Barb, I never heard of Dooker's Hollow so it may indeed be in N. Braddock. Duck Hollow is in Pgh. They're probably a little over a mile apart (if in N. Braddock). Al At 11:01 AM 11/14/2007, you wrote: >I'm confused...are Duck Hollow and Dookers Hollow the same place? I thought >Dookers Hollow was in N. Braddock (Ravine Street?) >Barbara (in Sacramento CA)

Hi Barbara, I'm glad you posted back about this. I had thought they were the same but they're not. Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara/Bill Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:02 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] duck Hollow versus Dooker Hollow I'm confused...are Duck Hollow and Dookers Hollow the same place? I thought Dookers Hollow was in N. Braddock (Ravine Street?) Barbara (in Sacramento CA) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm confused...are Duck Hollow and Dookers Hollow the same place? I thought Dookers Hollow was in N. Braddock (Ravine Street?) Barbara (in Sacramento CA)

Don, That's Seldom Seen's version of Saline St. You're 100% correct but very few people, other than those living in the hollow and the fellows fishing and the occasional car-burner arsonist know the name. Very few know that there are 3 sections of Saline. Al At 11:25 PM 11/13/2007, you wrote: >Hi Barb, > >Duck's Hollow is at the bottom of the hill right across the Mon River (on >the N side of the river) from the Homestead waterfront stores. As you're >going down the hill towards the Homestead High Level Bridge from Squirrel >Hill, you turn left and then right onto Saline Street (I think that's what >it is there) and continue on down the hill. It's quite old there. > >Don > >-----Original Message----- >From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Mangan >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:48 PM >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? > >Al >Where is Ducks Hollow? What is seldom seen? >Barb > > > >tipperboo12@msn.com > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: alenkner@stargate.net >Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com, Lookups@evendon.com, >pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? >Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:47:31 -0500 > >Sharon, > >There are only about 18 houses in Duck Hollow, if that. It's now the >most secluded neighborhood in Pittsburgh now that Seldom Seen has >been ruined. Your first exposure to Duck Hollow is one of disbelief. > >Al > > > >At 12:45 AM 11/10/2007, Sharon Coyne wrote: > >My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents >owned > >the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of >his > >mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the > >Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. > >A > >lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent > >apartments in the early days. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: >11/12/2007 9:19 PM

Barb, It's been at least 15 years since I've been down there and I don't know if that slag hill development outside the Squirrelly Hill tunnels affected it but............ heading down Browns Hill Rd toward the Browns HIll Bridge, just before the bridge there's a road to the left. Take that turn and immediately you'll see the Jewish Home for the Aged which you pass. Eventually you'll get down near the bottom and you'll see a bridge to your left (hopefully). Cross the bridge and you're in Duck Hollow. If you don't cross the bridge but drive down to the Monongahela River beach, you may discover a handful of guys fishing. When the water's low, you can actually walk between 1/4 and 1/3 of the way across the river. Seldom Seen: is north of Beechview and off Route 51. I'm not sure if you can even go back there without a lot of trouble as one of the genius traffic planners figured a way to make the intersection worse than before. If you were coming down Woodruff from Mt. Washington, lost your brakes and crossed Route 51, you would see the entrance to Seldom Seen. It's behind a barricade to keep people from dumping back there. Where you see the railroad underpass, you've seen the entrance to Seldom Seen. The tunnel is maybe 150 long and I imagine that the end of the tunnel is the farthest you can get. I took somebody from the list back there 8-10 years ago and it was............... well, let's put it this way. I remember Seldom Seen when there were well-maintained homes back there with most families having gardens and too many kids. It was a great place to grow up. Now it looks like something out of a Tarzan movie except the trees are not much more than saplings. It's so thick in there that nothing can grow like it should. Al At 09:48 PM 11/13/2007, you wrote: >Al >Where is Ducks Hollow? What is seldom seen? >Barb > > > >tipperboo12@msn.com > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: alenkner@stargate.net >Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com, Lookups@evendon.com, >pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? >Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:47:31 -0500 > >Sharon, > >There are only about 18 houses in Duck Hollow, if that. It's now the >most secluded neighborhood in Pittsburgh now that Seldom Seen has >been ruined. Your first exposure to Duck Hollow is one of disbelief. > >Al > > > >At 12:45 AM 11/10/2007, Sharon Coyne wrote: > >My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents >owned > >the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of >his > >mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the > >Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. >A > >lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent > >apartments in the early days. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: >11/12/2007 9:19 PM

Hi Barb, Duck's Hollow is at the bottom of the hill right across the Mon River (on the N side of the river) from the Homestead waterfront stores. As you're going down the hill towards the Homestead High Level Bridge from Squirrel Hill, you turn left and then right onto Saline Street (I think that's what it is there) and continue on down the hill. It's quite old there. Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Mangan Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:48 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? Al Where is Ducks Hollow? What is seldom seen? Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: alenkner@stargate.net Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com, Lookups@evendon.com, pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:47:31 -0500 Sharon, There are only about 18 houses in Duck Hollow, if that. It's now the most secluded neighborhood in Pittsburgh now that Seldom Seen has been ruined. Your first exposure to Duck Hollow is one of disbelief. Al At 12:45 AM 11/10/2007, Sharon Coyne wrote: >My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents owned >the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of his >mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the >Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. A >lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent >apartments in the early days. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Al Where is Ducks Hollow? What is seldom seen? Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: alenkner@stargate.net Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com, Lookups@evendon.com, pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:47:31 -0500 Sharon, There are only about 18 houses in Duck Hollow, if that. It's now the most secluded neighborhood in Pittsburgh now that Seldom Seen has been ruined. Your first exposure to Duck Hollow is one of disbelief. Al At 12:45 AM 11/10/2007, Sharon Coyne wrote: >My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents owned >the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of his >mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the >Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. A >lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent >apartments in the early days. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, There are only about 18 houses in Duck Hollow, if that. It's now the most secluded neighborhood in Pittsburgh now that Seldom Seen has been ruined. Your first exposure to Duck Hollow is one of disbelief. Al At 12:45 AM 11/10/2007, Sharon Coyne wrote: >My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents owned >the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of his >mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the >Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. A >lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent >apartments in the early days.

My aunt and uncle lived in Duck's Hollow for years. My uncle's parents owned the house and when his dad died him and my aunt moved in to take care of his mother. I'm not sure if there were boarding houses there but since the Homestead Steel Mill was right across the river there may have been there. A lot of the mill workers that traveled to Homestead to work would rent apartments in the early days. On 10/23/07, Don Krieger <dkrieger@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > Hi Barbara & Captain Bill, > > It sounds like you're talking about Duck's Hollow, although I know nothing > about boarding houses there. It's very close to the Monongahela River at > the Homestead High Level Bridge. You can find it at http://maps.yahoo.com > by searching on Ettwein 15217 . Ettwein is the name of one of the > streets. > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara/Bill > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:25 AM > To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Dooker's Hollow? > > Just wondered what is available about the residents of Dooker's Hollow in > the early 1900s. I know there is a Dooker's Hollow bridge in > Pittsburgh....and I know it was an area where many immigrants resided in > boarding houses, etc. > > Can it be picked out on a census of 1900 or 1910? > > Barbara - Uprooting family trees > and/or > Capt. Bill > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don't know if this is of any value but Roland Lang lived on Princeton Ave., Natrona Heights, Allegheny Co. He passed away about 15 years or so ago. He and his family were my mom's neighbors. Clare in Fla. -- Tomi Larson <tomil23@hotmail.com> wrote: Hello Bryan, If you do discover any of the Lang names I mentioned: John, Catharine, Margaret (Maggie), Joseph, Lillian Rose (Rosa, Rosie) let me know. I found that John must have emigrated around 1850, so it's possbile he came with other family members. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!� Play Star Shuffle:� the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<< Pennsylvania Open Records Law By Justin K. Houser Bellefonte, Pennsylvania Pennsylvania is considering an Open Records Law, currently known as House Bill 343. In its current state, the bill would "deem inaccessible" any record containing a birth date or address, among other items. If interpreted literally, this bill would seal birth, marriage, death, deed, probate, divorce, and hosts of other county court records. For as long as can be remembered, these records have been publicly accessible (with the exception of birth and death records after 1906, which are available through an application process), and have been abstracted, indexed, published, and disseminated in whole or in part by many genealogical societies. Going to the county offices and wading through these records is not the major source of identity theft this bill makes it out to be. Identity theft derives chiefly from carelessness with correspondence, which is rummaged through by thieves after it is discarded, or by thieves obtaining credit card and other information through fraudulent communications. This bill would make the work of genealogists, local historians, missing heirs, researchers, and individuals seeking to trace the history of a particular piece of property nearly impossible. I feel that the genealogical community needs to make its voice known by contacting the Pennsylvania Legislature and the governor's office to voice opposition to House Bill 343--particularly Section 307--and to push for an exception to be made in the case of the county "row office" records that have traditionally been available. In no way should the centuries-old ability to use these records by law-abiding citizens be shut off. We already have provisions in place to protect the most sensitive of these records. Marriage records do not even contain Social Security Numbers--they were redacted and are no longer visible. The same could be done with other instances of Social Security Numbers, which are generally not necessary in most public documents. (The Social Security Numbers of all deceased persons are already posted online at the Social Security Death Index. Rather than enhancing identity theft, this tool prevents it by enabling individuals to quickly check for fraudulent uses of Social Security Numbers.) Adoption records are sealed and accessible only by court order. Records of births and deaths are available for a $9.00 fee from the Department of Health. Other states are making their records more accessible, rather than less accessible. Several years ago, Texas released the index to births, marriages, and deaths as an online database, covering the years 1905 to the present. The city of Chicago, Illinois, is planning to digitize and release its records for historical inquiry in January. California has released a complete index to its death registers from 1940 to 1997. Ohio has also made death record indices available for a nominal cost, and records can be ordered through the state by any interested party. Arizona has released its death records via a public website, as has Utah and West Virginia, which I believe is also contemplating a similar procedure for marriage records. Georgia is releasing all of its death records to online public access, beginning with 1919. The leadership of the Pennsylvania Legislature can be found here: House: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/house/office rs.cfm Senate: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/senate/offic ers.cfm Governor: http://www.governor.state.pa.us/

Bryan, 30 yoa?? Wow! I remember when................. :-* Al At 07:35 AM 11/8/2007, you wrote: >Barb, > >As I was a member of St. Adalbert's, as well as an altar boy there in my >younger days (I'm 30), I'm quite aware. I remember the furor from >certain parishes in the SS when the diocese created Prince of Peace. > >Bryan.

Hello Bryan, If you do discover any of the Lang names I mentioned: John, Catharine, Margaret (Maggie), Joseph, Lillian Rose (Rosa, Rosie) let me know. I found that John must have emigrated around 1850, so it's possbile he came with other family members. Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct

Barb, As I was a member of St. Adalbert's, as well as an altar boy there in my younger days (I'm 30), I'm quite aware. I remember the furor from certain parishes in the SS when the diocese created Prince of Peace. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Mangan Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:37 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Bryan The email I sent you about Dr. Howard Lang, his office is in the South Hills. You do know that St. Michaels is no more. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:27:53 -0500 Not that I know of. Most of the ones I know attended St. Michael's on Pius. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenvale@starpower.net Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:56 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Bryan Were your Langs Lutheran? If so, did they attend First St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church on the South Side? Bill ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:59:00 -0500 >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) >To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > >My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. > >Bryan. > >________________________________ > >From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson >Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) > > > > >Hello Bryan, >I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. > >Tomi > >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 >> From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames >> To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm >> not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go >> home. >> >> Bryan. >> >>********** > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100 626971033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bryan The email I sent you about Dr. Howard Lang, his office is in the South Hills. You do know that St. Michaels is no more. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:27:53 -0500 Not that I know of. Most of the ones I know attended St. Michael's on Pius. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenvale@starpower.net Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:56 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Bryan Were your Langs Lutheran? If so, did they attend First St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church on the South Side? Bill ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:59:00 -0500 >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) >To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > >My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. > >Bryan. > >________________________________ > >From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson >Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) > > > > >Hello Bryan, >I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. > >Tomi > >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 >> From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames >> To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm >> not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go >> home. >> >> Bryan. >> >>********** > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100 626971033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for this link - it enabled me to find the obituary of a friend's father and had lots of other information. Helen in England On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:47:09 EST, BertaIllig@aol.com said: > > Current Pittsburgh Post Gazette Obits are now kept online for one year > at: > _http://www.legacy.com_ (http://www.legacy.com) OR you can search older > Post > Gazette Obits from early 2000 to present (except last 30 days) here: > _http://classified.post-gazette.com/obituaries/archive.asp_ > (http://classified.post-gazette.com/obituaries/archive.asp) - > Wilberta > > > > In a message dated 11/4/07 1:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kmurph@worldnet.att.net writes: > > I'm in Arizona. How can I get an obit from the Aug 30, 2007 issue of the > Pittsburgh Post Gazette? > > Thks, Ken > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Helen

Through the Pittsburgh and Allegheny directorys we have narrowed down the years that G-g-g-g-grandfather Patrick Joice/Joyce died. That would be from the 1860 census to 1864 directory where it has wife down as widow of Patrick It has down that she lived at Carson n First S P 1865 directory has her at same address. My question is this.. What Catholic Churches would there be in the general area of where she lived and what Cemeteries were around that area in that time period? This new find might help narrow down what Cemetery that they are both in. Thank you slc swtx

Not that I know of. Most of the ones I know attended St. Michael's on Pius. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenvale@starpower.net Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:56 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Bryan Were your Langs Lutheran? If so, did they attend First St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church on the South Side? Bill ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:59:00 -0500 >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) >To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > >My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. > >Bryan. > >________________________________ > >From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson >Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) > > > > >Hello Bryan, >I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. > >Tomi > >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 >> From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames >> To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm >> not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go >> home. >> >> Bryan. >> >>********** > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100 626971033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bryan The doctor that I went to for a while for my allergies was a Dr. Howard Lang. His office was on Brownsville Rd. in Brentwood. He was also an internist. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> Reply-To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:59:00 -0500 My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. Bryan. ________________________________ From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) Hello Bryan, I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. Tomi > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 > From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> > Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames > To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm > not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go > home. > > Bryan. > >********** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bryan Were your Langs Lutheran? If so, did they attend First St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church on the South Side? Bill ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:59:00 -0500 >From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) >To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> > >My Langs are in South Side/South Hills area as far as I can tell. There are quite a few of them, so I'm not 100% sure where they all were, but that's the general central point. > >Bryan. > >________________________________ > >From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Tomi Larson >Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 9:09 AM >To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft/Lang surnames (Bryan) > > > > >Hello Bryan, >I have the Langs in Ward 22 Pitts in 1870 and ward 20 in 1880. They were Catholic and lived on Shady Ave at one time. I believe John emigrated around 1850. I'm not sure if John and Catharine were married before or after they arrived in the U S. As I just discovered them last week I don't know a lot yet. They are my ggg grandparents. Look forward to hearing from you. > >Tomi > >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:38 -0500 >> From: "Szafranski, Bryan" <bszafranski1@pghboe.net> >> Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Kruft / Lang surnames >> To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <C2CBA05CFC23474FB8714AFE7F7994D305651ECF@EXCH-MSG-01.pghboe.loc> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Where was/is ward 7? I have a John/Catherine Lang connection, but I'm >> not sure if it is related to you or not. I'll have to check when I go >> home. >> >> Bryan. >> >>********** > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook - together at last. Get it now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message