I don't ever recall a Butner. Lots of Bitner's, though. Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe butner" <jclayb1@cox.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Butner Surname > Greetings Dr. Hively. > > Do your records show a BUTNER, possibly Adam, surname? > > Thank Your. > > jclayb1@cox.net > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Greetings Dr. Hively. Do your records show a BUTNER, possibly Adam, surname? Thank Your. jclayb1@cox.net

Hello Dr. Hivley: Would you be so kind as to explain the unofficial process of owning land in the area at that time period? Kathy Turner Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal O. Hively" <hively@innernet.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > Hi Kaye, > The York County Heritage Trust (and I) have copies of ALL the maps. > George McCann is something of a mystery. I know he's there somewhere but my > "official" PA records don't show him involved in the five-fold acquisition > process. Some of the York County deeds may give a more complete picture, but > to be clear - I do not show EVERY owner through the colonial period, only > those involved in the official process. > Neal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CEHAUGHEE@aol.com> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:45 PM > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > > > > Hello Dr. Hivley: On the maps that you have, are they the same maps > showing > > the shape of the land with the names of the people on them? I have one on > > John Griffith for Hopp Land that I got at the society. I have a slice of > land > > for George McCann that borders Abraham Householder and John Walker and > then > > other George McCann land. I have the survey of the sliver of land for > George > > McCann dated in 1811. I would love to get the map showing the other > George McCann > > land. Would you have that? These are all in Hopewell Township. I find > that > > that this George McCann is married to Martha Griffith daughter of John > > Griffith and Martha Smith who is daughter of John Smith. John Smith's > land borders > > Hopp Yard. I still have not figured where George McCann's land is. I want > to > > order the book on Hopewell I think but want to know about the maps first. > > Thanks for your time. Kaye > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > Project at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Kaye, The York County Heritage Trust (and I) have copies of ALL the maps. George McCann is something of a mystery. I know he's there somewhere but my "official" PA records don't show him involved in the five-fold acquisition process. Some of the York County deeds may give a more complete picture, but to be clear - I do not show EVERY owner through the colonial period, only those involved in the official process. Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: <CEHAUGHEE@aol.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > Hello Dr. Hivley: On the maps that you have, are they the same maps showing > the shape of the land with the names of the people on them? I have one on > John Griffith for Hopp Land that I got at the society. I have a slice of land > for George McCann that borders Abraham Householder and John Walker and then > other George McCann land. I have the survey of the sliver of land for George > McCann dated in 1811. I would love to get the map showing the other George McCann > land. Would you have that? These are all in Hopewell Township. I find that > that this George McCann is married to Martha Griffith daughter of John > Griffith and Martha Smith who is daughter of John Smith. John Smith's land borders > Hopp Yard. I still have not figured where George McCann's land is. I want to > order the book on Hopewell I think but want to know about the maps first. > Thanks for your time. Kaye > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Debbie: I'm having some trouble locating the Charles Hoecke. What are his birth/death dates? Just in case a census taker misspelled the surname, how is it pronounced? Hoke, Hake, Hook, Heck...? I found an Emma Kerchoff in 1900 PA; I'll send you the page. I don't know if she's part of your line or not. I also found a James Kerchoff & family in 1900 PA; they have an adopted daughter named Florence. I'll send that one, too. I found 8 Shillow families in Lancaster PA 1900, but none with a daughter named Mary or Elizabeth who was born close to 1898. Heritage Quest Online does not have 1930 PA indexed yet... I'll send the 2 Kerchoff pages separately. Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 21:10 US/Eastern, DnE330@aol.com wrote: > yes, these are my people. (HOECKE). this info. really does help me. > What does > the GermaNY X2 OR X3 mean?. I would really wouls like for you to send > me the > copies. I've been looking for abouy 3 yrs. for this info., and where > did you > find this? There was a (HECKERT) name to come into the family, and I > can't find > out how. My father was the son of Charles Hoecke, who married a Mary > Elizabeth Shillo/Shillow. She was born inLancaster County 4/1898 with > the birth name > (KERCHOFF). The SHILLO family adopted her. unknown date. I loked up my > father's > birth inLancaster County and he was born a HECKERT, and all of a > sudden he > has the HOECKE name, when they came back to York, Pa. His name is > Richard > Franklin Hoecke, born 8/1922. There was ababy born named Elizabeth > Heckert Marh > 1925 and buried 6/1925. My father has a sister named Dorothy Hoecke,, > so I don't > know how the Heckert/Hoecke are connected. Thanks so much, and if you > can find > any more info. it would really help. Debbie > > Dne330@aol.com > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Dr. Hivley: On the maps that you have, are they the same maps showing the shape of the land with the names of the people on them? I have one on John Griffith for Hopp Land that I got at the society. I have a slice of land for George McCann that borders Abraham Householder and John Walker and then other George McCann land. I have the survey of the sliver of land for George McCann dated in 1811. I would love to get the map showing the other George McCann land. Would you have that? These are all in Hopewell Township. I find that that this George McCann is married to Martha Griffith daughter of John Griffith and Martha Smith who is daughter of John Smith. John Smith's land borders Hopp Yard. I still have not figured where George McCann's land is. I want to order the book on Hopewell I think but want to know about the maps first. Thanks for your time. Kaye

Hi, Debbie: Regarding the Germany x 3: There are 3 columns on the census page--place of birth of this person/place of birth of father of this person/place of birth of mother of this person. So, if I noted "Germany x 3" all 3 columns had Germany noted. If I noted "PA/Germany x 2", then they were from PA and their parents were from Germany... I get my census information primarily from Heritage Quest Online. The Maryland Public Library system provides free access to those with a Maryland Public Library card. I'll send copies of the census pages. I'll do some more digging for you tomorrow and I'll let you know if I find anything. You're welcome. Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 21:10 US/Eastern, DnE330@aol.com wrote: > yes, these are my people. (HOECKE). this info. really does help me. > What does > the GermaNY X2 OR X3 mean?. I would really wouls like for you to send > me the > copies. I've been looking for abouy 3 yrs. for this info., and where > did you > find this? There was a (HECKERT) name to come into the family, and I > can't find > out how. My father was the son of Charles Hoecke, who married a Mary > Elizabeth Shillo/Shillow. She was born inLancaster County 4/1898 with > the birth name > (KERCHOFF). The SHILLO family adopted her. unknown date. I loked up my > father's > birth inLancaster County and he was born a HECKERT, and all of a > sudden he > has the HOECKE name, when they came back to York, Pa. His name is > Richard > Franklin Hoecke, born 8/1922. There was ababy born named Elizabeth > Heckert Marh > 1925 and buried 6/1925. My father has a sister named Dorothy Hoecke,, > so I don't > know how the Heckert/Hoecke are connected. Thanks so much, and if you > can find > any more info. it would really help. Debbie > > Dne330@aol.com > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

yes, these are my people. (HOECKE). this info. really does help me. What does the GermaNY X2 OR X3 mean?. I would really wouls like for you to send me the copies. I've been looking for abouy 3 yrs. for this info., and where did you find this? There was a (HECKERT) name to come into the family, and I can't find out how. My father was the son of Charles Hoecke, who married a Mary Elizabeth Shillo/Shillow. She was born inLancaster County 4/1898 with the birth name (KERCHOFF). The SHILLO family adopted her. unknown date. I loked up my father's birth inLancaster County and he was born a HECKERT, and all of a sudden he has the HOECKE name, when they came back to York, Pa. His name is Richard Franklin Hoecke, born 8/1922. There was ababy born named Elizabeth Heckert Marh 1925 and buried 6/1925. My father has a sister named Dorothy Hoecke,, so I don't know how the Heckert/Hoecke are connected. Thanks so much, and if you can find any more info. it would really help. Debbie Dne330@aol.com

Hi- Dr. Neal Hively writing. I have four listings for a John Miller in Hopewell Township, original PA Land Records, beginning in 1768: John shows up as owner of surveys (my index listings) 1075 in 1768, #1145 (in 1794), #1198 (in 1793), and 1267 (in 1809). The later three may be a second generation. Details of the land info are available in my book: The Hopewell Townships (Vol. 7), Original PA Land Records Series for York County, PA. There is also a set of "connected survey maps" which show how all of the original colonial surveys fit together and where those lands were located. See my website for more info: http://www.innernet.net/hively/paland My best, Dr. Neal O. Hively ----- Original Message ----- From: <BJacamel@aol.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > John Miller 1786-1858. Does anyone have information on origins or parentage > of this John Miller family? 1st & 2nd generation spent lives in Hopewell Twp., > York Co. PA. 3rd generation moved to Grand Rapids, Providence Twp., Lucas > Co., OH area. > > Hopewell Twp. York Co. PA 1850 census: > > John is listed as a farmer, age 64. (Reel no. M432-839, page no. > 175b) wife Elizabeth is age 65. son Henry is 29. son David is 25. Son John > lives on wife's father's nearby farm. > (Another Elizabeth Smith, > age 73, and family live on another adjacent farm, Could be John's relatives.) > Also, listed as living on the John and Elizabeth Miller farm are: Elizabeth > Sigler, age 18 or 19, born in PA, and William F. Bearde, age 23, schoolteacher. > > 1 John Miller b: Mar.11, 1786 PA, d: Dec.21, 1858 York Co.PA, > +m: May 5, 1808 PA to Elizabeth Trout b: Aug.30, 1785 PA d: Mar.1,1870 in > York Co.PA > dau. of Wendel & Elizabeth (Druckenbrod) Trout > both Millers buried Roundhill Cem. E. Hopewell Twp.York Co.PA. > > 2 John Miller b:June 20,1818 in Shrewsbury, York Co.PA, d: Sept.4, 1854 in > York Haven,York Co.PA (train > accident) > + m: Oct. 14, 1840 PA to Jane R. Smith b:Nov.6, 1816 PA, d:Oct.3, 1861 York > Co.PA > dau of James and Mary Smith. Both Millers & Smiths buried next to John's > parents. > > 3 James Smith Miller b: Aug 25, 1842 York Co.PA d: Feb. 5, 1911 Weston, > OH > +Sept 11, 1865 Magdalena Roth b: Mar 6, 1846 York Co.PA d: July 30, > 1907 > dau of Phillip & Mary (Schrum) Roth > James & Magdalena buried at Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 Emma Jane Miller b: Sept 11, 1866 York Co, PA > +John Geahlen b: Feb 17,1860 Baltimore, Maryland d: 1949 > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 George Henry Miller b: Apr 4, 1871 York Co, PA d: July 1,1951 > OH > +Rose H. Kurtz b: 1881 Lucas Co,OH d: Dec. 6,1960 OH > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 Ella M. Miller b:Sept 24,1874 Providence Twp. Grand Rapids,OH > d:Aug 12,1913 OH > +Jefferson T. Francis b: 1867 d: June 18,1936 > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem. Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 Anna Bertha Miller b: June 1,1877 Grand Rapids,OH d: > Aug.12,1913 OH > +J. Edward Jones > > 4 Lillian May Miller b: Jan 5, 1880 Grand Rapids, OH d:Apr 28,1951 > OH > +William E. Gill b: Sept 24, 1875 > > 3 John Thomas Miller b: Aug 6, 1844 York Co.PA d: Dec 30, 1913 > +Louisa Cole b: Feb 20, 1849 Texas, OH d: Aug 21, 1926 > both buried Forest Cem., Toledo, OH > > 4 Thomas Wesley Miller b:Sept 21,1867 d:Dec 31,1929 > +Dora EliZabeth Spicer b:Feb 3, 1873 d:May 29,1945 > both buried Forest Hill Cem., Napoleon, OH > > 4 Minnie Jane Miller b:Apr 1, 1870 Lucas Co.OH d:Feb 15, 1959 > +Charles Blackburn > > 4 Franklin B. Miller b:Nov.25,1872 Lucas Co.OH d:Feb.20,1962 > +Agnes Conway > > 4 Fannie Nevada Miller b:June 14,1884 d:1962 > +Augustus William Geiser b:Jan 4,1880 d:May 13, 1976 > both buried Holland, OH > > 4 Irving Wayne Miller b:Feb 9,1888 Lucas Co,OH d:Sept 1942 > +Josephine Vogler > > 3 William Miller b: & d: June 5, 1846 York Co., PA > > 3 George Eaton Miller b: Nov. 17, 1848 York Co.PA d: July 9, 1895 Providence > Twp., Lucas Co.OH. > +married Feb 23, 1882 to Louisa Corena Krohn b. Aug. 25, 1859, d. Dec. 7, > 1905 Providence Twp. Lucas Co., Grand Rapids, OH, dau of Michael & Margaret > (Flury) Krohn > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH. > > 4 Andrew James Miller b:Dec 12,1882 Providence Twp, OH d:1939 > +Ora Leora Fortney b: Mar 24,1890 OH d: 1961 OH > both buried Hockman Cem., McClure, OH > > 4 William Roy Miller b:Mar 9, 1884 Providence Twp, OH d: Sept 2,1930 > OH > +Lula Ann Swick b:Aug 19,1888 Paulding Co.OH d: Nov 25,1964 OH > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 Arthur Clarence Miller b: Feb 27,1886 Providence Twp.OH d:Oct 6,1976 > OH > +Madge Manola Jeffers b: Mar 26,1885 Waterville,OH d: Sept 21,1970 > OH > both buried Wakeman Cem., Waterville, OH > > 4 Clifford Earl Miller b: June 22, 1888 Providence Twp.OH d: July > 23,1938 OH > +Bernice Mildred Amerine b:1894 d:1980 > both buried Mt. Pleasant Cem., Grand Rapids, OH > > 4 Samuel Frederick Miller b:July 16, 1890 Providence Twp.OH d:June > 1969 > +Geneva Binou > > 3 Samuel Gantz Miller b: July 6, 1851 York Co.PA d: Dec. 10, 1918 OH > +Maryanna Bearss b:Aug 19, 1856 Catawba Island, OH d: July 18, 1917 OH > dau of David and Claris Bearss > Samuel and Maryanna buried Wakeman Cem., Waterville, OH > > 4 Cora Miller b: ABT 1878 > > 3 Robert McDonald Miller b: Nov 12, 1853 d: Nov 14, 1853 York Co., PA > > 2 Henry Miller b. Jan.15, 1822 PA, d. Nov. 26, 1892 York Co.PA, > buried Roundhill Cem.York Co. PA > > 2 David Miller b. Apr.9, 1824 PA, d. July 24, 1909 York Co. PA, > +married Sarah A. Winemiller b.Apr.28, 1829, d. Jan.12, 1899. > 3 Infant son Miller 1861, > 3 Carrie S.V. Miller 1865-75, > 3 Nelia J. E. Miller 1865-75 > 3 Granville D. O. Miller 1871. > All buried at Roundhill Cem.York Co.PA > 2 (possibly ?) Anna Maria Miller b: May 5 1809 PA d: July 4, 1885 PA > 2 (possibly?) Margaret Miller b: June 27, 1827 Felton, York, PA d: Nov 25, > 1910 Felton, York, PA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Is this your Fredrick Hoecke in 1920? 225 Susquehanna Ave., York City, York Co., PA - 1/22/1920 French, Oliver - head - m - w - 34 - married - PA x 3 - laborer/machine co. --------- Marie - wife - f - w - 27 - married - 1896/Na/1901- Germany x 3 --------- Anna - daughter - f - w - 12 - single - PA x 2/Germany --------- John - son - m - w - 10 - single - PA x 2/Germany --------- Romaine - daughter - f - w - 6 - single - PA x 2/Germany --------- Flora - daughter - f - w - 4 - single - PA x 2/Germany Hoecke, Fred - father-in-law - m - w - 60 - widowed - 1896/Na/19?? - Germany x 3 ...in 1900: West Manchester Twp., York Co., PA - 6/1/1900 Hoecke, Frederick R. - head - w - m - 5/1860 - 40 - married 16 yrs. - Germany x 3 - 1896/4/Par - Day laborer ---------- Elizabeth - wife - w - f - 6/1868 - 3? - married 16 yrs. - Germany x 3 - 1896/4 ---------- William F. - son - w - m - 11/1890 - 9 - single - Germany x 3 - 1896/4 ---------- Marie A. - daughter - w - f - 11/1891 - 8 - single - Germany x 3 - 1896/4 ---------- Lina - daughter - w - m - 5/1895 - 5 - single - Germany x 3 - 1896/4 ---------- Charles - son - w - m - 1/1898 - 2 - single - PA/Germany x 2 ...Elizabeth in 1910: 132 Poplar Street, 6-WD York, York Co., PA - 4/21/1910 (on 2 pages) Hoecke, Elizabeth - head - f - w - 41 - 1st marriage/25 yrs. - 7 children/5 living - Germany x 3 - laborer/house cleaning ---------- Lena C. - daughter - f - w - 14 - single - Germany x 3 - none ---------- Charles - son - m - w - 12 - single - PA/Germany x 2 - none Lau, ? - boarder - m - w - 36 - single - PA x 3 - laborer/odd jobs French, Marie - daughter - f - w - 1st marriage/3 yrs. - 2 children/2 living - Germany x 3 - none --------- Annie L. - grandchild - f - w - 2 - single - PA/MD/Germany - none --------- John L. - grandchild - m - w - 11 mos. - single - PA/MD/Germany - none Would you like copies of these pages? I can email them to you. Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 16:17 US/Eastern, DnE330@aol.com wrote: > Looking up cenus in york, pa for HOECKE families in year of 1920-1944. > Name: FREDRICK, ELIZABETH, CHARLES, WILLIAM, AND RICHARD. Last know > addresses were 900 block south albermarle street york,pa. > There was rumor of the family owing a speak easy . > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an > e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Looking up cenus in york, pa for HOECKE families in year of 1920-1944. Name: FREDRICK, ELIZABETH, CHARLES, WILLIAM, AND RICHARD. Last know addresses were 900 block south albermarle street york,pa. There was rumor of the family owing a speak easy .

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Nancy, 1930 Census shows Ezra and Mannie living in a $15 a month rental home in New Freedom, York, PA. Your birthdates are correct. Married ca. 1925. Shows Ezra and father born in MD and mother born in PA. Mannie and both parents were born in MD Ezra's occupation - polisher in insulation factory. Mannie was a seamstress in a sewing factory. Mannie's brother, Bertan B. Alban lived with them. 18 years old, so born ca 1912 MD, works as a driller at the insulation factory. Rehmeyer family living in same dwelling....a duplex??? hope this helps, will look up 1920 later today Shirl Taylor-Pierce

Hello Debra Thanks for the look up, Yes this is my Mannie, her Father and George were my Grandfather's brother's Yes I would love copy's Now if I can find her after she got married I will be able to fill in her page. Thank You again for your time Nancy --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.]

Hello Don: No Don I don't but will pass it on to Diane and also your email and maybe she can help you. She and I are connected through the Aldinger family our great grandfathers were brothers. Kaye

Kaye, Do you have any more on the family of William E. Arnold and Ida Lerew? I am working on a Lerew book and would be interested in any additional information that you could provide. Thanks! Don Lerew DLerew@messiah.edu >>> CEHAUGHEE@aol.com 03/29/04 11:29PM >>> I Have sent on to the girl with the Arnold family all of your emails rather then giving out her email without permission and I will post what I have on the Arnold family that connected to my Aldinger family. In reading todays mail I would say you are all making good progress. I think what I have is a later date then what you are showing. Here is what I have. Mary Magdalena Aldinger b. 11-30-1857 d. 8-01-1877 married George William Arnold. b. 9-8-1855 children: Medora L. 3-6-1878 d. 8-21-1904 John A. F. 2-4-1880 d. 4-23-1905 William E. 6-29-1882 d. 2-3-1907 Anne Mary 9-23-1884 James 5-23-1886 d. 3-26-1911 George D. 12-30-1888 d. 5-4-1913 Edna Ella 6-11-1891 d. 3-16-1931 Almena Leona 5-31-1896 d. 12-11-1920 Benjamin F. 5-16-1900 Infant son 9-22-1904 Medora L. Arnold married John E Stauffer Children: Esther b. 3-29-1905 John A.F. Arnold married Emma Lehman children: Arthur b. 8-14-1907 Anna b. 4-9-1911 William E. Arnold married Ida Lerew Children: Carl O. b. 8-5-1908 Steward E. 2-2-1910 Laura E. 5-13-1912 Louise J. 4-16-1914 William A. 7-25-1815 Sterling W. 8-24-1918 Earl E. 10-14-1919 James Arnold married Jeanette Enders children: Lawrence M. 12-26-1911 Raymond O. 3-5-1913 Wilford A. 11-9-1914 Paul E. 1-16-1917 Elizabeth G. 5-24-1925 George D. Arnold married Anna Siple Children: George D. Jr. 11-10-1913 Daisy 11-22-1915 Orlee 6-6-1918 Leona 9-3-1920 Frances 10-7-1923 Mary 4-19-1925 Almena Leona Arnold married Ralph Cousal That ends the Arnolds that I have and it goes back to Aldinger's. I hope it is useful to some of you. Kaye ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi, again, Nancy: This looks like it might be Mannie with her family in 1920: Mill Road, 6-DIST, Baltimore Co., MD - 1/21&27/1920 - MD x 3 for all Alban, William H. - head - own/mortgaged - m - w - 56 - married - farmer/general farm -------- Ida C. - wife - f - w - 47 - married -------- Mannie B. - daughter - f - w - 17 - single -------- Roland - son - m - w - 15 - single -------- Claude - son - 12 - single -------- Burton B. - son - m - w - 10 - single -------- Grace M. - daughter - f - w - 6 - single -------- Arthur B. - son - m - w - 3y10m - single -------- Raymond B. - son - m - w - 10m - single ...in 1910: 5-DIST, Baltimore Co., MD - 5/2/1910 - MD x 3 for all Alban, William - head - m - w - 43 - 1st marriage/15 yrs. - farmer/general farm -------- Ida - wife - f - w - 37 - 1st marriage/15 yrs. - 7 children/5 living -------- Corbet - son - m - w - 14 - single -------- Marie - daughter - f - w - 10 - single -------- Manie - daughter - f - w - 7 - single -------- Roland - son - m - w - 6 - single -------- Edmund - m - w - 4 - single next door: Alban, George - head - m - w - 42 - 1st marriage/23 yrs. - farmer/general farm -------- Eliza V. - wife - f - w - 40 - 1st marriage/23 yrs - 5 children/2 living -------- Bertha B. - daughter - f - w - 19 - single -------- Katie P. - daughter - f - w - 17 - single Would you like copies of these pages? I can email them to you. Good luck with your search. Debra On Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004, at 00:16 US/Eastern, jan1940 wrote: > I would be thankful for a census look up for > Ezra Ehrhart Wagner born 12 / 31 /1903 > Married 4 / 2 / 1925 to > Mannie Belle Alban born 10 / 16 / 1902 > I think they may have lived in New Freedom York County PA. This is > just a guess > I think Mannie may have cared for her brother His name was Arthur > Alban > Thank You > Nancy > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 3/31/04 12:16:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: Ezra Ehrhart Wagner born 12 / 31 /1903 Married 4 / 2 / 1925 to Mannie Belle Alban born 10 / 16 / 1902 I think they may have lived in New Freedom York County PA. This is just a guess Year: 1930; Census Place: New Freedom, York, Pennsylvania; Roll: T626_2165; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 50; line 55 DN17 FN 18 WAGNER , EZRA E, Head, Rent $15, 26 M 21 born in MARYLAND, father MARYLAND, mother PA, Polisher Insulation factory, not a veteran. line 56 Wagner, Mannie B wife, 27 M 22, Maryland Maryland Maryland seamstress sewing factory line 57 Alban Berton B Brother in law, 18 S , Maryland Maryland Maryland, driller, insulation factory. line 58 same dwelling FN19 REHMEYER, HERBERT C., Head, R $15 28 M 22 PA PA PA , press runner Insulation factory line 59 " , Helen E , wife 24, M 18, PA, MD, PA none line 60 ", Wilbur A , son 6. S PA PA PA Hope this helps you.