Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else from you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the "manufactured" kielbassa.... Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe Bryan, Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, unabridged: kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, flavored with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language and not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we are living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... Al At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, BIG >difference.... > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very slightly so). >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served on a >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is completely >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide world, >please???? > >Bryan. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not red-colored and >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler St. in >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in business. > >Sandy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > Bryan, > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. >And > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think that > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher >shop. > > > > Al > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used to > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they worked....and >we > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they >good.... > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make for >my > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have ever >had > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My father-in-law > > >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer >made > > >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. They >only > > >buy fresh . . . > > > > > >Are you willing to share? > > > > > >Anna > > > > > >Researching the following in Pittsburgh > > > > > >ALFONSI, CHRIST, CICCANTI, DEMBLOWSKI, COTTER, GEIER, GURCHAK (GURCAK) > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > How to unsubscribe. 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Although I am not a Pollack (just married to one), the difference is the taste. My FIL gets white kielbasa down in SS some where for Easter every year and it is incredible. Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > Fine. Go and get technical....shouldn't really expect anything else from > you....but there IS a difference between "real" kielbassa and the > "manufactured" kielbassa.... > > Aren't there any other pollacks out there who can help me out here???? > > Bryan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Lenkner [mailto:alenkner@stargate.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:28 AM > To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > Bryan, > > Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd edition, unabridged: > > kielbasa, n., a smoked sausage of coarsely chopped beef and pork, flavored > with garlic and spices. Also called Polish sausage. > > Now, you could argue that the dictionary is of the "English" language and > not "Polish" and therefore they know not what they speak. However, we are > living in an English-speaking country so that's what we have to go > by. Maybe it's not politically correct but ......... > > Al > > > > At 02:45 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > >No, no, no...red colored and greasy is Polish sausage, there's a big, BIG > >difference.... > > > >Kielbassa, when made correctly, is not greasy at all (or very slightly so). > >I like it served cold, myself, but others like it fried up and served on a > >bun, or with provolone cheese (that's pretty good)....it is completely > >different in taste and texture than polish sausage... > > > >So please, don't malign my most favorite dish in the whole wide world, > >please???? > > > >Bryan. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sandy Laurie [mailto:sandylaurie@alltel.net] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 PM > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > >The absolute best klobase( kielbassa)is Slovenian . . . not red-colored and > >greasy, but very meaty. There used to be a shop(Ferlan's)on Butler St. in > >Lawrenceville that made it . . . don't know if their still in business. > > > >Sandy > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> > >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM > >Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > Bryan, > > > > > > I'm not a fan of Kielbasa in any way, no matter how you spell it or cook > > > it. However, there was a place up on Brownsville Rd. A butcher shop. > >And > > > I think it was called "Jim-Lyn's" or something similar. The fellow that > > > owned the shop wouldn't give his recipe to anybody either and I think > that > > > he only made it for Easter. You couldn't walk in off the street to buy > > > it; you had to place an order and maybe, just maybe, pay for it in > > > advance. I don't know why he called it kielbasa because it didn't take > > > like anything I've had since. Ask your dad if he remembers that butcher > >shop. > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:14 PM 11/14/2001, you wrote: > > > >Brain, huh? That's the first time I've ever been called that....unless > > > >you're telling me I'm a little white mouse with a big head??? > > > > > > > >ANYway....I don't have the recepie, and I know that my dad won't share > > > >it....sorry....but my grandfather swore him to secrecy, I do know > > > >that...because years ago, back when I was a baby, my grandparents used > to > > > >make tons of it for all the family members and neighbors and stuff....I > > > >swear, you could hear their kitchen table creaking as they > worked....and > >we > > > >ALWAYS make hamburgers with the leftover meat....oh, GAWD are they > >good.... > > > > > > > >Bryan. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Cotter, Anna [mailto:Anna.Cotter@ca.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:01 PM > > > >To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Kielbasa Recipe > > > > > > > > > > > >Brain, > > > > > > > >I would love to get a copy of your family recipe for Kielbasa to make > for > >my > > > >father-in-law. I always make my own sausage . . . the best you have > ever > >had > > > >. . . but my husband's family is big on fresh Kielbasa. My > father-in-law > > > >grew up in the South Side on Edwards Way and after his family no longer > >made > > > >their own Kielbasa they would go to the local market and buy it. 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