All those who would like to see the older Pennsylvania death certificates go on-line, don't raise your hand. Instead, go to http://users.rcn.com/timarg/PaHR-Access.htm This not only drags PA into the 21st century but will also save you a few bucks when you need information on a death certificate.

Thanks Don - you are always very kind and helpful! Gina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Krieger" <dkrieger@alum.mit.edu> To: <pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Allegheny County Marriage Records > Dear Gina, > > The Allegheny County Register has records beginning in 1885. The first > index book, 1885-1925, may also be found on microfilm at the Carnegie > Library in Oakland. > > The library also has on microfilm and possibly in a print book minister > returns from 1875-1885 I think. I'm sure others on the list know the > precise limits of those records. I think that the Western PA Genealogical > Society has published a book of these early minister returns. It's on > their > website and probably in the Carnegie catalogue. There is also an index of > births, deaths, and marriages for 1852-1854 covering the entire > Commonwealth > county by county. > > There are also numerous extant church records covering the period in which > you are interested. > > Don > -----Original Message----- > From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Ramsey > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:24 PM > To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Allegheny County Marriage Records > > Hi All, > > Does anyone know how far back marriage records were kept in Allegheny > County? I am looking for a record from 1870, but I do not have the exact > date. Finally, do I contact the same courts that have them today? > > Thanks, > Gina >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, We have placed the complete 1946 Pittsburgh Phone Directory online at: http://directory.evendon.com <http://directory.evendon.com/> We hope you find it useful. We are slowing shooting and placing all our books up. Everything on our site is free and permanent. Don akadonnew@verizon.net

Dear Gina, The Allegheny County Register has records beginning in 1885. The first index book, 1885-1925, may also be found on microfilm at the Carnegie Library in Oakland. The library also has on microfilm and possibly in a print book minister returns from 1875-1885 I think. I'm sure others on the list know the precise limits of those records. I think that the Western PA Genealogical Society has published a book of these early minister returns. It's on their website and probably in the Carnegie catalogue. There is also an index of births, deaths, and marriages for 1852-1854 covering the entire Commonwealth county by county. There are also numerous extant church records covering the period in which you are interested. Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gina Ramsey Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:24 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Allegheny County Marriage Records Hi All, Does anyone know how far back marriage records were kept in Allegheny County? I am looking for a record from 1870, but I do not have the exact date. Finally, do I contact the same courts that have them today? Thanks, Gina > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Does anyone know how far back marriage records were kept in Allegheny County? I am looking for a record from 1870, but I do not have the exact date. Finally, do I contact the same courts that have them today? Thanks, Gina > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St Henry's is in the 16th Ward. Al At 12:58 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >Gina >I grew up in the 18th ward of Pittsburgh, Pa. I would think that would >include St. Canice, St. George, South Hills?not sure about St. Henry being >in the 18th ward. I also am not sure about St. Michael's being in the 18th >ward. >Does this help? >Barb > > > >tipperboo12@msn.com

I have on a family relative of mine from the Diocese of Pittsburgh - it is information about Leonard Schuck marriage to Mariam Scheitz and it shows a witness - Joannes Geissler. The name is in the latin form. My family is Leonard Schuck and it is dated March 13, 1882. Could this be a relative of yours? I know nothing about the Geisslers. Thank you, Sue -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tomi Larson Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:51 PM To: Pittsburgh Rootsweb Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] German surnames Hello, I have been researching my Geisler family from Pittsburgh and have run across a number of other German surnames who were either friends or relatives. Many of these people were witnesses to baptisms at Sts. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in the 1880s and 1890s. The Geislers lived in the 22nd Ward in 1870, 20 ward in 1880 on Shady Lane, Meadow Street in 1910 and Colombo Street. The surnames are: Sageman, Kruft, Ganster, Kirchner, Lauderheim, Suhr. Does anyone know of any relationships among these names? Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N165 3A ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have been researching my Geisler family from Pittsburgh and have run across a number of other German surnames who were either friends or relatives. Many of these people were witnesses to baptisms at Sts. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in the 1880s and 1890s. The Geislers lived in the 22nd Ward in 1870, 20 ward in 1880 on Shady Lane, Meadow Street in 1910 and Colombo Street. The surnames are: Sageman, Kruft, Ganster, Kirchner, Lauderheim, Suhr. Does anyone know of any relationships among these names? Tomi _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A

The problem is that each big tract of land was broken into 10s of tracts each with separate lot and block numbers in the 1940s after the war. Originally I had intended to do exactly what you suggested, but the people at the Recorder of Deeds office convinced me that it would take hours and hours. I had hoped that the property history cards which they have in Room 303 might allow me to find the current location, but one has to have a lot and block and the histories do not go back farther than 1948. We are talking about 110 years of subdividing the farm. So, thanks for the tip about the id numbers. I will go out to Forliview Road and have a look around. Deb **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Dear Deb, It sounds like it would be worthwhile to track through the deeds on at least one of the properties to the present. Once you have the name and present day description of the location of the property, you can find it on the Assessment site: http://www2.county.allegheny.pa.us/RealEstate/Search.asp Notice that each property there has a parcel ID. The first 3 fields of this ID are almost the same for adjacent properties. So once you have a parcel ID for one of the properties, you can find the others, see the names of the owners and addresses, and lay them out on one of Internet mapping facilities or even use the one right on the assessment site itself. I can help with the Assessment lookups if there is something you want to do which their search doesn't seem to allow. Don akadonnew@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mckayeire@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:21 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Cc: OLeoghain@aol.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Jeannette U. Lenkner -deed from John A. Denham,Mary E. Denham, Jennie K. Denham Al - I believe one of your ancestors bought land from one of my ancestors. see below. Jeannette U. Lenkner bought a parcel of land on 5/3/1897 in Shaler from the estate of Alexander Denham(husband of Mary Logan Denham). See Volume 967 page 154 of the Deed books The sellers were John A. Denham, Mary E. Denham, Jennie K. Denham Are there any people on the PA-PITTSBURGH list with ancestors Clara M. Rodgers (Rogers), Robert A. Gilfillan, Jeannette U. Lenkner? Or familiar with the Shaler area west of Glenshaw? I am looking for the present location of the Samuel Logan farm which was broken up and sold to those persons in 1896. Boundaries were North - land of John Scott, East land of R.S. Thompson West land of B. Seibert and m. Voeghtly South land of Mary Logan Denham Mary Logan's land was: sold to the three people listed above. formerly belonged to Mary Quigg - identified as Lot number 29 in the Jones 1st District of Depreciation lands. I went to the Recorder of Deeds office today and one of their map experts helped me as much as he could. I have a map from 1876 which shows the farm east of Glenshaw with Little Pine Creek running through it - right near the Ross township border. We think we narrowed it down to an area called Forliview No 1 - 4 in the 1948 maps on Sheet J. Thanks. Deb Logan, Pittsburgh **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Al - I believe one of your ancestors bought land from one of my ancestors. see below. Jeannette U. Lenkner bought a parcel of land on 5/3/1897 in Shaler from the estate of Alexander Denham(husband of Mary Logan Denham). See Volume 967 page 154 of the Deed books The sellers were John A. Denham, Mary E. Denham, Jennie K. Denham Are there any people on the PA-PITTSBURGH list with ancestors Clara M. Rodgers (Rogers), Robert A. Gilfillan, Jeannette U. Lenkner? Or familiar with the Shaler area west of Glenshaw? I am looking for the present location of the Samuel Logan farm which was broken up and sold to those persons in 1896. Boundaries were North - land of John Scott, East land of R.S. Thompson West land of B. Seibert and m. Voeghtly South land of Mary Logan Denham Mary Logan's land was: sold to the three people listed above. formerly belonged to Mary Quigg - identified as Lot number 29 in the Jones 1st District of Depreciation lands. I went to the Recorder of Deeds office today and one of their map experts helped me as much as he could. I have a map from 1876 which shows the farm east of Glenshaw with Little Pine Creek running through it - right near the Ross township border. We think we narrowed it down to an area called Forliview No 1 - 4 in the 1948 maps on Sheet J. Thanks. Deb Logan, Pittsburgh **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Aaaaaah, something refreshing. An honest Irishman!! I've always been told that Irish is ALWAYS green. :-D :-D At 05:46 AM 4/6/2008, you wrote: >Thank you so much Eve agus Don, > >I very much appreciate your contributions to the listers. > >With all good wishes from snowy Ireland. > >Deirdre

Thank you so much Eve agus Don, I very much appreciate your contributions to the listers. With all good wishes from snowy Ireland. Deirdre -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Krieger Sent: 05 April 2008 23:45 To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Church Anniversary Books Online Dear List, We have placed several church anniversary books on our site: http://www.evendon.com Go to the "SmallBooks" section. There you will find a group entitled Pittsburgh Religious Community. We hope you enjoy them. Eve and Don ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, We have placed several church anniversary books on our site: http://www.evendon.com Go to the "SmallBooks" section. There you will find a group entitled Pittsburgh Religious Community. We hope you enjoy them. Eve and Don

Dear Bea, George Pohrer shows up in the 1900 City Directory on our website. Our 1946 phone book, not yet online, also shows a George and it shows a Mary Helen Pohrer, a registered nurse. We do have nursing school alumni directories in the "Small Books" section of our site for Mercy, Passavant, Allegheny General, and West Penn. This Mary Helen also may appear in the Secretary of State's online professional license registry. Our site is: http://www.evendon.com Don -----Original Message----- From: pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pa-pittsburgh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beatrice M Jamison Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:28 PM To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Looking for Dsecendants of Mary Hinterlang Pohrer Looking for Descendants of Mary Hinterlang Pohrer b: 1863 in Alsace-Lorraine, France and married George Pohrer, according to the 1930 census they lived in Bellevue, Allegheny Co., PA The couple had three girls, Agnes K Pohrer, Mary I Pohrer and Elizabeth R Pohrer. I would appreciate any info on this family, I would greatly like to know Mary's death date. Please Help Bea in West Sunbury, PA Thought for the day: May God richly bless you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for Descendants of Mary Hinterlang Pohrer b: 1863 in Alsace-Lorraine, France and married George Pohrer, according to the 1930 census they lived in Bellevue, Allegheny Co., PA The couple had three girls, Agnes K Pohrer, Mary I Pohrer and Elizabeth R Pohrer. I would appreciate any info on this family, I would greatly like to know Mary's death date. Please Help Bea in West Sunbury, PA Thought for the day: May God richly bless you.

Marybeth I looked again in that firemens book but nothing about him. I will contact Al and see if he found any other books. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: acmbjc@aol.com<mailto:acmbjc@aol.com> To: pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com<mailto:pa-pittsburgh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [PA-PITTSBURGH] Firemen's History question Barb, I am very interested in this topic, as I believe my greatgrandmother's older brother, a Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1851/52, PA might have been a fireman.? On the Historic Pgh site I found a Patrick Kelly along with a Charles Kneeland (a great-great aunt was married to Walter Kneeland;? I also believe Charles was his father or uncle). Could you possibly check the source you refer to, and see if there is any mention of either of these guys?? With a name like "Patrick Kelly", he's been one tough person to track.? Last known location for him is in the 1880 Allegheny Co., census, living with his mother, Mary [Ann] nee DOLAN KELLY HALL.? She is a widow.? After this I have no idea where he ended up, or when he died, who he married, etc. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. Thanks so much for your time. Marybeth Corrigall In a message dated 3/2/08 10:45:19 PM, tipperboo12@msn.com<mailto:tipperboo12@msn.com> writes: tipperboo12@msn.com<mailto:tipperboo12@msn.com> >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-PITTSBURGH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb, I am very interested in this topic, as I believe my greatgrandmother's older brother, a Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1851/52, PA might have been a fireman.? On the Historic Pgh site I found a Patrick Kelly along with a Charles Kneeland (a great-great aunt was married to Walter Kneeland;? I also believe Charles was his father or uncle). Could you possibly check the source you refer to, and see if there is any mention of either of these guys?? With a name like "Patrick Kelly", he's been one tough person to track.? Last known location for him is in the 1880 Allegheny Co., census, living with his mother, Mary [Ann] nee DOLAN KELLY HALL.? She is a widow.? After this I have no idea where he ended up, or when he died, who he married, etc. Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. Thanks so much for your time. Marybeth Corrigall In a message dated 3/2/08 10:45:19 PM, tipperboo12@msn.com writes: tipperboo12@msn.com >>

Dear Pittsburgh List, We're excited to report that we've purchased the Centennial Book for the 1st Presbyterian Church here in Pittsburgh. The book was published in 1884 and covers the 100 year period: 1784-1884. We will be placing it online as soon as we receive it along with a number of old pamphlet size publications we have collected from other churches in the area. We will place these in the "Religious Community" SMALL BOOKS on our website: http://www.evendon.com Eve and Don Krieger

Once again I am tossing out a line to see if anyone on the list has a connection to the family of Nathaniel O. LOCK of Pittsburgh, Pa. Nathaniel O. LOCK moved from Baltimore, Md. to Pittsburgh (Alleghany City), Pa. in the 1830's Nathaniel's family changed the spelling sometime in the 1840's to 1850's by adding the "e" onto the end, as did the other branches of this family. Here is a brief synopsis of Nathaniel O. LOCK's family Parents: Nathaniel LOCK and Amelia HAND, both of Baltimore, Md. Nathaniel O. LOCK; b. 1806, Baltimore Md. d. December 12, 1843 Alleghany City, Pa. 1st marriage: Mary Lear READ; May 15, 1825 in Baltimore, Md. 2nd marriage: Mary Ann STEWART; June 7 1827 in Baltimore, Md. Children of Nathaniel O. LOCK & Mary Ann STEWART: William H. LOCK (m) b. 1828, Baltimore Md. E. Virginia LOCK (f) b. 1832, Baltimore Md. Mary A. LOCK (f) b. 1834, in Virginia (location unknown) Sarah J. LOCK (f) b. 1837, Allegheny City, Pa. Charles Edward LOCK (m) b. 1839, Allegheny City, Pa. Thomas J. LOCK (m) b. 1841, Allegheny City, Pa. Isabella S. LOCK (f) b. 1844, Allegheny City, Pa. If anyone has links to this family, I would dearly love to hear from them. Thank you. -geo George F. Locke Raleigh, NC, USA