I think it was 1870 and it just said Mary housekeeper It may have been Anna Mary but I don't know. As I said Fredericks first wife died 1866 and I think a daughter was born to him and 1st wife in 1865 so he would have needed someone to care for the child Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don High" <drhigh@netins.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Nancy, > Rinchart was the first name given. It's possible that it was Reinhold. > I need to look at the actual census image. I'll try and do that later on > today when I have a few free moments. What year was it that you said Anna > Mary was listed as a housekeeper in the home of Koerner? > > Debra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > Debra > > Do you think, Rinchart is a first or last name, and do you think it could > be > > the same as Reinhold? when I went to York Pa last fall and in a folder I > > found a small paper with ( Koerner Lizzie Marshal Reinhold May 23 rd Rev > > Ketterman Hanover Herald June 2 1883) since you sent this information I'm > > wondering if there is a connection The name I'm asking about Is Anna Mary > > I now know Frederick J Koerner Married to Anna Mary Witzel from their son > > John's death Certificate, Now I'm wondering if Witzel was her maiden name > or > > she was married before > > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Debra High" <debra@javacoded.com> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > > > > Nancy, > > > In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, > Sarah > > > and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of > > Henry > > > Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in > Germany. > > > In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age > > 30) > > > in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index > > > there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have > the > > > correct spelling. > > > Let me know if you would like further information. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Debra > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM > > > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > > > > > > > Dear list members > > > > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the > name > > > > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > > > > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that > > surname > > > is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his > > Mothers > > > maiden name > > > > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but > > could > > > never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " > > > Korner Kerner > > > > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's > > first > > > wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby > girl > > , > > > He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > > > > Thank you for any help > > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I have Hutchin's and Shaw's that show up in Harford County, MD.1800-1840. I have a suspition that they may have slide back and forth across the border between York County, PA and Harford County, MD. Anyone else searching these surnames in this area? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Constance Callaway cecall@earthlink.net

Debra Do you think, Rinchart is a first or last name, and do you think it could be the same as Reinhold? when I went to York Pa last fall and in a folder I found a small paper with ( Koerner Lizzie Marshal Reinhold May 23 rd Rev Ketterman Hanover Herald June 2 1883) since you sent this information I'm wondering if there is a connection The name I'm asking about Is Anna Mary I now know Frederick J Koerner Married to Anna Mary Witzel from their son John's death Certificate, Now I'm wondering if Witzel was her maiden name or she was married before Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra High" <debra@javacoded.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Nancy, > In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, Sarah > and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of Henry > Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in Germany. > In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age 30) > in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index > there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have the > correct spelling. > Let me know if you would like further information. > > Sincerely, > Debra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > Dear list members > > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name > > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that surname > is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his Mothers > maiden name > > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but could > never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " > Korner Kerner > > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's first > wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl , > He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > > Thank you for any help > > Nancy > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.]

Nancy, Rinchart was the first name given. It's possible that it was Reinhold. I need to look at the actual census image. I'll try and do that later on today when I have a few free moments. What year was it that you said Anna Mary was listed as a housekeeper in the home of Koerner? Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Debra > Do you think, Rinchart is a first or last name, and do you think it could be > the same as Reinhold? when I went to York Pa last fall and in a folder I > found a small paper with ( Koerner Lizzie Marshal Reinhold May 23 rd Rev > Ketterman Hanover Herald June 2 1883) since you sent this information I'm > wondering if there is a connection The name I'm asking about Is Anna Mary > I now know Frederick J Koerner Married to Anna Mary Witzel from their son > John's death Certificate, Now I'm wondering if Witzel was her maiden name or > she was married before > Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debra High" <debra@javacoded.com> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > Nancy, > > In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, Sarah > > and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of > Henry > > Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in Germany. > > In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age > 30) > > in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index > > there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have the > > correct spelling. > > Let me know if you would like further information. > > > > Sincerely, > > Debra > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM > > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > > > > Dear list members > > > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name > > > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > > > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that > surname > > is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his > Mothers > > maiden name > > > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but > could > > never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " > > Korner Kerner > > > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's > first > > wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl > , > > He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > > > Thank you for any help > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Northumberland County is almost due north of the Cities of York and Harrisburg, past the mountains, I believe. Harold in Florida

Thank you Debra; Researching Hanna, Brady, Crawford, Hamilton, Cassidy Hicks and Harris Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Kohler<mailto:dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Re: Local Research-Monaghan Twp. Hi, Bill: The York Archives might be worth a visit. To give you an idea of the records available there, here is their website address: www.york-county.org<http://www.york-county.org/> To get to the Archives on this site: tap on "Departments." Good luck with your search! Debra

Hi, Bill: The York Archives might be worth a visit. To give you an idea of the records available there, here is their website address: www.york-county.org To get to the Archives on this site: tap on "Departments." Good luck with your search! Debra On Sunday, Apr 4, 2004, at 13:36 US/Eastern, bill harris wrote: > > I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can anyone > help me as to the best place to start? I am researching Patrick > Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. > Any suggustions would be most appreciated. > Bill Harris > billdharris@msn.com > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Thank you. Bill Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: Indie & Mike Shepp<mailto:imshepp@pa.net> To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Re: Local Research-Monaghan Twp. The York County Historical Society can be of help to you, I am sure. Indie Shepp ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill harris" <billdharris@msn.com<mailto:billdharris@msn.com>> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Re: Local Research-Monaghan Twp. > > I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can anyone > help me as to the best place to start? I am researching Patrick > Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. > Any suggustions would be most appreciated. > Bill Harris > billdharris@msn.com<mailto:billdharris@msn.com>

Liz: Thank you for the information. My lines are Hanna, Brady, Crawford Hamilton, Cassidy, Hicks, Harris and Looney. bill Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: LWhite8470@aol.com<mailto:LWhite8470@aol.com> To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Re: Local Research-Monaghan Twp. Bill, One good place to start is the York County Heritage Trust (formerly the Historical Society) at 250 E. Market St., York. I am told that the Hanover Public Library, on the York-Adams County line on Rt.116, between York and Gettsburg is also very good. Liz

In a message dated 4/4/04 6:41:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: Do you know where Northumberland county is ? I can't find it Northumberland Co. PA goes from the EAST bank of the Susquehanna River to just East of Mount Carmel. It is the first county north of DAUPHIN County and also North and west of SCHUYLKILL Co. Large towns/cities in NORTHUMBERLAND Co are Northumberland, Sunbury, SHAMOKIN, Mount Carmel. Hope this helps you. Ginny Reed

Debra Thank you Anna Mary Witzel was born 1842 and came from Germany I don't know if she was married before she married my grate grandfather or if she came from Germany with her parents Frederick Koerner lived In Manhelm township York County I was trying to see if there were witzel's close to or in Manhelm township, that she went to be housekeeper. Do you know where Northumberland county is ? I can't find it Deepest Thanks Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra High" <debra@javacoded.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Nancy, > In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, Sarah > and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of Henry > Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in Germany. > In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age 30) > in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index > there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have the > correct spelling. > Let me know if you would like further information. > > Sincerely, > Debra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > Dear list members > > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name > > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that surname > is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his Mothers > maiden name > > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but could > never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " > Korner Kerner > > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's first > wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl , > He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > > Thank you for any help > > Nancy > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.]

Nancy, I forgot to mention that Rinchart (I'm wondering now if this was supposed to be Rinhart-I was going by the index) and Mary Witzel were in Manheim Twnship in York. Mary was 28 in 1870. Is this your Mary or did you say she was a housekeeper in the home of the man you mentioned? There's a map on Pennsylvania Gen Web which shows where all the counties are, but for some reason I could not get onto that website just now. Let me know if I can look up anything else for you. Sincerely, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Debra > Thank you > Anna Mary Witzel was born 1842 and came from Germany > I don't know if she was married before she married my grate grandfather or > if she came from Germany with her parents > Frederick Koerner lived In Manhelm township York County > I was trying to see if there were witzel's close to or in Manhelm township, > that she went to be housekeeper. > Do you know where Northumberland county is ? I can't find it > Deepest Thanks > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debra High" <debra@javacoded.com> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > Nancy, > > In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, Sarah > > and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of > Henry > > Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in Germany. > > In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age > 30) > > in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index > > there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have the > > correct spelling. > > Let me know if you would like further information. > > > > Sincerely, > > Debra > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM > > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > > > > > > > Dear list members > > > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name > > > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > > > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that > surname > > is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his > Mothers > > maiden name > > > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but > could > > never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " > > Korner Kerner > > > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's > first > > wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl > , > > He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > > > Thank you for any help > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Bill, One good place to start is the York County Heritage Trust (formerly the Historical Society) at 250 E. Market St., York. I am told that the Hanover Public Library, on the York-Adams County line on Rt.116, between York and Gettsburg is also very good. Liz

I'm very much interested in this information also, although my trip will be in August. Where are records kept for that part of York Co. that is now Adams Co? It was York Co. when my ancestors lived there. James McMaster came to York Co. from Lancaster Co. in the early 1740's, and died in the early 1790's. Kay On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 13:36:14 -0400 "bill harris" <billdharris@msn.com> writes: > > I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can > anyone > help me as to the best place to start? I am researching > Patrick > Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. > Any suggustions would be most appreciated. > Bill Harris > billdharris@msn.com > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Nancy, In 1870 York Co. I find the following WITZELS: Rinchart, Mary, Sarah and Cathrine (she was either living alone or residing in the house of Henry Schriner). Rinchart and Mary were married and were both born in Germany. In 1860 I find Nancy, David and Rebecca. There's a Mary A. Witzel (age 30) in Northumberland County. If you look for the name Witzel in the index there were quite a few with that name. So it would seem that you have the correct spelling. Let me know if you would like further information. Sincerely, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Witzel York County > Dear list members > I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name > Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 > The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that surname is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his Mothers maiden name > I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but could never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " Korner Kerner > she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's first wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl , He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. > Thank you for any help > Nancy > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Dear list members I would appreciate if some one could do a census look up for the name Witzel in York county PA in 1860, 1870 The reason for only listing a last name I'm trying to find if that surname is spelled right on my grate grand Uncle's death certificate as his Mothers maiden name I have records stating my grate grandmother's name was Anna Mary but could never find a maiden name till now His name was "Frederick J Koerner " Korner Kerner she is listed in 1870 as house keeper after my grate grandfather's first wife died His first wife may have died after she gave birth to a baby girl , He then married her and they then lived in Carroll County Md. Thank you for any help Nancy

In a message dated 4/4/2004 11:36:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, billdharris@msn.com writes: I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can anyone help me as to the best place to start? I am researching Patrick Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. Any suggustions would be most appreciated. Bill Harris billdharris@msn.com > < Start at York Heritage Trust on Market Street in York. Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/familyhart/ Administrators for the following lists at Rootsweb: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Sturm

The York County Historical Society can be of help to you, I am sure. Indie Shepp ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill harris" <billdharris@msn.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Re: Local Research-Monaghan Twp. > > I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can anyone > help me as to the best place to start? I am researching Patrick > Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. > Any suggustions would be most appreciated. > Bill Harris > billdharris@msn.com > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am planning a research trip to York Co. next month. Can anyone help me as to the best place to start? I am researching Patrick Hanna who died in Monaghan Twp. in 1758. Any suggustions would be most appreciated. Bill Harris billdharris@msn.com

Hi Kathy, Official records are those that relate to securing land from the colony (and later the commonwealth) of PA. It's a five-fold process: application, warrant, survey, application for a patent, issuance of a patent. Unofficial records related to buying and selling the land via deed or other paper of transfer. Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy T" <elsapo89@hotmail.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > Hello Dr. Hivley: > > Would you be so kind as to explain the unofficial process of owning land in > the area at that time period? > > Kathy Turner Thompson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neal O. Hively" <hively@innernet.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > > > > Hi Kaye, > > The York County Heritage Trust (and I) have copies of ALL the maps. > > George McCann is something of a mystery. I know he's there somewhere but > my > > "official" PA records don't show him involved in the five-fold acquisition > > process. Some of the York County deeds may give a more complete picture, > but > > to be clear - I do not show EVERY owner through the colonial period, only > > those involved in the official process. > > Neal > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <CEHAUGHEE@aol.com> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] John Miller of York Co.PA > > > > > > > Hello Dr. Hivley: On the maps that you have, are they the same maps > > showing > > > the shape of the land with the names of the people on them? I have one > on > > > John Griffith for Hopp Land that I got at the society. I have a slice > of > > land > > > for George McCann that borders Abraham Householder and John Walker and > > then > > > other George McCann land. I have the survey of the sliver of land for > > George > > > McCann dated in 1811. I would love to get the map showing the other > > George McCann > > > land. Would you have that? These are all in Hopewell Township. I find > > that > > > that this George McCann is married to Martha Griffith daughter of John > > > Griffith and Martha Smith who is daughter of John Smith. John Smith's > > land borders > > > Hopp Yard. I still have not figured where George McCann's land is. I > want > > to > > > order the book on Hopewell I think but want to know about the maps > first. > > > Thanks for your time. Kaye > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > > Project at: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >