I don't know if it should be called Accidental Tourist or Weekend at Bernie's. Who knew dead people would be so hard to find. We got out to the 'burgh about 2 Friday afternoon. Using my husband's scant memory (his family is from Pittsburgh), we went searching. First we went to Mt. Calvary. Pat, (husband) thought his aunt was buried here. They were expecting a funeral and weren't sure if they could help us. After explaining we drove in from the other side of the state and couldn't come back Monday they agreed to look in computer. Guess what, not there. It seems in 1960s they only buried Lutherans, we were looking for Catholics. 2. Right up the street was St. Mary's. Not having written done Norm's info, I wasn't sure if it was the right one for the Markey family. We got to the office, hours 9-5 M-F and there was a sign on the door. Hours by appointment only and no one was around. But we did get a beautiful view of the whole city. At this point I was ready to give up. Looked at the map and decided Resurrection looked like it might be a Catholic cemetery. Hit PAYDIRT. The gentleman at the counter was wonderful!!!! When he couldn't find anyone we were looking for at Resurrection he checked Holy Souls and found someone with the McCaffrey surname. He gave me a map and counted out rows so we could find the correct gravesite. We almost missed Holy Souls because we missed the right exit and drove past it on the Parkway. Frustrated I said skip it. My husband, (not into genealogy) said we were going to find a dead person we knew. Going back was worth it, we found my mother in law's long lost father's gravesite. I couldn't believe the luck. I thought he fell off the face of the earth. The thing that really bothered my was that at Holy Souls and St. Philip's in Crafton, they graves were in such a sorry state. Broken tombstones, embedded in the ground. It was really sad. Just wanted to share. I finally found something even if we really had to work for it. Lori

As I recall, it was not closer than a cousin third time removed. That would be a descendent of one of your g-grandparents brother or sister. Carol S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cotter, Anna" <Anna.Cotter@ca.com> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: RE: [PITTSBURGH] Question? > I do remember being asked a question when I got married whether the my spouse was related to me. I think it is related to PA law. A couple I know who are first cousins (not really but that's another story) had to get married in Maryland because of this law. > > >Does anyone know the PA or Allegheny County law about marrying kin? How > > > >close of cousin can one marry? > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

I do remember being asked a question when I got married whether the my spouse was related to me. I think it is related to PA law. A couple I know who are first cousins (not really but that's another story) had to get married in Maryland because of this law. >Does anyone know the PA or Allegheny County law about marrying kin? How > >close of cousin can one marry?

In a message dated 11/6/01 12:36:39 AM, Roebuck513@aol.com writes: >Does anyone know the PA or Allegheny County law about marrying kin? How > >close of cousin can one marry? Sorry, Don't know anything about the PA laws BUT I had a gUncle who married his second cousin back in 1870 and all they ahd to do was get a dispensation from the Catholic church --- seems no civil authorities were involved. Cora

Does anyone know the PA or Allegheny County law about marrying kin? How close of cousin can one marry? How does the county check when you apply for a license that you aren't relatives? Rosanne

Would anyone have access to FTM #354 and be willing to do a look-up? I've been trying to my grandfather's arrival ship. I understand this CD is a passenger and immigration list from 1538 to 1940. My grandfather's name is Ludwig WAIBEL. He arrived in March of 1890. Any help would be appreciated. Sandy

Nancy, I'm embarrassed! I didn't even think of Norm and he's a frequent contributor. Sorry, Norm! Al At 08:04 PM 11/5/2001, you wrote: >Hi AL, try this website for Riley...............Nancy > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/charr.htm > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> >To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: 05 November 2001 16:43 >Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Riley - Chartiers Cemetery > > > > Listers, > > > > If anyone has the book of tombstone readings for Chartiers Cemetery, I > > would appreciate if you could look up the name Riley. Without getting >into > > a long story, there are supposed to be at least 5 Rileys buried there and > > the cemetery professes not to have information. > > > > TIA, > > > > Al > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > >==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== >SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Article from Ellen Teller Elletelle@aol.com in MISSING LINKS ************************************************************************* I recently visited the Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center and the sixth floor archives for a behind the scenes tour. I was there to see records of glass manufacturers. However, this is a genealogical treasure house. I was amazed to find they have more than 500,000 photographs that document the history of Western Pennsylvania http://www.pghphotos.org/ plus many other records. Reproductions can be ordered. In some cases they have information from nearby states. That elusive photograph of your ancestor might be in the records of the company that your ancestor worked for. Perhaps everyone else knows about this center. It was formerly an ice house and is located in Pittsburgh's Strip District. Just the construction of the building alone was fascinating. The Web site is http://www.pghhistory.org . They are happy to receive all kinds of papers from companies and people who don't know what to do with them but feel that they should be preserved. The Reference Desk (412)454-6364 can also help you find out whether they might have what you want. Ellen Teller Elletelle@aol.com PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is not used for commercial purposes; and (2) this notice appears at the end of the message: Written by [author's name and e-mail address] and published in MISSING LINKS: A Magazine for Genealogists, Vol. 6, No. 43, 4 November 2001. http://www.PetuniaPress.com/ To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE, send e-mail with either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line to: missinglinks-request@petuniapress.com

There are 12 Rileys in Chartiers at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/charr.htm NancyJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 05 November 2001 16:43 Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Riley - Chartiers Cemetery > Listers, > > If anyone has the book of tombstone readings for Chartiers Cemetery, I > would appreciate if you could look up the name Riley. Without getting into > a long story, there are supposed to be at least 5 Rileys buried there and > the cemetery professes not to have information. > > TIA, > > Al > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Hi AL, try this website for Riley...............Nancy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/charr.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Lenkner" <alenkner@stargate.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 05 November 2001 16:43 Subject: [PITTSBURGH] Riley - Chartiers Cemetery > Listers, > > If anyone has the book of tombstone readings for Chartiers Cemetery, I > would appreciate if you could look up the name Riley. Without getting into > a long story, there are supposed to be at least 5 Rileys buried there and > the cemetery professes not to have information. > > TIA, > > Al > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

No apology necessary. I enjoyed reading it. Lori

Listers, If anyone has the book of tombstone readings for Chartiers Cemetery, I would appreciate if you could look up the name Riley. Without getting into a long story, there are supposed to be at least 5 Rileys buried there and the cemetery professes not to have information. TIA, Al

Oops, I omitted final 'l' on that URL. Should be: Story of Taps found at http://www.west-point.org/taps/Taps.html

I thought subscribers might like the story of the Origin of Taps. Carol S. http://www.west-point.org/taps/Taps.htm

If you go to the Historic Oittsburgh web site and insert "Directories" in the search section, you will find: Title: Pittsburgh street directory : as revised since the consolidation of the cities of Pittsburgh and Allegheny, 1916. Imprint: Pittsburgh : Pittsburgh Printing Co., 1916. Physical Extent: 196 p. ; 16 cm. The Table of Contents includes: Street Names that Have Changed Ward Boundaries (p. 173) Description of the Boundary Line of the City of Pittsburgh and the Different Boroughs and Townships Contiguous to Same (p. 193) List of Stations and Branches of the Pittsburgh, Pa., Postoffice (p. 196)

Walt, I'm happy for you that you are a firm believer in God. BUT your statements are all without any foundation of proof as to their origin. Could you please back them up with references to their source? {as a good genealogist, you know that proof --- primary sources --- should always be quoted --- where possible. Cora

For whoever needs a translation site, try this it translates everything from one language to another. Hope this helps, Tonia http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn _____________________________________________________ My Home Page http://www.geocities.com/toniablondie/index.html

Whoa there big fellers, The Supreme Court in its limited wisdom did declare a State sponsored religion. The US government recognizes many of the established religions for burial purposes with appropriate symbolism. If you look those symbols up, the burial symbol of one of the religious isms, (Atheism) is symbol of a nuclear atom ring. The removal or prohibition of all other symbols, artifacts, practices, actions or beliefs makes Atheism the de facto National Religion. Religions are creation belief systems. Most religions aspire to a supreme maker (our Founding Fathers words), God or Creator. All through mans time on earth the Savages inherently knew of a supreme being. It was not until some of us educated ourselves to a pompous degree that we became ego centric. Atheism is a belief system of spontaneous creation, AKA, The Big Bang which states we all magically appeared out of nothingness and proceeded on an incredibly orderly path with irrefutable evidence of intellectual planning and specificity. I yield the floor to the next speaker. Respectfully submitted, a firm believer in God. Walt Jankowski

Sorry . . . I'm not looking for a surname, but the translation of a first name. My gr grandfather was Weigand Siegmann. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darleen Berens" <Darleen_Berens@prodigy.net> To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] German to English > Hi Sandie; If you have Weigand's in Pittsburgh....have you and I been in > contact with one another regarding them? My husband's G-Aunt married a > Weigand in Pittsburgh and I think they resided at some point in the > Sharpsburgh area. The first names of the Weigands I have are: > Conrad b. abt 1850 > Vincent b. Jan 1857 > Albert b. abt 1859 > Ambrose b. abt 1862 > Felix b. abt 1871 > Eleanora b. unknown > If you would like more info on the above Weigands, get in touch with me at > my e-mail address. > Darleen Berens, Huntington Beach, CA > Darleen_Berens@prodigy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Laurie" <sandylaurie@alltel.net> > To: <PA-PITTSBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 5:45 PM > Subject: [PITTSBURGH] German to English > > > > Does anyone know what the first name Weigand translates to in English? > > > > Sandy > > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > > SUE* MCALISTER-Pittsburgh List Mom > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PA-PITTSBURGH Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to:PITTSBURGH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com that contains ONLY the word, 'unsubscribe' in the text area. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

Hey no problem; I didn't know that they existed either, I was just clicking around one day! Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Lenkner To: pigeonrock@earthlink.net Sent: 11/4/01 3:15:15 PM Subject: Re: [PITTSBURGH] Al, your information about Aerail shots ofPittsburgh! Cathy, Thank you! Al Or just go to www.mapquest.com then put the Pittsburgh inot the box push on zooming in then you should get a map with the aerial file folder on top of the map! Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but had a computer crash! Cathy Cathy Raber