Sue, You're forgiven! Al At 09:00 PM 10/30/2001, you wrote: >Sorry, the link didn't come through: >http://home.att.net/~poofcatt/july.html >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > I Pledge Allegiance -- By Red Skelton > > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001 > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Anyone having the EXACT LOCATION (numbers) of the City County building please post the address. I would also like to write for records & courthouse too, also. You forget, dear folks that we're not there, & not familiar with the details that's why we're asking in the first place. I used to live there too, & you just don't know how important it is for details to someone that ain't! Grin! By the way, www.mapquest.com has some great aerial shots also for those that need them, looking from a different perspective. & can be looked at for directions to places everywhere, if someone wants. ( I did try to find info before I wrote the list) Thanks, Cathy Raber > From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net> > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Re: PA-PITTSBURGH-D Digest V01 #329 > > Jean, > > You can write to the Recorder of Deeds on Ross Street at the County Office > Building. That's were the records of all deeds going back to the formation > of Allegheny County. I would imagine that they will copy the deeds but I > don't know what the cost is. Are there any listers who would know the > information Jean is looking for? > > Al > > > > At 01:58 PM 10/22/2001, you wrote: > >Al, Thank you for the info on the city assessment site. > >They don't go very far back as far as previous owners. Do > >you know where that information would be? I live in > >Enumclaw, WA, and can't get there personally. Do I write > >the assessment site, or what??? Thanks for your help. > >jean schmidt > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog --- --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Nancy, & other listers, Just because us women haven't been trained in firearms, as a rule doesn't mean that we shouldn't be. Depending on the background, kids aren't being taught the do's & don'ts, ya hear about the kids shooting each other here in FL, perhaps we need some "older folks to "step up to the plate, & teach them. The world is a sometimes cruel place, & we all need to stay alert, & perhaps be alittle more self-suffient, instead of "feeling like it's a man's job!" The pioneer women, God Bless 'em had to". I applaud the women, nowadays that take on the challenge of the military, because us women are tough too! The knowing "how to do something" is important in every walk of life". ( I personally have a niece that just graduated from the Annapolis Naval Academy in May, so everyone is affected by this tragedy in a way! The present day women are out there, taking care of more than just their families, & need that extra support from other mom's & grandparents too! I do support them! As everyone tries to get back to "normal" if there is one! Cathy Raber > [Original Message] > From: Al Lenkner <alenkner@stargate.net> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/29/01 3:12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Security issues > > Nancy, > > I don't know where you got the idea but all military people are not trained > killers. What every recruit undergoes in basic or boot is firearm > instruction: how to clean, load, dismantle and fire the weapon(s) of the > day. After boot camp or basic training, you transfer to a specialty school > where you study whatever field your entrance exams show your aptitude to > be, whether mechanical, electrical, electronics, administration, cooking, > firefighters, police........... whatever. All military installations are > like small towns and are pretty self-sufficient. > > Al > > > > > At 12:31 AM 10/29/2001, you wrote: > >Just wanted to add that my sister, who is a retired Lt. Commander in the > >NAVY was stationed at the NATO installation in Iceland during Desert Storm. > >She was in communications and said they had multiple threats each and every > >day she was there and we would be surprised how many were stopped. Maybe > >what we (meaning the average citizen) don't know did hurt us. Or maybe it > >had been building up for longer than we realize. Don't know. > > > >Another thing to remember is that all military personnel are basically > >trained killers. It is their job and for a LONG time they have NOT had to > >do their "job". I am not trying to lay blame, but am trying to get it > >all straight in MY head. Did any of you out there suffer a close loss? > >Our son's boss was on one of the planes that hit the WTC. And the TJX > >company (TJMAXX & Marshall's) lost 7 people. I used to work for Marshall's. > >I agree that we need to work as a team and stay united. God Bless America. > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > >Check out these COMMUNITY LISTS: MyStErY, Horror, SAHM, M-W-C, Nost-TV, > >Palm-Gen, and Westie > > > >============================== > >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 --- --- pigeonrock@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Yes, it is....you can probably find it in any bookstore now.....this week's episode was even more moving than Schindler's list, I thought, because it caught the emotions of not only the prisoners, but of the soldiers too....and let me say that I wouldn't wish Joe Liebgott's agony about telling the prisoners that they had to return to the camp on anyone.... B. -----Original Message----- From: Sue M [mailto:starshine166@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:57 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Band of Brothers Bryan, It's excellent and the acting is outstanding. The best mini series I have ever seen and I'm sure it's going to walk away with a lot of awards. I think having the majority of the cast as 'unknowns' was a benefit that proved to be an advantage. I didn't know that it had been a book. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Sue, I'm watching it religiously. I first read Dr. Ambrose's book years > ago, when it first came out (I was working at the South Side Library then) > and I immediately went out and bought my own copy. It think that Donnie > Whalberg as Carwood Lipton, Ron Livingston as Lewis Nixon, and the guy that > plays Dick Winters are all excellent for the parts. The rest of the cast is > equally as talented, IMHO. > > Bryan. > --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001 ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238

Sue Was there a part of red skelton's Pledge of Allegence that you left oul. Barb

Thanks, Al. The book sounds like a great deal. Nora > The only site that I'm aware of with maps on Pgh in the early 20th century > is the digital Pitt site. However, in addition to Pitt's site, the > Genealogical Society sells a reprint of the 1911 Atlas of the City of > Pittsburgh. I think the cost is $16. It shows each ward as it is in 1911 > and the old ward numbers in smaller print. There is also an index in the > back with all of the street names and any changes of those names. It's > well worth the price. > > You can write to: > > Western PA Genealogical Society > Carnegie Library of Pgh > 4400 Forbes Ave > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > > Al >

Sorry, the link didn't come through: http://home.att.net/~poofcatt/july.html ----- Original Message ----- > > > I Pledge Allegiance -- By Red Skelton --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001

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Barb, My dad's a WWII & Korean War vet., my brother a vet of Viet Nam having survived two tours of duty in that hell hole. For some reason, watching these movies and reading the books don't bother them. It definitely would bother me, too realistic, like living it all over again. My sympathy to you and your family over the loss of your brother. It's sad that his wife was so childish and inflicted emotional turmoil between siblings. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Sue > That's exactly why I did't watch Band of Brothers. My brother,a vet of WWll > died a month ago. His wife put a wrench between us. She is a self absorbed, > miserable person. Tried to hurt me through my kids. > Barb --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001

Hi Sue That's exactly why I did't watch Band of Brothers. My brother,a vet of WWll died a month ago. His wife put a wrench between us. She is a self absorbed, miserable person. Tried to hurt me through my kids. Barb

Ray That is a great link. Many thanks. Nora > This link will lead you tos all kinds od great old maps of Pgh: > > http://digital.library.pitt.edu/pittsburgh/mainpage.html > > Ray >

Carol, I wish I had done that, started taping it from the beginning. I'm hoping that HBO will offer it for sale, as they usually do. The episode this past Sunday left me speechless. I've watched quite a number of documentaries and movies on the Holocaust and have never seen anything as realistic as this was. Impressive and moving, wow! Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Sue, I'm taping every hour - in fact signed up for cable tv simply to do so. > The last hour brought me to tears. I was in high school during those years, > had a boy friend flying in bombing missions over Germany. Carol S. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue M" <starshine166@home.com> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:42 PM > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Security issues > > > > This is a little off of the topic at hand, but is anyone watching Band of > > Brothers on HBO? What a moving and gut wrenching mini series. > > Sue* > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > I don't know if the training is different now but when I was sent to Korea > > in > > the fifties we were told it is better to wound the enemy than kill him. An > > army could be totally crippled by a lot of wounded because the logistics > to > > provide the care takes an incredible amount of people and resources as > > opposed to just leaving the dead laying around. > > I don't think I am a trained killer. I have fired 30 and 50 caliber > machine > > guns, M1 and Carbine rifles, 45 caliber side arms. Also some artillery and > > B.A.R. weapons. > > I am home for almost 50 years and have yet to find a need to purchase a > > weapon or gun of any kind. Having said that I am absolutely opposed to gun > > control of almost any kind. I am for nutso control though. > > Best regards, Walt > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001

Bryan, It's excellent and the acting is outstanding. The best mini series I have ever seen and I'm sure it's going to walk away with a lot of awards. I think having the majority of the cast as 'unknowns' was a benefit that proved to be an advantage. I didn't know that it had been a book. Sue* ----- Original Message ----- > Sue, I'm watching it religiously. I first read Dr. Ambrose's book years > ago, when it first came out (I was working at the South Side Library then) > and I immediately went out and bought my own copy. It think that Donnie > Whalberg as Carwood Lipton, Ron Livingston as Lewis Nixon, and the guy that > plays Dick Winters are all excellent for the parts. The rest of the cast is > equally as talented, IMHO. > > Bryan. > --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.291 / Virus Database: 156 - Release Date: 10/25/2001

Nora, The only site that I'm aware of with maps on Pgh in the early 20th century is the digital Pitt site. However, in addition to Pitt's site, the Genealogical Society sells a reprint of the 1911 Atlas of the City of Pittsburgh. I think the cost is $16. It shows each ward as it is in 1911 and the old ward numbers in smaller print. There is also an index in the back with all of the street names and any changes of those names. It's well worth the price. You can write to: Western PA Genealogical Society Carnegie Library of Pgh 4400 Forbes Ave Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Al At 09:00 PM 10/29/2001, you wrote: >About a month ago, SKS gave me a site that had maps of Pittsburgh in the >early 20th century. (Was that you, Al?). Unfortunately, I had to reformat my >hard drive (avoid that at all costs!) and forgot to save my bookmarks (dumb!). > >So SKS, please help. > >Also, does anyone know if there is a site that shows the maps with the wards >boundaries? > >And finally, where can I get a list that shows what the wards' number in 1900 >converted to in 1910? > >Thanks. > >Nora FitzGerald > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Sue, I'm taping every hour - in fact signed up for cable tv simply to do so. The last hour brought me to tears. I was in high school during those years, had a boy friend flying in bombing missions over Germany. Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue M" <starshine166@home.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Security issues > This is a little off of the topic at hand, but is anyone watching Band of > Brothers on HBO? What a moving and gut wrenching mini series. > Sue* > > -------Original Message------- > > I don't know if the training is different now but when I was sent to Korea > in > the fifties we were told it is better to wound the enemy than kill him. An > army could be totally crippled by a lot of wounded because the logistics to > provide the care takes an incredible amount of people and resources as > opposed to just leaving the dead laying around. > I don't think I am a trained killer. I have fired 30 and 50 caliber machine > guns, M1 and Carbine rifles, 45 caliber side arms. Also some artillery and > B.A.R. weapons. > I am home for almost 50 years and have yet to find a need to purchase a > weapon or gun of any kind. Having said that I am absolutely opposed to gun > control of almost any kind. I am for nutso control though. > Best regards, Walt > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 >

Sue, I'm watching it religiously. I first read Dr. Ambrose's book years ago, when it first came out (I was working at the South Side Library then) and I immediately went out and bought my own copy. It think that Donnie Whalberg as Carwood Lipton, Ron Livingston as Lewis Nixon, and the guy that plays Dick Winters are all excellent for the parts. The rest of the cast is equally as talented, IMHO. Bryan. -----Original Message----- From: Sue M [mailto:starshine166@home.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:42 PM To: PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Security issues This is a little off of the topic at hand, but is anyone watching Band of Brothers on HBO? What a moving and gut wrenching mini series. Sue* -------Original Message------- I don't know if the training is different now but when I was sent to Korea in the fifties we were told it is better to wound the enemy than kill him. An army could be totally crippled by a lot of wounded because the logistics to provide the care takes an incredible amount of people and resources as opposed to just leaving the dead laying around. I don't think I am a trained killer. I have fired 30 and 50 caliber machine guns, M1 and Carbine rifles, 45 caliber side arms. Also some artillery and B.A.R. weapons. I am home for almost 50 years and have yet to find a need to purchase a weapon or gun of any kind. Having said that I am absolutely opposed to gun control of almost any kind. I am for nutso control though. Best regards, Walt ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom ============================== Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238

It really is a good site, but then I'm a ghoul, so what else would you expect me to say J* -------Original Message------- Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] ROOTSWEB HALLOWEEN: TALES OF THE CRYPT That's what I figured from the beginning and why I killed the message........... but not the messenger. J*

This is a little off of the topic at hand, but is anyone watching Band of Brothers on HBO? What a moving and gut wrenching mini series. Sue* -------Original Message------- I don't know if the training is different now but when I was sent to Korea in the fifties we were told it is better to wound the enemy than kill him. An army could be totally crippled by a lot of wounded because the logistics to provide the care takes an incredible amount of people and resources as opposed to just leaving the dead laying around. I don't think I am a trained killer. I have fired 30 and 50 caliber machine guns, M1 and Carbine rifles, 45 caliber side arms. Also some artillery and B.A.R. weapons. I am home for almost 50 years and have yet to find a need to purchase a weapon or gun of any kind. Having said that I am absolutely opposed to gun control of almost any kind. I am for nutso control though. Best regards, Walt

Hi List finally found my grandmother and grandfather on the 1920 census now my question to the group where it says township or other division of county the census taker filled in 2nd class city now I know they lived either in Woods Run or North side ward 27 why would it be called that. Also on the census where it tells what country they are from it has Austria and next to that it has either g-s or j-s can't tell. anyone know what that means Thanks in advance Donna Tacodmk@aol.com

About a month ago, SKS gave me a site that had maps of Pittsburgh in the early 20th century. (Was that you, Al?). Unfortunately, I had to reformat my hard drive (avoid that at all costs!) and forgot to save my bookmarks (dumb!). So SKS, please help. Also, does anyone know if there is a site that shows the maps with the wards boundaries? And finally, where can I get a list that shows what the wards' number in 1900 converted to in 1910? Thanks. Nora FitzGerald