My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. Bryan. ________________________________ From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Hello Bryan, I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. Tomi > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 > From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames > To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm > not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go > home. > > Bryan. > >********** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bryan, I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. Tomi > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 > From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames > To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm > not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go > home. > > Bryan. > >********** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last.  Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033

Hi Ken: I am John Clifton , my grandmother was Ellen Mcdonagh from Galway. Ellen had a brother named Patrick Mcdonagh who came to Phila. in 1904 from Oughterard, Galway. Patrick and his sister Mary were on the same boat, and both were in their early twenty's. They both went to the home of their sister Ellen who was married to James Keenan. I did meet Mary and Ellen but never met Patrick, I was told that he died at a very young age, I don't know if he was married or not, the only Patrick that I have found lived in Allegheny, Pittsburgh in the 1910 census. No one is alive that knows anything about this family but me and I am getting too old to think and I want to stop searching at the end of this year. If you can help me to find some news about Patrick I would be grateful. I live in Florida and will never get up north again, perhaps I shouldn't say that. Please reply. Cousin Jack Clifton in sunny Florida P.S. I sent this to you personally, but it bounced.

Thanks for the obits, Donna. The YAGATICH one provided much info on a family I only started to research last week - much appreciated. -- Ken

Hi Bryan, The ward boundaries are described in a separate section of many of the 19th and 20th Century City Directories. There's a bunch of these as well as a 1916 Street Directory up on our site at http://www.evendon.com . If anybody would like to go through the directories and note the pages where the Ward boundaries are described in each book, I'll create (on the site) a separate meta-book which has just these so they're easy to find. The same goes for streets, churches, etc. Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Szafranski, Bryan Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:48 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go home. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:52 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames Hello, I am trying to find out if Lillian Rose Kruft, who appears on the 1910 census (Pittsburgh Ward 7) is the daughter of CATHARINE LANG (father IS John Lang), or sister to Margaret, Catharine, Rose and Joseph Lang. I have found her father is John Lang, but there are a number of John Langs in Pittsburgh, so I need to also find the mother to find the right family. If anyone knows about Lillian or the Kruft/Lang connection or can help, reply. Thank you. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bryan, The original 7th Ward, presuming you're talking about Pgh and not Allegheny City, was south of Wylie but definitely the lower Hill District. The new 7th Ward is Shadyside. Al At 09:47 AM 11/5/2007, you wrote: >Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm >not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go >home. > >Bryan.

Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go home. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:52 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames Hello, I am trying to find out if Lillian Rose Kruft, who appears on the 1910 census (Pittsburgh Ward 7) is the daughter of CATHARINE LANG (father IS John Lang), or sister to Margaret, Catharine, Rose and Joseph Lang. I have found her father is John Lang, but there are a number of John Langs in Pittsburgh, so I need to also find the mother to find the right family. If anyone knows about Lillian or the Kruft/Lang connection or can help, reply. Thank you. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken here are 2 with her name in it Donna NAPOLETANO ANNETTE "TOOTSIE" On Wednesday, August 29, 2007. Beloved wife of the late Robert Napoletano; mother of Roberta Tarasi, Jamie, Jeffrey, Judy and Robert Napoletano, Jr.; also survived by six grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. Visitation and service private. Arrangements by FINDLAY C. WYLIE FUNERAL HOME, INC., Penn Hills. 412-731-2901. Send condolences at post-gazette.com/gb Published Friday, August 31, 2007 YAGATICH LEONARD A. Age 75 of Baldwin Twp. on Sunday, February 8, 2004; beloved husband of Agnes (Happe) Yagatich; loving father of Leonard A., Jr. (Denise) Yagatich, Karen L. Yagatich, and John P. (Patti) Yagatich; grandfather of six, great-grandfather of two; brother of Joseph, Mary Besal, George, Anna Napoletano, Helen Grzandziel, Rose Lahey and the late Ferdinand, John, Edward and William. Leonard was a US Navy veteran serving during WW II. Funeral Arrangements by BEINHAUERS, Friends welcome at 2630 West Liberty Avenue Dormont, (412) 531-4000 Tuesday and Wednesday 2-4 and 7-9 pm. A Mass of Christian burial will be celebrated Thursday at Noon Church of the Resurrection. Please add a tribute at www.woodrufffamilyservices.com Please sign the guest book at post-gazette.com Published Wednesday, February 11, 2004 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello, I know that the Langs were German Catholic. I don't know which church they attended, however I do know their daughter, Margaret Lang GEISLER, attended Sts. Peter and Paul RC Church in E. Liberty. This church no longer exists. I hadn't made the connection that Lillian and Rosa could be the same person, but yes the birthdays seem to match up. Thanks for the 'heads up' on that! Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline

Thanks, Bill. The person I'm researching is Annette NAPOLETANO. She was born 13 June 1925 in Pittsburgh and died 29 Aug 2007 in Pittsburgh, wife of Robert NAPOLETANO who died in 1986. I very much appreciate this. -- Ken

Current Pittsburgh Post Gazette Obits are now kept online for one year at: _http://www.legacy.com_ (http://www.legacy.com) OR you can search older Post Gazette Obits from early 2000 to present (except last 30 days) here: _http://classified.post-gazette.com/obituaries/archive.asp_ (http://classified.post-gazette.com/obituaries/archive.asp) - Wilberta In a message dated 11/4/07 1:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, kmurph@worldnet.att.net writes: I'm in Arizona. How can I get an obit from the Aug 30, 2007 issue of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette? Thks, Ken ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Tomi I found a John (43) and Catherine (43) in the 1870 census. Their children were Catherine (14), Joseph (10), Maggie (5), and Rose (2). I believe this is your family and that Lillian was going by the name Rose when she was a child. The ages of John and Rose both match with later census data. Do you know which church your family attended? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:52 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames Hello, I am trying to find out if Lillian Rose Kruft, who appears on the 1910 census (Pittsburgh Ward 7) is the daughter of CATHARINE LANG (father IS John Lang), or sister to Margaret, Catharine, Rose and Joseph Lang. I have found her father is John Lang, but there are a number of John Langs in Pittsburgh, so I need to also find the mother to find the right family. If anyone knows about Lillian or the Kruft/Lang connection or can help, reply. Thank you. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken Whose obit do you need? I'll see if I can find it for you. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Murphy Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:17 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] PITTSBURGH Post-Gazette Obits I'm in Arizona. How can I get an obit from the Aug 30, 2007 issue of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette? Thks, -- Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am trying to find out if Lillian Rose Kruft, who appears on the 1910 census (Pittsburgh Ward 7) is the daughter of CATHARINE LANG (father IS John Lang), or sister to Margaret, Catharine, Rose and Joseph Lang. I have found her father is John Lang, but there are a number of John Langs in Pittsburgh, so I need to also find the mother to find the right family. If anyone knows about Lillian or the Kruft/Lang connection or can help, reply. Thank you. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

I'm in Arizona. How can I get an obit from the Aug 30, 2007 issue of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette? Thks, -- Ken

G. G. O'BRIEN of Pittsburgh has been appointed parole officer for the Federal court in Western Pennsylvania. Heretofore this office has had volunteers who served without pay. Mr. O'BRIEN, who served in the World war, is the firs salaried appointee. He is well known in McDonald. His wife is Marie VALENTOUR, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. VALENTOUR of Station street.

South Pittsburgh was closer. At 10:54 AM 11/1/2007, you wrote: >Tomi, > I would hazard an educated guess that none are in PITTSBURGH. >The first is probably Sharpsburg or South Pittsburgh, the second >ALLEGHENY CITY, the third BIRMINGHAM and the last two ALLEGHENY >CITY. Mac > >Tomi Larson wrote: > > >Hello list, > > > >I have this page from the 1872 Pittsburgh City Directory > >page 0281 > > > >LANG, John > > > > Cabinet maker, Main S > > Lab, 38 Pike, A > > Lab, 1116 Bradford, B > > Lab, 158 Carpenter Ay, A > > Salesman, 191 Arch, A > >

Tomi, The abbreviations are on page 45. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred C McCutcheon Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:55 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Pittsbugh wards Tomi, I would hazard an educated guess that none are in PITTSBURGH. The first is probably Sharpsburg or South Pittsburgh, the second ALLEGHENY CITY, the third BIRMINGHAM and the last two ALLEGHENY CITY. Mac Tomi Larson wrote: >Hello list, > >I have this page from the 1872 Pittsburgh City Directory >page 0281 > >LANG, John > > Cabinet maker, Main S > Lab, 38 Pike, A > Lab, 1116 Bradford, B > Lab, 158 Carpenter Ay, A > Salesman, 191 Arch, A > > >Can anyone tell me if any of the above streets are in the 20th or 22nd Wards? > >Also, what do the letters A, B, S, Ay mean? > >Thank you, >Tomi >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269 71033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tomi, I would hazard an educated guess that none are in PITTSBURGH. The first is probably Sharpsburg or South Pittsburgh, the second ALLEGHENY CITY, the third BIRMINGHAM and the last two ALLEGHENY CITY. Mac Tomi Larson wrote: >Hello list, > >I have this page from the 1872 Pittsburgh City Directory >page 0281 > >LANG, John > > Cabinet maker, Main S > Lab, 38 Pike, A > Lab, 1116 Bradford, B > Lab, 158 Carpenter Ay, A > Salesman, 191 Arch, A > > >Can anyone tell me if any of the above streets are in the 20th or 22nd Wards? > >Also, what do the letters A, B, S, Ay mean? > >Thank you, >Tomi >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Tomi, Ay is Avenue and A is Allegheny City. Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:18 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Pittsbugh wards Hello list, I have this page from the 1872 Pittsburgh City Directory page 0281 LANG, John Cabinet maker, Main S Lab, 38 Pike, A Lab, 1116 Bradford, B Lab, 158 Carpenter Ay, A Salesman, 191 Arch, A Can anyone tell me if any of the above streets are in the 20th or 22nd Wards? Also, what do the letters A, B, S, Ay mean? Thank you, Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last.  Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1033 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message