Sorry, Albert, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and be kind. Susan ----- Original Message ----- > Susan, > > And I wish it was 60 seconds! > > Al --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/10/2001

Al, you seem to know Pittsburgh well. Trinity Church at 25th and Smallman in the Strip District; do you happen to know who owns the building? Do you happen to know what it's last denominational affiliation was? When it was last used as a church? Family history states that one of my great grandmothers is buried there and I would like to know who to contact for info. Thanks, Janet Currie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Bates Street > Jean, > > There hasn't been anything that could be called a house at 2nd and Bates > for the last 50 years and I doubt if there was much in the way of housing > before that. Both 2nd Ave and Bates St have been around for a long > time. The B & O crosses Bates on a trestle at the very bottom of > Bates. Bates doesn't continue on the other side of 2nd Ave. That was J&L > property as long as I can recall and was probably industrial property of > some sort for at least 100 years. > > The remark about Bates St being in the 23rd Ward threw me off......... for > a moment. I check the 1911 Historical Society's reprint to see if there > was another Bates St at one time whose name had been changed. No such > animal. The old 23rd Ward is now the 15th Ward and encompasses Greenfield > and Hazelwood. Bates is considered part of Oakland, the 4th and formerly > the 14th Ward. > > If there are any pictures, you would find them in the photo archives of the > Historical Society or the Carnegie Library but the chances are very slim. > > Al > > > > At 09:46 PM 10/20/2001, you wrote: > >My great-grandmother, LIZZIE LENDAK, married GEORGE YATSCO, > >somewhere in Pittsburgh. What I have is a death certificate > >of Mr. Yatsco, on which it states that he resided on Bates > >St. He died January 24, 1891. On May 8, 1893, she married > >JOHN GUJAS, my g'g'father, at St. Nicholas Greek Catholic > >Church in Duquesne, PA. They both stated they lived on > >Bates St. They lived in Pittsburgh until between 1904 and > >1906, when they moved to York Run, PA. Is there any way to > >find out which house they lived in, and maybe get a picture > >or some history, i.e., was it a boarding house in those > >days? By the way, Mr. Yatsco lived at "2nd Ave and Bates > >St" and was "crushed by a B & O RR at Bates St, 23rd Ward" > >as stated on the death certificate. Any helpful hints out > >there? I have looked through some city directories in that > >time period, but find nothing. I also can find nothing else > >through the family, of which there are only two children > >left. > > > >Thanks for any help, > > > >jean schmidt > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen, and Westie > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Jean, I would love to find a site for Pittsburgh archive obits if you get it. Thanks, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean" <nandj@qwest.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:02 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] OBITS > Jo, where did you get the obit from the Pittsburgh Press? > I'd appreciate the info, as I have some people I'd like to > look up. > > Thanks, > > jean schmidt > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Jean, There hasn't been anything that could be called a house at 2nd and Bates for the last 50 years and I doubt if there was much in the way of housing before that. Both 2nd Ave and Bates St have been around for a long time. The B & O crosses Bates on a trestle at the very bottom of Bates. Bates doesn't continue on the other side of 2nd Ave. That was J&L property as long as I can recall and was probably industrial property of some sort for at least 100 years. The remark about Bates St being in the 23rd Ward threw me off......... for a moment. I check the 1911 Historical Society's reprint to see if there was another Bates St at one time whose name had been changed. No such animal. The old 23rd Ward is now the 15th Ward and encompasses Greenfield and Hazelwood. Bates is considered part of Oakland, the 4th and formerly the 14th Ward. If there are any pictures, you would find them in the photo archives of the Historical Society or the Carnegie Library but the chances are very slim. Al At 09:46 PM 10/20/2001, you wrote: >My great-grandmother, LIZZIE LENDAK, married GEORGE YATSCO, >somewhere in Pittsburgh. What I have is a death certificate >of Mr. Yatsco, on which it states that he resided on Bates >St. He died January 24, 1891. On May 8, 1893, she married >JOHN GUJAS, my g'g'father, at St. Nicholas Greek Catholic >Church in Duquesne, PA. They both stated they lived on >Bates St. They lived in Pittsburgh until between 1904 and >1906, when they moved to York Run, PA. Is there any way to >find out which house they lived in, and maybe get a picture >or some history, i.e., was it a boarding house in those >days? By the way, Mr. Yatsco lived at "2nd Ave and Bates >St" and was "crushed by a B & O RR at Bates St, 23rd Ward" >as stated on the death certificate. Any helpful hints out >there? I have looked through some city directories in that >time period, but find nothing. I also can find nothing else >through the family, of which there are only two children >left. > >Thanks for any help, > >jean schmidt > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Barb, Watch it! Halloween is approaching and the fangs of you-know-who will start to appear and she thirsts for blood! Al At 09:15 PM 10/20/2001, you wrote: >Hi Sue >Poor Al, he did not do anything wrong. He was complimented for his helping >people and I just reinforced it. >Barb > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, >Palm-Gen, and Westie > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Sue I contacted Bob who orginally listed the url. He gave me a new one. Try: http://www.mudcat.org/!! Barb

Hi Sue Poor Al, he did not do anything wrong. He was complimented for his helping people and I just reinforced it. Barb

Hi Nangelbuddy Could not get this website. Barb

Sharon, Glad you found the site. The two women who were working there the day I went were very knowledgeable and very helpful. Hope you get answers to your questions. Judy

Jo, where did you get the obit from the Pittsburgh Press? I'd appreciate the info, as I have some people I'd like to look up. Thanks, jean schmidt

My great-grandmother, LIZZIE LENDAK, married GEORGE YATSCO, somewhere in Pittsburgh. What I have is a death certificate of Mr. Yatsco, on which it states that he resided on Bates St. He died January 24, 1891. On May 8, 1893, she married JOHN GUJAS, my g'g'father, at St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church in Duquesne, PA. They both stated they lived on Bates St. They lived in Pittsburgh until between 1904 and 1906, when they moved to York Run, PA. Is there any way to find out which house they lived in, and maybe get a picture or some history, i.e., was it a boarding house in those days? By the way, Mr. Yatsco lived at "2nd Ave and Bates St" and was "crushed by a B & O RR at Bates St, 23rd Ward" as stated on the death certificate. Any helpful hints out there? I have looked through some city directories in that time period, but find nothing. I also can find nothing else through the family, of which there are only two children left. Thanks for any help, jean schmidt

I didn't catch the first message, but I have "The Verona Cemetery in Oakmont, PA" book. I got it from Mechling Books in Butler a while back, and I think they said at the time, it was their last copy. What did you need? Donna

Susan, And I wish it was 60 seconds! Al At 02:13 PM 10/20/2001, you wrote: >Albert, >No smart remarks are necesary. I think you having a 60 second memory is >great. >Susan >----- Original Message ----- > > > Listers, > > > > I want to thank all of you who responded. Publicly and privately, I had > > about 21 responses and the URLs were all the same, although I seem to > > recall that the time span covered was greater......... at least greater > > than my memory, and I don't need any smart remarks about my age, Susan! > > > > Al > > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Albert, No smart remarks are necesary. I think you having a 60 second memory is great. Susan ----- Original Message ----- > Listers, > > I want to thank all of you who responded. Publicly and privately, I had > about 21 responses and the URLs were all the same, although I seem to > recall that the time span covered was greater......... at least greater > than my memory, and I don't need any smart remarks about my age, Susan! > > Al --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001

Listers, I want to thank all of you who responded. Publicly and privately, I had about 21 responses and the URLs were all the same, although I seem to recall that the time span covered was greater......... at least greater than my memory, and I don't need any smart remarks about my age, Susan! Al At 11:18 AM 10/20/2001, you wrote: >Al, >Were you asking about this? Can't remember, but found this on an other >list. >Search for surnames for Ohio Deaths 1913 - 1935 at: > >http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/index.cfm > >Sue McAlister >http://homepages.about.com/tomssue/mcalisterpainterbickhartfamily/ >PA-PITTSBURGH and PA-WESTMORELAND-HISTORIC list owner >BALLES, ECKER, KELLAWAY, KELLOWAY, MCCALLISTER, MCALLISTER, SKELLY >surname list owner. >Adoption, Mystery, Horror, Stay-At-Home-Moms, Mother's Without Custody, >Nost-TV, Palm-Gen and Westie community lists owner. > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

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I believe that would be Lawrenceville now. Gobnait Ni Leocháin Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

Al, Were you asking about this? Can't remember, but found this on an other list. Search for surnames for Ohio Deaths 1913 - 1935 at: http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/index.cfm Sue McAlister http://homepages.about.com/tomssue/mcalisterpainterbickhartfamily/ PA-PITTSBURGH and PA-WESTMORELAND-HISTORIC list owner BALLES, ECKER, KELLAWAY, KELLOWAY, MCCALLISTER, MCALLISTER, SKELLY surname list owner. Adoption, Mystery, Horror, Stay-At-Home-Moms, Mother's Without Custody, Nost-TV, Palm-Gen and Westie community lists owner. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001

I have not done much research on the Steen line since it is not a direct relationship so I can't give much help as far as Mary Jane Steen Logan. Stella Steen was the daughter of William John Steen and Sarah Ireland (daughter of Thomas & Jane Ireland). My gg granduncle, James Samuel Montgomery, was first married to Jennie Ireland, whom I believe to be Sarah Ireland's sister since Stella and 2 young siblings are buried in James Montgomery lot in Allegheny cemetery. William John Steen was the son of David Steen and Mary Dickson. David and Mary, according to his biography in the "History of Allegheny County" had 5 living children when the bio was written: William John Steen, Thomas D. Steen, James B. Steen, Margaret Steen Walker, and Rachel Steen Blackmore. (The last name is so similar to your Rachel Moore Steen that maybe there is a connection?) The family was Presbyterian. Jo

Hi, Judy, Thank you for the site - worked first time, so perhaps the problem is with your system. Thought I'd pass along to anyone else who might be interested - the Society does searches, $15.00 per hour for nonmembers and $10.00 for member. For those of us out of the state, it sounds like a great source. Sharon in CA -----Original Message----- From: FHA@aol.com <FHA@aol.com> To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 20, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] McKeesport >Sharon, > >Sorry, sent the last one before I was barely started on the message. Anyway, >have you tried to contact the McKeesport Heritage Center? I did a search and >their website is www.15122.com/MckHeritage/info.htm. However, the site did >not respond for me but I've tried other sites and not had a response either >so don't know if it's me or them with the problem. >I visited there earlier this year and found relatives and the businesses they >owned listed in the city directories. I don't know how much they charge for >lookups, but you might want to try the site. >Judy Fish Annessi > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >