Hi Nancy: what was your g-grandfather's name? Is it possible that there were two fellas with the same name in York County? In my case, there were two William Morris' that filed within a short timeframe---could it be two different men? Another theory - maybe "they" found he didn't wait long enough the first time and had to apply again??? Holly -----Original Message----- From: jan1940 <jan1940@wpa.net> To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:13 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] PAYorkGEN] Intention >Good Morning list >My question about My G-grandfather applying for His "Intention" in 1860 and again in 1861 seam's to have taken on another life. one answer was that maybe he was taken in to the Civil War. But that dose not tell me why he applied two times. >If one did not need to be an American Citizen to be in the Civil War >And I don't have any information that he was in the War What other reason would there be for him to apply two times >Thanks >Nancy > > >==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== >No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Joan my command of history is not the greatest but since so many wars have been fought with mercenaries from other countries and sent to even different countries like our Revolutionary War speaking English or the language of the country is not needed as long as those in charge can get their orders understood. Believe me talk to any WW1 veteran and learn that their not knowing or understanding French did not keep them from fighting in that war but it did get a lot killed because of not understanding key words. Of course there are no veterans left anymore from that war. In battle you are not always under the command of your own forces.

In a message dated 8/24/2004 6:09:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: That being said. How would someone serve in the Civil War who could not, speak, read, write, or understand English ? Nancy --- Nancy- In some cases there were entire companies of Irish or German immigrants and probably other nationalities as well. They learned quickly. There were plenty of English speaking American soldiers who couldn't read or write in any language. Joan

That being said. How would someone serve in the Civil War who could not, speak, read, write, or understand English ? Nancy No--many non-citizens fought in the American Civil War. The main reasons for becoming a naturalized citizen were so that one could vote and/or hold political office, or own land. Joan

Hi again; Tnx for the info. . Do u have any info. on Daniel it seems to have been a popular name I show one born to Diedrich and Elizabeth June 13 1807 and then Adams son born Jan 1806 both married Margarets do u know where these two are buried and which is which ? Tnx for ur help in this. Chas Rupert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eppley" <eppley@verizon.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Ruppert Family > Johan Adam Ruppert born 1706 was married to Anna Barbara Holtzappfel born 1707. Father of Johan Adam was Adam Ruppert born about 1680 and married to Magdalena Ritter born 1684. Father of Adam Ruppert was Phillipp Ludwig Ruppert born 1610 married to Barbara Knaur born 1614-1616. I realize there is a great time span here and have checked and rechecked and still come up with the same names. I think the birthdate for Adam Ruppert born about 1680 must be off about 20 years and he may have been born about 1660 and the 6 read as an 8 in some of the old and faded records. The father of Phillipp ws Hans Ruppert born 1584 and married to Elizabetha. > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

on 8/24/04 9:00 AM, PA-YORK-GEN-D-request@rootsweb.com at PA-YORK-GEN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > PA-YORK-GEN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 74 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Ruppert Family ["Eppley" <eppley@verizon.net>] > #2 Intention ["jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net>] > #3 Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention [R455OCKIT@aol.com] > #4 Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention ["jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net>] > #5 Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention [CEHAUGHEE@aol.com] > #6 Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention [JYoung6180@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from PA-YORK-GEN-D, send a message to > > PA-YORK-GEN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the PA-YORK-GEN-D list administrator, send mail to > PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > From: "Eppley" <eppley@verizon.net> > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:46 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Ruppert Family > > Johan Adam Ruppert born 1706 was married to Anna Barbara Holtzappfel born > 1707. Father of Johan Adam was Adam Ruppert born about 1680 and married to > Magdalena Ritter born 1684. Father of Adam Ruppert was Phillipp Ludwig Ruppert > born 1610 married to Barbara Knaur born 1614-1616. I realize there is a great > time span here and have checked and rechecked and still come up with the same > names. I think the birthdate for Adam Ruppert born about 1680 must be off > about 20 years and he may have been born about 1660 and the 6 read as an 8 in > some of the old and faded records. The father of Phillipp ws Hans Ruppert born > 1584 and married to Elizabetha. > > ______________________________ > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:04 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Intention > > Good Evening List > My G-Grandfather filed his intention in 11/ 4 / 1860 and then again 11/4/1861 > in York Pa. I have both copy's and his Naturalization papers 10 / 9 / 1863 > I only have one clue to the year he came to USA from the 1900 census, it > states 1851 > What would be some reasons for filing for his intention in 1860 and then > again 1861? > Thanks for any input > Nancy > > ______________________________ > From: R455OCKIT@aol.com > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:55 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention > > just a guess....to become a citizen to enable him to join the military for > the civil war. > chuck > > ______________________________ > From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:14 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention > > Chuck > I understand what your saying > But if that were so why would he have had to apply again and he would have to > been a Citizen to join the war and he wasn't till 1863 > I was thinking that maybe in 1860 he didn't have his 5 years in the USA, if it > was still law in PA that he had to be here 5 years before he could file > intention to become a citizen > I'm just digging > Nancy > > -------Original Message------- > > From: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Date: 08/23/04 22:01:55 > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention > > just a guess....to become a citizen to enable him to join the military for > the civil war. > chuck > > ______________________________ > From: CEHAUGHEE@aol.com > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:25 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention > > Was that a rule in the Civil War to have to be a citizen? Sure wasn't in WW2 > when lots were drafted who were not citizens but lived here. > > ______________________________ > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Date: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:46 PM > To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention > > > In a message dated 8/23/2004 11:26:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, > CEHAUGHEE@aol.com writes: > > Was that a rule in the Civil War to have to be a citizen? > > > --- > No--many non-citizens fought in the American Civil War. The main reasons > for becoming a naturalized citizen were so that one could vote and/or hold > political office, or own land. > > Joan > In some of my research, and now that time has passed, I have forgotten exactly how it goes, but something to the effect that they had to be a resident for a certain length of time before naturalization was granted. This could possibly be why he filed his intent twice. Sheila

In a message dated 8/23/2004 11:26:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, CEHAUGHEE@aol.com writes: Was that a rule in the Civil War to have to be a citizen? --- No--many non-citizens fought in the American Civil War. The main reasons for becoming a naturalized citizen were so that one could vote and/or hold political office, or own land. Joan

Was that a rule in the Civil War to have to be a citizen? Sure wasn't in WW2 when lots were drafted who were not citizens but lived here.

Chuck I understand what your saying But if that were so why would he have had to apply again and he would have to been a Citizen to join the war and he wasn't till 1863 I was thinking that maybe in 1860 he didn't have his 5 years in the USA, if it was still law in PA that he had to be here 5 years before he could file intention to become a citizen I'm just digging Nancy -------Original Message------- From: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Date: 08/23/04 22:01:55 To: PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Intention just a guess....to become a citizen to enable him to join the military for the civil war. chuck

just a guess....to become a citizen to enable him to join the military for the civil war. chuck

Good Evening List My G-Grandfather filed his intention in 11/ 4 / 1860 and then again 11/4/1861 in York Pa. I have both copy's and his Naturalization papers 10 / 9 / 1863 I only have one clue to the year he came to USA from the 1900 census, it states 1851 What would be some reasons for filing for his intention in 1860 and then again 1861? Thanks for any input Nancy

Johan Adam Ruppert born 1706 was married to Anna Barbara Holtzappfel born 1707. Father of Johan Adam was Adam Ruppert born about 1680 and married to Magdalena Ritter born 1684. Father of Adam Ruppert was Phillipp Ludwig Ruppert born 1610 married to Barbara Knaur born 1614-1616. I realize there is a great time span here and have checked and rechecked and still come up with the same names. I think the birthdate for Adam Ruppert born about 1680 must be off about 20 years and he may have been born about 1660 and the 6 read as an 8 in some of the old and faded records. The father of Phillipp ws Hans Ruppert born 1584 and married to Elizabetha.

Looking for info on John VanNest or VanNess in York county---Dillsville 1800 to 1830 leaving for Wayne county Ohio.

Yes it would be helpful as getting mixed up about dates and names. Tnx. Chas Rupert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eppley" <eppley@verizon.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Rupert/Holtzapfel > Anna Barbara Holtzapfel m to Johan Adam Ruppert was the daughter of John > Leonard Holtzapfel and Anna Barbara Katerman. The father of John Leonard was > Jacob Holtzapfel born abt 1657 and married to Anna Marie Margaretha Kleine > born 1658. I have more on the Rupperts if you want it > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mdrupert" <mdrupert@eastex.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:39 AM > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Rupert/Holtzapfel > > > > Hi; > > Have a Q or two > > > > 1. Anna Barbara Holtzapfel w/o John Adam Rupert was she the daughter of > Johan Lenhart of Hans Leonhard . Ref : York Archives Descendant Charts > > > > 2. Erasmus s/o Eramus married a Elizabeth Messenheimer in 1797 how many > childern did they have and did she married a Dieterich Rupert Ref: York > Archives Descendant Charts > > > > Tnx > > > > Chas Rupert > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an > e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Anna Barbara Holtzapfel m to Johan Adam Ruppert was the daughter of John Leonard Holtzapfel and Anna Barbara Katerman. The father of John Leonard was Jacob Holtzapfel born abt 1657 and married to Anna Marie Margaretha Kleine born 1658. I have more on the Rupperts if you want it ----- Original Message ----- From: "mdrupert" <mdrupert@eastex.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Rupert/Holtzapfel > Hi; > Have a Q or two > > 1. Anna Barbara Holtzapfel w/o John Adam Rupert was she the daughter of Johan Lenhart of Hans Leonhard . Ref : York Archives Descendant Charts > > 2. Erasmus s/o Eramus married a Elizabeth Messenheimer in 1797 how many childern did they have and did she married a Dieterich Rupert Ref: York Archives Descendant Charts > > Tnx > > Chas Rupert > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PA-YORK-GEN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Agnes Thompson's parents are Archibald Thompson born about 1710 died about 1768. He came here from Perthshire, Scotland. He was married to Margaret Wallace, born about 1729. She too came here from Perthshire Scotland. Archibald and Margaret's father, Alexander Wallace were founding fathers of the Guinston Presbyterian Church in Brogue, PA. I have much more on these families if you are interested. Joy Gable, lou-joy@suscom.net York, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonia Hillman" <soniaminton@earthlink.net> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: FW: RE: [PAYorkGEN] Arthurs, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of York County PA 1800's > > > Sonia Hillman > soniaminton@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Sonia Hillman <soniaminton@earthlink.net> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 8/19/2004 10:15:37 AM > > Subject: RE: [PAYorkGEN] Arthurs, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses > of York County PA 1800's > > > > I have John Collins, d.6/1/1842 married Mary Margaret Gemmil and their > > children James b.1787, John b. 1795, William b.1798 and possibly David, > > Samuel, Robert Alexander, Cornelius, Mary Margaret, Grace, Mary Jane Ann, > > Jenny,and Alexander. John's brother Samuel Collins b.1753 married Agnas > > Thompson on November 11, 1787 and their children were: William, John > > b.1792, Archibald, Samuel, Margaret. Are these the ones you are looking > > for? Sonia > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: <la203@bellsouth.net> > > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 8/12/2004 9:01:02 AM > > > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Arthur, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of > > York County PA 1800's > > > > > > Seeking information on these families. Would love to share information. > > > > > > arlene in Georgia > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > > Project at: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi; Have a Q or two 1. Anna Barbara Holtzapfel w/o John Adam Rupert was she the daughter of Johan Lenhart of Hans Leonhard . Ref : York Archives Descendant Charts 2. Erasmus s/o Eramus married a Elizabeth Messenheimer in 1797 how many childern did they have and did she married a Dieterich Rupert Ref: York Archives Descendant Charts Tnx Chas Rupert

Sonia Hillman soniaminton@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Sonia Hillman <soniaminton@earthlink.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/19/2004 10:15:37 AM > Subject: RE: [PAYorkGEN] Arthurs, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of York County PA 1800's > > I have John Collins, d.6/1/1842 married Mary Margaret Gemmil and their > children James b.1787, John b. 1795, William b.1798 and possibly David, > Samuel, Robert Alexander, Cornelius, Mary Margaret, Grace, Mary Jane Ann, > Jenny,and Alexander. John's brother Samuel Collins b.1753 married Agnas > Thompson on November 11, 1787 and their children were: William, John > b.1792, Archibald, Samuel, Margaret. Are these the ones you are looking > for? Sonia > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <la203@bellsouth.net> > > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 8/12/2004 9:01:02 AM > > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Arthur, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of > York County PA 1800's > > > > Seeking information on these families. Would love to share information. > > > > arlene in Georgia > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > Project at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have John Collins, d.6/1/1842 married Mary Margaret Gemmil and their children James b.1787, John b. 1795, William b.1798 and possibly David, Samuel, Robert Alexander, Cornelius, Mary Margaret, Grace, Mary Jane Ann, Jenny,and Alexander. John's brother Samuel Collins b.1753 married Agnas Thompson on November 11, 1787 and their children were: William, John b.1792, Archibald, Samuel, Margaret. Are these the ones you are looking for? Sonia > [Original Message] > From: <la203@bellsouth.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 8/12/2004 9:01:02 AM > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Arthur, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of York County PA 1800's > > Seeking information on these families. Would love to share information. > > arlene in Georgia > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

What Thompsons of York County ----- Original Message ----- From: "IGS Knives" <info@igsknives.com> To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Arthurs, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of York County PA 1800's > What Blouses in York Co? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <la203@bellsouth.net> > To: <PA-YORK-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:59 AM > Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Arthurs, Gemmills, Thompsons, Jordans, Blouses of York > County PA 1800's > > > > Seeking information on these families. Would love to share information. > > > > arlene in Georgia > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB > Project at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >