--=======5A5747C7======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2F9A3BDC; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roseanne, When comparing maps, it helps if you can align the streets as the banks of the rivers change from time to time. The Point is much larger now than it was even 100 years ago. I didn't have anything to do with Hogg so I can't say one way or the other. Kaufmann's isn't the only one with several basements. All of the large buildings go 3 and 4 floors underground and there may be a 5 somewhere. I've been in a lot of the basements and they are rat mazes. And it's not confined to just downtown. You can get lost in Allegheny General on the first floor; the basements are worse. And Pitt's Schenley Quadrangle, the old Schenley Apts, is a real maze. We had an inspection of the basements on the old apts once and it was two hours before we saw daylight again. The water in Kaufmann's lower basement may be part of Pgh's fourth river, the underground river, or caused by it. As I understand it, a lot of the buildings downtown have steam heat which they get from that outfit, name forgetten, in the Strip and it supposedly gets its water from the underground river. No pollution to clean up and free, once the drilling is done, making it an ideal resource. Al At 02:29 PM 9/27/2004, you wrote: >Al, > >Some where I saw a map with old Pittsburgh overlayed with Modern Pittsburgh. >I figured out what was at that location and it was Kaufmanns. It was Hogg's >Pond. Did it belong to Mr. Hogg? Also large island off Mon side of >downtown. Does anyone know why it disappeared? > >A branch of my family all worked for Kaufmanns and told me about water in the >lowest basement of the building (there are 4 basements). Seems nature >doesn't want to give up on the pond. > >Rosanne --=======5A5747C7======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2F9A3BDC Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 9/24/2004 --=======5A5747C7=======--