I have a different Samuel Burns who was born 12 Mar 1770 in Westmoreland County, PA, of Scots-Ir9ish parents. He had brothers James, John and William. He was married in 1792 to Jane Liggett, daughter of my Patrick Liggett and Jane Yost. Jane Yost was born in Yorik County, PA. I know little else that might help you. At 08:30 PM 3/16/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hello, list! I'm completely new to PA genealogy, so I'm hoping some of >you kind folks will point me in the right direction(s). I'm looking for >information on my gggg/grandfather Samuel Burns. He was born Sept. 17, >1754, in York Co., PA. This is from his Rev. War pension file. There >is also an IGI listing on familysearch.org, giving same birthdate, and >father's name William. By sometime in the 1770's, Samuel was in York >Co., SC, where he spent the rest of his life. Whether he went there >alone, or with some or all of his family, I don't know. He, his wife, >and some descendants are buried in a Presbyterian churchyard. >So my questions are these: (1) anyone else out there looking for >Samuel? (2) where are the best places for me to start looking, either >internet or by mail, for possible info? Are there tax lists? Church >records? >Thanks for any info/advice/etc. >Nan Lambert > > >==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== >Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ -- Harry Liggett in Akron, OH E-mail: [email protected] Tel: 330-724-5808 Surnames: LIGGETT, BILDERBACK, BRUCE, BURGETT, COTTER, COUCH, DENNING, FENTON, GOURLEY, HAMILTON, McDONALD, PENN, PRESTON, PYLES, SHIPLEY, STACKHOUSE, YOST.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Liggett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] BURNS, & request for advice > I have a different Samuel Burns who was born 12 Mar 1770 in > Westmoreland County, PA, of Scots-Ir9ish parents. He had brothers James, > John and William. He was married in 1792 to Jane Liggett, daughter of my > Patrick Liggett and Jane Yost. Jane Yost was born in Yorik County, PA. I > know little else that might help you. > > > > > At 08:30 PM 3/16/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Hello, list! I'm completely new to PA genealogy, so I'm hoping some of > >you kind folks will point me in the right direction(s). I'm looking for > >information on my gggg/grandfather Samuel Burns. He was born Sept. 17, > >1754, in York Co., PA. This is from his Rev. War pension file. There > >is also an IGI listing on familysearch.org, giving same birthdate, and > >father's name William. By sometime in the 1770's, Samuel was in York > >Co., SC, where he spent the rest of his life. Whether he went there > >alone, or with some or all of his family, I don't know. He, his wife, > >and some descendants are buried in a Presbyterian churchyard. > >So my questions are these: (1) anyone else out there looking for > >Samuel? (2) where are the best places for me to start looking, either > >internet or by mail, for possible info? Are there tax lists? Church > >records? > >Thanks for any info/advice/etc. > >Nan Lambert > > > > > >==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > >Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > >============================== > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > -- > Harry Liggett in Akron, OH E-mail: [email protected] Tel: 330-724-5808 > Surnames: LIGGETT, BILDERBACK, BRUCE, BURGETT, COTTER, COUCH, > DENNING, FENTON, GOURLEY, HAMILTON, McDONALD, PENN, PRESTON, > PYLES, SHIPLEY, STACKHOUSE, YOST. > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Don -- Thank you! That certainly fits on dates, if Samuel was eldest. And he named one of his daughters Margaret, and at least one of his granddaughters was also Margaret. Thanks again, Nan

One record that might fit . St Mathews Luthern church. date not given but apparently between Aug 20 and September 8 1753. "William Burns with Marg. Wassons on a license from the Gov." Nan Lambert wrote: > Hello, list! I'm completely new to PA genealogy, so I'm hoping some of > you kind folks will point me in the right direction(s). I'm looking for > information on my gggg/grandfather Samuel Burns. He was born Sept. 17, > 1754, in York Co., PA. This is from his Rev. War pension file. There > is also an IGI listing on familysearch.org, giving same birthdate, and > father's name William. By sometime in the 1770's, Samuel was in York > Co., SC, where he spent the rest of his life. Whether he went there > alone, or with some or all of his family, I don't know. He, his wife, > and some descendants are buried in a Presbyterian churchyard. > So my questions are these: (1) anyone else out there looking for > Samuel? (2) where are the best places for me to start looking, either > internet or by mail, for possible info? Are there tax lists? Church > records? > Thanks for any info/advice/etc. > Nan Lambert > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Hello, list! I'm completely new to PA genealogy, so I'm hoping some of you kind folks will point me in the right direction(s). I'm looking for information on my gggg/grandfather Samuel Burns. He was born Sept. 17, 1754, in York Co., PA. This is from his Rev. War pension file. There is also an IGI listing on familysearch.org, giving same birthdate, and father's name William. By sometime in the 1770's, Samuel was in York Co., SC, where he spent the rest of his life. Whether he went there alone, or with some or all of his family, I don't know. He, his wife, and some descendants are buried in a Presbyterian churchyard. So my questions are these: (1) anyone else out there looking for Samuel? (2) where are the best places for me to start looking, either internet or by mail, for possible info? Are there tax lists? Church records? Thanks for any info/advice/etc. Nan Lambert

Letty, This book was published in 1886, so the more current info isn't available. What I did find was as follows: William and Lewis WAMBAUGH , and John and John H WANBAUGH in the Civil War. Catherine WANBAUGH married to Alexander LOUCKS 5 Feb 1867. She was daughter of John and Mary WANBAUGH. Further there are other references to the LOUCKS-WAMBAUGH connection. You may wish to see if any LOUCKS researchers have a WAM/WANBAUGH connection. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Wambaugh, Shultz -York Cty. Lookups > Hi: > I have been seeing the flurry of look-up requests and could use > some help if you can. You are all so wonderful to do this, I can't > believe it. > > Could you look up: > > Albert William Wambaugh born June 25, 1872 in York > He died Sept. 04, 1942. He was married to Clara A. Shultz on > February 05, 1890 in York County. She was born August 12, 1872 > and died Oct. 12, 1935. Albert is buried in Longstown Cemetery in > York. > > He owned "A.W. Wambaugh, Cheap Cash Grocery" somewhere in > York and they lived above the store. > > Albert is my husbands great grandfather and we have no > information on his or her siblings, parents or ancestors. It is > possible he is in the line of Georg Wanbach III (Nancy Bannister's > line) and his father's name may have been Jacob R. Wambaugh - > in Springgarden Township(?). > > My husband's grandfather was George Washington Wambaugh > born in York on June 19, 1890. He married Ann Julia Hunt who > was from Parkton, Maryland. George in his early years lived at 705 > E. Prospect St., York. > > Thanks for any input or help. Your efforts are wonderful "random > acts of kindness." Any info on the Wambaughs, Wanbachs or > Shultz's is greatly appreciated. > > Letty Wambaugh > [email protected] > Washington State > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/m/Letitia- > Wambaugh/ > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Mary, History of York County, PA 1886, Gibson page 578. Hanover. "On the 14th of April 1838, the residents of York Street presented a petition to the town council, asking for better pavements. Consequently, May 5, 1838, the council passed an ordinance, decreeing that all lot-holders on York Street from Dr Hinkle's (now Metzgers corner) to John Kroh's property (fourth lot beyond the third alley)..." And that's all the KROHs there all. Sorry, Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary E. Gain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Look Ups in York History > Hi Ray: > Could you please check George Ludwig Kroh m Christine ? born 1762 of York Co. she was his fourth wife. George Kroh lived in Hanover. His third wife was Anna Maria Schneider- anything on this family, children John Philip Kroh, Maria Gertrude Kroh, and Ludwig Kroh.all born 1796-1801 Thanks for all the good work. Mary > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Thanks, Ray, you have been great. I will research the Louchs/Wambaugh connection. Letty

WHAT! WHAT! SEIDENSTRICKER! I'm a Seidenstricker researcher. Henry from Dover... ???? Doneva Shepard in OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebekah Mellinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:58 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] York County, PA Seidenstickers > Try Wayde Seidensticker, an attorney in York, who has done his family research. > > He is an older gentleman; could possibly help you. > > Work address for Wayde: 55 S. Queen St., York, PA 17403 Phone: (717) 848-1234. > > Good luck! > R.M. > > Rebekah Mellinger > Penn State Cooperative Extension > 112 Pleasant Acres Road > York PA 17402-9041 > Phone: 717-840-7408 > FAX: 717-755-5968 > Email: [email protected] > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the Pennsylvania Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 >

Hi Ray: Could you please check George Ludwig Kroh m Christine ? born 1762 of York Co. she was his fourth wife. George Kroh lived in Hanover. His third wife was Anna Maria Schneider- anything on this family, children John Philip Kroh, Maria Gertrude Kroh, and Ludwig Kroh.all born 1796-1801 Thanks for all the good work. Mary

Hi: I have been seeing the flurry of look-up requests and could use some help if you can. You are all so wonderful to do this, I can't believe it. Could you look up: Albert William Wambaugh born June 25, 1872 in York He died Sept. 04, 1942. He was married to Clara A. Shultz on February 05, 1890 in York County. She was born August 12, 1872 and died Oct. 12, 1935. Albert is buried in Longstown Cemetery in York. He owned "A.W. Wambaugh, Cheap Cash Grocery" somewhere in York and they lived above the store. Albert is my husbands great grandfather and we have no information on his or her siblings, parents or ancestors. It is possible he is in the line of Georg Wanbach III (Nancy Bannister's line) and his father's name may have been Jacob R. Wambaugh - in Springgarden Township(?). My husband's grandfather was George Washington Wambaugh born in York on June 19, 1890. He married Ann Julia Hunt who was from Parkton, Maryland. George in his early years lived at 705 E. Prospect St., York. Thanks for any input or help. Your efforts are wonderful "random acts of kindness." Any info on the Wambaughs, Wanbachs or Shultz's is greatly appreciated. Letty Wambaugh [email protected] Washington State http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/m/Letitia- Wambaugh/

I am curious to whether anyone has come across the Groscost (Grosscost) family in any York County books as there should be birth and death records, as well as citizenship,christening and land ownership records. I would be interested in any names found. I appreciate any help at all. Thank you in advance. Bev Groscost

Dear Mary: I checked out the Zinn's in your information. Apparently, were are a different clan. Actually, it is the Lerew connection that I'm looking at. Thanks, Gene M. Zinn At 01:44 PM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Gene, >Although I don't know the origin of my Zinn's (a very peripheral branch >of the family), I do know that my direct ancestors and close relatives >were the early pioneers in Pa. You may want to check out my family tree. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=111748 > >Best Regards, > >Mary M. McCaslin >Surnames: McCaslin, Brown, Gray, Grey, Lowrie, Lowry, Lowery, Bradrick, >Cunningham, Harbison > >On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:34:40 -0600 Gene Zinn <[email protected]> >writes: > > Dear Sir: > > My great grandmother was Sarah Lerew, born February 2, 1824. She > > married my > > great grandfather, Jacob Zinn on April 15, 1842. The 1850 census > > places > > them in York County, Franklin twp. Jacob was born in York County. We > > have > > no information on her family. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Gene M Zinn > > > > At 03:30 PM 1/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >A few months ago I asked for help in locating a Joseph Sterner > > >(b. abt 1823 in PA). Since that time, I have found my Joseph > > Sterner. > > >He was baptised at St. David's (Sherman's) Ref. & Luth. Ch. in > > >W. Manheim Twp., York Co., PA. Below is the information that I > > >have found. Could anyone tell me anything more about my Joseph's > > >parents: John & Rachel Sterner. > > > > > >Joseph L. Sterner (b. 5 Sept. 1822 York Co., PA) > > > > > >Parents: > > >John STERNER (b. ?; d. bet 1846/1847 L. Dickinson Twp., > > > Cumberland Co., PA) > > >sp. Rachel (b. abt 1794 MD; d. aft 1860) > > > > > >I have found a John STERNER (b. 18 Jul 1799) and baptized > > >in St. David's church, but do not know if it is the same John. > > >Also, I would like to determine Rachel's maiden name. John's > > >ancestry may have been back into Maryland? > > > > > >Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > > >Don Lerew > > >[email protected] > > > > > > > > >==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > >Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > > >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > > >============================== > > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > >==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== >This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB >Project at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > >============================== >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Okay, Thanks. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [PAYorkGEN] Re: lookups in York Co., history > Thank-you so much Ray. I do not know if these names are related to the ones > that I am searching for but they have so many of the same similar names that > I will get the book on interlibrary loan. I will let you know what happens > after I check this out. > Darlene > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > This is the official list of the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Ray, Thank you very much for the lookup. It was very gracious of you. I really enjoy the results of the other lookups you've done for the list. Thanks to kind persons like you, more of us get to learn about that fascinating and different time just 150 years ago in our familiar county! John

Try Wayde Seidensticker, an attorney in York, who has done his family research. He is an older gentleman; could possibly help you. Work address for Wayde: 55 S. Queen St., York, PA 17403 Phone: (717) 848-1234. Good luck! R.M. Rebekah Mellinger Penn State Cooperative Extension 112 Pleasant Acres Road York PA 17402-9041 Phone: 717-840-7408 FAX: 717-755-5968 Email: [email protected]

Thank-you so much Ray. I do not know if these names are related to the ones that I am searching for but they have so many of the same similar names that I will get the book on interlibrary loan. I will let you know what happens after I check this out. Darlene

Darlene, It just has the bio-sketch of their father John N. LOGAN, born April 17, 1846. It also lists the following children James J LOGAN Jr (sic), Frederick Welty LOGAN, Helen Martha LOGAN, and Caroline E LOGAN. There is no mention of the children's marriage. If this is your guy, I'll send you the rest of the bio on John N. BUT, there are enough other references to these names in the history part of the book, that I suggest you do an interlibrary loan and have a first hand look. Let me know. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] Re: lookups in York Co., history > Would anyone have the time to look for the marriage of James Logan and > Caroline Elizabeth Hughes, probably married about 1790? Also if you could > find anything about this James Logan's parents in York Co., said to live in > Hanover? Thank-you very much. > Darlene Logan > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > Come join us at the Pennsylvania Dutch website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

John, History of York County, 1886, Gibson, Page 731: Lower Windsor Township. Lutheran and Reformed Church. "The Sunday-school of this church was organized in 1840, in a schoolhouse, about three-quarters of a mile west from the church....In 1857, it was removed to the church, where it has since been continued as a union school. After its removal to the church, John HELLERMAN was its first superintendent..." Page 24 in the bio-sketches. John Heller is given, with a father as a Reformed minister, however the dates do not work with yours. There are no other HELLERMANs listed. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hellerman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Lookup- Hellerman > You were kind enough to do a lookup for another on the list. Would you > consider > looking up John Hellerman, please. He was naturalized in 1838 and became > the first SS superintendent at Canodochly Lutheran Chuch in 1871. Are > there any other Hellerman's? Thank you very much for your time. John

Doneva, This just proves the point about PA Germans being frugal string-savers. :) Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doneva Shepard" <[email protected]> To: "Ray Schwartz" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:00 PM Subject: RE: [PAYORK-L] History of York co. book > Thank you, Ray. > The Sydenstricker Road in Fairfax, VA is named for the father of Pearl S > (Sydenstricker) BUCK. She is a 'cousin'. > Some of the family went to VA...some went to OH and mine went on to IA and > then to OR. But, it's all one family. > Doneva in OR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Schwartz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 8:02 PM > To: Doneva Shepard > Subject: Re: [PAYORK-L] History of York co. book > > Doneva, > > Not much help. > > Vol 1, page227. the Pennsylvania Germans. "In Thompson & Walker's "Baltimore > Town and Fell's Point directory" for 1796 we find, beside the German names > given above, others which are still current in the community, such > as......SEIDENSTRICKER...." > > There is also a Sydenstricker Road in Fairfax county, VA. Maybe another > direction to look. > Best wishes, > Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: Doneva Shepard <[email protected]> > To: Ray Schwartz <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 7:50 PM > Subject: RE: [PAYORK-L] History of York co. book > > >SILKNITTER/SEIDENSTRICKER > >Either way...(or the million other ways I've seen it spelled...but, all > >meaning the same thing; i.e. SYDENSTRICKER, SYDENSTREICHER, etc., etc.) > >(Bless your heart!) > >Doneva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doneva Shepard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [PAYorkGEN] History of York Cnty > Anything about my SILKNITTER/SEIDENSTRICKER's? > > Doneva Shepard in Oregon > > > ==== PA-YORK-GEN Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed here! > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2