those items from the newspapers, but was afraid to download that Mr. Syd thingee. Any help you can give me will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. ---- June- I've never used Mr. Syd but since you are using AOL 9.0 and probably using the integrated AOL IE browser--you might want to ask about this issue on the list we have at RootsWeb for issues related to using RootsWeb/Ancestry which are unique to AOL subscribers: AOLers-RootsWeb-L@rootsweb.com . You can subscribe to this list and post your query there just like any other RootsWeb mailing list. Someone on the list can surely answer your question. Joan

In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, debra@javacoded.com writes: Joan, This is definately my Sallie. You have the same list of children's names that I have. Amos was my great great. He married Susannah HARBOLD. Their dau. Helena was my great. She married John V. McCauley. Their son, William, was my grandfather. I haven't done any real research. Everything I know I have obtained from the studying the census records. One of these days I'd like to make a trip to York. My husband has an aunt who also has roots in York (family name-Glatfeldter) and we've discussed making the trip together. Maybe one of these days if my life ever slows down... Thanks for the help you've given me on this. I'm most appreciative. Debra ---- Debra- I had not seen your message when I replied to June. I think with June's help and my records you have probably found both Jacob and Sallie. I'm certain these are the right LEIB and ARNOLD families. I descend from TWO LEIB lines--that of Johannes LEIB who arrived in PA in 1727 and also from Ulrich LEIB who arrived on another ship the same year. I had long thought the two families were probably connected but had not found evidence to tie Ulrich to the better researched Johannes LEIPP line. I recently saw another GEDCOM on WorldConnect which seems to have provided the missing links to tie both lines together showing that Ulrich and Johannes were brothers. I've not checked this out but the pieces seem to fit. See Nina Harkey's WorldConnect GEDCOM: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I07029 Joan

Hi Joan, We did get an answer from Debra and she identifified it as the correct family. Here's the copy paste from her letter. Hi Joan and June, I hope I'm not butting in here in the wrong place.... and I hope I'm putting this on the right thread. Thank you both for your input on Jacob. The Arnolds certainly seemed to like that name. My Jacob is the one who was born in 1822. This date would be consistent with the ages that have been recorded for him in every year I've found him in the census records (1850, 60, 70 and 80). His son, Amos (my great great grandfather) was born in 1849. He was not with the family in 1870 and as he was not yet married I'm assuming he was off boarding with someone and working. Thanks again for your help. I welcome any and all comments about the Arnolds, Leibs and particularly Jacob. By the way, Joan, can you help me with that Mr. Syd download? Does that take up a lot of space on the hard drive and does it help to read some of those documents? I couldn't read any of those items from the newspapers, but was afraid to download that Mr. Syd thingee. Any help you can give me will be appreciated. Thank you in advance. June

In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:01:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Joone1498@aol.com writes: I had Sarah's name mispelled (Leib), that's why I didn't catch this before. I don't have a location for the family or dates for the other children. Hope this helps. June June- Yes, the correct spelling would be LEIB (pronounced LIBE and originalloy spelled LEIPP). Hopefully, we will hear from the list member who was looking for Jacob and Sallie and she will be able to put all these pieces together. Joan

Hi Joan, I found Jacob and Sarah in the 1870 census. At this time there were only three children listed: John b. 1850 Matilda b. 1852 Oliver b. 1864 The dates on the parents were the same as we both had. This was on page 431, image 146, 1870 census of York, Pa. Hope this helps. June

Hi again Joan, I didn't go far enough when I answered you a while ago. I also have Jacob Arnold b. 1822 married to Sarah Lieb b. 1824. Jacob died 1902, Sarah 1903. I show their children as follows: Amos John Alice Henry Wesley Oliver b. 1864 I had Sarah's name mispelled (Leib), that's why I didn't catch this before. I don't have a location for the family or dates for the other children. Hope this helps. June

Hi Joan and June, I hope I'm not butting in here in the wrong place.... and I hope I'm putting this on the right thread. Thank you both for your input on Jacob. The Arnolds certainly seemed to like that name. My Jacob is the one who was born in 1822. This date would be consistent with the ages that have been recorded for him in every year I've found him in the census records (1850, 60, 70 and 80). His son, Amos (my great great grandfather) was born in 1849. He was not with the family in 1870 and as he was not yet married I'm assuming he was off boarding with someone and working. Thanks again for your help. I welcome any and all comments about the Arnolds, Leibs and particularly Jacob. Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Jacob Arnold: York Co. PA born 1822 > In a message dated 3/29/2004 12:59:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Joone1498@aol.com writes: > I also have this Jacob Arnold in my tree, but I show him as the grandson of > Samuel and Barbara. I show John Arnold and Mary Jacobs as Jacob's > parents. > I have Samuel and Barbara's son Jacob as being born in 1811. > > June- > > You could well be correct. I did NOT have a date for Jacob son of Samuel and > Barbara--only for my Lucy of about 1817. In any case, the Jacob who married > Sallie Leib would have to be somewhere in this Arnold family. > I have not checked the census records for > Samuel and Barbara as yet. > Maybe you can connect Mary Jacobs in your line somewhere. Please let me > know if this is of any help. > > > I don't think the census records would tell us what we are looking for in > this case at this early date. The children wouldn't be named. > > I've been to Samuel and Barbara's graves--as I recall they are buried at > Mummert's Meeting House cemetery--I don't know if there are records for them or > children or grandchildren at this church. > > Joan > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Joan, This is definately my Sallie. You have the same list of children's names that I have. Amos was my great great. He married Susannah HARBOLD. Their dau. Helena was my great. She married John V. McCauley. Their son, William, was my grandfather. I haven't done any real research. Everything I know I have obtained from the studying the census records. One of these days I'd like to make a trip to York. My husband has an aunt who also has roots in York (family name-Glatfeldter) and we've discussed making the trip together. Maybe one of these days if my life ever slows down... Thanks for the help you've given me on this. I'm most appreciative. Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joone1498@aol.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Jacob Arnold: York Co. PA born 1822 > Hi again Joan, > > I didn't go far enough when I answered you a while ago. I also have Jacob > Arnold b. 1822 > married to Sarah Lieb b. 1824. Jacob died 1902, Sarah 1903. I show > their children as follows: > > Amos > John > Alice > Henry > Wesley > Oliver b. 1864 > > I had Sarah's name mispelled (Leib), that's why I didn't catch this before. > I don't have a location for the family or dates for the other children. > Hope this helps. > > June > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >