Hi Tomi, I don't know if this would be anyone in your family but I have information from a marriage form from the Diocese of Pittsburgh that a Joannes Geissler was a witness to the marriage of Leonard Schuck to Mary Schutz. Do you know anything about Joannes Geissler? Thank You, Sue -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:35 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests Hello, Thanks for the responses. I have now learned that the Sts. Peter and Paul Church in E. Liberty was indeed a 'German' Roman Catholic Church. There is a short history of the church on the Historic Pittsburgh website, where I was able to find my gg grandfather's name as a Financial Secretary of the church. Also, I have been able to obtain some information on marriages and baptisms from the Diocese of Pittsburgh. Still looking to find someone with knowledge of the people who were the sponsors or witnesses to the Geisler baptisms and marriages. Tomi ----------------------------------------> From: pa-pittsburgh-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: PA-PITTSBURGH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 112> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:01:38 -0600>>>> Today's Topics:>> 1. Re: E. Liberty/German surname interests (Barb Mangan)> 2. Re: E. Liberty/German surname interests (alenkner@stargate.net)>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> Message: 1> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:58:30 -0400> From: "Barb Mangan" > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed>>> Tom> Sts.Peter & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined another> church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan office they may> be able to help you. They found some records for me> Barb>> tipperboo12@msn.com>>>>> ----Original Message Follows----> From: "Tomi Larson" > Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400>> Hello List,> I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would like to> establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty around the turn> of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the baptisms and marriages> occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty.>>> John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler)>> Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler)>> William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler)>> Hermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?)>> Joseph Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler)>> E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler)>> Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and Margaretta LANG> Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be related to Margaretta/> Margaret.>>> Kind regards,> Tomi Larson>> _________________________________________________________________> Now you can see trouble…before he arrives> http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 >>>>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message>>>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 2> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:18:13 -0400> From: alenkner@stargate.net> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed>> Barb,>> Sts Peter & Paul, E. Liberty and German says to me Sts Peter & Paul> Lutheran Church. The building was given over to a community group> years ago. As far as I know, the only remnant of the church is the> cemetery on Lemington Ave.>> Al>>> At 09:58 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote:>>>Tom>>Sts.Peter & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined>>another church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan>>office they may be able to help you. They found some records for me>>Barb>>>>tipperboo12@msn.com>>>>>>>>>>----Original Message Follows---->>From: "Tomi Larson" >>Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com>>To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com>>Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests>>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400>>>>Hello List,>>I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would>>like to establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty>>around the turn of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the>>baptisms and marriages occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty.>>>>>>John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler)>>>>Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler)>>>>William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler)>>>>Hermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?)>>>>Joseph Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler)>>>>E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler)>>>>Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and>>Margaretta LANG Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be>>related to Margaretta/ Margaret.>>>>>>Kind regards,>>Tomi Larson>> _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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Hello, Thanks for the responses. I have now learned that the Sts. Peter and Paul Church in E. Liberty was indeed a 'German' Roman Catholic Church. There is a short history of the church on the Historic Pittsburgh website, where I was able to find my gg grandfather's name as a Financial Secretary of the church. Also, I have been able to obtain some information on marriages and baptisms from the Diocese of Pittsburgh. Still looking to find someone with knowledge of the people who were the sponsors or witnesses to the Geisler baptisms and marriages. Tomi ----------------------------------------> From: pa-pittsburgh-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: PA-PITTSBURGH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 112> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:01:38 -0600>>>> Today's Topics:>> 1. Re: E. Liberty/German surname interests (Barb Mangan)> 2. Re: E. Liberty/German surname interests (alenkner@stargate.net)>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> Message: 1> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:58:30 -0400> From: "Barb Mangan" > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed>>> Tom> Sts.Peter & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined another> church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan office they may> be able to help you. They found some records for me> Barb>> tipperboo12@msn.com>>>>> ----Original Message Follows----> From: "Tomi Larson" > Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> ! To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400>> Hello List,> I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would like to> establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty around the turn> of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the baptisms and marriages> occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty.>>> John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler)>> Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler)>> William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler)>> Hermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?)>> Joseph Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler)>> E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler)>> Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and Margaretta LANG> Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be relat! ed to Margaretta/> Margaret.>>> Kind regards,> Tomi Larson>> _! ________ ________________________________________________________> Now you can see trouble…before he arrives> http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507>>>>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message>>>>> ------------------------------>> Message: 2> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:18:13 -0400> From: alenkner@stargate.net> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed>> Barb,>> Sts Peter & Paul, E. Liberty and German says to me Sts Peter & Paul> Lutheran Church. The building was given over to a community group> years ago. As far as I know, the only remnant of the church is the> cemetery on Lemington Ave.>> Al>>> At 09:58 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote:>>>Tom>>Sts.Pete! r & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined>>another church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan>>office they may be able to help you. They found some records for me>>Barb>>>>tipperboo12@msn.com>>>>>>>>>>----Original Message Follows---->>From: "Tomi Larson" >>Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com>>To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com>>Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests>>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400>>>>Hello List,>>I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would>>like to establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty>>around the turn of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the>>baptisms and marriages occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty.>>>>>>John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler)>>>>Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler)>>>>William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler)>>>>H! ermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?)>! >>>Josep h Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler)>>>>E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler)>>>>Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and>>Margaretta LANG Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be>>related to Margaretta/ Margaret.>>>>>>Kind regards,>>Tomi Larson>> _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews

Barb, Sts Peter & Paul, E. Liberty and German says to me Sts Peter & Paul Lutheran Church. The building was given over to a community group years ago. As far as I know, the only remnant of the church is the cemetery on Lemington Ave. Al At 09:58 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote: >Tom >Sts.Peter & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined >another church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan >office they may be able to help you. They found some records for me >Barb > >tipperboo12@msn.com > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Tomi Larson" <tomil23@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400 > >Hello List, >I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would >like to establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty >around the turn of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the >baptisms and marriages occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty. > > >John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler) > >Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler) > >William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler) > >Hermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?) > >Joseph Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler) > >E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler) > >Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and >Margaretta LANG Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be >related to Margaretta/ Margaret. > > >Kind regards, >Tomi Larson > >_________________________________________________________________ >Now you can see trouble…before he arrives >http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: >10/18/2007 5:47 PM

Tom Sts.Peter & Paul church does not exist anymore. It may have joined another church but I don't think so. If you write to the diocesan office they may be able to help you. They found some records for me Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Tomi Larson" <tomil23@hotmail.com> Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] E. Liberty/German surname interests Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:59 -0400 Hello List, I am interested in information on any of the people below. I would like to establish a connection to the Geisler family of East Liberty around the turn of the century - 1880s-1920s. I believe most of the baptisms and marriages occured at Sts Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty. John and Catherine Kirchner (sponsors for baptism of Irene Geisler) Thomas Lauderheim and Rosa Lang (sponsors for baptism of Charles Geisler) William and Maria Kruft (sponsors for baptism of John William Geisler) Hermann Sagemann (I believe is husband of Catherine Sagemann?) Joseph Ganster (Witness for marriage of John P and Margaret Geisler) E. Suhr (Witness for marriage of Joseph Lang and Catherine Geisler) Also interested in Philip and Catherine Geisler CYPHERS and Margaretta LANG Geisler or any Pittsburgh LANGS that might be related to Margaretta/ Margaret. Kind regards, Tomi Larson _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see trouble…before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cathy, If the Post was made of soft paper, we'd have a better use for it. For now, we'll have to give the Post to the birds for their cages. Al At 05:36 PM 10/16/2007, you wrote: > I thought that they quit doing a Post years ago? Or are >they trying it again? 20+ years ago when I lived in Pittsburgh it had two >papers & I thought the Post was the better paper, but things do change, >they have to. As far as I knew there has only been one paper for about 5 >years or longer. Bear in mind though, I'm only in/around Pgh, every few >years though! And so that leaves Post-Gazette as the main paper. > I did find that article facinating by the way, Al! Cathy > > > [Original Message] > > From: <alenkner@stargate.net> > > To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 10/13/2007 2:31:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] New technology aids genealogists > > > > > > The Trib is a better newspaper in all facets. I read the Sunday Post > > on Saturday night just to see what the enemy is saying. The biggest > > problem with the Post is trying to tell which is the comic section, > > what their editors are writing, the commentary or opinion page and > > those pages with funny looking characters in color. > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > At 06:44 AM 10/13/2007, you wrote: > > >I read the Tribune Review because the editing is better than in the > > >Post-Gazette - I just skip the editorial page. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: >10/15/2007 6:48 AM > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: >10/15/2007 5:55 PM

Heather I know I am late in responding. Do you still need websites? If you do, can you specify the subject? Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: kraskagen@comcast.net (heather kraska) Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: POLISH-PA@rootsweb.com (polish pa list), PAWASHIN@rootsweb.com (pa washington list), PA-PITTSBURGH@rootsweb.com (pa pittsburgh list), PAGREENE@rootsweb.com (pa greene list), PAFAYETT@rootsweb.com (pa fayette list) Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] favorites Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:16:36 +0000 Listers, I need some help. My computer has crashed twice in about a month. The second crash I lost all of my favorites. If anyone has some favorite sites, could you please forward them to me. It is going to take me a long time to rebuild my list. If you prefer, email me directly so as not to bog down the list. Thank you in advance, Heather Kraska ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Al for sending this info. It is amazing what they can do nowadays. I have sworn so many times that I am quitting the Post and get the Review. They make me really mad sometimes. Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought that they quit doing a Post years ago? Or are they trying it again? 20+ years ago when I lived in Pittsburgh it had two papers & I thought the Post was the better paper, but things do change, they have to. As far as I knew there has only been one paper for about 5 years or longer. Bear in mind though, I'm only in/around Pgh, every few years though! And so that leaves Post-Gazette as the main paper. I did find that article facinating by the way, Al! Cathy > [Original Message] > From: <alenkner@stargate.net> > To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/13/2007 2:31:39 PM > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] New technology aids genealogists > > > The Trib is a better newspaper in all facets. I read the Sunday Post > on Saturday night just to see what the enemy is saying. The biggest > problem with the Post is trying to tell which is the comic section, > what their editors are writing, the commentary or opinion page and > those pages with funny looking characters in color. > > Al > > > > > At 06:44 AM 10/13/2007, you wrote: > >I read the Tribune Review because the editing is better than in the > >Post-Gazette - I just skip the editorial page. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 6:48 AM

The Trib is a better newspaper in all facets. I read the Sunday Post on Saturday night just to see what the enemy is saying. The biggest problem with the Post is trying to tell which is the comic section, what their editors are writing, the commentary or opinion page and those pages with funny looking characters in color. Al At 06:44 AM 10/13/2007, you wrote: >I read the Tribune Review because the editing is better than in the >Post-Gazette - I just skip the editorial page.

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Bonz, The only thing that should be expensive would be the program and, if the prof has his head on straight, the program will be affordable, if not cheap. I belong to 6 other lists and nobody posted anything similar. I thought that I would be beat out on an exclusive. For some reason, my post to all 7 of my lists didn't make it to one. Gotta be something screwy with Rootsweb. Al At 10:13 AM 10/11/2007, you wrote: >It was all over the 'net last week. ;) And on several genealogy lists. > >It will be a good thing, if it becomes cheap enough so that we can take one >to the cemetery. > >Bonz

It was all over the 'net last week. ;) And on several genealogy lists. It will be a good thing, if it becomes cheap enough so that we can take one to the cemetery. Bonz -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alenkner@stargate.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:07 AM To: PA-PITTSBURGH Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] New technology aids genealogists Listers, It seems I'm the only one who reads the Pgh Tribune-Review. On Monday the Trib ran a story headlined " CMU team's scanner unlocks secrets from the past. This is going to be a revolutionary development in reading headstones and it doesn't look like the cost will be that high. For those not familiar with Pittsburgh, CMU is Carnegie Mellon University. Without further ado, the story can be found at http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_531518.html Al ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM

Listers, It seems I'm the only one who reads the Pgh Tribune-Review. On Monday the Trib ran a story headlined " CMU team's scanner unlocks secrets from the past." This is going to be a revolutionary development in reading headstones and it doesn't look like the cost will be that high. For those not familiar with Pittsburgh, CMU is Carnegie Mellon University. Without further ado, the story can be found at http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_531518.html Al

Listers, It seems I'm the only one who reads the Pgh Tribune-Review. On Monday the Trib ran a story headlined " CMU team's scanner unlocks secrets from the past. This is going to be a revolutionary development in reading headstones and it doesn't look like the cost will be that high. For those not familiar with Pittsburgh, CMU is Carnegie Mellon University. Without further ado, the story can be found at http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_531518.html Al

Thanks Diane very very much for sending those great photos. I never would have seen Pittsburgh like your relative has seen it. Great people and a great city. Thankl her for me. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: Diane Dunlap <dcdunlap@mac.com> Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] current photos Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:21:47 -0500 I received this link http://pittsburghskyline.com/ from a Pittsburgh relative and knew it was one others might want to view too - so I'm passing it along to y'all. ;) Diane Diane Duman Dunlap :) http://homepage.mac.com/dcdunlap/dunlapdumanfamily/index.html Dunlap / Duman Family Ancestors and Relatives Dunlap, Martin, Bushong, Shank, / Duman, Phalen, Scholl, Lang ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry if I confused you with the two different stories. Jacob was the "German residing in Allegheny." His son Christian was the "prominent citizen." I found the articles in my first foray into genealogy in the '70's, way back in the pre-computer era. Jacob's will and the filings to settle Christian's estate I found at the Allegheny County Courthouse. I suspect I found the newspaper articles by researching the Western Pennsylvania Genealogy Society's collection. The courthouse and WPGS were my main resources back then. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Susan, How did you find the article on the Jacob Kopp drowning? I see he was a prominent citizen, so the detailed article, but is there a way to search newspapers by keyword or something? Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ.  Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2

Haven't done any river research but here's a story from The Pittsburgh Evening Chronicle, Saturday, 19 November 1864, about one of my ancestors: Man Drowned Yesterday afternoon Mr. Jacob KOPP, a German residing in Allegheny, was drowned in the Allegheny River, above the upper bridge. It appears that the deceased was engaged in collecting drift wood, and fell under some raft or flat. he was about 50 years of age and leaves a family of two sons and one daughter. A reward of fifty dollars is offered for the recovery of the body. In settling the estate, expenses included advertising in Sunday newspapers offering a reward for recovery of the body as well as advertising in the Wheeling, West Virginia papers. Apparently they were not successful as no burial expenses are listed. Elizabeth KOPP, his widow, later filed a petition declaring that her eldest son, Jacob KOPP, and Christian HETZEL, her daughter Dorothea's husband, had assumed control of the estate and wouldn't give her anything; and that daughter Mary Amelia was in "delicate health and unable to earn her own livelihood." The petition was dismissed. The river was not kind to this family as this article about Jacob's other son, Christian, shows. From The Pittsburgh Daily Gazette, Friday 16 August 1872: Thrown on His Head A Prominent Citizen of Allegheny Seriously Injured A Singular Accident Yesterday afternoon an accident of a singular but somewaht serious character occurred to Mr. Jacob KOPP, one of Allegheny's prominent citizens. Mr. KOPP is owner of a saw mill in the Fourth Ward, near the River. Attached to the mill is machinery for drawing logs and rafts out of the river into the yard. Mr. KOPP was standing one one of the rafts which was being hauled up the incline when the rope attached to the drag broke and the raft swept backward. The sudden shock threw the gentleman off the ground, which he struck head foremost. Several employes ran to his assiance and found him insensible. They carried him to his residence in the vicinity where Drs. EBRHAST, ALCORN, HECKELDEAN and EASTEN who did all in their power to restore him to consciousness, but were unsuccessful. He began to bleed from the ears and nose last evening and was yet unconscious at last accounts. The physicians consider the case a serious one. Mr. KOPP is one of Allegheny's prominent citizens. He was served several terms in Council, and is well and widely know. There are many who will side with his friends in the hope that the accident may not result seriously. A story the next day reports his passing and notes that the deceased was 40 years of age and left a wife and seven children. Unlike his father, he didn't leave a will.

Hello, After reading about the boys who were drowned in the Monongahela, I wondered if there was anyone out there who has done any river research and might know of other drownings? TOne was my gg grandfather, Henry Andrew Lewis, who is said to have drowned in the Allegheny River. I don't have a death date, but it would be between 1857 and 1870. I have tried to get a corner's report, but they are not accessible. Without a date, I can't just go to the newspaper. Any ideas? Tomi in NY _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe.  Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2

Arrested on a Very Serious Charge Edward E. WEST, a quarry man of Homestead, was arrested yesterday, and placed under $2000 bail by Judge MAGEE on a charge of rape. The information is made by William G. STRUP, who alleges that WEST assaulted his half-demented wife in a wood near Homestead. The lady became so ill that she had to be taken to the West Penn Hospital, where she now lies in a serious condition. Mysteriously Missing From His Home The police were notified yesterday, of the sudden disappearance of Thomas QUINN, aged thirty-four, from his home at Woodville, Pa., on Saturday morning. His friends are alarmed and anxious for some clues as to his whereabouts. He if 5 feet 11 inches in height, dark complexion and mustache, black hair, wore black clothes and black stiff hat. *From the research of Ruth Sprowls