--part1_86.f4ff90c.2e0f1720_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Geni Friends, In response to why would any one not know their grandparents names........... Well I'm guessing since that the grandparents were still in Poland and died during World War II, there wasn't too much their parents would talk about to them and the children were also youngsters. I do have all of the Naturalizations records and boat passage of ADAM & BARBARA DURAJ-SZCZOTKA. They immigrated to America Jul. 27, 1907 to New York, NY to Ellis Island on the ship Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse. My Uncle send me copies of these, but he doesn't know his grandmother's name. Infact on BARBARA SZCZOTKA's death certificate it has her father as Joe DURCY instead of Duraj as on Passage information, and it has UNKNOWN where Maiden name of mother is to be filled out. This information was provided by her husband ADAM SZCZOTKA. I was just hoping one of our Polish friends in Poland would be familiar with the name of DARAJ. CARPE DIEM~~ Lori : ) in Arizona CHUCKLE: There are only two ways to go to your Class Reunion..........skinny - or - rich ! --part1_86.f4ff90c.2e0f1720_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-xj06.mx.aol.com (rly-xj06.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.44]) by air-xj01.mail.aol.com (v99_r4.8) with ESMTP id MAILINXJ12-72c40dceea6b9; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:34:15 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by rly-xj06.mx.aol.com (v99_r4.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXJ610-72c40dceea6b9; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:34:02 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id i5Q3Xh24015597; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:33:43 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:33:43 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Jun 25 21:33:43 2004 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Ron Pozin" <[email protected]> Old-To: "Poland-L" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:33:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0426-1, 06/25/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/50525 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Subject: [POLAND] Polish Grandmother - DURAJ X-AOL-IP: 66.43.18.41 How does someone not know their grandparents names? Lori have you done any historic research on the social and military developments in the first forty years of Barbara Duraj's life. Whole villages disappeared, the Russian revolution's fighting spilled over into the Polish areas, WWI devastated the area. You could be killed for being pro Russian or anti Russian or Pro Polish nationalist or anti Polish nationalist or Pro Austrian or anti or for no reason at all. Don't forget in many areas of Galicia controlled by the Poles the majority population was Ruthene (Little Russian) and they didn't like it. Social unrest was always simmering just under the surface. Today there is Poland and Ukraine (Ruthenia). I met a an old man in Slovenia in 2002 who claims to be related to my great uncle who died there in 1954. I asked how he was related. He said my uncle was a Partisan (WWII) and his mother told him the man was a relation, you didn't ask how! You didn't tell anyone he was your relation. It was dangerous! Your aunt and uncle may be only following the path that has kept them alive for years: don't talk about your relatives or ask questions. They may know the names but not be willing to tell strangers who don't understand their code of silence. We Americans are spoiled and don't understand how most of the rest of the world lives. If we tell someone who grandma and grandpa are we don't expect to be attacked because of it for political reasons. Europe in the late 18th and early 19th centuries was not like that. Actually it hasn't been like that in Eastern Europe until the last 10-15 years and the old folks won't change easily. Ron ==== POLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Is receiving each message separately filling up your mailbox too quickly? Consider subscribing in Digest Mode, where several messages are grouped together into one e-mail and sent out as one message. --part1_86.f4ff90c.2e0f1720_boundary--