--=======332F31BD======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bobbi et al, The official downpour was around 4 inches on Friday, measured at Pittsburgh International Airport. However, at the Carnegie Science Center, located almost underneath the north end of the West End Bridge, the last figure that I heard near midnight was exactly 8 inches. I live on one of the highest spots in Pittsburgh yet I had a flooded cellar. I suspect, though, that the culprit wasn't so much the weather as a neighbor's downspout. I think that it's broken. Luckily there was only one fatality to all of the flooding although the police chief of Carnegie and 21 other poor souls thought they would be on the list. They were trapped in the middle of the Mansfield Bridge over Chartiers Creek. The Carnegie Vollies along with a National Guard unit brought some boats to the scene. It appears from the article in the Trib that only one of the boats was use for rescue. Evidently the creek was really running fast. It took 45 minutes to rescue several people and deposit them at a nearby Catholic Church were they went to the second floor to wait out the flooding. The article didn't mention whether or not the waters were that high; the article just mentioned that the church was the closest place for shelter. Any place else would have taken too long and others stranded on the bridge might have perished. The civilians were rescue first and then the police officers trapped were next, leaving by rank. The police chief was last. Although he had plenty of TV exposure for his role in the incident, I think that he would have been glad to have missed this opportunity. Pittsburgh has had a lot of flooding over the years. The flood height for this storm was in 8th place in recorded history, starting with the St Patrick Day's flood in 1936. What was unusual was that the flooding occurred over such a wide-spread area. Tarentum was underwater. The Blarney Stone in Etna was almost completely buried, not from the waters of the Allegheny but some creek that flows through Etna. Carnegie was flooded but so were all the communities from Bridgeville to Carnegie. It was reported that Wright's Seafood Inn in Heidelberg was under water. Wright's is a well-known seafood restaurant, probably one of the oldest restaurants in the Pittsburgh area. Al At 09:32 AM 9/19/2004, you wrote: >Someone on the Butler County list asked about flood damage, and it >occurred to me that a lot of people on the Pittsburgh list don't live >there and have no idea how extensive the flooding really was. I thought >I'd fix that. > >On WTAE channel 4 and WPXI channel 11 websites, there are links for viewer >photos of the flood. > >http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/index.html?subid=2100083 > >http://www.wpxi.com/index.html > >The Trib-Review also has a lot of photos: >http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/ >Click on the "Ivan's aftermath" photo at the top of the page, and the >page it takes you to will have a link on the right for more photos. --=======332F31BD======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/2004 --=======332F31BD=======--
--=======6018343E======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Correction. I noticed a mistake after I hit the SEND button. It was the Crafton Vollies, not the Carnegie Vollies, who were instrumental in rescuing those trapped on the Mansfield Bridge and I neglected to credit the US Coast Guard which doesn't normally patrol Chartiers Creek. Al At 02:35 PM 9/19/2004, you wrote: >--=======332F31BD======= >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A; charset=us-ascii; >format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Bobbi et al, > >The official downpour was around 4 inches on Friday, measured at Pittsburgh >International Airport. However, at the Carnegie Science Center, located >almost underneath the north end of the West End Bridge, the last figure >that I heard near midnight was exactly 8 inches. > >I live on one of the highest spots in Pittsburgh yet I had a flooded >cellar. I suspect, though, that the culprit wasn't so much the weather as >a neighbor's downspout. I think that it's broken. > >Luckily there was only one fatality to all of the flooding although the >police chief of Carnegie and 21 other poor souls thought they would be on >the list. They were trapped in the middle of the Mansfield Bridge over >Chartiers Creek. The Carnegie Vollies along with a National Guard unit >brought some boats to the scene. It appears from the article in the Trib >that only one of the boats was use for rescue. Evidently the creek was >really running fast. It took 45 minutes to rescue several people and >deposit them at a nearby Catholic Church were they went to the second floor >to wait out the flooding. The article didn't mention whether or not the >waters were that high; the article just mentioned that the church was the >closest place for shelter. Any place else would have taken too long and >others stranded on the bridge might have perished. The civilians were >rescue first and then the police officers trapped were next, leaving by >rank. The police chief was last. Although he had plenty of TV exposure >for his role in the incident, I think that he would have been glad to have >missed this opportunity. > >Pittsburgh has had a lot of flooding over the years. The flood height for >this storm was in 8th place in recorded history, starting with the St >Patrick Day's flood in 1936. What was unusual was that the flooding >occurred over such a wide-spread area. Tarentum was underwater. The >Blarney Stone in Etna was almost completely buried, not from the waters of >the Allegheny but some creek that flows through Etna. Carnegie was flooded >but so were all the communities from Bridgeville to Carnegie. It was >reported that Wright's Seafood Inn in Heidelberg was under water. Wright's >is a well-known seafood restaurant, probably one of the oldest restaurants >in the Pittsburgh area. > >Al > > >At 09:32 AM 9/19/2004, you wrote: > > >Someone on the Butler County list asked about flood damage, and it > >occurred to me that a lot of people on the Pittsburgh list don't live > >there and have no idea how extensive the flooding really was. I thought > >I'd fix that. > > > >On WTAE channel 4 and WPXI channel 11 websites, there are links for viewer > >photos of the flood. > > > >http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/index.html?subid=2100083 > > > >http://www.wpxi.com/index.html > > > >The Trib-Review also has a lot of photos: > >http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/ > >Click on the "Ivan's aftermath" photo at the top of the page, and the > >page it takes you to will have a link on the right for more photos. > >--=======332F31BD======= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; >x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A >Content-Disposition: inline > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/2004 > >--=======332F31BD=======-- > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >If you need to contact the listowner, send an email to Sue* at: >[email protected] > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/2004 --=======6018343E======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/2004 --=======6018343E=======--
Thanks for the info Al, it is all very interesting. My dad remembers the flood of 36; he was 9 that year and lived on Dearborn Street, Mom was on Winebiddle. When I was a child we lived in Hampton Township, Allison Park. Dad was completely amazed when I described the Shaler reports to him; he said he never in all his years in the burbs imagined flooding was a possibility. We were way up on top of a hill though, near the Hampton Middle School. I wish I still knew people there to see how that area fared. I hope your cellar dries out soon! Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Pittsburgh Flood > --=======332F31BD======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-B153D6A; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Bobbi et al, > > The official downpour was around 4 inches on Friday, measured at Pittsburgh > International Airport. However, at the Carnegie Science Center, located > almost underneath the north end of the West End Bridge, the last figure > that I heard near midnight was exactly 8 inches. > > I live on one of the highest spots in Pittsburgh yet I had a flooded > cellar. I suspect, though, that the culprit wasn't so much the weather as > a neighbor's downspout. I think that it's broken. > > Luckily there was only one fatality to all of the flooding although the > police chief of Carnegie and 21 other poor souls thought they would be on > the list. They were trapped in the middle of the Mansfield Bridge over > Chartiers Creek. The Carnegie Vollies along with a National Guard unit > brought some boats to the scene. It appears from the article in the Trib > that only one of the boats was use for rescue. Evidently the creek was > really running fast. It took 45 minutes to rescue several people and > deposit them at a nearby Catholic Church were they went to the second floor > to wait out the flooding. The article didn't mention whether or not the > waters were that high; the article just mentioned that the church was the > closest place for shelter. Any place else would have taken too long and > others stranded on the bridge might have perished. The civilians were > rescue first and then the police officers trapped were next, leaving by > rank. The police chief was last. Although he had plenty of TV exposure > for his role in the incident, I think that he would have been glad to have > missed this opportunity. > > Pittsburgh has had a lot of flooding over the years. The flood height for > this storm was in 8th place in recorded history, starting with the St > Patrick Day's flood in 1936. What was unusual was that the flooding > occurred over such a wide-spread area. Tarentum was underwater. The > Blarney Stone in Etna was almost completely buried, not from the waters of > the Allegheny but some creek that flows through Etna. Carnegie was flooded > but so were all the communities from Bridgeville to Carnegie. It was > reported that Wright's Seafood Inn in Heidelberg was under water. Wright's > is a well-known seafood restaurant, probably one of the oldest restaurants > in the Pittsburgh area. > > Al