Hello Judi, Sorry I did not find either one of your requested surnames listed in the books by Ira Glazier. "Migration from the Russian Empire". Have you tried a search on Steve Morse search site of Ellis Island records? _http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html_ (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html) I located a Antonina Karczewska, but arrival wasn't until 1912 according to this manifest. I've downloaded the information on this person and will be glad to send it to you in a zipped file with your approval. Karen