Someone on the Butler County list asked about flood damage, and it occurred to me that a lot of people on the Pittsburgh list don't live there and have no idea how extensive the flooding really was. I thought I'd fix that. On WTAE channel 4 and WPXI channel 11 websites, there are links for viewer photos of the flood. http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/index.html?subid=2100083 http://www.wpxi.com/index.html The Trib-Review also has a lot of photos: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/ Click on the "Ivan's aftermath" photo at the top of the page, and the page it takes you to will have a link on the right for more photos. My parents (Pgh natives) now live in southern Ohio and had no idea how bad Pittsburgh really was until I told them. Even though they're only a couple hours away, their news only mentioned heavy rains for the Burgh, not the whole truth. Dad was astounded. Hope this is interesting to some, Bobbi